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Hi old friends and hopefully new as well


I have become very interested in this subject a of late. During my obes i have at times seen greys and communicated with them as well. I also think i destroyed 1 . I observed the nordic type and often the reptile entities. I never knew what it was but now 15 years later the experience is called.... abduction.

As some oldtimers remember, Frank and I had a disagreement and BR also was at odds w Frank. Mainly about the issue of weather astral realms were anomolous or subjective or not. RB was arrogantly marginalised as a mystic, and left the coperation with AP over this issue among others

My main quest always to master concious exits, to learn to stop leaving my body. It worked.

After learning to shoot energy balls all my involuntary obes stopped. Because of that I theorize that astral methods as we know them, exits, focus areas and energy work, are powerfull weapons, as most abductions or many , happen in the lucid state

I would like to propose a thread on dealing with , and idintifying astral wildlife, types tha could thought alien or otherworldly. I have met and dealt with odels of shapeshifters and met being on numerous occations who appear constant in apperance as in racial similar.

I have a possible contact to exopolitics, and the disclosure project, and they seem to be looking for answers.

Any takers

Regards Mustardseed

Bruce Moen is coming to Copenhagen nxt months.

If any AP members want to meet I might be able to get some discount, at least I cld try.  any takers

First of All i would write Robert Bruce at Astraldynamics.com .It coupe be a semi. Active or wakening Kundalini and is not to be taken lightly if so.  I would day stay away from anything astral for a while always a good idea once in a while. Had it myself probably not so strong

Yes....keep on reading and consider these things my Young swedish friend .Many have come before YOU with the fire of wanting to lead these lost souls on the right path, only to later be thankful. You see the folks at this forum are very informed , so if you had hoped for a free ride i am sorry to disapoint you. I invite you to stay and chat and teach us some more. Maybe you can start by finding me some proof from the net or if you yourself have some, that the Jews even existed as a nation under David and Solomon, to make it fair and fun lets avoid speculation and using the Bible as a source . Please if you Can guide me i would love to know

Regards Mustardseed

CT .......you had a brilliant thought (notice i Said HAD A THOUGHT) for such wisdom commeth down from above  very good point I am sure, and I know his style  ofcause hé would

Yes they are beautiful here is one more amazing Islamic traditions and dances enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxeMyQNr8ho

This has been brought up with fervor my certain groups of people over the ages, especially monks, and other clergy, as well as modern day gay movements of various kinds. I suppose it is a convinient truth for some, to paraphrase the great wooden head.

In order to make a personal decision about this, I think you have to take your own circumstance into account.

If you believe that Jesus was the son of God, he is in a manner of speaking all the good you see in the world around you. If you see love between 2 humans, no matter how it is expressed, you see God, for the Bible says God is Love.

If you do not believe in the divinity and I am not saying one thing is better than the other, but if you don't then it is the same scenario, he will be whatever you say he is, and you will BELIEVE that.
The FACT of the matter is that... NOONE knows, and if we cannot as humanity even decide or be agreed that He was even real, ....then it seems to me , that discussing if he was Gay, it is rather like masturbating a mosquito,  a lot of work, I am doubtful that the result will lead to anything worth the effort.

For the record. My opinion is that if he was God, or Gods son whatever he was, it would be logical that he was bi, seems selfish and unfair  that only half the world could make out with Christ. I vote for equality, incidentally it also says "There is no male or female in Christ", indicating that the sexes and the consequent division and tension between them is a thing of F1 , the Bible calls it worldly affairs or the things of this world.

Just a thought

Regards Mustardseed

  Well it may sound crazy to most of you but I have finally succeded in making my OBEs stop. I had years of concious exits as well as Lucid dreams and other experiences and after maintaining a strict regimen og excercises it is over.  at least it seems to be.

After years of OBEs etc I decided that living in THIS world was more important than the other one, and the lessons learned here were best learned without the distraction of OBEs etc. I decided to shut them out...the best sign of being in control, I assumed. So far so good.

As a big part of my plan was a ban on my visiting this site, its all in the ""mind" right, so maybe now I will start again making them happen. That was part of the original scheme but it was only to happen if they truly stopped. I have not had any for a LONG time, so maybe the time is right to reverse the process. Anyone interested in how i8t is done I shall be glad to share...

Regards Mustardseed

PS Hi everybody how are things going

So  ...... what is the thing with the oil

Its really something

Something ....what

It is very clever....the way they have worked it out

worked it out....worked out what

its a big game to them

Could you be a bit more clear

there are sooo many evels in this operation...some know some don't ssome try some don't and the real issues are coated in oil. The truth is covered in lies just like the oil itself. It is a amazing situation.....darkness has perfected the method it uses to drown the world in lies

That sounds interesting could you specify

you know how I use every opportunity every situation to perfect my plan, to draw men to me. I use mistakes faults problems and even disasters to teach and eventually heal manking. That is who and what I am what I do....I create order out of chaos. The other side knows this and tries to use chaos to create more chaos. Since they cannot really create they try to hinder my creative plan....thats all they can do. Delay hinder confuse...they can cause the nervous system to collapse and thereby initiate breakdowns in people and consequently equipment.

Is that what is amazing


No not at all...thats what has alkways been....what is amazing is the choices people are making....did you think about that conversation

Not really I did not understand it

Ha it was a puzzle...know you like those....solve it

A puzzle....

Yes a puzzle

Ok I will takie a look

I have to go now  I will talk to you later

ok see you then

Hi all I just went looking for something in the old thread, that I thought would be good to re iterate, to save time and frustration. It is regard to how I channel. Here it is...

From the OLD Channeling God thread:

In the channeling I merely listen to a voice and write down what I hear in audio. Any spelling mistakes grammar problems etc is due to my inferiour spelling abilities and the fact I am not a native english speaker. This is one point in Channeling that has suprised me often. It seems that "God" (lets assume it is God[]) partly uses my intellect and mind for the formation or creation of the sentences. It seems to me that the further away from my personal situation the questions are, the easier it is to recieve, but often I try to get something about a personal situation and the "channel" seems obstructed or somewhat coloured by my minds knowledge of the situation. This is also the case if I ask something that is Wayyyyy above my intellect's ability , it sort of freaks my mind out (trying to explain here[]) and I lose my balance in a way. A bit like Peter walking on the water and looking down and starting to sink. I get in the frame of mind that this is just impossible and as in the astral I create my own impossibilities. It seems to be a matter of faith. Just a few observations.

End


So as for asking God to answer a question I have not even heard....This just seems to get in my way. I get all concerned about weather my channel is strong enough or weather it is a trap or whatever .....all my own fears and lack of faith makes me loose the delicate balance I am in when I sit typing and I "sink" so to speak. I get sort of down as well and loose the interest in Channeling for a whille ...I almost get upset with God and as a result I DOUBT my own link and ....sink

JUst a thought

Regards MS
 

yes definately....while getting it I was having a sensation on a single guy stanting on a very moving surface and the other in a very firm invironment ....semed like atelepone conversation.....I have NO clue...I have to go to work so anyone who can figure this out be my guest

I tried to type some things that are not allowed like cra. shi. fuc. so I changed it to xxxx to make it easy to understand....i HAVE NO IDEA what thet was all about but seemed like a conversation between a superiour and a inferiour.....pretty disturbed....it makes NO SENSE to me either but I will ask when I get time....It seems to me "God" is very agitated if one can use that word about that oilslip

I have been doing this thread for a long time. For the first time ever I have beencalled to the computer by God. So here I am. I have had to take a break from work

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Hello

Its amazing Mustardseed

what is amazing

Well I knew they were trying but still


What are you talking about

Here is a part of their conversation.

You can't be serious....we are almost there....

I am serious.....do it

But its gonna be the worst slip, I can't move the fu..... cat

You have to....failing is not an option and we need a Jack ...don't give me SHxxx it can be done. Have you any idea what this is costing us

No Sir but...

Don't give me any of that CR.. get it done, I dont give a F... do it

Use the F...ing pack or we are done...YOU are done...I will see to it you will never work a  well again ever....never and I dont give a S..t for a few birds ...do you get that ....just get it done

yes sir

call me when its over and get the .....


what was that


Was what


What I just wrote


It was a conversation

Really.....between whom

Gotta go


Hey ...you can't just leave me here....whats going on


Hey why am I not at work...


Hello......


Helloooo

what the heck was that all about


PS I got the bluee and black mixed up again and modified.....as far as the conversation.....I have no idea going back to work.....that was wierd, I have it right but still the last bit is in all blue sorry

whooooo there y'all. Mocking is a part of the whole concept. I really don't mind and it brings the best out in "God" in my experience. Lets ask about this

Hey up there

....

Hello


oh sorry I was watching the oil pouring out destroying the ocean and it was making me contemplate....well yes what did you want


well I was wondering ...I only have a minute off my break....what about the mocking

Its ok

ok?

Yea people who have strong reactions to the thread and you and I talking are very concerned about the truth...as they see it....and so because they do not understand they....mock....no harm do just leave it be, I got your back

Ok .....well thats good to know.....so you do not mind


no way its fine, he just feels a concern for the truth thats a good thing....listen I have to run....its so onteresting what they are trying to do with theoil without telling the world I have to take a closer look amazing


Ok can we talk about that


\sure ...later bye

bye

Ha  I had a crush on Nay thet goes way back (you would too if you knew what a sweetheart she is), nothing secret about that, ........ehmmm wonder if I should tell my wife or her husband. nah.....

That makes more sense. I've had many, many lucid dreams, but that experience was totally diffrent.
So are you saying the Mental plane is a collective consciousness area?

There are 2 main schools of thought, one is Franks scientifical approach of Phazing, the other is the Mystic such as Robert Bruce, this later model operates with seperate locations. What the actual fact is, ...well that is anyones guess

Hi all Just to let you know that I modified the message below, by changing a line to black from blue. I have a crazy screen that I cant see what I type in the window if the message gets longer than the box. Do others have that problem. Well I am a lousy typist so sometimes make mistakes with the blue and the black

Regards MS

CHANNELING GOD

Well here we go...

helloooo

Helloooo


Ha...I knew you would be there

Ha...I always am,.....you command me

I do

yup

how .....well another time. Anyway I have a few things I would like to ask about

great

Well there was that thing about Nay...seemed you had something more to say

sometimes a simple I love you is enough

well I was wondering if you would anyway. I think she has been waiting

I know she has

well then then ....how about you tell her something

I just did

What

look over it again

You said that telling her that you loved her was enough....well just a minute ...just have to read it

you said Sometimes sa simple I love you is enough
......this is tricky are you saying that thats what you want to tell her or that you have nothing to tell her cause you told her I love you?

Yousaid I seemed to have more to say ...and I told you what I had to tell her

Ok....can you expand on that.

Why

well there is not much Channeling in that....I think everyone expects a bit more

Oh let me see....so now you get to decide how much I should say, you already decide what we talk about, at least you think you do, and how long before you want to decide what to say[

Well it was not like that....it was more because I have had all these feelings churning around in my head about her.


Yea its pretty amazing isn't it


Well its not really...Its a bit well sort of well its not so comfortable

It is called to be touched with the feeling of their infermity  

Well I had such a feeling that Nay was going through somethiing and maybe you would say something to help her

Thats why I chose to say what I did....

I don't understand that

Well if a Channeler gets too involved, it changes the direction and run of the stream, you hinder the flow so to speak and muddy up the stream

Oh....I see

But don't worry...little is much if I am in it

I don't have to say anything actually......in this case Nay has an opportunity to love and loving is humbeling and very very powerful, she always knew that...but sometimes you all  need to be reminded

Ok....well I have to go to work now....Thanks

Ha you are su funny David....you are all miffed at that....so teenage....thats a hoot

Well  ....yea I guess I was expecting more....but its ok... I know you always surprise me so I don't complain

I will let that stand......we can talk about you later...anyway we still have the oil to chat about...take some time soon ok

Oh Goody I was wondering about that....so I guess I will see you later..I am working late so maybe in a few days

Not a problem I will be waiting here...and there ....and everywhere, by the way I saved your life today

WHAT.....

Yea...I will tell you next time

SAVED MY LIFE...are you kiddin

No I am not....we will talk about it later...and yes I know that you wants to talk about it now...but you will be late to work...my schedule and your bosss schedule...you have people to see and things to do C U later Bye

............well bye then

Since you are asking for opinions here is mine. The difference is in a way that in an LD you travel inward into a place that has the potential to become an astral area, but is entirely made up by your own subconsious activity. In an AP you go to places made up by other people entities groups of people or whatever. The general feel of the place is similar and perhaps stronger in a LD. Mostly these experiences are combined with false awakenings as well. I have had this "problem" for many years but have come to believe that an LD is actually more useful for personal growth and a dandy experience that is a stepping stone for further exploration.

You should try to learn to transit from the selfcreated LD area to the wider AP areas. People use a variety of ways to do this. Some fall backwards and wake up beside their body, that does not work for me I just keep falling.

What I do is mentally go back to sleep and visualise a second room, garden or area whereever you are, and then as I awake I find myself in the wider Astral dimension. So it sounds crazy and it is hard to do. The sheer exhilaration of having a LD makes it hard.

If you want to try then just assume  position you normally do in trying to project and try to project Phase or whatever you chose to call it, and you might find that the LD acts a s a spring board above a pool to propell you further and faster than you expect.

Just my 2 cents

Good luck
Regards Mustardseed

Hello...
Anyone there?

Hmmm


It that you...

Who else could it be....who else writes in BLUE

Ha yes well I was just wondering...well could we talk again

You never stopped...or did you

What do you mean

well dont forget I am everywhere, i KNOW you better than yourself

Right....ehh but I havn't actually channelled for a while

wrong

what do you mean..I havn't been on the AP for ages

and....

well I have not done any channeling then

ahh....not on AP but you7 Channel everytime you are a ....channel

yea...ok well I have lots of things to ask you can we talk

sure buddy no problem

I have several questions and I would like to talk to you about them

great..I am always so happy when anyone wants to talk to me

good ...so how do I begin

Just let it hang out...talk to me Mustardseed

Well ok then...First Nay....

Ahhh Nay...yes I do

What

I love her


yes that was what she was asking me...I think it was a rhetorical question

yes but still there is always the question, and the answer is I do

I am glad but I actually knew that

However..

However what

I do have a few things to tell her...do you think she will listen

Hey listen thei is NAY we are talking about

ok so then lets talk

My daughter just sertved up dinner I will get back to you...is that ok

always at your service Mustardseed...any time you please

Ok then I will just get some dinner and then we will talk

Great I am actually busy as well

with what...

looking into that oilwell ....very timely actually...took a bit of arranging but listen lets talk later

ok soon...bye

Thanks Stillwater
I was wondering who HIM is....have an idea but just wanted to make(r) sure I am starting a new thread Channeling God...again lets see what He has to say. 

Its been a while

Regards Mustardseed

Just finished watching the series final of LOST. There seem to be a lot of parralels to the afterlife in it. In a way what they all went through on the island seem to be stuf they eventually had to work out in another intermediary place . Some call it purgetory but to me it is more like an Astral location somehow. I wonder if the places we visit are places such as these (this would be the flash sidewards scenes not the island.) We could be visiting "worlds" which are really places where different spirits or souls, are working through their emotional baggage and their fear or beliefs. I see the work that I have done in the astral much like what Desmond and eventually the others are doing. They have no fear they now know they are spirits and help others to pass on.

So in a way I think the AP is a place where you learn stuf, that you later will be able to put to good use. In the light of that I was wondering if I should put my picture on my profile. You can see a lot from a persons face and it would help I think to keep the conversation more respectfull. You then sit across from a real person not some caracteer in a fantasy world.

What do you think?
In other forums they use pictures why not us...opinions anyone

Yes I agree with you, we do have to label them something for the sake of understanding that the area is special, and inhabited or whatever by spirits of a certain type. My problem is more with the issue that only spirits who on earth were of certain religions are said to inhabit these areas.

My issue or argument is that we all have belief systems. That is a pretty interesting allegation. I believe  that anyone who is "locked in" to a certain belief can be found there, and not only those who have a mainstream religious conviction. Anyone who has ANY belief need to be carefull and attentive. For private reasons I have a hard time using the term evolution  but as we "evolve" in our understanding of said mysteries, we seem to all accept that many of the notions and beliefs we once held dear , simple as they were, do not hold water in the light of our OWN exploration of other realities and explanations. Many prompted by contact, and I might add respectful contact, with others who differ.

The religious forum tend to be once in a while become the "gladiator ring" between people of conflicting beliefsystems. That in itself is in my opinion interesting and of great importance for the AP community. Instead of attacking others for their belief it would be worthwhile examining ones own beliefs. The problem is that belief is inherently a religious term, so it complicates the communication tremendously. In order to circumvent these heated discussions it seems in order that we all admit that most AP experiences and whatever we all stumble on is very subjective and therefore can be categorised "belief" noone has proof, no scientific argument can be made, and thus we all should show openness to the ideas of others. There is nothing wrong with not believing what people tell you, but to label them as future inhabitants of the BST seems arrogant at best.

I have several religious beliefs that I adhere to, they are mine I do not expect anyone to embrace them as I have, as they are based on my experiences, others have similar experiences and should be respected. That was my only point.

Ps nice to chat with you again

Stokie I have been thinking some of the same things and my beliefs have changed as well, however I do not atribute that change to the AP, as much as to the ever present spirit or force if you will, that pervades every space that opens up to it. Hmm that was along sentence. I will try again.

I think there is truth in the saying that "who seeks the truth will find it". To me that is not finding an opinion and stopping the search. I think it is supposed to mean "eventually will find it". I believe we will one day know as we are known. There is a force in the universe that works just like the atmosphere that surrounds us. As it goes "Nature abhors a vacuum" every place that is truly open every hand that knocks will find a door opens to them . Low pressures high pressures etc. Truth as I see it is only possible if we accept the greater wisdom of, "the more I know the more I know that I don't know"

I think we all get glimpses as in a window pane a reflection, but I believe (yes believe) that we will all get surprised when we open the packet (Die).

I think we see some things but our experiences are layered so to speak. In the old days they believed the earth was flat because by observation it was. There was a time they believed the atom was the smallest building block in the universe as well. We believed in straight lines of light and a curved line was not even in our vocablery. A blach hole was a pinple on your back  remember. So many things we as humans thought we knew and now we know better but still we realise we know even less.

In the astral I think it is the same...we have no idea but only catch a few glimpses

I do not agree that if we get upset we are not secure in our beliefs. I am not secure in anything actually, not anymore. Even the things I experience. How can I be. I tend to get upset if someone is trying to sell a beliefsystem as fact. or deny others the right to a beliefsystem because they have "the truth" and claims  faith in fx God or say Jesus is stupid, in other words when religious and intellectual fredom of thoughts and beliefs are infringed upon.I have an issue with people who believe that violence is acceptable, in the fight for truth. This makes me upset and not insecure in my beliefs.

Everyone of us have beliefs we DO NOT KNOW.

Thats why I think that labelling the belief terretories is a mistake, If there is such a place there might be plenty astral pulsers and wiccans as well there might be all sorts of folks who have stopped asking questions and have put it all in a box

What do you think

PS I am thinking about resurrecting my old thread. Most of it got erased. In any case I will ask him