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Thanks for the suggestions...

I tried waking up a few hours earlier and then attempting a projection and had a few weird experiences.  One, I was drifting into the sleep state, probably attempting to project, when I felt a sudden tap on both shoulders, bringing me instantly awake.  At the time I thought it was the "grabbing hands" phenomenon.  Who knows...

The other was some kind of dream where I was travelling very fast down the road in a car or something.  I started to get pretty scared and scream, I think, then, tried to deliberately pull the car off the road by swerving to the right.   I managed to do so, but the dream ended and I think I felt my projectable double turn to the side and fall into my physical body.  I felt a distinct falling sensation when this happened, and it felt like I initiated it.  I think I got a little freaked and woke up right then.

Hopefully these are good signs...

Thanks,
Justin

I am also having these pressure sensations in the nose/third eye area.  If I focus on them I can feel them pulling, like a current in water.  If I give in to it, they pull my head ever so slightly to the right and upward.  It's very weird.

I will try some of the suggested techniques to ease the pressure.

Hi there,

I recently had the exact same thing happen!  My first OBE was totally by accident (kinda... I don't think it would have happened at all if not for practicing over the past weeks but I still didn't consciously induce it).

Anyway, I have been changing my technique to sitting in a recliner instead of on pillows on the floor, and also I think I might have had my trance/projection techniques backwards.  I think I was trying to sink when projecting and float when trancing!  Not sure, but I'll have to keep trying...

A general question:  when sinking should you feel your BODY sink or your awareness sink?  It's kind of a point-of-view thing.  I only ask because a night ago I was trying VERY hard to project, and was pushing my awareness upward, and I felt myself hit full trance rather abruptly. (perhaps because of my body sinking?)

Other than that, I get very relaxed, my arms and legs feel very numb, but I think controlling my breathing might be a problem, too.

Good luck,
Justin

It's worth saying that I also read AD some more today and it says that re-entry is difficult to impossible if the body is physically in deep sleep, and also this can lead to the "oh no... am I dead?" feeling that I experienced.

It seems that everything I have experienced so far I have been able to look up in AD.  That book is really amazing.

ralphm,

That's exactly what I was thinking.  Typically when listening to music in this state, one particular instrument stands out and it's usually something in the background that I almost never focus on.

I don't think I ever forced my re-entry.  I just ended up waking up later.  Also, these memories didn't come right away.   I had to spend a few minutes recalling them, but they were easy to recall.

Now, I am not eager to claim that I have done something that I haven't done.  I am after the truth, not lying in order to get fame or acceptance, but I don't think this was simply a dream.  I could give the old excuse of "it felt too real", but dreams can feel real also.  No, instead, I am going to say that the continued interaction with my physical body as far as breathing and sight was concerned is unlike ANYTHING I have ever experienced in my 21 years on this planet.I think this is more than a self-induced fantasy about projecting.  I guess it was silly for me to think that my first OBE would have me gliding around through walls with ease, which is what makes this all the more compelling:  it was very clumsy. A simple dream would have been much better orchestrated, like a movie, and probably would have involved otherpeople (and no interaction with my physical body).  It's funny... I just always thought "getting there" was the hard part, and that the exit was automatic, but this was the opposite.

Overall, it was a mixed bag.  The projection, time-wise, was probably around the ultrashort range, which was why my recall was so good.  There's no doubt that I did sleep, as I can recall another unrelated dream as well.  It's 11:45 AM asI write this.  Now, all this being said, could this have in fact been a spontaneous projection?  I didn't intend for this to happen at all.

As a test, after writing this, I just layed down in much the same position, and observed the couch-cam view that I had during this OBE.  It looks exactly how it did in the OBE.

I just hope I can use this experience to more easily induce future ones.  I have that silly "couch-cam" experience to remember this one by.

Thanks Robert Bruce for such an awesome handbook and the desire to put together such a great set of resources and
online community.

Justin

I read those phasing and lenation articles and I don't think it accurately describes what I was experiencing.

It feels like experiencing things from a much more detached frame of mind, with kind of a hazy, yet clear, focus.

I suppose I kind of exaggerated the "slowing down". What I am talking about is much more mild, and is probably just the result of being in a VERY relaxed state while listening to something as crazy and energetic as music... the guitar, vocals, drums, etc all kinda throws the deep relaxation for a loop because of the constant barrage on the senses by a variety of sounds.

I don't really think anything moves any slower, though I am not sure that this could not be accomplished with rigorous practice.

I really enjoyed the phasing article about a boxer having excellent reflexes because of being able to control this ability.  Fascinating, all the same!