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quote:Originally posted by Dream Cadet

One thing about recalling dreams.  I have found that I can recall dreams if I relax and start "brushing" my toes and feet according to Robert Bruce's NEW technique as soon as I wake up.  After a couple of minutes of brushing, a memory scene just pops into my mind.  If you use the NEW energy technique, give it a try for a couple of mornings for a few minutes and see how it works.

D.C.

Hi Dream Cadet,

This was exactly what i am talking about... By doing that you move your conciousness into your astral counterpart and while you are close to the physical, both of your bodies share the same thought at that moment. If you think through your dream memories at that point, your physical body records them as memories.

This is what Robert Bruce calls Memory Downloading.

Robert also suggests to download astral bodies memories into physical body time to time on long journeys in the astral. That way you can remember a loooong journey and tell others about it...

Very best,
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Hi ascendtodivinity,

From what you said i understand what you feel. Because i felt the same way at the beginning.

It is all about expectations... I mean if you expect to be there just as physically being there, you can never have an OBE or LD.

The easiest thing is to have an LD. So here is my suggestion to you:

Do some energy work, after then get into deep trance... When you feel yourself huge or disoriented do this:

Pretend yourself diving into a deep sea with your eyes closed. Swim in the water, keep swimming, feel the water sorround you, feel the swimming sensation, try to hear the water sounds as well... Your eyes will be closed so dont expect to see anything...

When it starts to feel real, you will fall asleep. So make it short... And try to get familiar with the feeling...

Hope it helps,
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atalanta,

Great post!

Thanks
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One more thing:

Before judging the thread take in account that this topic had 20 replies and 300 page views in less than 24 hours...

So, I suggest you to let the people talk. Everybody has something about it in their minds but they remain silent because they believe it is something unethical... The interest shown to this topic reveals the need of information on the subject i believe...

Very Best,
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quote:Originally posted by ralphm

birm, thanks for sharing your experiences.
There seems to be different levels of the astral sex experience- the writhing piles described by robert monroe, genital level experiences and the experience of onneness  with another soul.
Maybe there is some of each in every experience, and the more the oneness the more satisfying the experience?

Hi ralphm,

I havent read robert monroe much so i can not have any comment on it. But the experience i had also minor differences than what Robert Bruce describes... I dont have enough knowledge or experience to discuss why it is more or less satisfying but I relate the joy you have with the personal desires and wills...

The experience is created by your own subconcious or Astral counterpart, so i believe it will create the best experience for you...

Very Best,
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quote:Originally posted by nitetravler

Hey Birm,

thanks for sharing your experiences.

Many of the writers (Monroe, Buhlman, Taylor) speak of astral sex as an exchange of energy. If that's so then perhaps on an energetic level the polarity between men and women are equalized or exchanged so that men take in the feminine (yin) energy, and women take in the masculine (yang) energy, causing a polarity balance between the participants. I've heard that this experience is very blissful. While Buhlman spoke of the great joy and ecstasy he felt during these encounters I can't say I've had the mind-blowing astral sex that he had. (darn it!!!) [!]

Hi nitetravler,

Why dont you try it for yourself... I can understand what Buhlman might be talking about because i felt the same way too.

But there are things you cant just describe you have to live them in order to understand...

One more thing: It doesnt always feel the same... That also happens in real sex too...
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quote:Originally posted by Dream Cadet
Maybe someone can start a topic about the ethics/morality and leave this topic to the mechanics of it.  What do you think?[]

D.C.

Hi Dream Cadet,

I totally agree with you. And If someone wants to judge me on opening such a thread then one should judge Robert Bruce for that Astral Sex article too...

Very Best,
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Galacticsurfer,

I didnt wanted to quote Robert's article because as a whole it is a good article to read.

I suggest everyone to have a look at it...

Good luck on your travels []
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Hi galacticsurfer,

If you read the article about Astral Sex that Robert Bruce wrote you can learn the difference between who a dreaming person is and who an astral creature is.

I am talking about letting your subconcious or astral body to create an imaginary environment, an imaginary partner and having an imaginary sexual experience.

Is that clear?
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First of all I AM NOT CHEATING ON ANYONE.

But a few months before i was engaged and i had a sexual lucid dream one night. I felt real uncomfortable and ashamed with my self.

But at the moment i have sexual desires and i am really not ready for a new relationship. I want to listen to my self for a few months. I need to be alone... But my physical body has desires and having Astral Sex with an Astral Creature can do no harm to anyone i believe. It is like watching an erotic movie or porn. Who can blame me by doing this?

This topic is meant to help the ones that want to have Astral Sex.

I didnt mean to start up an ethical discussion right here.

Very best,
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Hi EOL007,

I totally agree with your ideas and thoughts but this topic was meant to talk about astral sex and not love. Astral sex is a very interesting topic and everyone talks about it but when it comes to discuss the details, everyone generally starts talking about ethics. I have the courage to talk about these things because sex is a natural instict of the human being.

And love... Thats another story...

Very best,
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Flying is just another method of travelling through the astral environment. As Robert Bruce suggest you can just concentrate some place and appear there. Or turn around yourself and find yourself wherever you want to be. There are such methods. Refer to Treatise on OBE or Astral Dynamics.

But i think i can explain your floating back down.
1. You dont believe that you can fly.
2. You dont have enough concentration.
3. You dont have enough energy.
4. You dont really want to fly, you are just giving it a try.

Because everyone can fly in the astral. As you dont have such weight there...
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WOMEN!!! CAN NEVER MAKE A DECISION AS YOU SEE!!![!]

(btw Why am i yelling???) [8D]

Yes it helps remembering regular dreams, and when you remember you get suprised how familiar the dream memories are... Just give it a try and tell me the results...
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About memory download:

I have experienced this a lot of times... When i get up or return to physical i suddenly forget the memories of the experience i had. But then one day i realized that The Dream ME remembers the recent dreams exactly... So i went into a deep meditation with Bwgen using deep mind VI preset, after 20 minutes i focused on my dream self... And i remembered my dreams exactly... This is just a great method to download the memories of your Astral self...


Just give it a try and tell me if it works for you too... So maybe we can post this as a sticky named remembering the experiences method.
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Hi Nick,
I think you gave a right decision to move the topic. Thanks for that.

Hi wisp,
Your experience is very interesting. I am also having similar experiences all my life. Thats why i am here searching for an answer to all of those anyway...

About Triangle method, as Nick said you can find all about it on the Permanent Astral Topics forum... I you have any further questions about it. I can answer for sure...

Best Regards,
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quote:So Birm you don't mind fishing with an ancient Greek?

No I dont mind. I like greek gals. I also had a few relations with them... If you don't mind fishing with an actual Turk... I am on it.

P.S. Maybe I will have to ask my mother about this first.

A soul never gets older...

But...

Well...

I am too young for you i believe...

I mean...

Well...

Oh ok! Let's go fishing then... []
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Thanks for the kind reply... I cant wait for the answers...

Btw: I will try to contact too.
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Hi there SpectralDragon,

I have a few questions:

1. Why didn't god forgive Satan?
2. Is human life is for a test?
3. Do we think by using our brain or do we think by using our soul?
4. Where exactly is the soul connected to our body? The brain or the Chest or where?
5. Will there be a judgement day? If there will be then will it be the first judgement day?
6. Do you have your own free will? If you do, what are the limitations of your free will?
7. Have you ever been taken control of a human body? Or have you ever been seen by any human being for some purpose?
8. Which angel built the architecture of our bodies?
9. I am trying to contact with you for a long time. Do you know about it? and What am i doing wrong?

If you like my questions i have many more. Just ignore me if you dont want me to ask more...

Thanks anyway,
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I like women that i can be good friends... I mean i shouldnt be acting like i am trying to impress her, nor should she. We must be pure ourselves and if that way we can feel love than we can be a good couple i believe...

But you never know how it happens when you fall for someone.

There is no logic in men - women relationships... It just happens...

So let it be.
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quote:I find it extremely funny, that women are called the weaker sex

Women are not called the weaker sex but they usually tend to act like that i believe. Just to make things easier for them. I mean i am a software engineer and there are a lot of women here working with us. And as i see they always ask for help when they stuck coding complicated things but men usually dont.

When women ask for help i usually try to explain things first, then i see that they just dont want to understand so i sit and solve their problem myself. But when it comes to men, they are trying hard to solve problems by themselves. Even if they ask for help they usually listen to the explanation and try to solve the problem by themselves again.

I think the difference is because of the growing up of the species. A 5 year old boy is always trying to prove himself to the other. While on the other hand 5 year old girls usually seem to be alone in their world to me.

Well thats just an observation.
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Well without getting into a philosophic discussion, i will tell you what my purpose is:

To improve myself in everyway that i can.
To create things that has never been created before.
To make the people happy (the people who loves me without asking for it, parents etc..).
To understand the architecture of the universe in physical means.

The list can go on like this...
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Marriage:
Well i think basically marriage is to tell everyone that you and your partner are together for some time. But it is needed for inheritence issues and laws to protect the children. But two people can be together without marrying anyway. The marriage rules are for protecting the innocent(children maybe) i believe.

Love:
If two are willing to love each other, share their lives, hate each other, need each other, ignore each other, miss each other, punish each other, hurt each other thats what i call love. The most complicated feeling of the human being...

Sex:
Well you can live without sex but it is triggered by hormones so there is not much to say. Every beatiful woman / sexy man just can trigger your sexual sensations. You dont need to have a soul to have sex with another one.

Well that was my fifty cents anyway,
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quote:
Have you tried the same technique with other objects / people ?

Hi Mark!

Yes i tried with other objects and mostly with my fiancee Well i sometimes come up with thoughts that are not true in reality. But you can never be sure what is true and what is not...

I wanted to share this method with the community because i would be pleased if other people would get involved with the akashic records and help us all on reading them correctly. For example we need a way to confirm a thought form is an akashic record or not.

quote: My experience with events of the future (akashic records) is very different: I access the informations in my sleep and it appears to me as dreams.

Hi shaman,

My experience is no different than yours i think.

We are both accessing the Astral Pulse forums and i am using mozilla while you are using Internet Explorer.

I think if you can concentrate on listening your thoughts while falling asleep or waking up. You may come up with an experience similar to mine.

Regards,
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