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Merci pour ta repponse... j'ai vecu a Toulouse, France pendant 13 ans... je resides en californie maintenant.

Sorry for the french... i aint tryina tinkle the admins and mods out there

I've had similar experiences and I think I could give you a tip that really helped me out after practice.  While in a lucid dream, don't directly go to the step of getting out your body.  Since you are controlling the dream, make all the scenary dissapear.  Make everything black and think that you're in bed.  It's hard to explain, but try to exit the lucid dream without focusing too much and without loosing that relaxed state of mind.  Once everything's dark, picture the place you're in and at that point, attempt to exit.  It made it easier for me.  Sometimes I would try to exit right away from a lucid dream, and just end up in a 1/2 OBE, 1/2 dream.

What do you mean... you looked at it and it was 2 hrs ahead then you looked again and the time was correct.  Or when you looked it was actualy 2 hrs later.  Or did the clock jus change hrs out of nowhere?

So right now I'm at the point where I can get out fairly easily.  I can see my body and my room and whatever's around...  but everything's blury... and as soon as I try to move, I get back to the physical world.  I think it has to do with me trying to hard + energy.

What do you guys think?  What should I do?

Thank you, God bless.

I love the feedbacks guys

Yeah theres really no such thing as "dreaming" an OBE. You are either out of your body and aware of it or you arent aware at all.

Actualy that is totally possible.  I had such experience of dreaming about OBE's many many times.  I just think I obe but end up waking up in my dream.  The dreamnt OBE doesn't feel like an OBE, but when you're dreaming you do think it's a real OBE (hard to explain).  To sum it up, it's just a dream in a dream thing, but you think you OBE, even though you have no control at all.

Anyways, your experience sounds like a real obe slipped into a drea as said above.

Nice man... im still waiting for mine.... but im getting really close to a full obe... i hope my 1st experience will be as nice as yours.

I think i might of OBE'ed but everything is very fuzzy in my mind.  Here is what happened.

This happened yesturday morning (saturday).  It was around 9 or 10 am, I was still in bed and kept going in and out of sleep.  I kept waking up and just falling back asleep.  After 3 or 4 times of that, I tried exiting.  I felt strong vibrations, then I believe I fell asleep, but got into a lucid dream, but much stronger and realistic.  I was laying down on my right side.  And in front of me was a calculator (it seemed like), with numbers flashing on them.  At this point I was just staring at the calculator and was trying to remember the digits showing up.  I can remember the number 57, 48, and 32 showing up.  After that, vibrations came back and the calculator started spinning   ... i was still staring at it.  My vision was blurry but i remember i could see my bed and my room.  Then out of no where came a force that pulled my left arm up in the air... my whole body was tingling, and in a flash i was standing up by my bed.  It didn't feel real, but not quiete like a lucid dream either.  All the elements in my room were there.  Once i was standing up by my bed, I thought, if this was an OBE i could see my physical body laying in bed.  So i try to turn around to look, but something wouldn't let me.  It was like an invisible force, i tried turning around and looking but i couldn't look at my body, i just couldn't turn that way.  So i said, okay forget it... i approached the door in my room and jumped up to go across it, and BOOM!!! I get back in my body and wake up.

^What just happened?  I don't believe this was a full OBE but maybe some sort of it.  Can anyone help me out?

There's 2 noises i hear.... my pules which beats like my heart... and an ongoing whoooooooosh sound which i believe might be energy waves.

Messing with spirits is devilish IMO... I would not mess with the dead, because that comes from my religious belief.  But I'm not gonna get into that.  Those ouija board always scared the excrement outa me.  Especially after watching the 1st exorcist...

well... you're on the right path getting your eyes unfocused... but try seeing from your 3rd eye... imagine you're seeing from your 3rd eye located around in between your eyebrows... try getting your chakra stronger there also... read NEW.

hahaha.... i was exactly like that and i started to talking to Tom from this forum... the guy helped me a lot.  Probly taught me most of the things i know.  But the forum does look a little scary at first.

Well i tried to focus on them many times, but they just fade away... anyways ima take a little break and try again next week.

Thanks a lot for the replies

much props... i found out too that taking a break off of it, and doing it again later, i get much better result.  And that's with everything else, practicing too hard won't get it done.  Body and brain needs a break.

yes... there are different layers of aura... the one you're seeing is the easiest to see.  Keep practicing and focus on your 3rd eye while doing it.

My dearest wish is to fly too.... been working with energy for 2 years now... not a lot of results happen.  And im still sure anything is possible.  But yeah, the younger you start, the better, as long as you're focused and dedicated.

Haha,,,  i had the same doubts that you have.... but after feeling those vibrations everyone talk about and the feeling of floating in the air, it made me think that some of it must at least be true.  So why not keep progressing and see if it is really true?  Mind as well right.  I feel that i'm very close of accessing the astral and i have a strong feeling that all of this is mos def. real....

so its really up to you.

Its like religion?  You either with it or against it... not saying that practicing astral travel should be a religion!!!  but its the same principle... its all about faith.

Look at us.  Look at the way we're made, look at mother nature and how everything was made so perfectly.  Look how powerful our body and brain is.  How can our heart function?  How can we think?  When you seriously think deeply about it, there's gota be more than we think of.  

Ever had a feeling something will happen and it really did?  Had a deja vu before?  Or had a feeling someone was in the room with you?  Those things are all part of our brain's mysteries.  The more you explore and the more you'll see clearer.  TRUST ME... i never believed anything until i told myself: "what am i going to lose?"

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
And until you actualy experience an obe, you cannot assume it's just a dream.  And we can't assume it's not either, we'll just have to see for ourself.  I am on the same path as you and am still waiting for answers.  I have already planned what i'll do when i first obe.  So until then... i can't really fully answer your questions

It's been a while since i posted... but i've been working hard.  It seems that i can now lucid dream at will.  I mean I get them at least 5 times a week early in the mornings.  But that's beside the point.

Now that i can lucid dream, i get to try to OBE more often.  Sure that sounds good but i can't get passed those damn vibes.  I had em so many times but the same thing happens every single time i get them.  I have tried everything!!!  

Once vibes kick in, i jus relax and try the rope technique.  I ignore the vibes as best as i can... i tried moving them throughout my body,,, tried EVERYTHING i can think of.  Read 1000's of technique, but NO!  THEY ALWAYS DIE DOWN.  They hit me really strong, i see strong white flashed, but after 30 sec to a minute the whole thing dies down until it completely goes away.

I seriously don't know what to do anymore.  Sure lucid dreams are fun,  getting vibes and feeling like i'm floating in the air is fun, but i still haven't obe'd.  ANy suggestions?

Thank you.

If you've tried tactile and imaging techniques before then just feel energy flowing through your head.  Try reading N.E.W. otherwise.  It'll teach you how to flow energy.

Man... i loved your experience.  That's cool, just kicking it with your subcons.... so your's a old jazz player,  wonder what mine is... lol

That sounds real cool though. Can't wait til some crazy stuff like that happens to me man.... been 2 years now and no obe still....

thanks... Cool technique, will try it tonight

^i don't get it??  explain please.

Since no one replied... I'm gonna start it
Keep in mind that I am still trying to get out (it's been a yr now).

I start by laying down in my bed on my back.  I look at the ceiling for about 10 minutes.  I concentrate on the radom thoughts that are coming in my head.  After 10 minutes, I close my eyes and I get all thoughts out of my head.  i imagine my self falling in the dark.  I keep falling and falling.  eventualy the vibes hit and I imagine my self grabbing a rope on top of my bed and pulling....

So yeah, I use the rope technique to get out.

I haven't yet fuly OBE'ed but I strongly believe that, yes, praying in the astral is much stronger.  I have told myself that the first thing I'll do when I succeed on going out will be to get on my knees and pray.  I believe that being to OBE is spiritual, and while you're in a spiritual realm, prayers are of course stronger.
Take care.

What do you guys think he took a picture in the astrals and came back with it or something?  It's probly a picture that's similar to what the pool looks like.