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Hey everybody. Oil and big business is a big part in the decison in war, as well as WMD's. But please take a look at the following links because the assumption that Bush is the only oil hungry maniac is contradicting to what the current information says.

http://www.usainreview.com/1_21_Security_Council.htm

http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/1999/msg00786.html

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/company/cnm00491.htm

http://archive.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/iraq1119_russiafrance/

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/pol/wsjoil.html

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/iraqfull.html

http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/iraq/20020924_362.html

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/irqindx.htm

Hey all!

That had a similar incident in the same area several years ago back in the 50s I believe. It may be just a copy cat thing. But have you noticed that he is going around D.C.? I think thats because he wouldnt get three blocks had he done it in the D.C. area itself.

[Originally posted by General-Army:]

quote:Originally posted by General-Army:
In real life im scared of everything, im afraid to get into fights, i never wanna hurt anyone and im always shy. For some reason, in all my dreams, im very brave. I see an army of dead rejenerating things like last night, and i fight them bravely instead of with fear. I talk to alot of people and i defend myself also. any reasons for these?

Hey man!

In my opinion, this is your mind's way of overcoming shyness. I'd be willing to bet if you were able to cure your shyness then you would have *alot* better chance at OBEing. This is because of the elemental balance in your body. (i.e. fire, water, air, earth). I am working on the same problem, and there are few books out there in which you can check out at the library to help you. The following books I recommend.

Conquering Shyness: The Battle Anyone Can Win
by Jonathan M. Cheek

Shyness: What It Is, What to Do About It
by Philip G. Zimbardo

[Originally posted by sapien:]

quote:Originally posted by sapien:

Albertus tells us frankly that it's forbidden to describe the process for minerals.

I've heard some people just visit the elemental kingdom of the  gnomes and just have them teach it. Sounds easy at least.

I thought the following was kind of immature but if it does not bother anyone it's ok.

<<oooooooooooooooobbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeee
oooooooooooooobbbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeee AHHHHHHHH! THEY ARE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U CAN GET POSSESED IF U DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ....................................................................................................................................
*screams bloody murder*>>

<< WHY IS OBE AN OBE?
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WHY IS AN OBE AN OBE??? O.o O.o
IS IT JUST ME ARE R U IDIOTS?
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I almost forgot this post.

I think I read somewhere awhile back that it was an elixir that totally rejuvenates the physical, astral, and mental bodies. In the process you also erase all of your former developments and have to start over. Sounds like something I need to stay away from.

Just chat on moderated boards like these. You can always find immaturity in chat rooms and most newsgroups. I think I'm feeling kind of 'low' right now because of the changing seasons. For me it happens at the beginning of fall and passes eventually.

I've from some people that if you type a belt around the circumference of your head it takes the headache away in about five to ten minutes.

Adrian, I think thats whats the whole problem with humanity as a whole. When the world tries to define itself with identity such as countries, factions, and religions we actually limit ourselves from understanding each other. Peace keepers ask for tolerance and I disagree with that value. People don't want to be tolerated they want to be appreciated. I know this is possible in this world, because within this country it has already happened. This is a culture with many cultures with in it appreciating the differences between it. Americans are just waiting for everyone else to join them. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>

I love American Indian culture. They all seem calm and very reserve people with very soft eyes. There is a sadder situation than the one with the American Indians though. My sociology professor who is American Indian has told me that the Aboriginees (sp?) have chosen they will die off. He was going to go to Australia to study the culture but told he couldn't because they want nothing to do with the rest of the world. To me it seems even more sad than the American Indians. I hope something will be solved.

P.S. Have you ever seen the movie "Dances With Wolves". If you have not, I recommend you see it.

The whole idea of economic development was not mine, it was Clinton's. Now tell me exactly how is he naiveté. The whole point of this economic development was to get them off on there OWN two feet. The are many people in Iran and Iraq which are 25 and younger are very pro American and want our help. Now there are alot of people who like to point fingers at America for what has happened to the middle east. The thing that nobody understands is that WE the people knew nothing about it. But the more we know about this the more we want to make it better. But it seems some countries around the world will not even let us do that. They just want to blame and be miserable. Doing nothing is just was worse as doing the wrong thing.

Yes, American Indians are still being screwed around with today, they are oppressed economically. Depression and alcoholism is a major problem for the reservations. More and more American Indians are going off to college every year with the help of scholarships, which is a very good thing.

Good points Adrian. I don't know if they are going to show it else where or not, but tonight on tv they are giving an interview of Saddam's former mistress. So far they've previewed the interview that Saddam would 'relax' in the evenings with watching videos of executions and movies and documentaries of Hitler.

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Yes, I agree it's another type of warfare, and I am not proud when my leaders say it's justified because Saddam is losing millions of dollars.

The people of Iraq do have to make their own choices, we can not do it for them.

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Only a handful of people in Iraq have shortwave radios. Everyone else is forced to watch a few channels such as the al-jazeera network. No satellites are allowed. How can they dream of a better life when this is the only life they know.

I'm not sure if this example will make any sense, but I'll try anyways. France intervened on behalf of the 13 colonies against Britain. It's not that the King Geroge ever abused the poor Americans, it's just that we didn't feel like paying for the protection from the American Indians. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_tongue.gif" border=0> We couldn't have done better for ourselves if it was not for France's help.

And yeah, RC makes my head spin whenver he tries to explain the Kabbalah.

Adrian,

For me the importance of economic conditions means being able to have the independence of supporting my self. It is a sense of personal accomplishment, of value and worth in doing the things you like to do. As far as materialism goes, you have to have it for spiritual development, for balance, for seeing it for what it really is. On the Iraq thing, no I personally don't want to see war with Iraq. There has been way too much of innocent lives lost due to the economic sanctions. 5,000 children continue to die there every month because of these sanctions. There has to be new leadership in there. But only more lives in the future can be lost if long term goals are not established. It would be wonderful if some democratic ideals were established there.

P.S. How come you are never at the Franz Bardon board anymore?

I agree with you Adrian, the thing that George Washington when he died wanted the most for America is to stay out of the affairs of other nations. We should not be the police, we should not revenge because there is no justification. My whole point was that for there to be peace there must be economic development for these people. We exploited them and they gave us a wake up call. We have to make things better collectively for quality and benefit of humanity, not just for  the U.S. in particular.

Did anyone happen to watch The Late Show with David Letterman last night? Former President Clinton was on it. I have to agree with what Clinton says. I know that my country has pretty much been involved directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths of 8,000,000 innocent people worldwide. But it's time for peace now. The only way for there to be peace in the Middle East (according to Clinton) is to stop the killing between Palestinians and Israelis, removal of Saddam, and end to terrorism, and most importantly economic development. Economic development is key. Yes I have to say its time for the removal of Saddam. He is a threat to the Middle East. The CIA funded and trained Saddam because he WAS a violent man, and could kill his own people. He does this whenever his position is threatened. If we want peace in this region, we can't have this kind of leader in charge. Also according to Clinton is that the Middle East should try not  to become the oil capitol of the world, but the energy capitol of the world. They can begin to install solar panels all of the desert. This will be good for two reasons. China and India are growing fast, and dependency on oil when these two countries become super economic powers is not good for any country.

I may be a little late for this but I'll say it anyways. Astronaut David Scott demonstrated a lunar free-fall experiment. He dropped a hammer and a feather simultaneously from the same height. Both experienced the same acceleration due to lunar gravity and consequently hit the ground at the same time. Had this been a televison set etc., the feather's velocity would have slowed due to air resistance. At least that is what happened according to the physics textbook I have for college.

Aphexcoil,

Perhaps you would enjoy alchemy? You could say it is the physical application of the paranomral . This is how I would only imagine that a 'soul' can be proven. I believe the alchemists call it the 'quintessence'. Check out this wonder website: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/

It also has lessons of interpreting the symbolism, which I think you said you liked.



Brandon

Anyone have an opinion on the martial art Kuk Sool Won? I've read it's supposed to be an external, internal, hard, and soft art. Basically its all Korean martial arts combined into one unique system. What do you think?

I'm Brandon,

I'm from Mesquite, Texas, and I'm 18. I ran into Robert's work from the newsgroups, and from here I ran into hermetic philosophy. I like to go hunting and atv-ing in Colorado. Starting college this summer, and plan to go into aeronautical science. I've had three consious projections, and have had them spontaneously as a child after riding roller coasters all day.

Thanks for your relpies. I wonder how alchemy relates to hermetics? Because I believe I've read that hermetics was alchemy. But wasn't balanced training in magic hermetics? It sounds a little confusing.

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Also I am currently digesting "Initiation Into Hermetics" by Franz Bardon, which is said to be the very best book on this topic by many master. Looks like good stuff, but with some "mistakes" (eg with respect to OBE, not entirely accurate...although the course is excellent).

On another message board they were talking about the same differences with astral projection and what Bardon called astral wandering. From what I gathered astral wandering is a completely different "process" from OBE/astral projection.

Thanks both nightflier101, and manfred for your responses. For now I will put aside the work of Astral Dynamics and soon begin the work of IIH. I was explained on another mailing list that there was a difference between astral projection and astral wandering in hermetics. Unfortuntely, it sounds if it will take many years to make it to that step in astral wandering. But I guess there is no time like the present!

Here, is a post from awhile back:



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How often do experienced AP'ers project?
On: Tue May 15 02:49:47 WST 2001
Posted by: Rich []
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I just wondered how often the experienced OBE'ers project.
Once or twice a week?
Less or more than this?
Robert how do you find the time do project and work on your books?
Do you ever sleep?
(heehee...)

cheers,
Rich








How often do experienced AP'ers project?
On: Wed May 16 06:12:42 WST 2001
Posted by: Romero L. Cunha [tutankamonpt@hotmail.com]
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Hello Rich,

An experienced projector can project everyday.
In higher degrees of Initation and conscience expansion, one never sleeps again.

When you are astral traveling your physical body rests.

My best wishes,
Romero Cunha

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i dont now wher to start from. can you pleas help me?

venish

There is also a three month program you can find on the main website.