Messages

I attempt AP on my back, and sleep on my side. Maybe I should start sleeping on my back though...it makes a lot more sense.

When I quit trying to AP on my back, I roll over on my side and fall asleep pretty fast. But it's like I'm giving up. So if I were to fall asleep on my back...

This guy?



I wish!!

I google'd "the hat man" I found some pretty interesting stuff.

As for shadow people, I may have interacted with one once in an OBE, but it could have been something else. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/my_first_obe-t29789.0.html;msg241470#msg241470 I'm not exactly sure what it was though.

I've wanted to try staying awake for 48-72 hours, because I remember reading that you can hallucinate, and that it's possible to see shadow people. The only hard part is finding an appropriate time to stay up for 72 hours...and the fact that I would freak out if I actually did see anything...

But I'm sure someone here has probably had an experience with shadow people, and I'm sure there's some kind of explanation for shadow people in astral terms, too.

shadow people stuff:
http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Shadow_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people
http://drfong.blogspot.com/2008/01/shadow-people-hat-man.html

This has only happened to a few times, so far, but it freaks me out every time.

When I go to bed, it usually takes me a while to go to sleep, so I do my fair share of tossing and turning. Lately, I've tried to go to sleep right away, and this is what's happened:

I'll start to remember something, while I'm still pretty awake, and I'll recall a memory of something that happened to me. Except, after about a minute, I'll realize that something isn't right with the memory, and I'll realize that I had no part in it at all - that it wasn't my memory to begin with. And then I'll forget about it completely. Kind of like a mini-dream or something.

I'll sit up in my bed and even try to remember the memory out loud, but it's only a complete blank.

This wouldn't bother me if I had fallen asleep and then woken up immediately after, because I would at least know that it was a dream. But this happens while I'm still (at least) half awake. And it is really freaking me out. I can't remember (at all) something that I thought of a minute before. 

Has this ever happened to anyone else?

Based on that logic everyone is a moron except for you! Not nice!!

I think he means there's never going to be a point where everyone agrees with one side. I don't think this is an argument that anyone could ever win.

Controlling myself.  Controlling myself.

But seriously though, do any of you guys get ticked when you see stupid excrement like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKbEI8pDz0A

[with]

I could really do with these 'evil is bad love and light consciousness spiritual happy' talks

Did you mean without? lol

I do hope that 2012 is going to be crazy, that there will be aliens, that there will be some badass psychic stuff going on, that there will be zombies or something, instead of nothing at all. Because real life is actually pretty boring. That's why I got into OBE stuff in the first place.

[if]

Well,

You'd probably become possessed by aliens, your soul would be destroyed, and if you were to wake up, your head would probably fall off. Then you would blow up from spontaneous combustion.


..at least, that's what I heard.   


But really though, who knows? Try it out for yourself and tell us what happens 

so the green eyed society appears any where it wants? like, to any stranger's house at night?
that is creepy--- can they harm us? 

No, probably not. I wouldn't worry about it. This green eyes thing actually sounds kind of cool.

Lol, I remember the first time I got vibes - I thought I was being possessed :X

This is not good at all.

I would like to note that I had a freaky 2012 dream last night, and that I woke up nervous. It was f*cking scary.

In my dream, though, there were good 2012 aliens and bad 2012 aliens. So don't freak out too bad

I'm pretty sure that's impossible. 

=\


this is the kinda stuff that makes me scared of OBE's...


:X

The only 2 OBE's I've had happened while I was listening to my mp3 player. Since I was using it, I could tell how long the OBE's were, so it's kinda useful I guess. Just make sure it's not too loud that you won't OBE...and during one of my OBE's I kept hearing weird beats - it turned out to be my mp3 player. Lol. It was pretty funny actually.


I say go for it.

As far as I know, the timer method that's used in lucidology 101 works like this:

You fall asleep, the timer wakes you up, partially, and you OBE.

I would be wary of the whole "you could have OBE's the first time you use this method" thing. But yeah, fall asleep, wake up from the timer, and when you wake up, you'll have tons of vibrations. Or something like that.

I still cannot suceed in astral projection. so I decided I would try to spread awareness and ask you guys to please help lost souls if youe encounter them. I really dont know very much and am open to advice or any comments but it would seem to me that without help lost souls are really doomed to exsist forever in pain. and I realized that it would be great if we could help them. There only chance of ever having their endless torment stopping is you guys so please dont leave them they are people too.
thanks so much

Don't give up so easily bro. Seriously though, if you have a legitimate reason for going astral, it shouldn't take you that long to get into it. Good luck!

Okay, so I've been trying out astral projection/OBE stuff for about 3 months now. I've only gotten full body paralysis (through meditation) a few times during this length of time.

But in the last month, I've had a dream every night except for 1 or 2 nights. From what I've experienced, if I just relax for only 15-20 min. in bed, I'll have very vivid dreams. But most of the time, they're nightmares, but that's not really a big deal.

Well anyway, my girlfriend just graduated from basic training in the army, and I went with her parents to South Carolina to attend her graduation. On the 2nd night of staying in a hotel, with no plans on having an OBE/meditation/anything, I had one. And I'm really hope that it wasn't something that just randomly happened, and that I'm actually learning something about OBE's.

So here it is: I fell asleep listening to my mp3 player, which is actually pretty cool - I know the exact length of time that I was sleeping because of the song that I woke up listening to, and the song I fell asleep listening to. I'd say I was asleep for about 10-12 minutes.

I woke up with someone standing over me. I started to panic, but instinctively thought to pull myself out of my body. So, I did, it looked like someone climbing out of a hole in the ground. I got stuck about halfway out, though, and I reached out to the person that was standing over me.

Let me describe this person, or entitiy, at this point. I have no idea what they looked like. I'd have to say that the were of the same height as me, around 6 feet tall, but the person was completely black. Even though this was at night, and the setting of this OBE was on a hill with tall grass under the sky, the person was blacker than the sky. A complete shadow. It was the strangest thing I've ever seen.

I had gotten half way out, but I got stuck. I started yelling (or thinking) for help, and I kept calling the person "my spirit guide", or whatever. Well, whoever it was, they were a complete badass because they just walked away. I remember hearing the grass move under their feet. It was incredible. There was a lot of wind in my face too, and after a little bit, I lost my vision. But I could still hear the person walking away. If I had to guess, from what I felt, I'd say that they wanted me to follow them, so this is something I really want to get back to when I can.

After I lost vision, and I had small lucid dream where I had no control, and where I panicked and couldn't breathe. I woke up completely dumbfounded. I guess that's the best way to describe it.

But I'd have to say that if you're having trouble with having an OBE, to keep trying at it. It took me 3 months to have one that was only for a few moments, but it was worth it. It was so awesome. And I just want to go and try for it again.

If I can get another OBE the same way I did the first time, there was something (sort of) special, so I might just have a new method to achieving OBE. Hopefully.

Sorry to make this such a long post for something that wasn't very long at all, but I just have to say that OBE and astral projection are one of the coolest things I've ever experienced.

Feel free to list the places you want to go (or wish to go) when you're having an OBE

- for example, if I went outer body, I'd go right up to the sun. That would be f*cking crazy.


Besides that, though, there are tons of sweet places I would go to

- haunt the excrement out of my friends (not really a place, but high on my list)

- find out where J.D. Salinger lives

- The White House (although I've read that it's not wise to do so)

- other dimensions. Would be pretty cool.

- akashic records (of course)

- AREA 51 (again, maybe not a good idea)

- Any famous haunted location (possibly a really bad idea)

- a black hole in outer space (impossible to find, probably the worst idea of all time)


These are ideas right off the top of my head,
so start posting a bunch cool ideas - like going inside of an Egyptian pyramid. That excrement would be intense.

Are you familiar with the movie Final Destination?

Same concept. Pretty freaky when it actually happens though...or pretty useful, whichever way you look at it. I get deja vu all the time, but that's something entirely different.

What did you mean by your wife's scientific training though?

whenever I have false awakenings, they are _terrible_


well, actually, most of my dreams are either nightmares or terribly strange. Oh well.

the OBE gets me into a full-body paralysis state. After that, I don't know what to do. And as for "doing business" with iDoser, you can easily get most of them for free. Not that I'm advocating that, but you can find tons of stuff on the internet for free these days, right? 

..your ears spilled something?


lmao


I've never heard of that before. But I guess...


I have no idea.

add me if you get the chance,


mrguy111@live.com

I've had this before. It usually happens in my legs, they get really hot, and they start twitching on their own. It's happened with my arms before, and on one occasion, my actually jolted upwards. Kinda freaky. If I relax more it goes away I guess. But when it does happen, it ruins my trance, lol.

When I open my chakras, I pull energy through my legs (at least, that's what this - http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/rbruce1.html - said to do).

Well, lately when I'm doing this, my legs are starting to get really hot. They start to twitch and buzz like crazy, and I won't be able to concentrate on anything. And I know they're actually not warm at all, because I'll feel them, and they're not particularly hot or anything - maybe a little warm.

Has this happened to anyone else? What should I do?

It's more annoying than anything else