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for those of u who remember me, i posted a little bit months ago. i stopped ebcause i couldn'e even attempt to have an OBE with all those insects outsie, but its fall and they are all dead now.

i tried to ober a while ago, and i fel like i was sitting up. also i've beem slipping into.. something.. lately. like i'll fall asleep in class and partially wake up or something, and i'll feel vibrations and i'll 'slip" into a dream but know what going on and i cant move. also what is that weird noise i hear in my head all the time? during the day its a shap high pitched noise, but at night its a dull drone.

last night was REALLY hard to do anything. i like couldn't relax. i remember my muscles twitching aloit and i cant ever get music out of my head. anyway, i didn't ap, but i remember feeling like i could lift my hands out of my body, and i think they were slipping out, or atleast it felt like it, but i didn't try to move them because it didn't feel like anything was really happening in my brain and i didn't want to move my arms and mess things up. what happened?

i'm a raw foodist/vegan, so i'll have EXCELLENT health with little toxin in my body once i detox. (its only been 7 days, and i cheated today) so if i'm really healthy, will aping be easier? just wondering.

Hi, i'm 13 yrs old, and i'm trying AP. the closest i've ever came to doing anything is seeing white spikey lights and hearing a buzzing, and getting the that 3d blackness, and feeling like i was sitting up when i wasn't. (like raising up from laying down)

i have alot of trouble clearind my mind of anythoughts. its REALLY hard because i'm constantly thinking during the day, so its really hard to not think about anything, Also, whats the difference between OBE and Phasing? Thanks.

Oh, and last night i felt like, a sensations over my whole body. i guess vibrating, but its like, my bodyw asn't physiccally vibrating, y'know?

thanks for all the help.

i get that all the time, too! only how can it be hypnagogic (sp) if  i can move? my body is numb, but if i wanted to move i could.

you dont have a disease.i was told its the sound of electrical impulses in your brain. I hear it when ever it is quiet and there is no background noise. when i focus on it it gets louder. i've always heard it, in fact, i remember clearly hearing it when i was about 4 years old because i remember asking my mom what it was.

Wrong place. Try the Energy forum.

i just typed a huge page, but i wasn't logged in,so can we just talk on AIM? that would be easier for the both of us, imo.


my aim sc is cparsonsss

You seem kind of impatiant. Could speak or walk fluently on your first few attempts? Just keep at it and dont expect much. You WILL eventually do it. I didn't do it for a while after I started, and although i hace come close to it many times by accident, I have only done it twice, and only once directly to the astral.

I hope you do it soon! it feel SO real! In the meantime, do reality check as often as possible, that way you can have lucid dreams almost everynight, and you can project to the astral from there! It's all in Astral Dynamics, which I encourage you to buy.

holy crap. If someone tries to rape you agian, just make them stop. i think your afraid and your subcon. is manifesting that fear. there are no negative entities there, you just THINK there are. I dont understand what your asking about dreaming inside a dream, but i've dreamed that i was dreaming before, and it doesn't cancel anything out because your not really dreaming inside a dream, because its just a dream.

I dont see how you seperate reality from "not reality" and physical from      
astral/rtz. alot of what you have talked about seems like you were just in the rtz.

i would go to a doctor and try to get on valumme or something else that will give you a deep dreamless sleep. maybe see a therapist or something. I only WISH i could do what you can do.

in that case,i almost phased last night! when you go to sleep you start to think about silly things, and last night i did that then got vibes (nothing really heavy like obe vibes) and i freaked out and ruined it...


i've done this 2 other times . its like i melt with the scenerioof whats happening.

oh, i ALWAYS dream in color. thats odd.

I've never had a lucid dream before, and i've only been able to feel and smell in a dream twice. I Hope you continue having these dreams! they are fun, huh? Its kind of like virtual reality.

doesn't everyone dream in color?

it sounds like a lucid dream to me. did you know what was happening while this was happening? i mean, did you think "wow! this is an OBE/lucid dream!!" because i have had dreams that seem so real, that i wake up and start freaking out because i thought those things REALLY happened, and they were just dreams.

so, how do i get everything back in balance? just work on the others equally? should i leave the brow chakra alone for a week or so??

its not excrutiating (sp? ), but i wish i didn't have the pain.

it worked! i had a real time projection and i just walked around my house. not a big deal My dog could see me, though.that was pretty cool!

lol. it was last year when i feel asleep, and ifi'm only doing it on the weekends, then whats the harm.

oh, and pease dont call me sweetie just because i'm younge,it REALLY makes me uncomfortable.

oh, i made 100's on both of those tests. i fell asleep (well, not my mind anyway)while the test was in progress, after i was finished.

i've been trying your way for awhile. now i'm trying it my way a few times

Both of my Obes (while i knew about obes) have been on my stomach while my head it turned to one side, AFTER listening to inducing music for an hour or so.

I've seperated in class twice while i fell asleep during a test. interestingly, i was laying on the table (we were in science class, so no desks) so i was on my stomach, in a way.

Most "teens" (that i know) dont like DBZ or pop music or any of the other "teenage" images. IMO, the people that come here who aren't serious about it, like dbz junkies, just want to feel special. Others, who are serious about it, usually dont have the mentality to match their age.

Its a nice idea, but i dont think anyone would use it. Look at the Astral Pulse Island forum, it was a nice idea too, but no one uses it.

1- yes, but i cant keep a simple scene. example, i can keep a complex scene, and even emerse myself in it if i'm relaxed and tired enough, but i cant keep an image of say, a triangle on a simple background.
2-Its the band singing it acurately.
3-maybe a .5 lol

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i get soemthing similar. it looks 2d, and often i get like, a swirley. It will go around and around, slowly. its black on a yellowish back ground.

its like this lol. the arrow is the direction its rotating and the colors are just random colors of... randomness... lol. this whole time i cant feel my body but i am not in a trance.


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that is SO weird. i've ahd all my obes after i give up trying to AP and roll over, and i know it wasn't a lucid dream cuz i know whats happening while its happening and the vibrations aren't a big deal.

oh well. i had them and thats what counts![8D]
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maybe you can give me your little "gift" huh? lol. its a good thing. thats like f10.

do you have to be in f10? my body goes numb (not numb like its numb from lack of oxygen) but i could still move if i wanted, and the blackness looks like i could step into it. Oh yeah, i get swirly patterns like f12, but i can move if i wanted. is that a trance , too?

hmmm..... why dont you start earlier, that way you can spend more time on it? or use audio aids.

one thing i've learned is that good things happen slowly. Why not try to stop doing things quicker and just go witht he flow? or try some other tech. or just lay there and dont do anything at all. that works sometimes.

its amazing... just with yesterdays practice i already notice i havn't been repeating what i hear in songs and what people say over in my head.

when i focus on the blackness, my eyes have trouble and strain, so i dont really focus on anything or pay attention to my eyes 9i dont know how to explain it) also sometimes the blackness moves forward and backward rapidly. Very weird.

Fallnangel-- wouldn't it be good to practice visualization? just wondering if its as important as ppl say.

rodentmouse-- thanks alot! maybe when i'm alone i can try the mantra, but i'm already vegan and meditate, so my parents think i'm some kind of hippie freak, and i dont want to scare them lol. i'll DEFINATLY try it when i'm alone. thanks alot for your help.