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..... what was the point??? !!!!  


        Oh .. doesn't matter .... so here everything gets distorted.... , its always the same idea and the same story and the same thread but somehow the meanings are twisted or changed.....   so view points on the same subject are shifting constantly....  

  Have you entered to the Matrix yet ?    

daidaluz, how do you feel energy, what method do you use? i want to know how to do it and also how to take energy in and put it outetc. I can do a "full body circuit" as robert bruce calls it, and feel the energy, and all of that stuff in my subnavel area etc, but i don't know how to put it into stuff and i would really like to know.
If anyone could tell me it would be greatly appreciated

The best way to explain it is through "Visualization", also this is a great practice, I think, to develop this kind of ability.  

 If I tell you  to visualize yourself in the mountains , what you do is to SENSE and FEEL for the wind in your face, the smell in the air charged with energy, the ground under your feet , etc.  So , when you do this exercise an IMAGE is created spontaneously in your mind; visualization is then about sensing and feeling , not creating by own will a mental image.

When I go outside and intake energy , always try to intake different types of energies,   vital energy, trees energy, strong energies from mountains,  energy from the ground, from the wind, storms , etc.  I always try different experiments..

After all this time I have started to recognize different types of energy from place to place, even I can tell the energy as having different Flavors; sweet , metallic, clean, dirty;  I can tell if there is a good flow in some areas or a weak one in others.

My mind seems to give shapes and colors and "visual sensations" to the energy I'm sensing. This happens automatically.

Well, this is something new to me , and it stated after several month of practicing visualization and intaking energy the way I just told you.

Probably the KEY thing is "visualization practices" and "intaking for different types of energies".

I wonder if there is a REAL method for seeing auras  and energy as well.

 Since a few month I started to "see auras" , but in a different way.
I always practice energy intaking exercises and now I'm good at "sensing" energy. Well , while I'm sensing , my brain , or mind (not sure) seems to create an image (in my mind) of what I'm sensing.  So if a sense for the energies of a person who is in front of me , an image is created automatically in my mind and I can tell the aura's shape, color , etc.

It's something like a spontaneous visualization, but it's all about perception and sensing.

By the way, trying to see Trees auras works great, the best time is when the sun has fallen and the sky is dark blue.  Try it !!!.

The Karma theory (like any religious theory) presumes that it is ruled by something other than our perceptions. So your perception of good and evil wouldn't matter, if you thought killing people was good karma, and you killed someone, it would still be bad karma.

If you don't believe in karma, like you or I, then yes, you can live without those restrictions, but it doesn't help in trying to debate them, or disprove them. It is the most subtle argument I've ever seen, and nearly impossible to prove or dispute. You just believe it or you don't.

  I see Karma as the "things" that happen to me every day.  If a go and spend today all my money and the money I do not have, then I'll be in trouble tomorrow.  But if I become the one who nurses an entire community then I'll be someone important for them.  

Probably there is a misinterpretation, it doesn't matter what I think what is good or bad; .........but there IS a concept of good and bad in the community (or environment)  in which I live, as a whole. So the effects in my own life are close linked to the causes I've activated in my environment.  

Karma is an OLD knowledge so it becomes of importance when people realize that karma Can be manipulated or managed in a way.

Learning Astral Projection is GREAT to become aware of subtle dimensions as well as developing own senses to explore reality in a more "complete"way.

  While learning AP is good practice to "rely" (using Tom words) on theory and take different perspectives in order to include as many view points as possible.    

 As I see it , this gives you good skills to manage own reality in a better way.  

Prayer is a request, not a demand.

You say 'please heal me -insert Deity/Force-' over and over and over and over again until you fall asleep.

The thing is  how open you really are to the energies you are requesting.

Anyone is capable of praying and asking, but how many do understand  what brings to own consciousness  that what is being asked ? !!.

In the other hand , in order to receive healing it is required to let go own fears and that is the great point because the ego does not want to loose its "pedestals".

Well , when you feel a "force" pressuring you over and over and over as may happen anywhere in life or social activities it's because fear is interfering to the chance to overcome that specific situation.

You are absolutely right , there are no greater healers than anyone else, but there are good patients and bad patients, that makes the difference.
Probably 30% of the healing process (at most) belongs to the healer practitioner, the rest is about how open or receptive is the patient to the "energies" needed.

Hi Nita

 I've always seen my world in a different perspective, and I've found that my concepts (for learning and for transmitting my knowledge) fit perfectly with hermetics and alchemy.

Which branch are you teaching for hermetics?  

Congratulations , everything that helps people to free themselves is just Great.

What is enpathy for you?

[So You may try to wake them up,but instead they just kick you,and go to sleep again]

It is interesting,but trying to get actual unbiased responses is nearly impossible.So many people are just sleepwalking through their entire life.

So You may try to wake them up,but instead they just kick you,and go to sleep again.

What a coincidence, the same has just happened to me      

[Them]

Who are they?

They are Them. Is everybody who speaks about terminology and assumption in daily conversations that I don't get the point. It's like a wall that I can't penetrate,  my pathways are closed to realize that there is no aggression against me. So I get irritated. People seems to be able to take everything into their own ground and I get lost in there. I feel like I live in the land of those who are more experienced than me, they speak freely and friendly, but it's like they're deceiving me.  Why I can't stand up and make my own reality?. What is that I'm afraid of??


  Looks like every situation has several view points as well as several reality chances to be explored...

I think that if you are really able (by your own talents) to reach a hidden place , then you are allowed to be there.  ..natural law  !!! .

Hi Nay , beautiful words, they make great sense to me.

 Reading some metaphysical books I've found a Master called Hillarion; he has a spiritual school of healing in the etheric realm above an island. This school has two great classrooms, one for giving help to those who ask for healing all over the world ; and another for teaching about healing.   I realize now that having the chance to go to this place is becoming one with God's path.

Hahaha , now I'm interested.  


     See you around.  

Hello EOL007, I've been learning a little bit about healing during this past few month. There are several ways for healing , but I've found a couple that might be of interest.

First of all, to harness a lot of energy and give healing you must have a lot of experience and be at it for several years.      

God sends healing energies by its own through his messengers, so if you are able to recognize this energies you'll probably be able to use them somehow. Of course this is not very effective, especially if you're new at this.

Mmmm , in my opinion, healing energies are linked to budic energies (guiding), if you pay attention you may find a relation between both of them. So ill people are those who are "away" from this budic rays (and from the path). ...Well you may use your own wise energies and turn them into a healing-like flow to put this people in their path again. This will harmonize their chakras and energy blockages will clean up, and they'll get better.   If you practice enough you will learn to harness more and more energy and turn it into a healing flow that will work in more people every time; then you'll be able to command it.      ... of course this is only a view, an approach if you want.

Remember , God is not someone above you, is a being that is giving you his own life so you may use it in your own world.

Hi BirdManKalki, well, heh      ......  mmmm ....first post is always important.

I was told by a woman with multiple personality disorder, who could also channel spirits and communicate with animals, that you could achieve instant karma by just sincerely asking for it. If so, it would be great for spiritual development since you'd learn from your mistakes right away and advance "faster".

Then pharmakeia wrote

As you continue to become more aware, you'll be aware of the ravages of improper action on the here nowness of yourself and the impressions it has made on the whole you through your life. The somatic impressions on your mind/body space exist as the impressionist undercurrents of asubconsious river of past information that "controls habit" more then produces growth oriented order and organization.
Thus any regressive memories that surface can be benificial to the seeker who questions the source of their current state of BEING.

Transformation is an interesting topic as it relates to instant karma.

And Tom was giving some life to the point

want everyone to admit that they are thinking it: Just add water.

More seriously, I read in Mahayana Buddhism that the Bodhisattva Chenrezigs (Avalokitesvara) gives good karma to anyone who asks for it, from his own supply. It was compared to having a checking account with such a high balance that he can give out blank checks to anyone who will then be able to fill in any amount. I have tried asking before, but it is hard to say objectively that it worked or did not.

It's a learning to pay attention to those who are older than you.

To get this clear,   you may see bad karma as those "problems" in your life that don't know why are they happening. This may come from other people (in relationship), own health, etc.  look at GuardianMasterAngel's post.
If you can detect that bad karma as coming from a group of people (for example), then you must be able to manage concepts in a wider sense.

after thinking you come to idea to use this karma effect for yourself, benefit... , I have then noticed that "bad karma" is instant but "good karma" is not(i know this cant be truth) so i wonder.. I just don't see that "good" karma .. or ??

Probably is about learning to control karma energy.  I see bad karma as a mass of (chaotic) energy that comes from one or many locations (spots ?? !!!).

What if we learn to "control" different types of "chaotic" energies?    I think the answer is that we would probably learn to turn some of this instant bad karma into a good karma. So instant bad karma could be a instant good (or favorable) karma to ourselves.

Great Masters had the capability to turn bad events into favorable events; even through history it seems that they were specting some bad karma to turn it into something good to their cause.

HI Andali27

Some people seem to Intake energy; I mean to have more energy under control.  Other people cheat their subconscious mind and enter into an astral dimension.    I'm still "discovering" my out of body realm.

Coffee is more like a drug. You'd probably have an unreal astral experience , I mean not being able to identify reality.  

It's better to try a real time oobe.


Hey potential, try to meditate more often on subtle energies and realities, ¡¡¡¡ that works for me !!! .

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did God make humans or did humans make God?

          ..ask a boyfriend.  



   Can humans become God??

Don't you think when people "get there" their subconscious minds would take over and the whole place would be fake?


I mean, how does this work, I know the Astral Pulse Island isn't real but who created it? How can someone go there without many years of training to be able to stay awake and concentrated and still be able to remember the whole thing?

¡¡¡ I've never been there !!! If it's a place for gathering , then the whole island has to be made out of the subconscious mind of all its visitors. So is very real for them , and a true place for gathering.

I picture it in my mind as an Astral place that irradiates with rays of light the material world (at least its surroundings)  Mmmm Next time I'm oobeing will try to see one of this rays and follow it up to its origin.     ..If this works I will let you know.

Don't worry, I don't know if I am just defective but...I have been trying VERY hard to experience projection for nearly five years now. NOTHING.  Imagine the frustration after 5 years, you've only been trying for 1 week and you have gotten pretty far...GOOD LUCK!

I'm still having some problems with astral projection but that's in second place; most important is to having fun and get some learning.  Soon or late we'll be able to get out from our bodies.  

Hi Guardian,  MAjor Tom  

 Huh I feel sorry about my personality, it always wants to find out by watching rather than get into play .  I'm still intrigued to find out if finally Neo was a sort of Guardian protecting humans or protecting those who were above himself as Morpheus , captain of a ship.
Neo used to get into the Matrix to rescue humans and bring them to the real world.

Guardian I thought you could have a clue about that.

If you could step around karma, karma wouldn't exist.

You mean which karma you chose.  Every action generates a "Karma or Dharma"  reaction.

"To each his own"......  I live in Chile, its kind of cold too.  
It only means that Australias winter is not big problem for you;  right?