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here is a very nice site about chakras.

http://www.rickrichards.com/chakras/Chakras1a.html

happy reading.

jonas

afstroker. can you give some more examples of how to click the amygdala. i couldn´t find many of them on the site. maby there are me just couldn´t find it. perhaps they just want to sell the book.

do you yourself have the book?
whats your experience with this?

thank you!

jonas

i havent tried this myself but it sounds serious to me.

http://www.psycom.com/metaphysics/intro.html

happy gazing!

Jonas K strand

maby they are places where the energetic world connects with the material world. our oportunity to get in contact with other worlds. they fill the whole body. we maby once made contact with this world through the chakras and made this world clearer and clearer and forgot all about chakras.

anything can be a sin. its depending on how you feel and what you generate when you are doing it.
for example, if i drink to much alcohol i would feel very bad. thats me. i feel bad from it and that is negative. its a sin for me. if you on the other hand drink to much and feels just fine, know what youre doing and why. if you dont hurt yourself or anyone else its not a sin.

from this point of wiev sin and karma is more similar

to me it seems like the church is producing sins their members by scaring them. -YOU MAY NOT SMOKE! -ohh? why not? i feel great when i smoke...
this guy will probably feel bad every time he smokes if he cant se what the church is trying to do with him.

best

jonas

i have had the same sensation for some weeks. it doesnt scare me cos i could clearly feel that it developed from my browchakra. first the sensation went from my forehead around my head like a circle and sometimes the whole of my head is activated. its not very strong on me, its pressure (not much of moving (but some)) allover my head.
like wearing a hat yes.

i asked similar questions when i was afraid of the sensations
in my browchakra. peaople on this forum told me not to give it to much attention and not to fear it but keep doing energywork.
that worked fine for me. i have no experience with kundaliniyoga though, maby thats a different thing.

i recently read on a chakrasite that you should start with the heartchakra and then let it go up. and that the lower ones allready was fed by eating and sexdrive. i really have no idea but you can read it yourself if your interested.

http://www.rickrichards.com/chakras/Chakras1a.html

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jonas

thank you! this is my first real introduction to the chakrathing. its very intreseting and easy to read.

thank you

jonas

my third eye is activated whenever i feel like, but how to open it..?
i really dont know. seems like its easier said than done.

ive heard that it can help to cross the eyes a bit when trying to 'see'. it will help you not to focus on anything. and ofcaurse keep attention not only on what your eyes see but also your own state of mind. i have also heard that one should keep a quiet mind, because our inner dialouge about this world is what makes us see it as we are used to. quiet it down through consentration.
your a scout so, be ready!

jonas

im sure it says that it CAN hurt badly and not that it will hurt.
the pain is not the goal. i went trhrough it without much of footpain.

make sure that you do dont go to fast over the feet. i think it says that you should let the hands and feet take its time.

pain is not the goal. awarenes is what to strive for. nothing is wrong with you from my point of view.

take care

jonas

the N.E.W. system is good for me and sounds like what youre serching for, its `just` for energyraising and not for the fightingstuff.

if this is the right path i dont know. its not quite a path at all - heres a link -

http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/new/new.htm

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jonas

one relly good thing is to raise feet and legs while sitting by the computer. i have done this for some weeks and my body start doing it without me noticing sometimes. i just let my feet lay wide open on the floor, in the beginning i stimulated some, but now, it just comes, as for many. if i have some time by the computer before i go to sleep my energyraising seems to become stronger too. so the computer is not only for the intellect.

i train breathfocus meditation 20 to 30 minutes a day to quiet my mind and NEW when i feel like and when i go to bed. the rest is just like waves. sometimes im so interested and train alot an sometimes very little. its good to have some base to fall on when the inspiration is away.

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jonas

rodentmouse

does it really? contradict enligtenment?

it doesnt seem like that to me. ofcaurse, if one feel like excrement waking up being someone else every morning, thats not good but the constant change is just part of the truth for me. i imagine enlighetenment as the understanding of this changes and that they will never stop, how they work and how they effect each other.

isnt this the charm with all this. we never know were we end up and what is going to happend next in our lives? if we live more "normal", this changes will still take place but we maby focus on things that doesnt seem to change. how we look, for example- when we understand that our apperance actually do change it comes as a shock. maby enlightenment is to never aloud oneself to get shocked by what we allready knew.

i look upon my newfound pendulum (thanks to mayatnik and the others in the pendulumthread) as a way to be in a constant changing. to use pendulum was one week ago very far from what i thaught about myself. it imediately made me see some things about myself very clearly, some of my fear and the fact that i want to control everything for example.

ha en god dag alla

pretty similar languages after all... isnt it?

jonas

it was the other way round to me. i read the books before the experiences. i was new and i couldnt stop reading those books. over and over.

now more and more of the techniques is getting true to me. mostly basic stuff about quieting the mind and his tips for developing dreaming. not the "holy herb"-thing and i havent met any spirits yet. maby im just not there, but no, im not expecting it to be true. i just belive it is. on a so naive level. i dont care to much now though.

jonas

have you done much of breathfocus meditation? its very nice and it sometimes leave me with a quiet mind. and that quiet mind is not runing for daydreams just like that. it makes me inspiered to keep on being aware until im back on the old track.

i have an idea about this daydreamingthing. instead of going to daydreams we can bring them to here and to now. it sounds very good to me but i dont know if it is possible. at least it sounds logic.
i have never been aware in a daydream. awareness just smash them up.

im sorry, this is way from what this thread is about.

i think you will have to fight or surrender. im sure something will have to die in us and a slow death of the ego is painful for the ego, after all we are our egos in many ways. when we are reborn we cant get that old one back and dont you agree, its seems a difficult task getting back to where you were before? i think. and to me its not worth it. though its tough sometimes.

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jonas

hello rodentmouse.

i pretty much share some of the feelings you talk about. its sometimes as if i have given old things up and i have no idea if this path is leading to more understanding or if its just "in mind". so many different things is true to people, thats confusing to me.

this awarething makes me feel good but im sure i dont use it as i should. ... "my mind was wandering, ohh, i can see that clearly, i was thinking of that russian pornostar again. oh, im so good at this awarenesthing. i want to ride it again!" so... is this leading anywhere? anyone know? to me it is a repeted return to the state of now. not more or less.

talking to strangers. i sometimes try to look upon myself as a sacrifice. not a poor one but a happy satisfied. and all that goes wrong in the conversation or what its about is just another wound that is just a litle song to my god. it relly helps me in many situations to keep this attitude up. sometimes this works as a trigger for me being a very happy sacrifice doing things i never thaught i would do.  

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jonas

yes. youre right. the "full time raising" was more of a catchy title unfortunately. im not really towards it as it is now, but sometimes when i really want to raise energy (since im a periodkindaperson im doing things more frequently sometimes...) and if at the same time im for example supposed to ride a bike, what is the next bodypart to go for?

this talking about not exercising to much and in the next sentence talk about slow and constant progress makes me dizzy.  

my opinion is that canstant progress comes before holding in. i mean that i ofcaurse should take the chance to make canstant progress when im eager to do it, its good to have the possability to do that even when youre walking with your hands full of plasticbags in the rain or something. to me its a good thing to know about.

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jonas

it seems like a very nice book. i fully understand if people disappear from reading such books. i want to go into it and i can imagine that the psychic window and carlos castanedas "not doing" the world is much the same thing. i strongly recomend the castaneda books. once upon a time they really shoke my butt but here i am at the very beginning, i suppose... or am i? whatever...

poem...

ooh yes! here i am finally! just like before! yes just like i´ve
allways been. at the beginning. why am i surprised? WHY AM I SURPRISED?

best,

jonas

this is a link to the NEW tutorial. very nice energydevelopment that i know many people on this forum is using.

http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/new/new.htm

good luck!

/jonas

hi...

i used my last month in school not listening to teachers but seeing this glowing light from them instead... my lights were more white. the greenblue thing sounds very cool!seems like you have cooler auric visions than i... or maby priests are more filled with greenblue energy.

//jonas

a prestation is what you generate. a footballplayer makes prestations in matches. bad or good. thats what he means. it seems right to use such a word in english to a pair of european ears. i think...

/jonas

hello tao!

this is well described by mr bruce. theres no reason to look for anything or see anything. its just you, climbing a rope from your own point of view. the idea is to remember what it is like to climb a rope. what does the rope feel like, what type of movements are you doing, detailes helps me, you dont have to actually feel it, just pretend. dont try to build up pictures of things, just climb. how it feels to lift yourself up is important, the striving upwards is important, thats what makes the whole thing. once you get some of the climbingmemories, just keep it going, keep on, keep on, sometimes it just works on its own. dont let unimportant thaughts and doubts stay in your mind, just let them go.

good luck / jonas

hmm... not like heartbeats to me... more like waves with no certain pattern to it. i have not much experieces of actual obe´s but i will try to explain the shaking even though. to me it´s a bit like loosing form and become under the influence of drastic waves. often they become very brutal and it feels physical but not dangerous though. maby because of the knowledge of what it is. i also find problems visualise these waves. its more like catching something that feels like motion in the body and see where it leads to me. often when i have managed i have lost control a while before and sort of woken up in the waves.

i think "rope"-technique is a good alternative. very good. it combines focus and relaxion, the rule is, keep climbing an imagined rope WHATEVER HAPPENS! and then you just ding dong dang dangelidang doodi! youre out. this robert bruce is really fantastic to me.  

//jonas

emotions and whether to show them or not was discussed...

i would really love to share something i learned and expeienced on a vipassanacourse.

we probably all agree on that not expressing the emotions, bad or good, doesnt take them away. as i first heard and then experienced is that the emotions is only reactions on physical sensations. a bad sensation will build a state of mind that will do everything to get rid ot that sensation. so tense. the mind trying to work right against the body.

pain for example. the hate created towards pain will not take pain away, you can feel it without reacting, with a quiet mind put the sensaitions in the focal point of your awareness, to actually feel the pain as what it is, energy, rising and passing. its painful in the begining but with much practice and equanimity towards the pain.  pain is not pain and not worth reacting on.

i dont think this technique makes dead vegetables, but i think it makes controled minds that knows about the true nature of things, "good and bad". not reacting in circles, on bodily sensations, but acting as it is best to act, depending on the situation.

thank you!

yours
//jonas

i can hear my own breathing during physical exercise and songtechnique-training. its closer than anything ive ever heard and the voice becomes very loud, but its only my own breathing taking a way through my head or something, not sure this is the same thing youre experiencing. hmm... yepp, thats it.

if you hear your voice loudly in your head when you talk as i do, youd better think again, then its nothing unphysical.

/jonas

there must be a way to know the best to do but i havent found it yet. i have this picture in my brain of being used and use, just follow what youre controling. probably just some feeling inspiered of the castaneda-books. i went crazy when i read them but i just love them anyway! somebody read them?

/jonas