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I don't know blueflame well enough to even guess what it was they saw.  Truthfully, for all I know, blueflame could be schitzophrenic, as I'm sure one or two people in this entire forum are.  If it were anything, I'd say it was exactly what blueflame says it is.

quote:Originally posted by Risu no Kairu

Glad to hear moving through objects is easy for you. I'm still having trouble.

I think the key to passing through objects is to realize that the object you're passing through isn't really there.  Either that, or think of the object as being water.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10708
This is mine, boys a girls.

I remember I did have a dream one time that I was a dog.  This wasn't just your "normal" dream.  Everything was so weird.  Sounds were so loud, and things were interpreted a lot differently from my prospective.  I remember my owner was a jerk and yelled at me for everything.  I was a puppy in the dream, so I was quite small.
This was either "just a dream" or my soul remembering something.

quote:Originally posted by Hyperblu

yea.. how about those tech.s i curious too

anyway while i was sitting here and  read  this text i was thinking about ufos

what i belive.. (im not usre and i have no prove) is that UFO could be "us" i the future.. if you look like how  ppl have been changed over these miljons years (ive no idea how  long tima  human been have existed on earth) but if you think.. first we looked like apes and now we are all diffirent.
what i belive or more what i think  if you look at theirs plates how do they move that thing.. it could be that "we" travel back in time from future and we know quite much about our energy and other energy fields.
ive been reading  few storys about UFO and even movies  use this stuff...
if this plate is near something  that works on electricity it will be turned off couse this enery field on the plate disturbs other energy fields or something like that..
i think that how that thing can move so fast.. and make so sudden curves while flying.
but as i said.. its just was i think.. i thought a little about that and thought i share my thougths.

so it could be possible (and not) that  UFO is "us" in the future. and  "we" know much much more than we do right now.

anyways..  would be fun to hear others thoughts..

Take care

I'm glad to see that someone thought up the same theory as I did.
From time to time, I've also thought about time travel.  I'd think to myself " well, if it were even possible, wouldn't someone have come back from the future by now to tell us in this era? ".
After this, I thought " well, maybe they have all along and we just can't see them? "

Then BAM, it hit me.  Maybe UFOs are not UFOs, but instead, human beings from the future that just don't let us see them for any reasons whatsoever, for that could knock the timeline off balance, and change history.

Think, for example, what if one of these UFOs stopped to let us see what was inside, and they explained what they were doing?  That would cause a major Paradox in the timeline.  Instead, they just watch from afar.
They don't care if maybe 1 billion people have witnessed them flying around.  Those 1 billion people have no idea that what they are seeing are humans from the future.  They just think that it's a bunch of aliens flying around.

I love Hypnagogic visions.  They're so interesting.  It's as if someone is thinking for you.  You think of things that you wouldn't normally think of.  Why is it like that?

stone, why did you post the same message twice?
and please, don't hassle me.  I have read the NEW techs. and it didn't get through to me enough to tell me to " relax my legs and feel the energy ", and even if it did say those exact words, I didn't understand that it meant THAT.
So anyway, I know that Telekinesis doesn't take body movement, but it does take energy, and I just figured that channeling energy through the body would help, that's all.
I suppose I'm wrong?
Well, since you don't use your body, find me the BEST site to explain Telekinesis, please?

[OBEs]

quote:It is more like how it feels when you restore circulation after your legs have fallen asleep; which is fairly uncomfortable but not exactly painful.

Look at my VERY first post on this thread, and compare what I said to this.  I somehow knew it was some type of energy movement.  I could increase this energy flow through my legs until my whole body jolted as if being shocked.  I notice when I try to push the energy, my neck twitches, making my head jerk a little, and my arms jolt a tad bit.  I knew it wasn't just dense relaxation.  It's ENERGY movement.  You know how you can wiggle your ears, but you don't know how exactly?  It's sort of a forgeign movement of the body.  You don't know how you do it, but you can do it on command whenever you want.  That's what this energy flow is like for me.  Just imagine if I could get my arms to do this as well as my legs, and my whole body!  Making psi balls, telekinesis, and OBEs would be so much easier.  I haven't been able to create a successful psi ball, or successfully move small objects with telekinesis, but if I do this, I'll be able to.
[:O]

Vibrating...that's it!
The feeling that I tried to describe in the first post is like if you grab the handles of a lawnmower ( push mower, not ride mower ) and squeeze as hard as you can.  It's like a vibrating, tickling feeling the core of my bones.
BTW, I can't get it to do it anywhere but my legs.  I used to be able to do it with my arms but I can't do that anymore.
I used to be able to do it all over my body.
I bet if I could do it all over my body, for about 30 seconds straight, that would trigger an instant OBE.  Crazy stuff...we need to keep this thread going til' we find someone who can do it like thatj ( or do this with their whole body anyway )

quote:Originally posted by Sam

There could be a simple physical explaination for this.

When a candle burns the wick melts the wax and vaporises the molten wax into a flammable gas.  When the wick is burning the gas stays close to the source of ignition (the wick).  However when you extinguish the flame the hot wax will continue to emit some gas until it cools.  This gas would rise as it is less dense than the surrounding air and collect near the lid as there is nowhere for it to escape.  For the gas to reignite there needs to be an ignition source and its possible that the inside of the wick was still hot and the embers smouldered away to the outside of the wick where they contacted the gas and, well, vwoosh.

Thats pretty much the physical explaination.

*HEE haw!*...I'm a jackass.

hey Acid, I don't know if you realize this or not, but you are seriously pushing it.  The comment you just made has just about every member that read your post a little "steamed" I'm sure.
I'm fine with it...becaue it's what you believe, but I wouldn't be expecting a lot of friends doing things like that.

Good luck getting replies in this thread.
You're 2 out of 20 so far.

quote:Originally posted by acidmax120

quote:Originally posted by Makoto

"If there were any karma it has been channeled away from me. I am fully protected"

Howdja manage that.

Simply contact the source.

OOOOkay...this thread has taken a doosie.  This kid should be called Magneto or something, because he's developing this evil sound...

Telekinesis...I don't even understand the base for that.
I stare at a small object, and I try to "feel" it out, and make it move.
Nothing happens.
How do YOU do it, dIaBoLiX?
What are the EXACT, unrefined thoughts that pass through your mind?

quote:Originally posted by twstedrage

Life_afterdeath I find it hard to reach a good meditation level too, is your mind always clouded with thoughts that are hard to get out? Also when I try to meditate and can actually clear my mind something will pop in to disturb me weither it is an image or thought from someone else, or a vision of something to come. Do you have problems like that? thanks,

Robert

Well Robert, I have that problem a lot.
You have a mind like me.  One that never, ever stops working.
It's a curse.  Maybe it's A.D.D?

If I knew what the hell I was I'd surely tell you.
I very well could be one of those otherkin, but I'm not sure which one.
Describe what a fey is and I'll tell you.

[I'd respect him more if he admitted that he was wrong rather than try to say that what he did to those people was fair or that they deserved it.]

quote:Originally posted by EnderWiggin

I've already explained to him why I believe what he has done is evil, and he denies it. I told him in my first reply that I didn't mean any offense by it, but then he claimed I didn't know what I was talking about. so I felt it necessary to explain myself further. What I do not understand is on what he bases his beliefs. It certainly doesn't sound like reality to me. I do not recall him citing instances that explain or "justify" his actions.

I appreciate your efforts to keep things fair and balanced, but I do not understand why you defend this person, as they have not shown any regret for their actions. I'd respect him more if he admitted that he was wrong rather than try to say that what he did to those people was fair or that they deserved it.

He's got his own wars, and in his own way, he's sure they deserved it.
Like I said before, Karma will give him his dose.  That's all I'm saying in this thread.

I read this thing, and the thing that frustrates me the most is the fact that I have trouble relaxing, and watching the little " movie " in my head.  When I lay down, this is usually what happens.

1.I see black.  I have a little trouble keeping my eyes from moving but it's okay.  I feel relaxed, and I begin to notice my limbs less and less.

2.As I think I'm beginning to near the "hypnogogic" state ( where dumb thoughts and playful imagry hits ), little itches happen hear and there on my face, to where I have to move my hand out of total relaxation and scratch the itch.

3.If I am in the hypnogogic state, I lay there, and if I concentrate too much on trying to have an OBE, I never fall asleep.  If I care to less about having an OBE, zzzzzzzz....whwhwwahat!?  I fall asleep!

4.I wake up the next morning, realizing I never reached the vibrational state, and I say "son of a gun, maybe I'll get em' tomorrow, eh tiger?" even though it's just me in the room.

I've been trying forever, while just falling asleep simply every single night I try.
Is it possible I'm just too tired?  Could my etheric body be low on fuel?  Do I need to stop by the local BP station and fill er' up?
I've had OBE's before, but I always black out.  Sometimes I enter my body again but most of the time I black out and lose awareness of where I am.  Then I wake up the next morning, thinking " at least I made it there...but why couldn't I have stayed in it? "

I've only been trying to OBE within this month, and I've done it a number of 3 times.  It came naturally to me one night, and I've been doing trying it ever since, but I've only been successful 3 out of 20 times.

hardy har ladies and gents.  What the crap am I doing wrong?

That's what I'm saying!
I was reading this, thinking it was a new topic.
Thoughts going through my mind :

WHAT? The CIA executed Saddam hussien on USA turf?!

Yeah...but as the later posts show, Saddam is STILL alive.

Kakkarot, I'm sure he gets the point by now.
He understands that he did wrong.  Though he may do it again, all that needs to be said has been said.  It's not may say, but I believe he's been scolded enough.  He probobly doesn't feel too good about it anymore, and he probobly feels like a lesser person because of what you and Ender have said.  He's gotten his verbal "spanking" I'd say.
I don't mean to sound like a grandma-bear or anything, I just know that he's feeling it now.  You may keep on, but I just wish you and Ender would lay off of him for now.
( man I hate the grandma-bear feeling )

Guys, I'm not choosing sides here, but lay off of him a little will you?  I think he's learned his lesson.  If Karma it is, then Karma it will be.  He'll get what he'll get.  Leave the combat to the Karma, that's all.
I just hate to see this place turn into a big arguement.  I know what it's like to go at it me vs. everyone else.  That's probobly about how he feels right now.  You guys have some good points, but who cares.
Being right isn't THAT important.  Just let it go, for me, please?
Just drop it like a bad habit.  Let this thread collect dust.

quote:Originally posted by 1Zenryoku

Here is a way to test it put your hands togeter like you are praying for 30 secs. then pull them apart and rleax a little now try to feel your hands really put some effort in it. feel the air  the temp. the humididty feel all of it cup you hands a little and you should feel a little pressure.
Remember if you don't beleif no results

I did that, and I got in a horse-stance ( legs far apart ) and I cupped my hands in a yin-yang position ( left over right ) and I used some of the NEW energy circulation methods w/ tactile imaging, then pictured the energy swirling up my arms, and making a ball inbetween my hands.
Though I did feel a little bit of pressure on my wrists, as if they were being touched, I didn't feel a whole lot of heat energy though.

quote:Originally posted by Jon_88

Seem to me that only problems are posted . I never once seen a post ended with "im cured " or a new post saying "after posting last(year ,month etc) my sickness have deminished/gone completly and i feel fine".

It leads me to think either people isnt cured and give up faith(or succumb to illness). Or they are cured but doesnt give it a second thought.

So is there someone whos been sick and cured after posting here and if so do you think it was because of healing sent , or did you find another healing you would like give more credit for your recovery?

Good points.  Never thought of it that way.
I don't heal, nor have I recieved any healing, or even requested any.
It is pretty interesting that nobody has posted back about being healed.
Another interesting thing is how there were 9 rude readers who didn't reply to this, and I'm the only one who replied.

I personally don't think he's evil, I just think he's got a meanstreak like me.  Of course I wouldn't cause car wrecks or bruised ribs, but I would use psychic power only if I were being mugged or if a group ganged up on me just to cause me pain.
Hell, I can't even channel any psychic power.  I remember my reason for getting into any type of Metaphysics was to do so...but yeah.
I've gone nowhere with that.

Emphatic experience...if only I knew what that was.  I've never heard of it before.  Explain? ( yeah right )