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#26
Hey Major Tom,

The idea that bodies are a habit of the mnd is a valid one and basically, I think, it can't be disputed. Nor is the physical body exempt if we accept the reality for example of remote viewing.

In fact, there's no reason to stop there. Since consciousness can be a point with no dimensions, that consciousness is only affected by the environment insofar as it accepts it's reality. It can't be affected in any way by it if it chooses not to be. The environment is a habit of the mind as well.

What you're left with is that we are a point of consciousness with no dimensions adrift in a void with no boundaries. The response to that after a while would be: let's get some warm bodies in a smokey bar going.

Basically in my opinion, phasing is a regressive re-creation while projecting is a progressive co-creation. But y'all take that with a hefty dose of salt and I reserve the right to change my opinion without notice.
#27
Thanks for the kind welcome Mark. Yes it's not something you easily forget.
#28
This is an interesting thread.  The book that Adrian provided a link for in the sticky subject, Max Heindel's "Cosmo Conception" is a source of a lot of information on the subject. Much of it is based on Egyptian tradition.

I go along with Heindel's idea that the body used in the RTZ is actually the spiritual part of the etheric body. The RTZ body, at the time of projection, is not generated as a copy of the physical exactly but is divided from the etheric body. One part, the most physical or "gross" part, stays with the physical to provide the necessary vital impetus to keep it alive and a part of consciousness stays with it as well.

The more spiritual or "volatile" part, is divided from the gross and provides the vehicle to explore the corresponding manifestation of the world.

According to Heindel's mythology, man arrived at his present physical state through the help of higher beings who interceded at different times during involution to produce a separation of the vehicle that was most highly developed at the time, this separation being necessary for further evolution of the indwelling spirit.

According to that system, humanity is now at a stage where we must take our own evolution in hand and the separation of the etheric body, an almost exact duplicate of the beautifully evolved and efficient physical body, is our objective. This will allow a step by step ascending of the priciples of this body which represents our individuality into ever higher spheres of action.

I think that phasing is possibly a direct means of accessing the astral, bypassing the etheric step. Personally, I don't think it's a good idea to skip that step. In effect, it is a renouncing of our Earth heritage which is a source of enormous power in all other dimensions.

That is, not the body but the principle of the body which is a highly evolved, painfully aquired vehicle for the Ego. I think that principle still remains when phasing but it's much weaker.

Feel free to tear all this apart if you like.

#29
"They are hearing their leaders talk in fancy words which have little actual meaning to them but sound so impressive. That is why we present some of the same for your consideration at this juncture"

I think this rather tongue in cheek introduction is appropriate here, altho the piece is worth a read. I get a visual of Laszlo throwing a big tough bone to his intended audience's intellect so it'll be too busy gnawing to object when it sees the yogi move the mountain.  And so "...when not repressed by left-hemispheric censors {Logical 'denial'.}, the signals could penetrate to consciousness."


Anyway it sounds to me like a thrashing about for a "scientifically" acceptable definition of the word; and validation of the concept of;  "soul".

God help us all if the scientific community gets a handle on that concept without a concomitant spiritual maturity being acheived in society as a whole.

Thanks for posting this Robert, quite interesting.