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(((cobalt)))

It sounds like you internalized a lot of guilt, pain, and fear about something that wasn't your fault.  You need to know, truly believe, let go and forgive yourself.   I don't know specifically how this type of fear will effect your magical studies, spiritual activities, etc. but I do know that such a strong reactive emotion such as fear is stressful and unnessicary.

If it was me, I would perform some sort of symbolic ritual with the intent of forgiveness to myself and acceptance of the "Will" of the Universe.  I would do this, not because I would be suddenly "cured" from this fear, but becasue I would know that my intent to eventually let go of it would be grounded in the physical realm.  If you think you can do this type of work in lucid dreaming, then perhaps you can tackle it there.

I am not saying I am myself free of fear.  But I do know that there are steps we can do to try and realise it.

Good luck,
joya

erm.. I think you are reading too much into all this... the real answer is far more simple.. I just have a lot of experience of past accounts of 'pole-shifts, energy portals, earth changes etc and have seen many such tales come and go over the years, and this one is no different.. When I say 'cynical' that wasnt quite correct, as i am not cynical in any real way,, cynicism is a disease of the mind in my opinion. however this doesnt mean I am not level headed either and I listen to my own experience... and this is what my own exprience tells me...

I just wanted to throw in an opposing viewpoint for you to mull over; but of course you are free to disagree... I can't help feeling however that at some point you will see through these stories about 'global energy shifts' etc, usually after the 50th such prediction kicks in.

Such stories are peddled for those who are desperate for things to change in some fundamental way.. the good news is that things CAN change in a fundamental way, but the change comes from within, not without.

Douglas

Are you NOT desperate for things to change in some fundamental way?  Because I sure am!  This is so much suffering, fear, repression, and the like in this world, not to mention the natural Earth itself is being poisoned because of this.

Gandalf, I respect your position.   And I can't say that I haven't been there myself -- I definitely hear you about these predictions.  But even if all they do is spark the intent for revolution, inner revolution, then aren't they doing a "job" so to speak?

Do you believe in the global energy shift?   If you do, then why would you scoff at an article that may help others start believing it too?

I know change starts within.   However, within is eventually without.   If all you do, as you say, is listen to your own experience... then maybe you should consider expanding your definition of what your "own experience" is, perhaps to include the experiences of others and possibilities.   Hmmm, am I saying that right?   So, maybe changing you definition of what experience is would be a fundamental change, originating from within?

Peace, joya

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At the same time, as I become more authentic, I am ever farther out on the "feminine" axis.  The men in my life make fun of me for the very intuition, emotion, and creativity that they treasure me for.  

Groups of women do the same thing with men -- denigrating the very qualities that are so needed simply because they are out of pattern.  

It's only because  I am so adept in the male patterns of logic and dominance structures that I have the freedom to explore other things in my linear life -- to BE intuitive because I can reshape it into a form that doesn't sound so crazy to linear thinkers.  

Amen, Sister!  

My perspective on this posted article is this.   Yes, like many of the others, I have heard / read "prophecy" like this before.   But, ironically it is at the right time.   And I mean right time by being when I am most open to receiving the information.  

Now, take this as you will, co-incidence or not...  but very recently I have renewed an active quest for knowledge (after taking a year to travel and experience).   I have opened up myself for every opportunity of validation / inspiration and higher learning.

In a few short weeks my environment has transformed.  It was like a shift, a connection into a new realm of possibility.  Everything makes sense.  (Though I still don't understand the deeper why of this.)  

Okay, so, I have begun to live seeing the deeper cycle of things.  This is new to me, but I felt like I raised my vibration to a higher octave.   I have two cats, ages 5 and 6.   The six year old cat is my baby.   My most beloved, adored creature in the world.   I felt this concern for him, because he made a shift too.  I know that when one unit of energy speeds up (heats up, whatever) that the energies nearby are also affected.  I observed as he became a more loving, affectionate cat.  This cat had always had a chip on it's shoulder, and dominated over the other one.   (Perhaps that's why I loved him so! haha)

Last night, I returned from an out-of-state trip.  My cat was in obvious distress.  I rushed him to the emergency pet hospital, where he was diagnosesd with heart failure.  They don't quite know what is happening to him, but the xrays show that his heart seems to be repositioning.  They are saying it may be some type of heart disease in cats that strikes suddenly.  He will most likely die in fairly short time, and he is in an oxygen tank at the hospital right now.  

I have been distraught, asking WHY?  Yet, at the same time, I do have a belief in a "transitioning of energy"-type death.  So, I know my cat's "creator angel" or higher essence exists at some level.

I got online tonight with the intent of distraction, and to find comfort in higher learning.  So, I know this might sound weird, but this post definitely struck me.  If my cat had to die to make the shift, then perhaps tonight, or around this time is the most harmonious time to do it.

Additional comfirmation to me was the mention of Hawaii and Leumeria.  I visited Maui for 19 days this summer -- and truly felt the Goddess.   (And yes, I use the feminine-energy aspect when describing that island, even though it is named after a male Hawaiian god.)  I have also just begun learning more about the so-called "mythological" old societies (Atlantis, Leumeria, etc.) and what I am reading is resounating.  Even if it isn't true, it feels as if it is, or at least many of the parts.

Although this may seems trival, these are my experiences... which seem to be tying into a sense of the big picture.  My life, the "big picture" -- it truly does, in glimpses, feel like "Home".

So, being as it will, this type of article, prediction, whatever, rings true to me.

peace,  joya

Maybe someone can help me out here.

I believe, like many others, that Fear is the opposite of Love.   This would make sense, in terms of balance and polarity.   However, why is it that everything I've encountered (i.e. books, websites, etc.) that relate to spirituality and the human condition postulates that LOVE is Truth.  How can Love be Truth... and not Fear?   How can Love be "stronger" than Fear???  Why is it that "light" will prevail over "darkness"?

Do you see what I'm getting at here?  Why the exception?   If "God" is "Love"...  where does that leave Fear?

Hope I'm making sense, and if not, I can certainly try to clarify... but I'd love to hear some other's thoughts on this.

Thank you in advance, joya

Selski ~

I completely hear you.

I got rid of my tv years ago.   I do, however, still eat meat.   Before I consume the meat, I thank the animal for it's life.  Humans are meat-eaters.  It is nature.  Is nature cruel?  Maybe.  I don't find eating meat wrong, but what I do find wrong is the way the entire meat-industry is run -- and most of you know exactly what I'm talking about.  

But that's not really the reason for your post, the whole meat thing.   That's just one of the tips of the entire messed up iceberg.  

I feel the same way -- questioning my "knowing", my "spirituality"...  is it based on something "real" or is it a coping mechanism.   I don't know if I will ever really know.   Sometimes it all just flows -- and other times I completely crash.

I don't know if the suffering in this world is increasing... but it definitely feels like it.   And it boils down to just one question:  WHY?!?!

WHY?  And what is the point???

Argh.  I think I've joined you in your rant.   Not with the intent to be negative, but I am questioning / questing too.

joya

hi everyone

I wanted to ask if anybody from the forum is planning on attending the Burning Man Festival this year... or if anybody has gone in previous years... or what you think / know about it?

For those of you who haven't heard of this event, it is (very simplistically) "an annual experiment in temporary community dedicated to radical self-expression and radical self-reliance". And, if you are curious, check out burningman.com for much, much more info.

I'll be there! And I wanted to see if anybody from the AP community will be too -- or at least offer some information, words of wisdom, thoughts, etc.

thanks in advance,
joy

I think complete and utter love of the third dimension and all its "perceived" flaws is absolutely necessary.  It seems today that the third dimension and its vehicle of choice, the ego, have a bad rap.

How did this come about?  So many people (and no one take offense, because myself has been included in this) bemoan our limitations as "humans" and search for other realms, such as the astral, etc.

While that is all well and good (and very exciting!) ... I am concerned about the negativity and resentment that I perceive is harbored at humanity's current situation.  We all got here because of reality consensus – and it is THAT by which people are unconsciously trapped, not the fact that that is the natural human condition.

Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of people are learning energy techniques and projection as a form of escape... AS WELL AS other reasons, such as spiritual advancement, expanding consciousness, etc.  I have been  poking around here and seen quite a few people relay the feeling that they couldn't wait to leave their body and be free of limitation.  I know that not everybody feels this way, but I am concerned that this belief may be affecting us subconsciously.  The belief that we are lesser as humans shouldn't exist at all.

I can say personally that will I know energy raising, astral projection, etc. by second nature, when I am truly able to accept and embrace the enormous power we have as humans.

We straddle both realms, and in fact all realms.  Why not live this realm to the fullest instead of yearning for something that is already in you?

Just some thoughts.

joya

If you currently are able to have OBE or astral project or reach different levels of astral consciousness (I'm going to attempt to find out the difference between these, if any, momentarily)...  WHY do you do it?

Same question for those who aren't yet able, but attempt:  Why do you try to do it?

hi everybody ~

I apologize if this question is redundant.  I'm new (no pun intended) to the forum.  I've poked around a little bit, but haven't been able to find a thread (yet) explaining what N.E.W. stands for.  From what I gather, it is some kind of energy-raising exercise program?

Could somebody please help me out?

thank you in advance, joya

LOL   no worries Nay!

www-dot is soooo 2000.  []

I know this topic isn't quite on topic of the forum (Astral travel and such)... but I thought there might be some here who know of BM or are going or whatever.  

cheers, joya

Hi Nay,

Yes, this event has been going on for several years.  I've always been curious about it.    And, thank you for the link to their website, as apparently you missed my posting it myself in the above post.  []

joya

very cool tayesin.
don't know what else to say, but thanks for sharing.   .... freaky, hearing it written like that.

hi Kerri,

I hear what you are saying, and it pretty much echoes how I feel.

However, I think it is missing a critical element.  Yes, desire is not "bad"... and most definitely yes should we freely partake of life's pleasures, as it is our "birthright" so to speak. (And who says we only learn things the "hard way"?  I prefer to learn things enjoyably)  BUT only if it in is line with our "true" nature.  

Not all "desires" are based on the highest good.  One, for example, might desire to enact their force over others against their will.  As this is contradictory to the flow of things (IMO) then I believe guilt acts as a signal that something is off-balance, and alignment with the Higher Self has not yet been acheived.

But, generally, yes, what you are saying is true.  If you are allowing the highest vibration of love to flow through you and are open to experiences to promote yours and other's highest good, then, hey desire can be fun!!!

[Qui-Gon Jinn]

Qui-Gon Jinn

LOL, erotic eye thing, huh?  [:I] well... if I remember correctly, there was a little love-makin' going on that night... although I was all by myself.  heh heh

Majour Ka   How YOU doin'?  []

and, Inguma ...  cool pics! I'm jealous!!!

do they have a Starbucks in the UK?  []

Good advice...  

I need to try and be able to connect better.  Although I am more and more in touch with my Higher Self, I still have a hard time distinguishing it from "me".  (hmmm, that could be not a bad thing.)  I also have a very loud "id"... and like to indulge myself.  To top that off, I am constantly thinking/analyzing and can rationalize everything.   So it is often difficult to recognize the "gentle caring voice"

quote:Originally posted by holy reality

hence

"Existence is suffering."
"The cause of suffering is desire."

Nirvana..... satori, etc... nothingness....

Basically the answer is not in existing, but rather in eternally nonexisting....

I do not know whether I would prefer to never be again after this life, to be nothing, but I know that I do not under any circumstances want to be human any more, this world sickens me, these people sicken me. They are largely good in a way, but they are so naive and ignorant, and so many of them are helpless slaves..... but we are all slaves sadly.

I just don't want this existence, I want something better, or nothing at all.. reincarnating as human in an uncertain future, perhaps in a third world country, terrifies me... reincarnating as something less than a human is that much worse.

I want to cease to be or to move on to being something better, frankly.

and I have no idea what to believe, so that complicates things too.

haha ~ and it will probably be those beliefs/feelings surrounding humanity that will cause you to come back... again and again!    

While I definitely sympathize, I can't feel that negatively towards humanity.  All these people who are "sleepwalking" are awake at some level, you know?  I believe as humans, we are all Gods.  It appears that we have magnificent powers when we are able to tap into the energy.  Everybody shares in this.  ... yes, I agree that the majority of people are all "slaves" and, in my opinon, pretty ignorant.  I still think that each person is striving for spiritual perfection (eventual nirvana, satori, etc.?) in their own way, whether or not they understand it.

The human race is connected, just like the universe is connected.  Perhaps we really do have to incarnate here repeatedly until a large enough percentage "get it" and we can tip the scales the other way?

hey Blacksteam ~  I think Yerzak06 was talking to me, not you.

And, yah, Yerzak06, you're right...  though actually I DID read it, cause I do have the book, but either it was so long ago or I misunderstood, that I didn't realize it was tactile imagining.  

So thanks Blackstream & Yerzak for explaining it.  And sorry gopherboy if I hyjacked your thread!

This is a great thread.

I'm new here, but you people seem like an interesting bunch, so I'm sure I'll stick around for a while. []

So here's some of me.  One's from last Father's Day, and the other is from Beltane last year.    

... hmmm, now let me see if I can figure out how to upload sh*t....

Hey Beavis ~

First I just have to say, careful what you wish for.  

Also, yes, you are right, energy is energy.  We all exchange psychic energy... typically through emotions (anger, fear, etc.), and sex is a great way to exchange as well.  The funny thing is, when someone is mad at you... they are feeding you all this energy!  All you have to do, which you obviously can, is convert it and/or difuse it.  This also kinda sucks, like when you're mad at someone and you KNOW you're sending them energy, but you just can't help it cause you're so ticked!

Oh, btw, you said people don't want to give positive energy as much as negative???  Sounds like you're hanging out with the wrong kinda people!  Positive energy is much better.  Why promote negativity in any form... even if you can vibe off it?

Anyway, enjoy!   And, good luck.  There are some pretty powerful things out there... just waiting for an open invitation.  I personally wouldn't invite negativity, but each to his (her) own!

joya

Thank you all for your replies!  It helps give me a broader view of the endeavour itself.

I asked it because I myself was wondering why I was interested in it.  What did I hope to acheive, etc.?

I wonder, when you set out to project, or get into trance, or whatever, do you set specific goals for yourself?  Or do you more just kinda let it happen?

Joya

quote:Originally posted by Yerzak06

joya, the whole point of the rope method is so that one doesnt need to visualise at all.

Really???  I thought the whole point was the visualize that you were climbing a rope up out of your body... and I guess some people use it to descend down as well.

If it isn't visualization, then what is it?

while I whole-heartedly agree with that quote...  I have to question, isn't EVERYTHING a cycle, just on another level?  The universe expands and contracts, we evolve and forget... creation / destruction / creation... etc.

Is there ever not a cycle???

I totally agree that truth is imperative.  However, that is exactly what I have been struggling with.  ...  is telling the truth ALWAYS the "correct" choice in certain situations?  And by correct, I mean the one that resounates with love, rather then aligning to a mental construct.

What if, for example, I know what I am to learn from a certain person and I have a pretty good idea what he is to learn from me.  (I feel I know this though awareness of the exchange between our Higher Selves.)  But knowing that if I tell him something now of something that will occur at a later date (it is a specific event, though right now it is only a possibility and not yet concrete.  But it is in the air of possibility, or you could say hasn't taken form in this dimension yet.) ... and if I tell him this now it will interfere with our exchange.  In other words, it will dull our exchange... not through my end, but because he will most likely have trouble dealing with the full truth.   (I have been nothing but honest with him, and if this event does materialize the way I think it will, I will, of course tell him.)

Anyway, that is just a personal thing I'm dealing with.... the question I am putting out there is...  What if you know that by telling somebody something you will interfere with the natural exchange that needs to occur for both of you to learn?  I've always considered withholding information a form of dishonestly...  yet, is it sometimes what needs to happen for the Lower Selfs to experience what they need to to learn?  

Thoughts?

joya

well put cube!  

That is exactly how I feel, only I didn't know how to express it.  

thanks

How I think I've been able to connect more with my higher self:

Empty your mind / alter your conciousness / expand perception.  Time slows down.     You connect with that stillness.  Once you've truly connected you cannot speed up again, but sink into the relaxed order of energy flow.  It stays empty only momentarily, but enough so that you embody it. ...When it fills up again it fill us with love as the Truth of this world.   The ego is then a tool for the expression of the true essence of your Higher Self.

joya