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hey, have you ever tried while lucid dreaming to transfer into another body and then from that body make of the dream a ball and put it in your pocket, then try to AP, remember that withing that ball you are dreaming, but in the body that you transferred into is not you, you are still dreaming, and the body that you created is just a vessel that is APing while you are in the dream which is in your pocket <.<!

i had the same problem, i projected from a LD for about 5-6 seconds

usually gargoyles are messagers or guardians of something or someone.

it would have been interesting if you would had got into his apartment 

isnt that Narnia? <.<!

i also noticed another thing while pronouncing the mantra in my mind, that there was another voice pronouncing the mantra too in my head wtf mmh, i guess that was a good encouragement to keep pronouncing it.

update:

i have been pretending that im dreaming during day time, and awake during the dream:

so last night when i went to bed, i dreamed in 1st person (no common to happen in my dreams)

but in the last dream i had that was what kind of interested me: i was in 1st person too, and i could use my mind to control gravity a bit (but i didnt noticed that i was dreaming xp), at the end of the dream [fastfoward |>|>]  there was some kind of actor or something with tons of body guards, and suddenly they detected a 'bomb' with some "metal detectors" and then they found out that the 'bomb' was in my house, i let one of the body guards inside of my house, then i heard the voice of my aunt (how i saw earlier leaving the house to go to work) and then the body guard left, and i was alone with my aunt, she was in the bathroom, everything was dark, then when i approached into the bathroom i had a flash of something that looks like a spider (just part of the head and one hairy leg) and then my "aunt" said "you know that i dont work" (its true she doesnt anymore, but i didnt remember that in the dream) then i saw that she had something on her hand, she was in towels, and so do i (out of nowhere i was) i took a knife because i doubted that she was my aunt, then she tried to confused me "maybe i am you aunt, may be im not, or maybe this is her body, would you hurt it?" and those words make me hesitate on attacking, then we were struggling and fell into a big buckle of water and i was trying to drown her until she may lose conscious, but then she grabbed my knife and we were struggling to see who would stay with it, and i was trying really hard but she had some strength Dx<,, then i kind of woke up, and did not open my eyes, just like in that other dream were the "asian girl was taking pics infront of the car in flames" i still had the pic of the last scene in my eyes, i was trying to see if i could go back or project from there "as a form of lucid dream" but then i noticed that i was awake.

before i had that last dream i was practicing the mantra Faraon (again) while falling asleep (i sleep on my stomach) because i may be lucky and wake up vibrating or AP after fall asleep while saying it ( i got lucky a couple of hours before that dream http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/take_the_vibrations_to_the_knee_gt_gt-t36020.0.html)  but when i started gaining the feeling of my body again, i noticed that my legs where crossed and my right hand was across my chest <.<! somehow, so i was not feeling to comfortable.

in summary, i think that thinking that im dreaming while awake, and awake while dreaming is cooler because the view first person and is more possible that i may do a reality check from that view.

OMGoddess, you saw a gargoyle   man, i always wanted one ( i still want one :\ )

is your neighbor pagan, or has something to do with the 'ancient gods of summer and Babylonia'? <.<!

did you noticed something weird (no so common in other ppl's houses) in his apartment on the physical objects, probably over a table or on the walls?

i know, but yesterday i noticed that my feet got kind of paralyze or heavy when they started vibrating for a while, so i was wondering... partially or totally.

personalreality when you say

which should induce "separation" (though you won't experience traditional separation necessarily.)

what do you mean by traditional separation? (i kind of have an idea but i wan to confirm it)

yeah, i have been doing good at phasing, i can get to F21 with no problem.

but this time i just wanted to do what i did the first time.

Next time im gonna combine Phasing with the mantra.

but i was not thinking about APing when i went to bed, i just kept repeating it if i fall asleep i make be lucky and AP while falling asleep repeating the mantra. Next time im going to try to be laying on my back.

hello,

so i was thinking about going back to when i first felt the AP vibrations, to do what i was doing before i felt the vibrations... using the mantra Faraon 7_7...

(yes, i know that the mantras just keep your mind focus, nothing else about it, but hey it worked back then, for some reason)

i lay down on the floor with my head to the north (because my bed points to the west/east) then for 40 minutes i was repeating Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooon, nothing happened, so i decided to get up and go to bed to sleep...

then laying down on my bed, laying on my stomach i kept repeating the mantra Faraon for a while until i started noticing that my feet got heavy, i couldnt almost feel them then i started noticing the they were vibrating but not too strong, and not too weak (but more weak than strong)(but those vibrations were not as strong as i felt them the first time i felt the ap vibrations), for a second i thought that that vibration was actually that some of my veins where been block since i had part of my feet on the edge of the bed, but then i thought that since i was feeling them heavy they were actually AP vibrations, so then i tried to increase the vibrations with my will but nothing happened, then i try to extend them through my legs but i just got them to the knee.

After a while trying to extend them, since they couldnt pass my knees then i just stopped and got out of bed.

the end.

im just going to try later, again.

i have been wondering: before you start vibrating is you body totally paralyze or partially paralyze?

i have experience it partially paralyze, but im just wondering if your bodies are totally paralyze 

i wanted to buy the googles to LD, but the price scared me D:> even though you are right, making a investment now pays in the long run of the biz.

i have no fear for whats in the other side, but i may be lacking on will and focus :\

i think that by practicing phasing consciously more often my body goes into F21 faster and i dont even notices it until i lose awareness of my physical body for a moment while daydreaming or focusing on something and suddenly im on F21 and then i havent go any further ;_;

lol, usually my arms are the first, but i can also do it at will, and move other parts of my body out,... last night i imagine that my astral head was getting out of my body and i kind of felt it moving out through my physical head, (usually some reason my head always gets stock when im feeling lifting up, but i found out tht i was tension that was keeping the feeling of lifting away from my head).

yay, take me flying on your back  ,, yeah, i have alway wanted somebody to wake me up in the astral lol

yeah, i just noticed that i can get into F21 faster than before xDD just a few voices, and images, probably 1 mini dream and the im there in f21 when i snap out of them, or when im imagine that im out of my body somewhere and i snap out of it.

last night i was playing with my astral arm, moving it in and out of the body xDDD it was making my almost laugh because it tickles a bit, but i think that i felt asleep while trying to AP (which is good cuz i usually dont fall asleep, beside i was tire) but i didnt like the dreams i had, besides there have been premonitions getting in the middle of my dreams 7_7 which are not helping alot with the LDs.

i have been working on my dreams lately, trying to have LDs and i have been dreaming interesting stuff.

xDD my bro has AP before unconsciously when they want him to do something some them, but im not so lucky- even if my body is asleep i cant feel vibrations, unless i command them or something, all i can feel is that im being pull out of my body while im imagine that im outside, or feel my astral arms  getting out of my body when im focusing on one point(i was playing with them last night moving them in and out my physical body xDDD it tickles).

but i have notices that now i pass through phasing like nothing until i get to the 3d blackness, for example: some times i get into a mini dream while phasing and then snap out of the mini dream and found myself in this 3d blackness, or if im focusing out side of my body imagining that im somewhere when i loose my awareness of where i "am" in my imagination sometimes i also find myself in the 3d blackness, even though i just hear some voices, one or two, and then see things in the blackness but not as many as before when i started practicing phasing a couple of days ago.

yeah, lately attacks are becoming more and more aggressive lol. no, the sp or the message did not put him in a shock state, he was being literally being shock.

... maybe, may not be, may be just a nightmare or may be something else. Just keep an eye on messages, no need to panic

maybe with time you may understand what you saw.

for example: i have been trying to have LDs but the other day i saw something in one of my dreams that i did not understand and it should had triggered a reality check but today i was told something that made sense of what i saw in the dream that it was not suppose to be there.

i have seen googles that are designed for LDs <.<! but those googles are too expensive :\

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lol, writting on the walls its becoming a classic. it happened the same to one of my brothers but it was a threatening message after he woke up found himself in "natural" sleep paralysis that was shocking him until the message was completely written on the wall, the he was able to get up. <.<!

energy body as energy body, or energy body as AP vibrations?

energy body as energy body = just focus your attention on the surrounding of body, start with you arm, focus your attention on the surrounding of your skin.

you may also adsorb energy by visualizing white-gold energy that is surrounding you and then is absolved by your body and makes your aura stronger, brighter and bigger. Synch your breathing with the visualization: when you breath in visualize that while gold energy surrounding you enter by every pore of you body, Then hold your breath for a couple of second and visualize that the white gold energy flows inside your body, then breath out and visualize that your aura grows bigger, and it shines like a sun. Do that about 20 to 30 breath in beginning.

and keep feeling the surrounding of your body, until you can feel something that is not suppose to be felt  in the room that you are in, or may feel static or mini vibrations

veil?, what veil?

thats 'normal' if you are energy sensible. They are not your emotions/feelings they are somebody's else that is maybe "dead" or "alive". Never take them as yours, must know what are your thoughts so you dont get confuse.

ok.