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This dream also struck me as odd.  I was in some sort of church or building.  But I believe it was called a church.  there were alot of people there.  We were all being taught how to get to what I call focus 10 and then I believe the next topic would be how to have an out of body experience.  There were two people that were the teachers or people in charge.  They walked around and kind of rubbed everyone's feet.  (Btw, everyone was laying on some sort of mats real comfortable ones).  Somehow by the person who felt the foot could tell whether or not you were doing it correctly.  I became really good at this in my dream.  I would feel a sort of tingling in my feet when I would get to the desired state and then the lack of feeling would follow.  anyways I did this several times and they check several times on my feet.  and They talked to me about something the first time, I can't say that I remember exactly what was said then.  then I tried to get to that state of consciouness they were teaching... I did it in less than 5 minutes time ( or what I perceived to be less than 5 minutes).  Now, this is what seems the most strange to me.  When they woke me up one time they told me that we were doing something else at the same time.  I simply thought they were going to teach us how to obe and I was just like ok I've become bored of what were doing and thought I want to move on to something new.  But they said to me "You've already copied the whole church database" it was supposed to be really long or something.  I only guessed that my subconscious was working on this task while I was trying to reach F10 consciously.  I didn't understand it.  One of the people in charge, who I perceived to be one of my friends in real life, Said you're really fast with this computer stuff.  and stuff like you're a wiz or something like that.  Somehow that my subconscious really understood how to do stuff on the computer and do it faster than most other people.  (Also btw, I wasn't in anyways touching the computers so I only guessed that maybe I was doing it psychic like.  All though it all seemed very strange to me).  This dream was very vivid.  All though I had my eyes closed in the dream alot of the time I could see the room I was in as if from another set of eyes.
** Addition after a little thought : I believe that my mind lacking in some information filled in the concept of a church to fill what it did not know or perhaps what was similar.  I think the computer may also be a filled in part... something I'm used to was filled into something similar that I've never heard of before. Once again this is my thought about it.**

I copied this from my Dream Journal.  I believe my mind misinterpreted some of the dream and I've been trying to figure out what it is that I misinterperted.  I'm at loss, because I don't know where to start looking, who to ask, or what to start thinking about to try to solve the mystery.

Sorry about the length, I would appreciate any replies
James

Souljah333, Your thoughts parallel very closely to mine.  It is the thoughts that you have presented that I have had before that drive me towards something like breatharian type ideas, "astral projecting"(obes phasing whichever name suits you).  It's the idea that perhaps as humans we have all assumed to much and these assumptions are what limit us.  I'm currently in search of what the Truth.  I want to find it for myself, I don't want to just go off assumptions anymore.  It seems strange to me that some people starve and others can live without food.  Maybe some people would say well the latter are lying and are sneaking food.   But to me that makes little sense because they are doing it for themselves and not to tell you  "look I'm not eating".   I'd have to say I don't know what the limits of our abilities are and I would like to keep pushing and pushing the limits until I find out.  I'm not worried about dying in the process.  Perhaps, one day we can either find an absolute limit or perhaps we will find that there isn't one.  these are the two possiblities I see... or perhaps there is a third, etc.  

anyways enough rambling,
James

what does that mean? I have next to no knowledge of latin. haha

I'd have to say this topic took off.  I don't know for sure whether or not a human body can go with out food for that long.  However, I think it may be possible... I've never really fasted before even... but I've gone for most of a weekend without food.  I don't know why people do it.  I know why if I chose to try this would be to show myself this world is more like a dream... or I was thinking the other day.   When I wake up in a dream, I can have control of the dream if I stay lucid.  So if this is so why not the same for this part of life.  Perhaps some people may see that as silly logic.  I would say that for me it's not so important if I chose to try this and succeeded that I didn't eat but rather that I would have the choice as to if I wanted to or not.

Hello,

So I recently found a free e-book (can be found at www.breatharian.info) about breatharianism, the idea that you can live without food and I would also suppose water.  The idea stems from the idea that eating is simply an addiction and because of this you can slowly ween yourself off.  Now, I'm not saying I KNOW this is true.  I'm open minded to it and have been reading this book.  To me biologically at the level we are at scientifically, I can understand how it would work, granted I only have 2 college semesters of Biology.  If anyone with more back ground as a doctor or biology type person would like to share their opinion I would like to hear it.  But the Author's Explaination is very Esoteric in Nature and seems to be just fine from that stand point.  The Author also claims having been a non eater or Breatharian... basically, He didn't eat between sept 2001 and march 2003.  The Book is just a way to show you how you could if you wanted be able to achieve this.  

Disclaimer:
Now I will say read this with common sense and don't just stop eating.  The Author himself advises not to just suddently stop eating.  

Any opinions are welcome.

James

I don't know if this is always true OrionsDream.  I noticed that when I was in middle school and in high school... I was able to be friends with who I wanted to be.  I had friends from many different "groups" or types if you really want to classifiy people.  I found the "geeks" so to say interesting in one way, ( I will say that I am in alot of ways like a geek but am more than that).  But not only that I had friends who played sports, and friends of just about all types.  And I rarely noticed anyone picking on me and if I did I just let it pass taking little offense.  Because of that type of attitude I rarely ever got picked on or was made fun of.  I was somewhat unsocial outside of school, mostly because I chose to be.  So to say that you should be friends with only popular people may only limit you.  I would say it's more enjoyable to be friends with whoever wishes to call themself a friend.  

James

Hello Gandalf,

I haven't studied Nostrodomus too much... or theories of parallel universes.  But as an open thinker parallel Universes (where events happen differently) could be a possibility for why Nostrodomus made "errors." Or he could just be wrong.  I would actually like to hear what you think.  I realise this is a little off topic but it goes with the previous few posts, sorry for devianting more.

James

IequalMC2,

you have a very strange way of saying things... It sounds like you're trying to translate thought into words and some words don't due thought justice.

James

I had much better results last night with track 3.  I believe I made it to a true F10... it was neat feeling to say the least, with my body actually asleep and my mind still awake.

Time Traveler, it's still too early for me to give you a good idea.  They seem so far to be really good.  And I've heard recommendations from others.  But you don't need them to phase.  As for myself, I've not used them enough to have a good enough opinion for you.  But I'll post when I do.

James

Hello,

I'm going to school in college station.  I was wondering if anyone else on the forums happened to live in this area or nearby.

James

The Gateway series.  They teach you how to reach different focus levels that the Monroe Institute teaches.

Hello,

I got the hemi-sync cds and have tried the first couple tracks atleast 2 times each.  The strange result I keep having is I tend to black out or just fall completely unconscious for 5-10 minutes.  I'm not completely sure how long it is.  But I always wake up before the track ends.  It's the strangest kind of losing consciousness, because I'm awake one moment and the next thing I know I'm awake again and don't know how I fell asleep.  It's kind of strange has anyone else had this happen to them while listening to these or while just practicing going out of body or phasing?

Hello

I just saw a show on SciFi about that guy David Morehouse... demonstrating remote viewing. Kind of interesting.  I wonder myself how good his classes are.  the results were pretty good.

James

sure

do I get a cookie if I say space balls?

I come from the same background also... I'm currently 18. I read all 3 of Robert Monroe's books in a month about 6 months ago. and I've been moving towards finding whatever it is that is truth.  my idea is I want to learn what is the truth and not what people make it. I'm not advanced enough to help you really with your questions.  

James

knightlight, how do you manage to keep your eyes from moving.  I've asked this many times before but perhaps you'll have a better answer.  I always tend to start to "phase" or see other parts of reality only to find myself try to focus then losing it because my eyes move.

that's an nice experience.  makes me want to practice more.

I agree with you Hans, I don't want to find out what people think.  I want to find out what's really out there.  I've found that robert monroe and a few others really attempt this.  I have very little experience yet.  but I'm working on trying to reproduce what I hear about here on the forums with phasing and such.  I think there may be more than we think out there that would be very interested in this.  but I could be wrong I have been in the past and will be in the future.

James

after thinking about it perhaps it is your first conculsion I remember that I've flown more than the average person... especially when I was really young... between birth and 5.  so perhaps that damaged my ears slightly.  However, I do know that I have good enough hearing to hear high pitched noises of electronic devices.  So that's what leads me to think it's not my actual hearing itself.  It could be your second conculsion but I don't think I can prove it yet... however that noise is there whenever the room is completely quite.  I know when it's there because I'll check to make sure it's not from some house hold appliance or anything and it isn't.  I'm not sure what other conclusions could be made about that though.  Have you experienced anything like what I said about seeing certain "blobs" or anything like that? I have no real knowledge as to if it's connected to non-physical things or if it's just my mind playing a trick on me and it could be with both of these cases but then other people are being tricked the same way.

are you sure it's hearing damage?, because I've heard it as long as I can remember.

does anyone know?

I've got two questions.  I've wondered what this is... I was riding in a car today when I realized that directly infront of me I could see random blobs or shapes seeming to move forward they seemed to be of a translucent grayish purple color and the entire of the shapes together were of a circular shape with the shapes going to the middle to seem to be going forward... Is this an optical illusion or does anyone know what it is?

Second Question... Some people hear very high pitched hums, myself and friend include, although I've asked others if they hear it and not all do.  My grandpa told me it was simply something that my family heard alluding to it is a genetic thing, yet my friend hears it.  It is the high pitched noise that is heard best when there is no sound at all.  although, if I focus on it I can hear it.  Is my brain making this up or do other people know what I'm talking about?

Just two questions I was thinking about today... if you have any ideas post them.  

James

true... but what good are guns when the government has the wrong impression.  I mean this was hopefully simply a misunderstanding.  But you never know.