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i doser, binaural beats, and all that excrement is just bovine excrement. can't work

and if did , it's only placebo

galantamine the only one works

[@blis]

thanks guys,

@blis       thank you, we can try do that , Isent you a PM / and email to your googlemail.
@Ryan_    i love that proverb, and I am already practicing and training , and that will not stop me.
@volgerie   I tried calling angels. but didn't work.


and we can call this an experiment too. and learning something new!

Hello,

I beleive that a good projector can find my physical body or etheric one, and pull me out or just tell me that i'm dreaming !

so if any one can help me I'll appreciate it.

it won't take you more than 10 seconds !!

thanks guys;

that means, Phasing is a thechnique that leads to AP,

so we can APing, via Lucid dreams, via Wilds, and via phasing ?

phasing is (( meditation of visualizing yourself in another place ))  ??

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hello,

I see many times in that foum; phasing , the phase..

What's the difference between AP and PHASING !

:p

Simo nice eexperience but this seems like a lucid dream or AP and not OBE?

anyway which technique do you use to OBE?

congrats again

controlling toughts is hard

and i need to prolong the LD/OBE too

thanks guys,

Ryan yes, you mean that AP is just in the same plane as LD ( LDs not in the mind/subc)

so it's just a matter of moving the dream-body from the AP plane to the Physical plane !!

that was my theory too, but when experienced LDs i couldn't move it to my room , i tried that

Hello,

Yesterday I Woke up after 3:30H of sleep, go to bathroom, take 2 pills of galantamine.

and back to bed, I couldn't back to sleep, I stayed awake and roll over my body, about

1H30. I got some vivid imaginations, and moved my body for the last time, after seconds i tried to move again, but I couldn't , I knew I was in Sleep Paralysis. so i tried to move hardly ( to separate my dream-astral-body from my physiscal one ) and that's it, I started to get out of my body and seeing my physical one still sleeping, ( transition )
i didn't heard the Buzzing loud sounds, insteed , I heard voices that freaked me out ( Like 2 entities whishpering about me with a foreighn language )

And finally found myself in a dream scene , but i couldn't stand-up for a while like if I was very tired .. and the dream began: Stones, and a lake far away a little, I toutched the stones, and taste it ( to stabilize the dream ) and ran to the lake it was cold , fun, and very realistic.

so the dream fade away. it lasts about ( 1 - 3 Minutes ) I think.

I tought that wild is the same as OBE but it's not why?

I felt the transition and separation, is that was a lucid dream only or what?

I want to OBE in real time zone