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Namaste,
    Silversunset; aye, i guess my "duh" comment was a form of ego boost, and in that way, the upside of it would be that it wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.  So i was just expressing mild frustration.  im quite impatient sometimes.  i don't really have the answer to either question...actually, could you repeat for me each question individually?  i see one question only...but i don't have the answer for that question...i do have some experience and theoretical frameworks which seem to "work".  so?

Namaste,
    I don't come here much anymore...but I am glad I checked this post out. LotB, I send my love and salutations.  I really feel that, for me, I feel in your words, is a powerful and very clean distillation of your experience.  Thank you for sharing.  Wendi, your desire to help and offer your truth is commendable, but try reading LotB's post again.  Thank you both for your Love, Namaste

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Namaste,
    As I originally stated, my view is different Silversunset.  My experience has been that it is the ejaculation that, when performed, creates a level of unpreventable energy loss.  My rationalization for this statement is that we live in a universe made up of prakriti, the stuff of maya; or the temporary and relative crystallization of energy into "solid", three dimensional forms.  The natural acknowledgement then would be that as ejaculation is a moving of a substance alchemically created within the microcosm of the body, outside of the body, and splat, on the floor...there it rests.  Then the energy that that form contained is now inaccesable to the bioenergetic matrix of the body.  
    I do need to get a little tangental here....I have heard---Before Enlightenment; a mountain is a mountain.  During Enlightenment; a mountain is not just a mountain.  After enlightenment, a mountain is a mountain.  In the context of ejaculation, energy, orgasm...I have heard people say; "oh, you can just take the energy out of the semen and splurt away and be merry!".  I feel this is not so.  The semen IS the energy.  The semen is semen.  I feel like saying "duh".  And so I have.  []

Namaste,
    I really want to thank everyone for their articulate and genuine responses.  Thank you

Namaste,
    There are no demons, but those that exist within the hearts and minds of all peoeples everywhere.  Ghandi said something like that.  And probably others before him.  Even those demons that are real, really aren't.

Namaste,
     Haven't been here in a while and I am glad to see what I see.  I as especially excited to see such an interesting topic as kundalini energy.  I, as well as Mr. Bruce have seen little accurate information on the nature of this energy and its purpose within the human psycho-physical form.  I have read your response Mr. Bruce and I have to say that the nature of the energy itself is, in its essence what you say it to be.  Meaning this; that I get "high" when my kundalini activates and rises.  No other body energy does this.  And this is my offering/question.  I have ready many treatises that speak of the kundalini(an essentially Indian term, a.k.a.-sanskrit)as the same, or equivalent energy as the conception and governing vessel circuit(as named within the Chinese model).  I have, through personal experience, found this to be untrue.  Within the Indian(or from this point on, i will call "yogic")model; kundalini is described quite well, and in a very similiar, if not in confoundedly symbolic and esoteric forms; as Mr. Robert Bruce shares with us from his personal experiences.  I don't know what experience you(Mr. Bruce)have had with essentially Chinese models of energy body jargon; but I have found relavitly little if any direct references to such an energy even existing.  I have talked to a few people who are more experienced than I within those models, and they too have had very little to offer.  I know that the hui-yin cavity is to be contracted; and within the yogic system of body energy jargon, this is the moolah bandha; "base lock" or "root lock".  Now, from my personal experience, the microcosmic orbit is felt(by me)when I do not try to lift the hui-yin, or a moolah bandah.  It is very important for me to keep a relaxed root and genital region in order for the flow of chi to become proper and balanced through the conception and governing vessels.  On the other hand; when I concentrate the moolah bandha, or lift the hui-yin(for those who do not know, this refers to the subtle (and there is emphasis on subtle for a reason) contraction or "lifting" of the pelvic floor, or the urogenital diaphragm; this in itself seems to activate kundalini.  Now, both sensations are quite different for me.  When I am working within the microcosmic orbit, I feel generally balanced, healthy and happy.  When I am working with kundalini, it is intense, fast, extraodinarily consciousness expanding, and at times frightening.  So, Mr. Bruce, or anyone else who may be knowledgable of the issues brought forth, I am interested in any information pertaining to these energies; their differences, similarities, their relationship, harmonies and contradictions and most importantly, other experiences with these energies.  Thank you all, Namaste, shadowdancer

Namaste,
    aye, siddhis are.  for me, i couldnt say that i accomplished a siddhi because they just happen, as siddhis are described or translated to be considered "divine gifts" or "perfections" that are bestowed upon the yogi as a natural result of his inner work.  but what you are looking for is this: i have experienced the halting of time and other time distortions.  i have experienced the transmutation of matter and the negation of matter.  umm, the physical body shifting dimensional vibratory freqencies and the quantum anomalies that accompany such a change in consciousness, blah blah blah.  other stuff.  please dont get me wrong, these things are very very exciting to me, as i, like you, wouldnt be checking this forum!  but i do try and not focus on them as something extraordinary...it tends to activiate arrogance and delusions of personal exteralized power within my ego.  Anyone else with some experiences to share?  Namaste

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Namaste,
    TISHA-  

quote:I meant exactly what I said. I challenged you to think about how you will respond the next time a well meaning (albeit rude) person tells you that you are full of crap. I did not say that you WERE full of crap . . .

               that is why i asked.
      I know that Azithoth, despite his aggressiveness and crudity, can present insightful perceptions.  I do believe that i went out of my way to point that out some time ago on another thread, to YOU Tisha!  Regardless, i was not in any way dismissing his thoughts or perceptions of anything, but i certainly was presenting a challenging view in relation to his initial presentation of "occults, esotherians and con-artists".  More specifically, I was strongly challenging the usefullness of your view.  Which was, imho, a process projection, stereotyping and alienation.  
      Tisha, i heartily disagree with you that it is a "fact" that emotional energies are deadly within the context of magickal work.  In my world-view, everthing is magickal act of sorts, and for me, given THAT fact; the attunment to and awareness of own's emotional energies(tangent to control and suppression thereof)is essential to any magickal work.  Given my view, I feel it is cowardice that you edit your words.  In my opinion, it would have taken truer courage to let the comment stand and post another reply.  That is a correction in accordance with one's consciousness.  To edit the comment is to sweep it under the rug.    
       Introspection to feed the emotions....HA!  Then there is nothing!  It does not happen!  Have you heard of a concept called svadhyaya?  It is a sanskrit term meaning "one's own, going into".  In english, this could be said to mean "the process of introspective meditation of one's Self".  See for me, because i believe magick is everywhere and everthing, the motion of life and whatnot; in order to achieve clear INTENT in anything, Gnothi Seauton is the order of the day.  I shudder to think of the possibility that this process is considered by some to be, "indulgent".        
        Honestly, who cares what i label myself as?  What does it matter?  I am a human on a path.  As Ceriel has made comment, it is the essential which IS.  Please, try to understand, nothing wrong with labels per se, nor even stereotyping.  Its all about the context!  Tisha, you sound a bit frustrated that you do NOT know my intent.  Too many of us, myself included, spend much too much time, centering ourselves by pushing off of something or someone else.  
        Tisha, if I wanted to be a sorcerer; I would be just that.  A wannabe (just like you).  

quote:Maybe, someday, I shall be a real sorceress. But today, I'm just a wannabe . . .

 And I certainly would not call Azithoth's ramblings, "teachings" to be HEEDED!!  LOL!  
        My 2 cents?  If there are those out there who want to be sorcerers...stop trying to be a sorcerer.  

         Azithoth-  "If you wanna touch the sky, better learn how to kneel."  its a pop-culture reference, i baulk at using it, but you are not too good for a potential sat guru are you Azithoth?
       
                                       Much Love and Respect

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Namaste,
   One persons "self-absorbed rationalising" is anothers "thoughtful introspection".  The "challenge" you present was what?  Could you delineate that challenge?  Because at this moment, all I can see in your words is, "oh yeah, well, when someone says, what i feel you said to me, lets see if you handle it as well as i did!".  Unless, of course, you were actually stating that I am full of crap and you were challenging me to change in an undefined way that would be, to you, less full of crap.  If that is case, I again request, if you wish to communicate your feelings and perceptions of how I am full of crap; I am open to listenting.  I do request that you try your best to present your views with Love.  Tisha, I have read many of your other posts since I have joined the AP Forums, and have found in nearly every single post, you reference in some implicit or subtle way, your practical and personal work with magickal energies/intention.  For me, and if I may be so presumptuous, very possibly to many others; it is as close to an explicit statement as possible, that you see yourself as a sorceress.  Its great that you can admit to yourself and others that your magickal practice is haphazard at best.  And I ask, who is being presumptuous?  A wannabe? "just like me"?  Your credibility is pretty much shot.  You yourself state that you are a wannabe.  I have never made any claims or statements about any practices of mine.  And Tisha, are you ashamed of your original reply?  Asking if I was a 2-year old?  Why write something in the first place if you would be ashamed of it later.  Maybe some indulgent thoughtful introspection would do you well.  A loving challenge can certainly be a challenge.  Love is a very different quality than sentimentalism.  Sugar-coated=emotional sentimentalism.  Love=Truth.  Yes Tisha, I am old enough to take the occasional hit and barrage even.  Really, age isnt the defining in determining that, as you have shown us all.
                                       Love and Respect

Namaste,
    Tisha- Your initial reaction to my first post was imho, just that.  I called you on something and you said nothing to challenge me, you just sneered in my face.  I would prefer a loving challenge.  Also, why do you continually refer to your superiority as a magickal practicioner in relation to the vast bulk of humans.  Do you see something in the collective unconscious that makes you shudder?

    Azithoth- I am not a sociologist nor occultist.  Are you a label-whore?  Why do you spend so much time concerning yourself with what other people are doing, and how they aren't doing it right?  I am curious if this takes away from your practice?  

    In Love and Respect

Namaste,
    i couldnt pick just one!  top 3 are-
               Cemetary Man
               City of Lost Children
               Brotherhood of the Wolf

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Namaste,
   hmmm...maybe i miss the point...*sigh*....hmmm...  sure, sure...but what does it matter?  i mean, if you look at it from a different angle?  those people or types of people mentioned my azi and tish are really just plain people...i mean we all have shuckster and sychophants(sp?) hiding out inside us...glory hogs and kelshas of all sorts....in yoga, the kleshas("impurities")are given two main divisions of raga-passions=attractions and devesha-repulsions/dislikes.  i feel like when there is talk of emotional "needs", it could be useful to create a distinction between the egoic gratifications that we attach our Self to, and, i feel, in a more true and accurate "emotional need"; like loving ones Self, knowing community, feeling interconnectedness and communion with the Energies and Flow of Life and Death.  If we can see those around us who manifest extreme kleshas, avarice, greed, uncontrolled lust, rage, etc. as a sort of attempt of a blind person searching in the dark for that source of light which will bring sight.  Meaning that, to judge others in a moralistic context, and then to label them and ultimately create a sense of alienation and fear for that which is not connected to our Selfs...is in fact, a mirroring of those, maybe more subtle kelshas which still exist within our egoic energy matrix.  And there is nothing wrong with this, as it is a process whereby we can learn about ourselves...but there is also an inherent danger in any process of externaliztion and projection, and the challenge of such a process is to be able to recoginize what is what.  So, in my humble opinion Azithoth, Tisha, i dont see the initial approach to this topic of "people who are in pain and confusion and grasp from the darkness" as particularly appropriate....if there can be a shift in emphasis from "those people out there do this" to "i perceive outside myself people behaving in ways which i do not like; what are the deeper feelings(emotions) that i feel about such actions and how do they relate to me?".  really, as the topic stands, you could simply say "there are people other than me in the world who are lost, confused and doing things that are wrong."  offerred(sp?;squeek i know youre out there!) in love, shadowdancer

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Namaste,
    ahhh the crone!  hmmm...i didnt mean to state the womens sexuality is her only power.  its not the sex itself, but it is, for me, the process in which a woman relates to and manifests sexual energies and play.  initiation is a good example to illustrate my opinion.  in australian aboriginal culture, men have elaborate and very often held "secret" magic ritual and ceremony.  words of power, gesture, and a complex mental framework in which to percieve life.  the women have their secret ritual as well, but not as often and not nearly as elaborate.  what does this mean?  for me, it is an indication of the natural process of a womans growth through life.  she bleeds.  if only men could understand, even intuitively the intensity of the, dare i say, enforced, psycho-physiological genetically catalysed initiatory processes.  men us tools and stories, and have developed great skill and art in these realms, in order to produce the processes which naturally happen within a woman.  please, please, men, dont think that i believe all woman are initiates...the diagram doesnt work like that.  but by default we, as men, have to work in different ways.  back to the crone...she is, for me, an archetype representing the energies necessary for a woman to integrate as she grows.  it is not healthy, imho, to become an archetype, as humans were meant to be human, and not demi-gods.  but it is an imperative to integrate those archetypal energies that live within and manifest through us, because we are all and all of the Great Spirit of all things.  for me, the crone is most powerful, in that, it is that aspect of the archetypal feminine which is death, time and the eater of all things.  vagina dentata, so to speak.  have you seen older women who are this??  they are not entirely pleasant to be around and the power they wield consumes them as well...but have you also seen(or are you being?)a woman who has done to integrate the crone??  they seem to be those ladies who are older (post-menapausal even) women who are desired(sexually and otherwise) much more than young nubile women/girls.  
fallenangel- i have found for myself; yes, to an extent, that the energy contained within the semen can be "extracted".  but, in my experience, it is a paltry sum to that seed of life itself.  my perspective-mind, body and spirit are One.

Namaste,
    i couldnt resist! (pun #1).  the "juice" is the key!!(pun #2).  imho, in order for men to come(pun #3)close(pun #3cont.) to women in their(womens) ability to cultivate and manifest magickal energy, there absolutely (as much as there can be such a thing) has to be a conservation of "juice", or semen.  taoist yoga is essential for this.  for a women, sex is her birthright/magickal power and there is literally no end(pun #4) to her ability to perform(pun #4 cont.).  for a male with no cultivation of original essence and the ability to hold and transmute sexual fluid(semen); there is no hope....its kinda funny cause you could look at the demonization of women as temptress because the male just couldnt resist!(see pun #1!)  namaste

Namaste,
    My partner would like to thank you Nayru for reminding us all why it is, such much so today, such an imerperative that we continue to communicate to the younger generation in a spirit of openness and lovingness.  She wanted to say that you are a beautiful example of the realities that young people can, and do, embody important wisdoms.  Namaste

Namaste,
    thanks for the heartfelt post Nayru.  maybe it is because i am older, i have become a bit hardened to the levels of suffering that must occur within a childs psyche in order for those fantasmagorical realms of power to be taken as a reality.  or maybe it is because i have lived through a childhood of abuse and feelings of powerlessness that i am severe in my tolerance of arrogance and ignorance....my heart tells me a bit of both.  i agree with you Nayru, that age does not really matter.  But then again, i believe in reincarnation, so for me, the body of a 12 year old girl could contain the soul of a very high person from a previous incarnation....bit of a tangent but i hope i am understood.  problems, problems....my view has changed from outrage and severity, (which i expressed consciously and, to the best of my ability, with a judiciousness of emotive energy) that i have seen create a space for new energy blossom here.  LightLizard has blessed us here with his presence and knowledge, and others who don't usually check this area out have posted some insightful replies.  As for those kids that want to stay where they are, they do need space to be there, and I am happy to let them have the energy forum to post as much silliness as they want to []  But it has been decreed that the Energy Body Forum is for just that.  Its rough because i was personally excited to see people of all age groups working to fuse the knowledge of the ancients with the imagination of 21st century peoples.  With that said, it is my opinion that from this point forward, those of us who cherish body arts and energy work, as a community, take the necessary action and SET BOUNDARIES.  when it is seen that someone has posted information that is- misinformed, erroneous, plain lying, or anything that could be interpreted as having been taken from japanese anime shows(without the ability and willingness to EXTENSIVELY discuss and back up with SCIENTIFIC DATA) a technique or opinion regarding energy manipulation); they should be politely but firmly directed to the Energy Forum.  i am happy with Astral Pulse.  Very glad i found this space on the net and i will definitely take some time and energy to help fortify a little niche here for bodyworkers.  Namaste, shadowdancer

Namaste,
    its tremendously unfortunate that people could be this misled.  Shen energy has NOTHING to do with ANGER PER SE!!  Shen is the spirit-mind/consciousness!  The ONLY example i have seen given that could POSSIBLY be interpreted as an ACTUAL manifestation of shen, would be the examples of mothers lifiting cars from children, or other such acts of extreme psycho-physiological manifestations of unexplainable strength.  Please keep in mind that these manifestations DO IN FACT HAVE SCIENTIFIC BASIS and are easy to learn about.  Please don't explain something away with an abstract and undefined concept you very well picked up from a website that does not have the authority to give authoritative information about such subjects.  For the record, Qi Gong practicioners(especially in Buddhist or religious Qi Gong) use their yuan qi(primordial energy) from the lower tan tien, transmute that energy into zhen qi(usable, or actual qi), in addition to the cultivation of postnatal jing.  They then use the build up of qi and jing to nourish the shen(spirit-mind/consciousness)so that the spirit can survive death and eventually achieve enlightenment.  In Daoist schools of qi gong practice, they major difference is the focus upon the cultivation of the physical body as well, in hopes of achieving ACTUAL physical immortality.  These are old school beliefs and I don't know if any taoists today still hold them.  Now I AM going to be a bit patronizing here, SOOOOO, KIDS; if you don't know, ASK!  Someone will probably be able to tell you, or tell you where to start looking.  Also, I ENJOY BODY ARTS, the development of the physical body into an efficient vehicle for consciousness and the cultivation of energetic systems and systems theories...these ideas are dear to me.  But I really, really do my best to approach the exploration of these ideas in a thoughtful and patient manner, and do my best not to speak about what I don't know.  As far as I am concerned, the ignorant immature liars club is on the "ENERGY" forum.  If you want to post things like "No, you are all dummies and I KNOW I AM RIGHT blah blah blah"; please do so there.  I really enjoy the Astral Pulse forums and especially the Energy Body Development area, so I am going to harp on anyone who post BS.  thanks

Namaste,
    Nagual, from what i understand this is also known as non-local connectedness.  i think i have also read about experiments dealing with particle spin, and how, once two particles came into contact, if they were separated again, if one particle altered its spin, the other did so, mimicing its counterpart as if it was still in spacial contact with it.  its been a while, so i think that is right.

Namaste,
   
     

quote:Hey shadowdancer, If you do go faster than the speed of light and do travel backwards in time, how would you get back ?

            hmmm.....very hypothetical questions.....well, just for fun...i think that based on the tachyon theory, yes, if you did in fact increase the vibratory frequency of your body beyond that of the frequency of light, you could very possibly, hypothetically, move "backwards" within the time space continuum....how you would get back....you might never, because you would be trying to re-enter a linear time-space consciousness perspective, and because of the very nature of the flow of time itself, you are never able to be in the exact same place twice.  in addition, give the grounds within this hypothetical jaunt back in time, that your conscousness was able to retain cognitive coherency, that would futher complicate the idea of "getting back", because your consciousness would have to expand to be able to function in a mode of relating to things and other consciousnesses in a non-linear causality based framework.  hypothetically, you would not think of things as "past" or "future" and would not relate to the world around you in a temporal way, but in a purely spacial way.  "Tomorrow" would become "over there", in a sense.  hmmmm.......

Namaste,
     hey there!!  have no fear, not only have i, but my partner as well, have had this exact same thing happen to us!!  sounds like a spontaneous opening of your sushumna nadi!  spinal colum=kundalini!!  its really great to talk to someone with a similar experience of manifestation.  lessons i got- you are the center of the universe.  literally.  its the buddha consciousness that is so expansive that it literally includes within it all other human and non-human awarenesses.  you become aware of all as all becomes aware of you!!  the funny thing about this process is that this level of awareness can happen with many of the egoic "impurities" that come with being human.  so power trips, fear, all that stuff becomes magnified and manifested in the world around you.  in order(and this was my personal experience)to stay grounded in your being human(as opposed to an all-powerful being, or a worthless piece of demon shite), it is very very important to find some grounding meditations that resonate with you, in addition to checking the size and quality of your aura.  very important.  finding a physical practice(yoga, martial arts, qi gong, dance etc)that resonates with you is exceptional in its effect of aura balancing and chakra grounding.  one other thing.  you may or may not have noticed a peculiar "language" that people have started to speak around you...this is something important.  if you have an idea of what i speak of, pm me.  hope this helps, Namaste, shadowdancer

Namaste,
    i think the particles you are referring to nagual are called tachyons.  they are actually supposed to be faster than light therefore they move backwards through time.  sciectist have detected what they believe are radiation emissions from their existence.

Namaste,
    its out there...this "tech" you speak of.  hmmm...from what i understand it is the ability to increase and decrease the vibratory frequency of your(you being a theoretical practicioner)annamaya kosha, or physical sheath to the point of being able shift between this dimension(the time-space continuum)and the subtler realms of less dense matter(astral/4D).  the ability to "stop" time is a relative fallacy, in that, to change the flow of time is only to change the perception of the perciever of the flow of time.  for a human to be able to to alter time in a nominal fashion, there are two ways of doin this.  the first, mentioned above would be for the practicioner and that practioners percieving consciousness alone.  (this is not to say that in this case one could not theortically still affect changes within time-space...you would just have to be IN time-space to do so.  The second would be to try and effect other peoples perception of time-space flow.  if the first option would take lifetimes + to accomplish, this second is cartoon silly.  theoretically you would need to be a very good psychic because you would have to screw with their minds to change how they saw time to how you wanted them to........hmmmm....it is possible though.

Namaste,
    shen is roughly translated from pinyin to "spirit".  from what i understand it is cultivated in buddhist qi gong practice, not to increase strength of body, but strength of spirit.  and i feel, in this context, spirit would be considered to be the same thing as the three more subtle koshas(bodies), after the pranamaya kosha, or the energy body.  cultivating the shen is about moving more and more of one's consciousness into a real of pure spirit energy.  this is one of the major differences between taoist and buddhist philosophy.

Namaste,
      For me, it was only until i found a physical discipline that my magick moved from the skeletal realms of intellectualism into something with a heartbeat.

Namaste,
   interesting stuff!  first thing i would do if i wanted to know more about the phenomena would be to check the physical location to a mapping of geodetic 'ley lines'; or the major pathways of geo-electromagnetic/gravitational energetic currents flowing over the surface of the earth.  finding out if the area in which the phenomena took place and checking to see if there are any intersections of these ley lines in the area.  if so, you that may be the answer.  the phenomena, in your description, sounds like a relatively nominal(everyone could sense it) time/space field distortion.  when that happens, temporal and spacial relations to consciousness become very mutable.  In these spaces, time has been know to stop completely, slow down and even speed up.  what really happens is the change in the consciousness of the individual within the distorted field.  in older pagan cultures, specific places where these ley lines crossed and tended to produce these phenomena in individuals, people saw them as holy and special.  they could be said to be seen as "spaces in between spaces".  Hope this helps some