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Oh well, I can always wait until I'm over 100 years old to see the next one on this date.

lol

i know i'm gonna end up falling asleep but i put my alarm on, going to watch it and then go back to sleep to try and astral project to the moon ...ive been trying to make it up there, havent succeeded yet hopefully the eclipse will have some influence.

North and Central America should be able to view the entire show, which is expected to last 3 1/2 hours if skies are clear. Total eclipse begins at 11:41 p.m. PST Monday or 2:41 a.m. EST Tuesday. The totality phase - when the moon is entirely inside Earth's shadow - will last a little over an hour.

hey guys try not to miss the lunar eclipse heres an article from some site

Where Will the Eclipse be Visible?
The December 21 lunar eclipse will be visible to observers in North America and western South America. The winter constellations are well placed for viewing during totality so a number of bright stars can be used for magnitude comparisons. Observers along South America's east coast miss the eclipse's late stages because they occur after moonset.

Most of Europe and Africa experience moonset while the eclipse is in progress. Only northern Scandinavians can catch the entire event from Europe. The moon rises in the eclipse for observers in eastern Asia. The eclipse will not be visible from southern and eastern Africa, the Middle East or southern Asia. The moon will be situated in the constellation Taurus, close to the border with Gemini, and near the most northerly point in the moon's orbit at that time of the year.

When will the Eclipse Occur?
The eclipse's total phase lasts for 72 minutes. The penumbral eclipse ("P1") begins at 05:29:17 Universal Time (UT) and the partial eclipse ("U1") starts at 06:32:37 UT. The total eclipse ("U2") begins at 07:40:47 UT and the point of the greatest eclipse occurs at 08:16:57 UT. The moon lies near the zenith for observers in southern California and Baja Mexico at the instant of the greatest eclipse. The umbral magnitude peaks at 1.2561 as the moon's southern limb passes 2.8 arc minutes north of the shadow's central axis. Therefore, the moon's southern half will seem much darker than the northern half because it lies deeper in the umbra.

Since the moon samples a large range of umbral depths during totality, its appearance will change dramatically with time. The total eclipse ("U3") ends at 08:53:08 UT, followed by the end of the partial eclipse ("U4") at 10:01:20 UT. The penumbral eclipse ("P4") ends at 11:04:31 UT.

Eclipses in 2010
The eclipse that occurs on January 15, 2010, is not the only eclipse for the year. The full list of eclipses in 2010 includes:

An annular solar eclipse on January 15.
A partial lunar eclipse on June 26.
A total solar eclipse on July 11.
A total lunar eclipse on December 21.
timeanddate.com will provide information on more eclipses close to the time of their occurrence.

im from nyc but im in miami now....too bad i would of definitley looked forward to a group meet up....celest are you in miami still?

 :-DGREAT POSTING!!!! it was a pleasure to read.... all i can say is....wow!

 :-Dhey guys just thought id start this new thread "astral projecting and mainstream media". when i first found out about astral projecting back in september, i was very surprised that something this amazing wasnt mainstream, that everyone wasnt aware of it and also that ive never heard of it in my life! at all! or anybody i know for that matter. i was thinking how did i not see this on tv or in a movie once or read about it in a book or heard of it im sure there must be stuff out there about this, itleast hinting or insinuating astral projecting.

most of the information i got below is from wikipedia. anybody else that has heard something about astral projecting in a song or tv series or movie magazine etc. please include!!! how much is it really out there? how well is this phenomenom known by the average person? why isnt it mainstream? why arent governments using this and performing experiments with it. just curious!!!



+The Astral Plane is referred to in the songs Gonna See My Friend by Pearl Jam, Draw the Line by Aerosmith, Mary Jane by Megadeth, Stormrider by Iced Earth, Over the Mountain by Ozzy Osbourne, Dream Weaver by Gary Wright, New Invaders by Iris, Legend of a Mind by The Moody Blues and in rap artist Method Man's song Bring the Pain, which was later quoted by rap artist 2pac in the chorus of his song "No More Pain". The two songs Astral Plane and Astral Plane Pt Deux by Morphine Machine are specifically about it. "Astral Plane" is the name of song on the debut album of Jonathan Richman and The Modern Lovers and the term provided the title and informed the lyrics of Van Morrison's Astral Weeks. An early piece by the progressive rock band Yes was entitled "Astral Traveller". Experimental producer Flying Lotus released a track titled "Do the Astral Plane" on his album Cosmogramma.

+In the Marvel Universe, Doctor Strange has practiced astral projection since his inception in 1963. Illyana Rasputin [alias Magik] was able to astral project her own consciousness in New Mutants (Series 1) #15. Other mutants such as Professor X, Emma Frost, Jean Grey, and other powerful psychics, have access to the astral plane. Professor X imprisons the Shadow King on the astral plane. There are beings who live there such as Cassandra Nova.

+In the DC/Vertigo Universe, the Astral planes are used for travel and magic by a certain number of individuals such as Doctor Fate, Zatanna, and Doctor Occult, though use of astral projection is mostly illusionary.

+In the standard Dungeons & Dragons RPG planar cosmology, the Astral Plane is a dimension coexistent with all others (or all non-elemental planes in some editions of the game), used as a means of transportation between planes. The Astral Plane is the final level of the computer game NetHack. In Ironclaw some characters can use an astral body.

+The Apple II and PC video game Windwalker identifies the Astral Plane as a dimension through which a character called the Alchemist can summon demons, influence dreams and cause evil.

+The Astral plane is featured as a level in the video game X-Men Legends.

+The Astral plane is mentioned in a Radiohead song entitled "Pyramid Song," in which the lead singer, or lead character in the short narrative of the song, looks on a "Moon full of stars and astral cars." The lead singer, Thom Yorke, realizes this before he succumbs to death by the end of the song and reaches a new astral plane of existence.

+Method Man references Astral Plane in the song 'Bring the Pain'. "I came to bring the pain, hardcore to the brain, let's go inside my Astral Plane". Parts of the song were also used for the chorus of Tupac Shakur's 'No More Pain'.
Aerosmith references Astral Plane in the song 'Draw the Line'. "No dice honey, I'm living on the astral plane"
Fatso Jetson's 1999 album Flames for All contains a song named Vatos of the Astral Plane.

+The Astral plane as well as other planes of existence such as the etheric are featured prominently in the Deverry cycle of fantasy books by Katharine Kerr

+The Astral Plane is featured in the surreal 2000 comedy film The Nine Lives of Tomas Katz. It is a major part of the musical "The True Story of the Bridgewater Astral League" by The World/Inferno Friendship Society. It is featured in the television show Charmed, in which it is described as a realm of "spirits and energies" and a place where time does not progress.[9]

+The avant-garde heavy metal band maudlin of the Well created music, lyrics, and atmosphere that dealt predominantly with the subject of astral projection. The band tried to find music rather than compose it. This was done through practicing astral projection and lucid dreams, from which the band were purportedly able to "bring back" pre-existing music from the astral plane (as stated by Toby Driver in the liner notes included with the reissued Bath and Leaving Your Body Map).

+"Astral Planes" is the fourth addition to The Smashing Pumpkins 44-track album "Teargarden by Kaleidyscope."
In the game 'runescape', rune is referred to as a astral plane upon talking to death the first time.

+The video game Psychonauts revolves around a young psychic named Razputin, who uses a form of astral projection to enter the minds of several in-game characters, taking him into mental worlds based on their memories, imaginations, obsessions, and even manias.
Flying Lotus has an instrumental song on his album Cosmogramma entitled "Do The Astral Plane."

+just saw an episode of the simpsons last night called ""million dollar maybe" where homer at the end of the episode is in a hospital after having a car accident. he tries to make himself relax because his heartmonitor machine is beating too fast. he starts to calm down but relaxes himself to the point where his heartrate monitor machine goes dead(beeeeeeeeep)...he says wow look how peaceful and calm i look until he realizes he's floating outside his body and panicking starts swimming in the air trying to go back into his body.

+saw an episode of family guy where peter has a near death experience and finds himself out of body. name of the episode is "Death lives". in the episode, Death(the grim reaper) leaves and peter is left alone in the golf course, out of body, looking at his lifeless body on the floor. lol then he goes into his own pocket (the physical one on the floor) and steals his own wallet while nobodys looking.

  im 22 from new york city....im currently in miami/florida for college though....just found out for the first time in my life what astral projecting and obes are back in september 2010....have been reading/studying/training on it every day since! hoping to explore our universe through this phenomena. had a few experiences already but im really looking forward to more and mastering the skill

facebook: Francisco Aquino//email: cisco418@gmail.com

Bruce Moen writes a lot about the interpreter/perceiver and astral distortions in so much as what you perceive might not correlate with whats in your memory banks so it creates the nearest possible thing. Perhaps in this instance the numbers were not clear enough for you to see properly and so the interpreter in you presented what it thought it was looking at...an 8. Obvioulsy it was very close as 8 and 9 look very similar.

In future if you get this it might be worth covering a few bases and taking an error margin into account by buying a few extra lines.

yea i thought about that after seeing...like damn maybe i should of played 931 too not just 831 ....but then again how wouldnt i know that next time for example it wont be the 3 thats off or the 1 instead of the 8 for a 9........when i saw how close it was that came to mind too ive read what bruce wrote about that^^
but which number may it be next time?
.....who knows maybe if i keep trying ill see it clearer next time(?).

funny thing is that at first when i was staring at the number in the lucid dream it looked like 841 in the dream and when i tried to focus on it i saw it better it was 831....i was worried it could be one number off but i figured if it was itd be the 3, turned out to be the 8.

O and som1 asked if this guy really won the lottery. yes he was actually on the news he didnt make itup to write the book. if he was lying or if he didnt win the 7 times he claimed im sure the book wouldnt be selling and he wouldnt of been on the news.

also on what personalreality said psychics cant see the future....i agree,they may be able to see a glance but the future is never set in stone because we have a little something called free will. even if they saw it its not gauranteed that what they saw would be the actual future. or like personalreality said they might they might be able to give an impression of where your future is heading based on what they see now. ive actually visited psychics before and they are almost completely right about everything when they talk about who i am my feelings etc. and about the past too but none have ever told me the truth about the future or itleast what they told me would happen did not.

im gon keep trying just for the hell of it i mean i didnt win but it was close and although close doesnt count as anything i still find it kinda fun and interesting.....and especially now that we have other ppl trying too lol.....whoever wins post it!!!!!

cash3 doesnt pay much i was actually gon use it to pay off some of my school tuition, and go on a volunteer project in indonesia in march.... so its not like my motive was all that selfish...wasnt gon spend the money on getting drunk, partying and going on a shopping sprees and takin a few girls out.
i think the most you can win is like 5000 dollars depending on the amount of people that won that day etc your not gon strike rich like on the regular 7 number lotto.

also i didnt go to sleep trying to guess the lottery. i actually started to read the night before on some guy that won the lottery 7 times. he wrote a book, i was trying to see what method/technique he was using cus it said something about the sub conscious so i dont know if he's going to claim that he's using the "law of attraction" or if hes using obes lucid dreams or if he has some type of psychic skill but he claims he can teach you....could be bovine excrement but found it interesting which is prolly what caused me to dream about me starting at a number and something telling me to remember it for 2moro.

just felt like sharing this....dunno if its possible to use lucid dreams or OBEs to win the lotto but tried anyway.

in the lucid dream last night(12-12) i became aware of me staring at a number. the number was 831, i remember thinking ok dont forget this number its important for some reason.....so when i woke and still remembered the number i decided ok lets see if it comes out in the cash3 lottery since i dont understand what other reason this number could be important lemme try it for this(i dont really play lotto)...(florida midday monday 12-13-10) lol.....just looked up the number today the number that came out was 931....off by one number!!!!!!! so close.

We should start a history of AP/OBE thread and/or dedicated subforum.

i like...sounds like a good idea^^

 :wink:found this useful:

For your reference, the following outline will provide a sort of "road map" to the seven known planes:

The Physical Plane of Three Dimensions: This is the lowest of the seven planes, where we spend our physical lives. The three lower sub planes are: solids, liquids and gasses. The four higher densities are called the etheric planes, at which level faeries and nature spirits exist.

The Astral Plane of Four Dimensions: This is the place of out-of-body and near-death experiences, as well as where, according to some teachings, one waits for reincarnation. This is also where one finds the first Guardian Angels. It is also called the Emotional Plane. The energies on this plane compose feelings, desires and emotions. It is possible to travel through solid matter here, including the astral bodies' ability to pass through each other. The lower sub planes here can be considered the "hell" of the realm, where - as stated above - all the negative thought processes and entities which are created on the physical converge. The higher up we move through the Astral, the brighter and more pure the energies become (like the sludge on the bottom of a lake compared to the pure sunlight glinting off the surface).

The Mental Plane of Five Dimensions: The energies on this plane compose thought. Once one can successfully astral project, one may be able to mental project. On this level are true altruistic thoughts, free of desire or selfishness. Most angels and other spiritual beings are found here. The lower sub levels of this plane are made up of conscious thought while the higher sub levels are made up of abstract thought. The next higher level in the Mental Plane is what we think of as our soul.

The Buddhic Plane of Six Dimensions: Upon reaching this plane, we leave individualized personality. This is the plane of true spiritual insight (not to be confused with psychic feeling, which is an astral manifestation). An accessible echo of the Akashic Records is found here, and has its origination on the Atmic Plane.

The Atmic Plane of Seven Dimensions: This is the plane of consciousness and of life itself. Here we find the great spiritual masters, as well as anyone who has achieved true conscious enlightenment. The higher dragons of the world have also taken up residence here, to avoid being hunted by those on the astral and lower who seek to eliminate them. Through my travels, I have learned that Christ also resides on this plane, on the Mind's Idol in the Middle Atmic, with his Bride.

The Monadic Plane: This plane is beyond any type of matter, dimension or evolution as we know it. It is the plane of will where the ultimate divine spiritual sparks in all living things express themselves and evolve and create on the lower planes ("as above, so below") . When reaching the Monadic Plane, we leave all sense of space, time and self behind.

The Logoic Plane: This is the divine plane of God, the Source, or the One, which no living human has been known to reach because of its extremely high vibrational aspect. It is free of any limiting concept. This can be thought of as the plane in which nothing but pure, untapped energy exists with the ability to create life from itself. It is, in essence, Creation.

When attempting astral projection, it takes a bit of practice before one is able to avoid the lower planes

-END

I think I procrastinate too much.  I'll do it later. 

lmao

  good info on these links for HOW TO LUCID DREAM and CONVERT THEM INTO FULL ASTRAL PROJECTIONS (thx Xanth )

http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/11/how-to-have-lucid-dreams-by-summerlander/

http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/01/how-i-convert-a-lucid-dream-into-an-astral-projection/

Xplorer
Right, it just happens like that sometimes. Without warning, w/o trying, it just Happens!
Your latest OBE (#4) was really well recorded. You remembered a lot of details and that's good!

thx^ i adjusted my journal and added few things/sections/checklist that i saw you recording with your OBEs as well, that seem like further useful information to keep record of.

The person that you fought in the dream was most likely a dream figure/thought elemental that you created for the dream. Yet you realized it after becoming lucid and going OOB.

^^i believe your right about that part i was thinking the same thing

I am convinced that the fastest and easiest way to go out of body is through dreams. I have even written out a protocol to follow every night. It is still in the experimental stage. It goes 1) spend 10 minutes in OBE induction usually rope or cargo net 2) state affirmations for the night and list any dream incongruities to look for. 3) attempt to induce a W.I.L.D. and then, if in a lucid dream transform it into an OBE. So far no LDs/WILDs. I need to stay with that until it works.

Regards 
Grey

I like^^
ive been doing something similiar, usually ill try a method or phasing before going to  sleep, then affirmations for OBEs and gaining lucidity and I also have a list of things to look out for in dreams that may generate lucidity, things that are very common to pop up in most of my dreams anyway and to look out for, and I re read the list before going to sleep so I make sure they're fresh on my mind and I look out for them while dreaming.
I call these "Triggers" because they can trigger a lucid dream when I see these or recognize them/it in the dream= 1)FLYING, 2) childhood neighborhood(which I tend to end up in all the time when i dream), 3) lightswitch 4) running, 5)Augustus,my uncle -who passed away and I tend to dream of occasionally, last lucid dream it was this uncle who handed me mechanical wings so I could "fly" before becoming lucid-6)Carolina, 7) New York (moved to Florida recently so I shouldn't "be" there but dream of it a lot) >And of course once I find myself lucid next and final step is to attempt to convert to OBE =) !!!


im starting to think that it may be easier thru lucid dreaming as well, been having better luck and closer calls since I started concentrating on accomplishing OBEs thru lucid dreams. But I think its hard to have lucid dreams (itleast for me) if I don't record my regular dreams. Recording my regular dreams/lucid instead of just OBEs like I used to, has been showing me how close ive been getting unconsciously thru regular dreams and has been providing me with a list of recurring things I should pay attention to, to trigger lucidity, as well as forcing me to recall shadow memories on a regular basis which seems to be helping my recall ability.(i was the type that thinks he doesn't dream at all or rarely ever dreams, but I see that's not true I dream itleast 1 dream every single night just tend to forget right away after getting up, and im getting better at remembering details now instead of small bits and pieces/fragments).

ALSO I read something XANTH had on how to lucid dream and recognizing it etc. and doing constant "reality checks" even when awake. that helped a lot too. And I found out that Xanth has most of his OBEs thru Lucid dreams so I guess he found/finds it easier like this too, which is what got me started on attempting OBEs thru dreams.< =) Now I feel like I doubled my chances at astral projecting because im not just trying before going to bed and after waking up, now im still trying even while I sleep!

A desire to go OOB, including an unconscious desire, can eventually turn a lucid dream into an OBE, even when you least expect it.
Regards 
Grey

^you were right Grey, i wasnt expecting it that night at all, didnt even bother on putting the alarm to wake me @ 4 to start trying like ive done almost every single night cus i felt too tired. it just happened, without me expecting it to.

iamkuljuarenot---thanks for sharing sounds pretty similiar to my 2nd OBE too. i wonder if the guy was really another projector that was interesting. keep it up!!!

ok here's my latest OBE str8 from my journal entry

this was the most..."akward/strange" one yet because of the way it turned into an OBE. this is also my 1st successful OBE that was entered from a dream, ive never been able to go into an OBE through dream/lucid dream only by "phasing" using the "right after wake up" method, but oddly it felt very familiar.(not from recent/last OBE but from childhood)

SORRY! I know its very long but decided to just post in my whole journal entry instead of cutting things out or making it shorter, felt like including EVERYTHING in this specific one because of how different it is compared to previous one and It's the first OBE ive had since end of October after like 50+ failed attempts or close calls(reaching lucid, VS but not converting to OBE). =)
________________________________________________________________________
OBE (#4 since discovering A.P. Sept 15, 2010)
DECEMBER 07, 2010

-Detailed Descrition-
ok so as usual with any of my (regular)dreams details are a bit vague I lost some bits and pieces. In this dream I remember I was up my block of where I live on the street. I was looking down towards the corner/end of the block.... it was daytime in the dream and everything seemed normal. Then I remember hearing gun shots, like a good 4 shots itleast and I remember I went behind a parked car and took cover. I kept looking down the street to where the sound of the shots came from trying to figure out what was going on. The part about the shots and ducking behind the car I remember clearly but I don't remember what happened right after I came from behind the car. I think I had a confrontation with somebody and was trying to fight the person or w.e cus I swung at them and started chasing them and I remember clearly my right arm reaching out like I was swinging @ someone but more like I was swinging my arm out to catch or grab onto them.I guess whoever I was running after was still too ahead of me cus I reached out my arm as much as I could trying to reach(this is exactly where the changes started) and then I felt a very sudden what I can only describe as the "mindsplit" feeling.

That feeling when entering an obe where you feel like a duality type feeling like your in two places, a bit of sinking and felt out of body/completely conscious.....now all these feelings rushed thru/happened while I was still "running" and trying to catch someone and right as I was reaching out with my right arm as much as I could with a lot of intent/force to catch/reach whoever it was. .... my dream literally turned into lucid and then OBE in a matter of seconds, almost automatically and while it was all "happening" but its almost like I skipped the lucid part and went str8 to OBE.

I remember while getting the dual/mindsplit feeling, asking myself what this really familiar feeling was, and then remembering "oooh its an OBE!!!", feeling conscious and thinking "wow so all I have to do is swing my arms or spin around as hard as I can in the dream and itll turn it into/bring me Out of Body?? during the mindsplit/dual feeling(being in 2 places at once) after reaching out, I then  saw the person who I was swinging at or trying to catch while I was runnin n coming thru the wall and it was ME!, or itleast thas who I saw once the other person I was reaching for turned around but it was also me turning around watching me turn around ?get it?(really don't know how to explain this part but its part of the dual feeling or maybe the dual feeling made this happen dunno)

Right after I saw myself its like my dream body came into or towards my astral body (remember it was chasing it) and I guess the conversion was complete cus next I just remember standing there in my living room (only 1 of me now), in the same baby blue t-shirt I was wearing to bed (in the dream I was wearing a black longsleeve jacket outside) completely conscious. My first thought was "wait so... I;m awake now? Cus I know I was just dreaming and now im not dreaming anymore".

I quickly realized that although completely conscious its def OBE not real life because Im here in the living room instead of my bedroom in my bed. I got really happy! (especially since I hadn't had a conscious OBE only a few lucid dreams/flying dreams since my last exit end of Oct.). I started walking around (more like floating) in my living room but for some reason I kept collapsing and falling. I thought ok wtf why am I not moving good remember to move its all about thought and intent. I kept trying and I would get up everytime but unless I really stayed thinking get up or stayed focus on staying up id fall back down. When I would fall its like the room would get a bit blurry and a bit darker too. I thought ok "clarity now" and it got bright all o sudden like som1 just turned on the lightswitch. I said ok I have to leave my damn house and the RTZ remember that's the goal for next OBE.(ive yet to leave RTZ)

I tried like 2 more times to stay standing completely up/erect but failed so I decided to use as much intent and energy as I could to fly out thru the ceiling. I shot up quick with as much "intent" as I could and remember being able to get halfway thru the ceiling seeing the lightbulb/cieling fan by my head, half my body coming out the roof like I was going to keep flying str8 up and I even saw what looked like the night sky covered in stars looking really nice but then it turned into just complete blackness and I awoke in my bed! The OBE I could remember clearly just happening but I could barely remember the dream so I stayed still in my bed for like half hour remembering the dream and then repeating it to myself before moving and getting the notebook to write it down ....(ive woken up before from a dream, tried to recall and in my head say 2 sentences or keywords describing the dream to myself so I wont forget..... and then I move to look for a pen and its gone....damn shadow memories)....after about half hour of laying there making sure I downloaded everything I possibly could, especially since it led to an OBE I wanted as much detail as possible to record in my journal

->My O.B.E/dream Journal---detailed description ^^^
Time: went to sleep round 11pm, woke at 4:52am
Physical location: bedroom/asleep in bed
Dream/Astral location: up the block/living room,RTZ

->Keywords:
gunshots, running, up the block home street, hiding/ducked behind black car, dream and OBE running/playing out simultaneous during "conversion"for a few seconds, swinging, strong arm movement leading to feeling coming O.B, dual/mindsplit feeling,
seen self, from 2 viewpoints, dreamME looked at APme in living room w/babyblue shirt turning around to face dreamME, APme saw dreamME comin thru the wall with arm out wearing black leather jacket reaching.swinging arms toward APme, then only APme left, living room, recognized consciousness, am I awake? is this OBE? Yes it is love/miss this feeling! lights getting brighter then lower then brighter then lower, said "clarity now", lights stayed on, not gradually but instant like turning on switch, tried moving round kept going low to ground like falling/stumbling, kept stand up completely but would go down again, did this few times, thought must leave RTZ! shoot thru ceiling, got glimpse of sky w. then pitch black then...few seconds later...AWAKE in Bed

Dream? yes
Lucid? yes
OBE? yes
Accomplished AP?how?: Not deliberate, thru dream, felt confused but quickly recognized the familiar feeling, radical movement with arms, swinging/reaching out action caused coming out of body/mindsplit feeling
Meditated? no
Affirmations? Yes few earlier in the day and right before going to bed
based on having no fear and having OBE awake or thru dream, strong intent
Health/energy? Very tired before bed
Goal in mind? To leave the RTZ!!!
Food? Yes...Lunchable's snack b4 bed(ham n cheese crackers w. kiwi strawberry juice/butterfinger candy bar)
Sleep position? On my back
Work/off? Worked during the day but was off the following day after OBE.*

-*ive noticed that my 3 of my 4 OBEs and some of the lucid dreams have occurred on nights before im off, ?maybe cus Im in a better mood and feel like I will get enough sleep, or feel like i wont need too much energy next day or have to wake up early/tired cus of work.??

End result/progress: Was very happy although short and not deliberate OBE still an OBE at that, which brings me a step closer to mastering skill. Too excited to go back to sleep woke @ 5 instead of 7....Maybe not expecting things to happen like I can overdo sometimes may of helped. Have strong intent for it but at the same time don't expect it to happen, just let it. Figured out and will try again swinging or spinning or flying tends to make me lucid or strong fast movements in dream. last time I stayed lucid for a while after putting on mechanical wings and flying, but woke up before converting, this time gaining lucidity as it converts to OBE.

additional info---Interesting note=***I used to have falling dreams and running/chasing dreams like this all the time when I was a kid, either in church as I fell asleep or right before going to sleep, or on roadtrips and it was ALL the time, for me it felt normal having these to run and trip or fall in a dream before going to sleep for good, to me it was a sign that I was just falling asleep and wasn't aware of it cus usually when I woke it'd be with a jump like I fell and landed in my body and id usually feel surprised of where I woke(in my bed,church etc.). instead of being at the location where I was at in the dream. One time I remember I was at church and the chair almost fell back cus of the way I moved when I woke and my cousin who was next to me said what the heck happened were you having a nightmare? Felt embarrassed cus everyone was looking at me(in the dream I was running in my house and jumped over a chair which I failed to pass over completely and one of my feet tripped over it and I fell quickly and hard because I was running fast picking up speed to jump it, woke up breathing hard and surprised). This 12-7 dream/obe reminded me A LOT of my childhood "presleep" falling dreams. Ive learned that these are def related to OBEs and now im starting to see the link between them, and also how the OBE mindsplit/dual/out of body feeling felt familiar even from the first time of having experienced it back in my first exit last week of sept., but the way I entered this one str8 thru the dream it felt even more familiar then entering OBE state thru phasing++ Look up and read on children and astral projecting, falling dreams etc. tomorrow.

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this is definitley an Out Of Body Experience....im surprised you dunno that considering ur on this site and the amount of years its been happening to you

Have tried to OBE in the past month almost everyday with no success since my last OBE/exit, but here's a semi-Lucid Dream from 2 days ago that i was hoping would turn into an OBE. BUT for some reason when i realized i may be able to convert it into an OBE, i woke up<-maybe cus i thought of my physical body in bed and maybe intenting "seperation" or w.e?

((cant remember too many details and exactly what was happening before I became lucid but my memories after becoming lucid were much clearer. So I separated it into 2 parts: prelucid and lucid))

DESCRIPTION:
in the dream
(PRE-lucid):
i was with my cousin i dun remember exactly what it was we were doing(?). we kept trying something but couldnt figure it out or it wouldnt work. then my uncle who passed away almost 2 years ago, came and said to stop what we were doing and that he'd be right back. he seemed kind of mean when he said it but i ignored him as we left.(he was sometimes mean when he was alive, i remember thinking this when I was younger, but usually it was a front for him just trying to do something nice or advice you on something or it was for your own good.)
me and my cousin kept trying w/e it was we were trying anyway but with no success. Then a little while later he came back carrying something covered in white bag or cloth......he also said something to us but I cant remember what it was as he gave it to us. (dammit)

+ LUCID: when my uncle came back he showed me some wooden things he was carrying...then he gave it to me, wasnt 100% sure what it was at first but after i put it on i was more conscious and started noticing details (which ive noticed is something i never do in regular dreams, like the place and surroundings usually I only focus on the person and whats happening/go with the flow) I started noticing his clothes(he was in the army long time ago and he was dressed in military pants and boots) and also became aware of my thoughts at that moment and my surroundings in detail...and started realizing I was becoming "lucid".

The wooden things he handed me which I was now wearing and realized they were Wooden Wings, and they were "mechanical". I was wearing it like a bookbag and they were actually "flapping" for lack of a better word, and I was flying/floating with him. I realized that what I must have been trying over and over with my cousin, before I came Lucid, but with no success, was flying, since he had came back to "help". I looked around at where I was and it looked like "watchtower" from smallville if any of you watch that show. It had an old look to it looked wooden built or sumthin but a place for either inventions or research and missions or maybe a real watchtower not sure there was a big round window at the top and a very high ceiling. The wings reminded me of something Leonardo davinci made a drawing of as potential wings/invention for man to fly. So as im floating im realizing that im lucid and that these are things I have told myself to look out for in dreams(floating/flying) and if it were to happen to remember to use it and convert it to an OBE. I smiled cus im still floating in the air and I think ok so ill convert it to a OBE since im already flying...(I also smiled at what my mind had created->wooden wings to AP lol) if im just dreaming that means that im here but really im still in my bed my body is still there and I can possibly use this flying to OBE! When I realized this I woke up in my bed....errrrrrrrrrrr>:[   !

cool! thx for posting....damn #98 ur so lucky lol

"Notes. Time was about 9:00 AM. Duration was 10 to 15 minutes. I lay on my right side. Location was a familiar physical Locale I. Deliberate,  Confused (due to initial lack of sight),  Flight,  Floated,  Sleep Paralysis,  Meditation (before),  Affirmations (before), Pranayama (before). After reintegration I was pleased at being able to deliberately go out of body yet was very unsatisfied with the quality and duration of the OBE.
Thanx for reading it. "


^^^i like this setup and info your recording for your notes or if its for ur obe journal...gonna revise my own and start recording some of that info for mine+would be useful to keep track of that information as well.

yea def, i get what your saying i just want a sort of slight preview of what the rest of the astral world/planes can offer...ive yet to leave the RTZ or meet entities :/

sometimes when im feelin like givin up on trying to have further OBE's and exits, reading someones story makes me almost jealous and i want to experience simliar things for myself and it pushes me to keep trying 

and definitley ill send u a message with my IM, cant wait to hear'em!!!!!

this is what really motivates me to keep trying and trying....i love reading people's out of body experiences. most of the new ones i find or look up are usually peoples first or second OBE. however as much as i enjoy reading these as i am a beginner myself, the novices and professional Astral Projecters are the onse with the most amazing and intriguing adventures/stories...prolly cus theyre not so confused when they AP, they understand whats going on better and they can do it more often as well as control it better. i spend alot of times searching for good stories/experiencs so i decided to put this forum together so that ppl can post their stories on one POSTing. also cus im lazy lol

anyway im really interested in reading your stories....the weirder the better
i'd love to hear about the places you've visited and the people you've met
as well as things youve learned from the experience itself or maybe a guide
teaching and guiding you. 


thanks for posting!!!

I'm scared. I can't stop projecting. It's become part of my sleep now..

I WISH I HAD YOUR PROBLEM...havent been able to project in over a month now :/