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Hello once again Timeless,

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"Are things really so shaky that one needs to be this defensive. I remember last time we spoke it was far worse though. You were beyond defensive and down right vicious. You called me many names and were quite over the top. "

Have I ever been vicious towards you? If not, remember that you directed that reply towards me.

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"Your post to Mayatnik was far more shocking than anything I could ever write. I do not see calm in your life only agitation and defensiveness."

What post are you referring to? Is it in my life you do not see calm, "only agitation and defensiveness?"
Is this once again towards me?

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To give the people on the board some information about what has been going on "behind the scenes" I will now tell them something of what you have said, so that they can make their own opinions of the ones that are not "calm" and has a life full of "agitation and defensiveness( I am sorry to be this harsh, but things have got to end.)

YOU my friend Timeless have accused Mayatnik of many things.(not every quote is COMPLETELY accurate, but I can assure you all they are true and in their right use. Also you can find a FULL Private Message at the bottom for own viewing)
"Fill your emptiness with love for self and you will no longer feel the need to save the world."
"I see an empty man...scared of something he cannot put his finger on."
"Earth knows her future...aliens do not. Talk to mother earth and forget the aliens."(Now where is the CHOICES here my friend Timeless?)
Said to Mayatnik: "only helping people because your wife has died"(this was sent to Mayatnik on the day of his wife's birthday, and the day after her funeral date...)
I can also say things like: "Cult leader!" "Irresponsible! "Leading people astray!".
Look at this and please do tell who you think are the most "irresponsible", "aggitated" and "vicious".(Once again I am sorry to having to resort to this)

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"As for IF the pole shift did happen (which it won't in any of our lifetimes from what I see). I would not be to worried. I have zero fear of death. I have watched people spend their whole lives worrying about nuclear war, Y2K, solar flares. There is always something to fear and distract."

This is not what it's all about. We do not "warn" you about the Pole Shift in order to make you "prepare for death" or "live in fear". It is to inform you of it's reality(should you chose to consider it), and that an "ascension" is "close by. This is not about "death"(as you said there is no need at all to fear this), but it is about life, about the transition from 3rd density to the fourth density.

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Here comes the PM I was referring to above:

Dear MAYATNIK,

What is the meaning of life?

To get lost in detail? To feel fulfilled by helping others get lost in detail? To fill the emptiness within you by serving in this manner? You miss the bigger picture.

Not every voice you hear is wise. Interdimensionality does not mean ultimate wisdom. Earth knows her future...aliens do not. Talk to mother earth and forget the aliens. Fill your emptiness with love for self and you will no longer feel the need to save the world. Your service will change to something that will truly fulfill you. I see an empty man...scared of something he cannot put his finger on. Know yourself and dig a little deeper...and you will find your peace.

Regards,
timeless

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Very best wishes.

With Pleiadian Love and Light,

TruthSeeker

Dear Timeless(and everyone else that might find themselves "hit" by this post,

I feel it is my turn to respond now. I have been passively watching everything that has happened here, but I feel now that I must say a few words.

I am, what you call a "follower" of Mayatnik. I do not consider me as such. You talk of Mayatnik like he was supposed to be "Jesus", gathering "diciples" to follow him. This is not the case. What Mayatnik does is to show those who wish to see.

I am utterly disgusted to read some of the post that have been posted here. Where you indirectly and directly offend and hurt especially Mayatnik(this also affects his "students" as you may refer to it more correctly). Offcourse you should feel free to argue about what is said, but why become hurtful? If what you see here is not what you want to consider, I suggest that you leave this for those that do want to consider the facts that are given.

There have been brought up accusations, accusing Mayatnik as being a "cult leader". This is very far away from the truth. Mayatnik has given people a start to go from, to explore and learn. He has given people a chance to know. He gives people a start, then they are free to go where they want from that. Nobody follows anybody, hence no "cult" can be created.

I could have said so much more, but as I have read, everything has been said.
In the end it is all up to you..

End of "general" post.

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Dear Timeless,

"Interesting, every time I post I always get the followers jumping all over me (some with quite foul language) but the man himself never speaks to me. Hmmm! Why is that? Must others defend him? Let him speak for himself. "

Who is this one man you are speaking of. We are individuals following our own paths(referring to above). There is no "man himself". There is no "cult". There is no "leader". There is no reason to "aim" all your frustration on one man. Aim it at "us"(if this is really what you want to spend your time doing), I beg you.

"What do you know about me?"
I do not know anything about you, and truthfully speaking: I have no interest in knowing anything about you at all.

You might feel that we are "misleading" or "misguiding" the individuals on this forum, but do please think of what you are doing.
You stand so firm on your "belief" that we are part of a "cult", here to spread "misinformation" to the individuals of this forum. That we push them in the wrong direction.

What exactly are you doing, you might ask. You are representing a "blockage" and "keep away-sign". We do not force people into "believing" anything. We show them a room, a room they may choose to explore, or a room they may choose to leave.


"When ever I see people react as radically, extremely and absolutely as Mayatnik's followers do I smell that something is not right. Your ego is too wrapped up in all this."
What would you say to me if I told you you were very wrong in everything you know? Would you have said: "Oh well I probably am.."?
Then this is not something you know, it is something you believe.
As an example: I know my parents are beautiful persons, then one day a man(1) approach me and starts yelling they are evil. Soon many more comes to join, all yelling that my parents are evil. What would you have done if you were me? Would you have walked away, knowing that this man(1) had given the crowd this belief, or would you stay and try to explain. If you do choose to stay and explain, but you are not getting through to the man(1) that "started this belief", what would you then do? You could once more walk away and say: Their loss.
But you might also stay in a last desperate attempt to shed some light of truth through to the crowd and the man(1). In the end you might turn desperate and begin loosing your patience and an anger towards this man(1) will start to grow. Things will be said that might not gain the cause. If you are a man of will and sense of "right", you will not leave due to this. You will stay there and argue untill your last hour.
This is what I intend to do, to give the "crowd" a chance to know..

Be caring and mature, leave people to make up their own opinions. Do not yell out "this is evil" like the man(1), if you feel that this indeed is wrong anyway, walk away...

The very best to all of you.

With Pleiadian Love and Light,

TruthSeeker

Thank you for the article Mick..

With Pleiadian Love and Light,

TruthSeeker

Dear corvette,

Not everyone expeiences the same "exit-sensations" whn they exit the physical. So this is not a necessity to having an OBE(referring to the sounds).
When it comes to movement:
At this particular projection I moved because I KNEW I was outside my body(I floated upwards, saw my etheric body). So what I did was to move like I would in the physical, I moved by thought somehow. I floated where I wanted to float, I do not know exactly how I did it, but it felt natural.
In other cases when you feel exit-sensations(vibrations, floating limbs etc.) You simply try moving. You might find yourself out of body(the feeling of not moving a muscle to move will accompany it), or you might still be in the physical. If you are infact in the physical, simply lay down and try again.
I advise you to do a realitycheck either way, as you might be in another vehicle(etheric vehicle) without feeling any "astral feelings". Do a simple check by looking at a text or watching your hands(if the text changes, or your hands looks strange or start melting you are in the astral place called "The RealTime Zone", "RTZ".

Good luck,

TruthSeeker

The "Universal Mind", or "Universal Consciousness"

Regards,

TruthSeeker

Hello everone,

I just got the full version of Brainwave Generator 3.1.9.
What I would like to know is: Could those of you who have had ANY success with a preset give us on the board a recommandation or upload it to the File Library, with the effect it had?
It would be highly appreciated!

Thank you,

TruthSeeker

Thank you for sharing your experience Greytraveller! Highly appretiated!

Regards,

TruthSeeker

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Oh no! What does this mean? I get no advise at all? Oh bugger...

Dear no_leaf_clover,

This is exactly the kind of response I was looking for. Thank you for your thoughts, as it is very important to reveal tre truth relating to this matter.
By this statement: "The greatest thing the devil ever did was to convince humankind that he did not exist", I wanted thoughts to start rolling in. I wanted people to make an effort trying to "prove me wrong". Exellent!

I am sure you noticed the quotationmarks, meaning I was not the one who said it, and this sentence should not be connected to me. I stated this quote to provoke you and to counteranswer by giving a more "truthful" truth.

I, myself do not believe in "the devil"(by traditional terms), nor do I believe in hell. There are higher planes of existence, and there are lower planes existence. If we follow strict christianity we might call the higher planes "heaven", and the lower planes "hell".

Do not follow a religion blindly because you are told to. You have free will, use it and cunclude yourself what is real and what is not. Traditional christianity is perhaps responsible for planting the "rumor" of "Satan"(That is if it really is just a rumor) And sure other religins have done other things they can not be proud of. Find your own path, seek the truth.

God(The creator, Universal consciousness etc.) created all we have around us, and has the power to destroy it all within a fraction of a fractioned second. Why doesn't "he" destroy everything that is "evil", if "he" has the power? He created it for us to learn and develop in the best way possible: By first-hand experiencing "EVERYTHING".

There might however be a devil, a dark lord. A consciousness(single individual or group-consciousness) that controlls "his" servants. But just as everything else he must have been created by God aswell(not a must, but most likely), hence he was created to help us learn and develop.

When it comes to "his" plan(that is IF he exists at all), I do not know. I have not the interest to know what the devil plans. If I understand what God's plan is, I will also understand the devil's big plan(if "he" really has one that is).

Spread love around you, love everything unconditionally. Love the angels, love the demons, love God, love "the dark lord". They are all here for us to learn and develop. We are Gods sons and daughters, and we should not express dislike or hatred towards his exellent "school" or any of its teachers or students.


Sincerely,

TruthSeeker

"The greatest thing the devil ever did was to convince humankind that he did not exist"

Regards,

TruthSeeker

Dear everyone,

Just a small note: I have been studying martial arts since early childhood. This does however not make me a violent person. This is a fine line we practicioners of martial arts are walking, but with the right values and mind-set it is not a hard thing to do. I myself teach martial arts(a variable of Jeet Kune Do, including pressurepoint control, Chi, a hard mental dicipline and the spirit is of the essence), so I know how certain people get violent or aggressive when taught martial arts. This is not for anyone, and those who are not ready for it will soon begin a journey, the journey Mustardseed's friends have begun. They will show tendencies of violence and lack the self-control needed to be a practicioner of martial arts, this especially counts when reaching a higher level. I doubt Mustardseed's friends have been "exposed" to negs that make them of this attitude(the reason is that the world is filled with persons just like them). However I can not say for sure out of such little information and without having seen them myself.

Mustardseed said:  "I did some Martial arts when I was younger but stopped as I felt it was changing me!!!"
- This is absolutely right. Martial arts does change a person. To a strong person who has the right values and mind-set(having reached beyond the lust to harm other beings), will change to the better both spritually, mentally and physically(depending on the art being studied offcourse). You seem like a person that matches the "criterias", and I suggest that if you still have the will: Re-start and find a style/form that suits you, as this will change your life forever. HOWEVER resolve your fears and feelings you do not wish to have.
In time with a good teacher, you will lose the fears of hurting people, as you will loose the aggressive mind-set and be more compassionate towards all living beings.

One thing you can think of is why do you want to be angry at an attacker anyway? He is doing something to help you and him, making lessons for both of you. After this incarnation your attacker will be faced with his stupidity(as we are all beings of light, and we all will be faced with our stupidity and learn from it to become better beings.) Meet your attacker with love and understanding, teach him a lesson if needed, but be loving and understanding.

With love,

TruthSeeker

LA FORET MAUVE it is for exactly that reason it is here[]

I wish all of you the very best,

TruthSeeker

Dear Nay.

Those are exellent paintings!
What does the hands symbolize?
And just one last thing, you are lucky. Lucky to have that family.

Sincerely,
TruthSeeker

I, personally do not believe in a "heaven", nor do I believe in a "hell". I believe in higher, and lower planes of exsistence.  When you die your "self", or soul, is transported into new vehicles. What you believe to be heaven is of the essence. If you believe to be on the "eternal huntingfields", that is where you will end up. When you have rid yourself of this belief, by slowely being show the real truth, you will eventually ascend into the "real heavens", which is the highest plane of exeistence.
This is however only MY BELIEF, AT THIS TIME.

Regards,

TruthSeeker

I think this question needs the answer of a really experienced traveller, like Frank or Mayatnik(no offence to any other I can not think of right now).
However this is the best answer I can give(only had two conscious projections):
You do not really project away from your body. In reality there is no time or space, everything lies on top of each other, yet still miles away from each other. You can travel "inwards" and find yourself at the most beautiful places, the same places you can find if you look "outside". Everything is everywhere and the other way around.
The whole idea of thinking of something else than your body is because you need to be seperate from it. You need to be in another vehicle than the body you refuse to focus on at that time, the physical. This way you shift your focus onto another vehicle of your desire(etheric, mental etc.)

I do not know if my thoughts explain anything as I just returned from a meditation-session, but it should at least have some logic in place..somewhere..[|)]

Regards,

TruthSeeker

You can infact eat and drink. The tastes will be the same as in the physical, but you will not get a feeling of a full stomach, nor will the water take away your thirst. When it comes to skateboarding that is an affermative. You can skateboard, swim, jump, surf, whatever your wish may be. It is all about what you want, if you want physical rules to apply, you can get this wish manifested and walk about just as you are now, but within an instant you can also be weightless.

Good luck on your future projections,

TruthSeeker

This sounds like somthing I would love to be a part of! Thank you for introducing this to me. But I do not think it is time for me to join a House yet. Allthough I have been training martial arts my whole life(with and without weaponry), I have only been able to consciously project(into the astral) twice. I think I need more practice at this before I take the step to join.
Thank you very much Mystery Ninja!

Sincerely,

TruthSeeker

Things that have happened in my life, as well as my theories and beliefs(possibly created as a cause of my experiences) has led me into doing research about Astral Projection/OBE. Like cainam_nazier so exellently put it: "It is the next logical step in my journey."

Minime,

To start of I just want you to know that I am truely sorry about this issue. We that post here at this forum, are in no way responisble for your daughter's beliefs. If it makes things easier, look at this that we believe so firmly in as a religion. Christianity is a religion with many exellent ideas and many exellent persons have supported and built up this religion. However there are persons(in this illustrated case, priests) who follow a path that was not originally made. This is the path of misguidance and as you so exellently put it: "trying to get some kind of "rush" from being "the almighty" person".
Such a person is what your daughter may have come in contact with. Either that, or the fact that she may have interpreted it in her own way. We can not be responsible for what a thirteen years old girl thinks. Most uf us posting here at this forum are smart people who wishes to talk about what we experience, when the society we live in has chosen to "banish" it from general knowledge and "truth".

I believe I speak for most of us when I say we would never have reccomended your daughter to only rely on the theory of "negs" or energy manipulation. When serious physical injuries or problems arise, it must allways be dealt with by a professional doctor, and by him healed by approved and PROVED methods of healing. Tell this to your daugther, as I believe she will understand. I suspect that she is a very intelligent young woman, having found her way into this forum.

I must beg you not to judge us from what these "priests" have or have not told your daugther. You can not say what we believe is not true only because it has never happened to you. To those that things of "unnatural" and "supernatural" nature has happened to there is no doubt of its reality. You have every right being a "disbeliever", but do not tell us we are wrong. Keep your insulting thoughts to yourself, just as we do.
And as in defence to the very exellent Robert Bruce: I have read his books and they are very exellent IF read with a careful mind, as everything must be interpreted carefully. I say like the exellent Sir Francis Bacon: "Read not to contradict and confute, no to believe and take for granted, but to weigh and consider."
When you tell us to be responsible, I will go as far as to tell you the same. It's your daughter and you should be the able to reach her if you put enough effort in it. For it is worth it!

Very best wishes to you both, and I hope your daughter will heal allright to grow up and see "the bigger picture".

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Edited at 19:36 01+GMT

Adrians latest reply that came out a few minutes before I was done editing first version, was very exellent and gave a good reply. So feel free to ignore my perhaps too harsh reply.

Sincerely,

TruthSeeker

What are these "Warrior Houses"? What is a "Warrior"(I assume he battles neg's?).
Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,
TruthSeeker

Hi Beavis,

Mockiboo is a very expereienced projector and I believe he very well knows about all hte names we have inprinted upon the astral world. Both of you are right, as the "RTZ" is a part of the astral dimension, but running on a lower frequency than the "full-blown" astral dimension.

Have a nice day,
TruthSeeker

Congratulations! []

Regards,
TruthSeeker

Thanks for that most valuable information Hypnotist!
I have a question though: Could you try to explain how I could reach theta myself, and then create my own key word? Or perhaps explain how a second person could help creating the key word? I would be most grateful!

Regards,
TruthSeeker

Congratulations!
Sounds fun! Can't wait to get my second OBE! [|)]

Have a nice day,
TruthSeeker

Congratulations!
Sounds fun! Can't wait to get my second OBE! [|)]