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I have two questions related to remote viewing.

1.
I just attempted to go until the stage of vibrations, but settled my conciousness having formulated the goal being RTZ. I had no vibration, but I found myself in an interesting situation: my eyes were closed, and I could see the ceiling of my room. Except that there was center light device which is not there in physical. It was quite astoniching, but I could watch it long enough to tell myself: Why can I see the ceiling, while my eys are closed? I think it longed for something like 5 seconds. And I was fully conscious.

- Was this RTZ? (I remember reading in the OBE treatise that in the Astral, furniture can stay longer than they do in physical)

- What could I do of such a state? is it easy to get vibrations from there?

2.
I have seen a little girl that apparently is the appearance my guide chose for the moment. But That was in a certain focus, and I would like to know what it's called, alas I've got only some glimpses and I'm not sure I can describe it enough for you to respond. Anyway I'll try. The pictures seem overexposed, white, but I can perceive beings in another manner, I Feel them, and can almost tell who they are even if the picture is of no help. I see a family on the left, with a mother a father, and a child, they are in a house that looks like a scenery (it doesnt have all walls as though to show me what's inside.
On the right, a little girl is calling my name, seeming wanting to play with me, and I actually figured out she might be my guide. I can hear their voices, but very very far.

- I would like to know what focus this might have been, for I assume it was somewhere on some plane.
- What is the focus dreams happen on?

If you want me to precise some criteria to help you give me answers, just ask, you're welcome!

When aproaching sleep I hear distant voices, but can never clearly approach them because if I realise I'm "starting to dream" I get more awake and don't hear them anymore. I don't want to hear them in a normal state, but where do these voices come from? they seemed like being voices of people I don't really know, but once I heard one of them call me, so I really wonder: am I creating these voices, or do they somehow exist?

I let myself go for more than two hours and became very numb
I even felt my hands changing position although I'm sure they did not move. But every time I tryed to control the movement, my physical reacted fast.
So I decided to stop paying attention to everything, and images of dream came. Each time I realised I was starting to dream, I would become awake. Once also, I had a very strong flash of light, and some vibrations flowed fast in my whole body... but I was not ready for fast sensations and came back to the other state of awareness where I started.

Did I approach OBE, AP, or lucid dream?

How can I focus on something while not coming back to awakeness?

I have theory for newbies that must be checked or completed by experts, for I'm a newbie.

I think the "tiggling" might be associated with little incisings that make some kind of skin permeacle. Then the vibrations are a flow of energy that moves from the place it is usually, and frees itself from its ordinary use: move the physical body.

All this work, when it is for the first time of the life of someone ungifted like me is a very slow, and very long work.For me it started with the hands, and now it continues with the feet and legs... it just came until my knee, but I was lying since 3 hours, and really needed to move.

I feel like this work is performed by little beings, not very talkative, but very receptive to the thoughts you have... if you feel disapointed, or don't believe it will work, they prefer do something else than freeing you from the physical. If you use "the gift"
cf http://www.sidereus.org/library/thegift.htm
with them, and give something right, they might be a little more concerned by you and then work faster, or more effectively.

Everybody is free to comment!

could somebody list me the focus states from c1 to f10 for I found only a list for f10 to f35

I had a dream tonight that showed me a "collective neg" it was a big dragon, and kinapped people in order to eat them alive like a spider does. My guide (with whom I can talk day and night) was unable to completely protect me from it because he is just a personal guide, not a collective light force like God would be. Do you think something as a collective neg can really exist? my dream was not a lucid dream or AP.. so of course it might be some unconscious idea transformed with yesterday preoccupations about negs and so on...

I have started practicing only yesterday, so I of course guess that I need more practice. But I felt still interesting things that make me wonder:
1. After a whil without moving my hands (about 20 min) I feel like my fingers are touchin themselves, but they actually are not... any explanation?
2. yesterday, I felt like someone was pulling my hand out of... my hand, and I could feel like this invisible hand, very light, and it seemed to be unable to move fast, like if my invisible body were paralysed, instead of my physical body, which I have to do efforts not to move at all. Is it my imagination? or is there a real start of dissociation between my physical and inivisible body?
3. What are Gamma wave, why do they say they are dangerous, and what are the dangers?
4. I listend to extracts of monroe tapes, and tryed to obey the voice... but I think I missed the first tracks of the CD... it says move to the 12, move to the 3 move to the 6, to the 9... I really don't understand what this is all about.
5. Is someone here able to list me the states that are labeld Focus 12 focus 15 etc. And tell me the hexaustive list from the start?...I orderd a book from Monroe, but will receive it in two weeks, and am not even sure there is this list in it.

I have a friend, who had some OBEs without actually trying to, and she is very much afraid of not being able to come back to her body. Is that a real danger?

beavis then you must have a trick to go from lucid dream (astral) back to RTZ without coming back to physical body?

Actually in my dream, all started with hands helping me getting out of body in my room... so I may think I was actually projecting to RTZ, but I'm not sure if it was vivid enough (I remember a sure projection, that was hell of a lot more vivid)

Then do you have to check for evidential data to say that you definately were in RTZ, or would it be obvious, and does it need to be free of any abnormal things..... ??

Nagual I guess the wall and body just overlap

well as I already said: they were skin colored, but yes melted like wax under a tortch... so I guess it was not a projection.... as I stated firstly however

I'm french: what means whispy? what means legit?
and please try to develop "legit" because I don't see what it means even if I assume it means legitimate.

Well thank you for your replies
If I understand well you don't move from lucid dream to RTZ you just restart the exit procedure from a half asleep moment... And you have both to stay in bed doing some technique before having any vibration..
In no way you travel from a dream to RTZ it seems... just from sleeping state to projection...

could you detail and repeat that answer many times so I can dig it all?
please?

I read that someone who was dieing could be simply recalled to the physical world if one would scratch the palm of his/her hand... there's a chakra there, and it's one of the links between bodies. Of course, the person would be required to have a functionning body in order to live in it.

About trace, go reassure your parents, as long as your body breathes and your heart beats you're safe... and they don't stop that easily. You don't have sleep apneas? then you don't need a doctor.

kozzi you talked about Aleister Crowley but I don't see anything relating this guy to astral sight. I'm interested in reading about how to control astral sight do you have any reference?

Tiffany, Thank you for your post, it really touches me, for actually I'm also trying to find some people to have around when I'm starting to dislike the feel of the night. It didn't happen to me all these things, before, but I became suddenly much more sensitive, and the atmosphere has much more effect by now than it used to have. I also have learned to take into account many things that I used to ignore, for the moment it doesnt make me happier, but I want to bet it will, with time.

Syko dragon
Robert bruce says shields are rather useless for begginners because visualisations takes a lot of training in order to be effective. He also adds that taking a shiel countermeasure will only provoque eventual attackers, who will take their first occasion to go past the visualised shield that faded, and attack. I believe it's true, for one day, I was very afraid, and anguish, and visualised very often some shield, and actually on one of the times the dread took over I felt like something jumped in my belly, right after that I went to sleep on running water for an hour, and I thought it was over, but I threw up two times, and was very tired all day... the next day was already much better, but I will remember what dread and fear can do to my health!...

That's what I needed to read Fallnangel.
I had actually decided to do so because I've been ill on monday, and threw up two times, and the more I thought about negs, the more I felt ill, so I decided I was going to learn how to just know they are everywhere, and ignore them. It's not easy to do this in your head: feeling it somewhere, ready to feed on the attention you give it, and trying to live your life normally... This little desease was a great lesson about negs: it just said to me, that in most cases, the negs I feel in my life, will only harm me as they usually do: according to circumstances, and especially on my state of mind, it's a kind of psychosomatic thing, now I realise it's always running in the background, but it should not prevent me from having a normal life just because I know more about it... But still I realise it has taken a great importance in a very short time, and I step back with prudence!

in or if ?
anyway, reformulate, I don't understand the question.

it's a very gentle sucking: you don't even notice it: but robert bruce reports real bad sucking when he got bitten by a bad bad neg, and when the sucking is bad, you feel exhausted then.

Thanx for the advise, I'm planning to look that up, but for now I have energy techniques that will suit me until I've finished the reading of astral dynamics, and practical psychic self defense. (this last one makes me completely paranoid, don't buy it unless you can cope with a gloomy view of the world!

Negative entities "bhooo!"

beavis, you never thought some negs could suck you when you sleep? You never feel drainings when you wake up?

you don't answer my question, but I answer yours.
Incubus is described in "Practical psychic self defense" by Robert Bruce as the male variation of the Succubus, Demon that feeds on sexual energy release by orgasm. (I doubt this was one for me for the sensation was very soft and mild) He uses incubus term for both male and female assuming they have exactly the same essence, and choose what their appearance will be according to their victim.

Actually this book is really gloomy, don't read it at night!

but do you feel them in physical life, you can't kick them in the butt if you don't see them...