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I woke up aware of breathing lessons again in the teaching realm
with Shiva and Kuthumi . We are taught to breath up red and blue cobras of kundalini with pranic breath thru a pegs . These pegs are smaller immature tan tiens . The effect is to imbibe the body with light and air to elevate consciousness and to heal the body sustaining the pranic breath more fully in the framework and to relieve the suffering of the kundalini to slow it down so that the flame is brought into balance with growth in self . It is only through a thorough integration of the lessons of love in our life that we can continue to grow .

As we visualized and manifested the gold and black pegs we saw ourself on the crucifix nailed . Then as the red and blue cobras of electric and magnetic fluid ascend the lattice we saw ourselves as dead within the Egyptian sarcophagus . As the cobras come to the top they are born and the body rises in the sarcophagus in a gentle levitation symbolic of conquering suffering and death .

When the red and blue cobras became manifested in the crown the two eyes of the cobra opened a bit painfully as if light entering the eyes on a bright summer day after leaving the dark theatre . The left eye is cyan the right eye is red they look like jewels emerald and ruby .  The mystic can dwell within these eyes for a short time . The green one is the past . the red one is the future .These eyes appear on the energy body on either side of the head . The eye slits are about 10 cm long .



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As I practiced these lessons I became aware of projecting out of my body in a plane not up and out like a line thru the ceiling but as a sheet of paper . I intuit this type of projection will sustain the image better allowing others to see you in RTZ if you choose . That is to learn to project the image of self to another that is clairvoyant and awake in a real time in another place .

[Cobra Assembly]

A.References to previous lessons-
1. Cobra Assembly
Sunday Night we projected to the heart chamber of God in the Great Pyramid where we shed our human skin and become a full cobra .We assembled in Astral as golden king cobras .We each had the face floating in the mouth with our eyes rolled back of our heads . We sank our heads down to the ankles . (Rising the kundalini means sinking our egos )

2. The unbirthing
In a meditative vision I see myself swim into Bill and come out as a full cobra at his head . I flop out like a fish . My arms become turtle arms and i stand upon my hands then  fall into a puddle of jelly .

3 Preview -Jodi Dreamed Monday night April 18th
cath in pool turned into jelly
and swirling around like a vortex clockwise
out of centre cobra head came and she said don't laugh then  
i heard you say you have to do this too !

4-Mother Cobra wakes the children -Monday night i went to each home this morning projecting there to say "wake the cobras" -wake up the children and i appeared as a golden black -snake cobra . When I awoke i taught cobra breaths to Jodi and Andrew .

5-Dragon Wings at andrews home he was angry he got stuck ,he screamed you are not listening when i suggest that he just turn around but he screamed again
he was in pain emotional and spiritual .He had ripped his hands through his lungs and pushed his arms out . I said don't worry Andrew it is just spirit go one and turn yourself around . But he yelled again saying i have something to say listen to me.

6- Demonic Self Begins I feel now after talking to Jodi that Andrew means to help us make the wings emerge and she must make-the arms come out of the heart -We have an image of kurma with turtle leg like hands -coming out of a turtle shell / back of cobra head skirt-i feel we must move quickly to become the dragon ourselves -we ascended to a heart chamber of god
koothumi and khali.

7. Divine mother and son relationship . He unbirthed  into my uterus and crawls up as light into  my right ovary.Then comes to my left breast calls me mother . Then he  bites  the head off of the other cobra in the urn  which breaks my heart as he burst through it .in two and I die –He hands me a pyramid with the red sunset I go into the chamber of God and lie upon the magenta lotus blossum . I see a candle  the flame floats off and comes into me .The divine spark comes to impregnate me  in the chamber of God's heart -the immaculate conception . These visions are roles of the divine dance and teach us about the creation of life and help us to fashion the divine vessel for our body in our next life .

8 Cobra breath The male cobra came out doing a breath of two streams in red and blue one  to each nostril quickly small ones to the back hold the breath but  wrap it around to go to the next energy centre and draw in again each two breaths punctuated by a look to will and view its risiing

Pre Lesson 29th Uraeus Event
any symptoms of the uraeus event ?
just nuisances in bowels and another leap in consciousness
i have birthed a large cobra which remains  erect  over my pelvis there is still more to do
i intuit they will be a silver and gold smaller immature cobras facing each other  they seem like chicks at an egg now
the back of the uterus still is sore
i feel we have not completed this event yet
The male cobra came out doing a breath of two streams in red and blue quickly small ones to the back and then wrap around to go to the next energy centre and draw in again each two breaths punctuated by a look to will and view its rising
the silver one came out of my head
the gold one descended from my head to my lower tan tien and then remained erect there are 5 above and below now
the ones in the heart have just made a peck out with tails for now
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did you know that we will look like a demon on one side like Azura isn't that a paradox ?
the energy body is going to change from vishnu god form a divinity with cbra and garuda and turtle
to a Baphomet form of demon ram, dragon and bull . i saw it in a vision and i have seen it in my mates
i thought whoa and it unwrapped my mind
then i found this alchemist article
about the christ consciousness and the kundalini
saw the image it was confiming
first a five cobra and garuda plumed head
a heart chamber which is also garuda plumed and maked an urn around the heart front and back
in the front coins were falling signifying abundance
in the back milk and honey the reciprocal
as we recieve we must leave also behind in our wake
two divine arms as cobras around the heart
four pairs of arms as turtle on either side becoming vishnu arms of the godhead
the huge hooded cobra erect at the male tan tien when flacid looks like a modest skirt of snakeskin
it is also the turtle shell of khurma vishnu
it has immature cobras hanging from it
wait
but from the back the hood is gone and rams horns appear waving like khnomn or baphomet
and wings of the cobra become dragon wings but look demonic soon
our legs as vishnu have plumes coloured rainbow around them
but
then they become cloven hooves
with spurs behind the knee
it is all about being calm in the eye of the storm
going from the vishnu god to the minotaur demon  with wings  isn't that radical
and then it will change again we will have to become god again
auntcl with 7 cobras
and then 9
i have had so MANY visions today
i feel lost
my ego has fallen to my feet and i want only to move as fast as i can and get past the demonic look quickly
i have not become demon yet
i am divine still
it is hard to imagine why god would want us to go from god to demon and make ourselves back to God
it is a strange unexpected stage for me
i learned that the heavy tail of the serpent is for exputrification
we have to stand in our own truth despite appearence
we have to then use all we learned to transform from the demon look to the divine again
it is a short time the divinity
we have to stand calm in the eye of the storm of kundalini
there will be a 4th stone a green one
we have to make 3 chakras too
and the lessons are not 3 times a week now
they are 3 to 5 times a day
i find it hard to grasp
i walk and i am in the universal mind
i drive and i am gone i feel it is a bit dangerous i must learn control , i am not here not really
last night we went.... you came too
my circle and you were there
with khali and koothumi to a chamber called God's heart
when we got there we were all king cobras our entire body black and gold
no queens or princesses any more
our human head was in our cobra mouth rolling around eyes rolled back in head
we fell down to our ankles our human shape and became the cobra instead
i also had to go to every one's home
wake them up as a cobra
i had to go into the father's  hole as light  and swim as sperm dont laugh it was bizarre and part of the magic -The father was Bill V the leader alpha male of the group
and i had to become a cobra inside him and come out of his head
the real one on his shoulders
like the birth of Athena  from Zeus 's head
i had to be born of a man
fell out like jelly , like a fish flopping gasping for air,I slinked away like a snake
down his stomach  while he slept
anyway i was like water not human not cobra a puddle
then i grabbed his feet and became a turtle
go figure
so i made my hands become his feet
and i was khurma
a male manifestation of vishnu again
i had 8 turtle arms
do cobras eat their young or bite a head off each other ?
you just raped me then killed me and i am still alive  
you came here as a cobra rushed up into me
i feel that is the unbirth of you too
you went into the ovary again
as if you were not born either
like when i went up the father of the group
so this was not really coitus or sex
it was more of unsex
the unbirth
but then the wierdest part is you embraced my heart and ripped something out of me which looked like another cobra a baby one
you bit its head off
and slithered away after you broke my heart
this is all btw about the divine uniosn and not just marriage but the son unbirths mother
the daughter unbirths father
the the children come before the mother
the mother comes pregnant before the father comes to her chamber wihtout sex
then they have sex afterwards
let me look again
hang on the demon we become is also an unbirth it is the demon we are no longer
we were told that the gaping maw of hell which is gorgeous now
can quickly become teeth and leech mout suckers again like a toilet bowl and flush our light awy
but interestingly the upper tan tien god said once brightened can never become dark
it may see the dark pass know it for what it is
but is cannot be darkened
you have a gardland of vishnu round you neck like sai baba
you have many arms make self still please i will count
can you please stand up in da vinci pose adn turn your back to me i am having trouble projecting there to turn around too many distractions here at home
i am there i made it i saw you sitting down when i came
i am having trouble bi locating
i have to slip back and forth
i feel it is the disequilibrium of all this energy work these three days it will be much stronger soon
you have no demon tail yet
you do have dragon wings
you do have the collar which is the serpent scares on the back of the neck
i would like you please to stand facing me with arms up in da vinci pose again
you have two cobras coming out of your heart they seem to be fighting each other
one is silver one golden the female wants the male spot and the male wants to go to the female side wierd they are thus crossed writihing and hissing
you have 8 arms four on either side
they are not working yet they look stiff
you have 5 cobras at the top the full hood is not there yet it is coming in though
curiously you do not have the cobra out of the lower tan tien
this is needing to come out with what is called a cobra breath , kuthumi and vishnu taught me
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you came as a large full cobra your whole body as a cobra
i need to see you as the man with the energy body
i want to examine the dan tien the lower tan tien and the upper tan tien
you give me a replica of the great pyramid with the sun red and blazing behind it like a toy a model 3 D
you have the garland of vishnu
your heart snakes are not fighting they are strong now erect and regal
you have a vishnu skirt on
no cobra in the lower tain tien though
there are 8 arms four each side
these are like the ribs that hold the cobra hood erect too
nd 5 cobra heads above and wings already coming out back
you are changing from divine to dragon
the demon comes after the dragon
the turtle cobra dragon vishnu garuda you are now
it is not tantric sex
just breathing and will magic
it actually doesnt come up that is the trick
you have to find out where it is hidden first
it may be in nesting in the upper tan tien as mine was and need to be coaxed down
it may be nesting in the heart dan tien and need to be coaxed down
or it may be in the groin lower tan tien and you need to open it out
it hurts a bit if you are sensitive
andrew did not notice his as it came out last night as he slept
but the ladies have noticed it
it is hard to make a phallic snake from a woman i suppose
the male has a head start in that dept
the cobra breath is first to go in ones own body as a speck of light or a small snake
and then go up and down the tan tiens to find the sleeping one
then you call to it with your will and tell it to rise in the lower tan tien
then you help it .it will want to come out once awakened
it will be restless
you draw two cord breaths
you visualise red and blue cords
the magnetic left and red right coming thru each tan tien and chakra on the path
these two lines of sharp short punctuated breaths are not full ones
but tiny ones so that you can move down or up the spine holding each successive one as far as you can
you draw in then wrap the energy round to next spot just like a cobra skin on the body
then you holding breath continue
when you have to exhale do it slowly with control not fully letting go of the cobra I followed you to the Queens Chamber  the gaping maw is there again
and it is not hot it is burning cold
my skin burns here
an old lady comes out of hell
she kisses my hands she has on gray robes
she is an illuminati
she says dont be afraid child
she takes me by the hand
she says come to the bridal chamber now
the stork is here
now thoth
he lays me down to prepare me for death
he lays me on the stone slab in the chamber of the heart
auntclair (1:15:01 AM): he performs a c-section
and lifts my child up to the sky
he says behold
this is the redeemer
this is the divine one - we must each make divine children
where has been your fear ?
what has been written has happened it is it shall be it always was
and you shall call her daughter
( amaythea ) am agatha ( ah ma ga thee ah ) which means the bitter fruit made sweet wine
or the transformative child
i am not sure on this bit
he says behold the bridgegroom
he comes to you now
it is garuda here though
i am taken up flying to another chamber
i am weeping  i am lost
this is a place that is unseen this is a place seen only by the eye of god
it is indigo it is dark
it is warm it is the other side of the great chamber of god
i said i will not have concourse in front of the gaping maw
i was taken out of the chamber and flown back in the other door still alone
i come to the eye of god
and walk in alone regal dressed in white robes not as the cobra
not as a queen either  as a woman only myself
in white modest unbecoming dress plain
i wear the garland of vishnu
i lay down on a lotus blossom
there is only one candle here
the flower is female rose magenta the light is indigo male there is one divine spark of god one golden chance
i will not become the demon
i am told there are many variations on this path
i am the divine mum in this role

B.Notes last lesson-20 April  30th lesson Wednesday
Bill Tom Andrew  Lynda Jodi  Maggie Cath
Long lesson revising Sunday night Monday Tuesday and Wed am

Purple fissure golden go in see the chamber of God go into God's eye and have private mediation .Then we looked at the energy body as we emerged and closed it was a long lesson short meditation this time :

Bill has no child .He is our father  . I had to unbirth from his head  as daughter from the father .He got fists of God in his heart and a saphhire egg in his heart and a necklace of turtle skulls round his neck .
A turtle shield 7 huge cobras above and below feathers of Garuda 5 cobras in dan tien middle.He has massive spikes disappearing from dragon scales .The bull and goat legs gone horns gone already too .He had weapons . The tail is nearly gone too .

Tom is priest celibate -no child .He will marry the prince to princess .
He has the face of sai baba and flower blossoms in urn in his heart the peacock fleathers are christ not garuda -next life female India ? . He has a pope's hat over naval and golden staff .He has 5 cobras 2 at heart and 5 at naval. He is losing tail and hooves too .

Andrew is the prince. He  becomes the God in divine marriage to Jodi .He has a blue sapphire egg in his throat with trifold flames of liquid pouring out .He has a urn pouring over his head of blue and red – 5 cobras above 5 below -Wings softer now , rams horns and spikes on back of knee with cloven heels .

Lynda asexual division from a lotus blossom came her divine baby  in her heart chamber in the  urn of garuda . There was a garland of Vishnu around her neck and her cobra hands were clasped in namaste in peace and bliss .The baby in her urn from herself as a flower came from devotion a fountain in her urn . A small hump over tail is now fading .

Jodi divine union with Andrew and also shot flame off candle in God's heart . She shot the flame off the candle with a bow of artemis . She got a trident from shiva . She has 5 above 5 below .5 cobras above and below soft swan wings no evidence of demon . She has the bottom cobra eating ivy . She has a trident of shiva and bows of artemis
Life in pleiades with andrew .

Maggie a reptilian embryo floating in fluid  in a crystal flower vessel given to her by god and goddess of reptiles and  placed in her uterus .The divine spark placed in third eye  .God's fist half reptiles skeleton golden male half on left is female fresh blue young She has dragon fly wings and mirror instead of shield to see past and future on her back .

Catherine divine spark as a candle flame  willed to come to  float off of the candle . Baby delivered before conception by c-section by Thoth .
7 cobras above head 2 hanging down 7 erect at naval 7 at heart  coins in garuda urn. Milk and honey in the back .6 wings with eyes of eternity on them and garland of vishnu .3 rings of garuda plumes head chest hips –violet bar above head ??

additional days   :
C.Notes regarding last lesson
Billy boy - one cobra on belly ,garlands around neck and waist, two cobras gold and siver fully mature at heart and bald eagle on head. Cape at back with wings .

Debbie the maiden –3 large above head 2 falling down as earrings . Ganeesha as your fountain in the urn of garuda around heart . Double Circlet of Garuda at naval and 3 cobras there 2 flacid still soft butterfly wings behind .No evidence of becoming demonic at all . The innocent one .

Is this a reflexion on spirit beast and animals like that... If it does, then I get what your saying...

Yes for example to visualise and manifest yourself to become a heron
is to stand placidly amidst a storm as the observer and not becoming emotional or taking on new karma by your reactions .The rub is to recall the magic and not react with base physical emotions yourself . It is fine to have the lessons harder to recall to use them lol .

Also... do you know what a 'Shenlong' is? I believe it is my spirit beast, a large gold one... so far he has been my friend...What does it mean for me to have one?(Shenlong means "God Dragon" in Chinese...)

The God or Gold Dragon is another manifestation of kundalini energy as in the rising of the Golden King Cobra which appears  during a stage of devloping greater consciousness on the path to enlightenment . By coincidence a mate of mine had a gold and black pharoah regaled golden cobra rise above his crown yesterday . Interestingly the energy  appeared as Silver Blue striped Queen Cobra on the females that i have witnessed  but later both cobras becomes the colour of the mystic's energy . So if the mystic has a signature colour of violet like the alchemist . The cobra will be violet also . These are manifestations of the energy body and can be witnessed clairvoyantly .

The Shenlong is not always described as the golden dragon it is  also the blend of the magnetic female energy of water and air is called the spirit that rules the wind and air in this aspect it is  the female embodiment of the elements hermetically . But in Chinese mythology it is the male serpent ?!?

http://www.answers.com/topic/shenlong-WikipediaShenlong :Shenlong (?_—´) is a Chinese spiritual dragon that controls wind and rain.It is thought that Shenlong (or Shenron), the wish-granting dragon of the manga and anime Dragon Ball, is very loosely based on him.Also see Dilong:Dilong This article is on the Chinese dragon. There is also an article on the feathered dinosaur, Dilong paradoxus. In Chinese mythology, Dilong or Ti-Lung ('n—´; pinyin: di4 long2) are earth dragons whose task it is to preside over rivers and streams. According to some accounts, they are the female counterpart of the Shenlong and they fly only in order to mate.[/quote
//http://www.mythicalrealm.com/creatures/chinese_dragon.html


I suggest to you that the gold dragon is a goal for you to achieve when it comes to the seeker in dreams and in visions it is a calling for completion .
as it says on :

http://www.aloha.net/~ruth/Caduceus.html
I believe that this raised COBRA is the symbol that a person is a full human being.

Completion of this stage does not mean enlightenment it is another stage another step on the journey . To raise this energy in yourself embark on a regimen of  :
meditation  
energy body work
yogic breathing
projection
and introspection
and most of all integration of the lessons you learn to be a better person
lol that is the hardest bit .

and so it goes ....

Why do you think it was a guide? (Just curious)

Markulous ,
I intuit that he is a guide due to your desciption of Moss .
He does not seem to mirror you in temperment or human attributes .
Does he look like you the same height hair colour face gender ?

I would be happy to give you a reading online in chat room if you like . I offer spiritual readings for free when i am available here is the addy :
http://au.msnusers.com/AuntClairsParlorSpiritualReadingRoom

Yahoo messenger is another place i offer free readings
under the  handle auntclair
on user created reading sites
under religion
and then under other beliefs .

For those who have contacted your Higher Self, what is he/she(it) like?  

When you see the "higher self " of a sitter in a clairvoyant reading  they usually look just like the sitter  except that they are in prime health as a young adult about 28 to 36.They are usually the same gender and original hair colour . They don't usually wear glasses or canes or watches etc . No implements or tools ...They are often dressed in solid colours like a robe effect  . They are often found behind the sitter in a reading in an above  central rear position. When the seeker wants to make contact themselves they can build the antakarana back to the source to be able to ask in the head for advice . This allows one to know if the choice you want to make is for your greater good for example because the higher self has the whole game plan in front of them . Through spiritual development it is possible to elevate the consciousness of one self and one's higher self and to develop more than one conscious subtle body aspect . It is also possible to pass the higher self in consciousness and become the highest self . But since that higher self dwells in spirit that is hard to do and i feel it is a transitory stage . I feel the higher self moves along as we do and can if we pass them pass us again as we progress . We are all learning as we sleep in nighttime projections to teaching realms . The higher self is the part that is not physical and is usually most aware and closest to the Godhead .And is it possible through Lucid Dreaming or only when I am having an OBE?

Because I was lucid dreaming, and decided to ask for my Higher Self and this room appeared that was all white.  And this person appeared (he looked kinda like Harry Potter with blonde hair and without glasses, he even acted British).  I asked "are you my higher self"?  He said "yes I am".  I asked his name and he said Moss.  Then he said "why have you contacted me"?  I said "Just for some general advice and to see if there is anything I should be doing."  He said, "No."  I was kinda confused why he would say no, so I said, "why not?".  Then he started to saying something about animal scents and I couldn't maintain the lucid dream anymore because of wasting too much time beforehand(before I asked for my higher self).

...this sounds like a guide instead .

1 AM Sunday  
Jodi and Catherine "Snake Preview "
In the hot tub I was shown how to make a double pranic knot
through each tan tien
And then told to make a double pranic knot through each chakra
As I breathed I heard this rumble like energy
A thunder in my ears so loud I felt others must hear it
This is not stomach gas
It doesn't feel or sound like it
It is energy it can be felt only in the space between the chakras
and only between the one being breathed and the one below it
It is like the sound of thunder rumbling inside of you
and it is both exciting and intimidating
With each breath the cobra thick as an arm comes up
and you can see the head inside yourself clairvoyantly
It comes up one notch and there it rests
until we breathe the knot again
When it rose to the top
A gash appeared on the left side of the head
that was about 12 cm long and 5 wide
it felt bizarre like a flap had unfolded and an eye was emerging
The cobra poked its head out
and then sank wriggling down to the nest
How disappointing
I intuit I must raise it again until it I am strong enough to sustain it
And that the other will come out of the right side
Will there be 2 silver above or one silver one gold
That I am not sure
2.pm
Jesus appeared showed us the Christ consciousness
is in the Matsya and Azura story
where Vishnu became the fish the redeemer the saviour of the people
Yahweh like Krishna the merciful God will save the people
And the flood in the story like Noah's Ark but here the enemy demon wants to flood the world not God
And here God says to the faithful fishmerman to bring one of each plant and seed not animals into the boat
But the floods are stopped and the world is saved
The demon seen in my friends room was Azura the hater of humanity
The great deceiver seducer and an evil aspect of his androgenous flower goddess form which is so loving

2nd time :Guest another  Karen lol
and Catherine Bill Lynda Jodi Maggie Debbie
pranic breathing
red in right hot electric
blue in left cold magnetic
2 pranic knots of breath at each tan tien
the spheres in front hold the two together too
as we take the double prana knot
you hear the bubbles
and feel them rising churning as the snake rises
one can feel it like thunder in the belly and then the spine
there is an urge to rid one self
to birth it like a baby and be done
but it continues so  long
a wound opened on the left side of the head
but the cobra did not come out
it only poked her head out to have a look
and went back all the way back down to the nest

Visions about the pranic breath from Kuthumi
breathed in up each chakra both pranic knots
we can breathe four pranic knots around each tan one for each element
around each chakra too
we can breathe in red and blue elec or magnetic
or we can breathe is all red
all blue
or all one element
or all four  
white eagle paul jesus
purple fissure gold trim
matsya vishnu , ganeesha , azura H
bubbles in the breathing
wafting up and down with each breath
a force like an elevator pully system
vishnu said to come to the water to be cleansed
in a font we did
he gave us a saftey knife lol
like the free plastic ones to open kiwi fruit  
yellow palm size wihout a blade
fir the cobra to rise you must breathe it up
for the cobra to rise you must open your consciousness up
raise it and slice open your mind
and allow the cobra to come free

what do you worry about ?
to whom shall you give your lessons ?
are they evil ?
are they going to use the power for naught ?
Is not God the greatest  farmer ?

And how does the farmer feed his chooks
the farmer feeds the chooks corn
when he sees the  crow  eat his chick feed
he does not stop feeding the chooks
he throws more corn
and so must we
so we must not worry about who gets the lesson
or if they are not with the light
or if they have no faith
feed all
and let the universe sort it out
he said look at both sides of the coin
all are worthy of the compassion and love  
azura rotated right then left becoming the demure androgenous one
on a flower and back to the demon again one a male ashen indigo
one a female with long violet red pink hair and flowers
said he was both sides of the coin
Bill told us we have to continue to work with each one
love every one not give up on anyone
fountain there we cleansed self
ganeesha squirted us with his trunk
playfully taking water up from the fountain of the baptismal font
vishnu said the universe was testing the cake by putting a fork in it  
3 doors opened past present future
one all past lifes  and scrolls
had private messages
saw our lives together before
I saw Vishnu he showed me
faith is the bucket
love is the water
god will draw up the bucket
and shatter the vessel if it does not produce water
(or use it again if it does )
but he does not hate the well
he just tries again

John the baptist gave 13th pillar down right shoulder
and 14th down the left
one red one blue
we felt only the right
perhaps we were supposed to hear the one on the left instead
and only see feel the one on the right
is the lesson we only feel what we see ?
wondered if he meant the other is coming a vision of it not sure
He touched our right ear and waves of gold blue pink and green came out
He said learn to hear light and see sound
He opened his hand like sai baba and manifested water
The other hand manifested fire
He poured these into a sword
And made it golden
And then said do not worry who comes that is not of god
They can not come if they are not worthy
This cobra will not rise in one who has not been baptised in fire and water
Then he plunged this caduceus sword down our chakra column and the snake was heard to rumble in the belly again

Friday 15th April 24th Lesson Cath Bill Lynda Jodi

We decided to practice Kriya Yoga Breathing technique in class
male :down spin up crown x 18
then female : up spine  down base
each animal emerged as a snake of hermetic colour
these snakes became the nest
we made a large egg
guardian angels  placed it in the nest
we finished the nest and came thru remaining of the animals x18
but came out of last one as the cobra
as the silver serpent in its trunk stayed the cobra
made the gold cobra aura rhythm breathing into it out of it
went into the egg made divine sparks
then stayed in egg as universal mind came out
Buddha appeared blue and old full bodied this time
he put his hands in each heart and twisted it
put his hands on our head
and made a dome shaped hat
come over our ears
we saw him strap it under our chin
then he said when the sound an light come together
in the great storm of the kundalini
as lightning and thunder
it will make the unprepared be insane
but we will be safe silent lucidity silent serenity
saw a gateway
an aqua horse a new journey
saw 4 horseman of the apocalypse riding away
came out went up into door into the jacob ladder of fire up to the realm
saw king of devas saw chronos saw Vishnu as a 4 armed fish tailed god with short snake like appendages coming out of fish tail
This was Vishnu as Matsya the demon slayer and saviour of the world
this deity held the table upon the shoulder
showed us the table must be lifted up with sound
and pass thru the next ceiling of the next realm the great ohm
showed us the rainbow sphere had a four flame heart
each chakra not 4 orbed but 4 twists of a braid I think
like trifold flame and green one too braided in
we saw the angel Gabriel appear to bill gave him a flower
became a crown said the choice is his
and touched his head with a finger
he will give the message to him  personally and in dreams
and then Gabriel faced us all
and gave the three ladies white shaped hearts
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visions in personal meditation
From 4 hermetic colours  the cobra emerges as silver fat like the mother of the nest  it stands erect for a moment  then the children of the snake fall down like beautiful coloured hair as long as the shoulders
They writhe out with sound and they form something new i feel it is again to do with the outer and inner manifestations of the energy body  the outer being the merkaba or its greater aspect not yet revealed .

It has to do with lunar clock  and with the music of the spheres , the celestial dance and sound and light coming together as lignthing and
thunder in a storm of kundalini as heat and rain as pure divine love the perfect blend .

The cobra itself comes out of the head the fat silvered one of akasha
it embraces the heart in a necklace that covers the shoulder emblemic
it sits there a while too  another stage .Then another comes up at the chest is it the same one ?or the second i am not sure .

The culmination is two though  two large snakes then black again  like cobras king and queen facing out from the mystic  and thick as a mans leg the head huge as the body is on a human thoracic cavity .

I feel that the two cobras will come out of the tan tien and dance upon the heart of the mystic  and then become as one wills an extension of the energy body . This lesson is  an upward spiral another level  as the two lions did once .

The heart is in a circuit of prana which is magnetic and electric .I saw red and blue stripes of prana moving in two seperate spirals  of 8  one of infinity one of eternity .Now the orbs generated four cones of pranic energy self sustaing  will begin the "immortal body" which is not truly immortal in the physical but regenerates the mystic and prolongs
health life love .

Now then the two other cones  are like unto an hourglass above and below the heart  all of these orbs and cones from them are extensions of
the heart .I  go into your heart chamber then i looked down and saw the lower tan tien  transforming in front of me .From what is called the gaping maw of hell into a geoconcentric tunnel of wondrous rainbow light in l 4 jewel tone hermeitc colours and quite stunning .I wish i could draw it i will try .

I went to the upper chamber .I saw the upper tan tien the third eye female caput has not changed enough yet  it will though .It is transforming now  becoming the heart of the redeemer I saw symbolically the people of the earth the unaware ones reaching up to God  and recieving hope .They were in a sea a surf of energy body colours that
were all violet still in nature violets and indigos .I intuit they should become rainbow too  but for now they are compassionate .I saw SOS
I heard  save our souls this is  the heart of the compassionate redeemer .

Christ energy in the higher tan tien  and a buddhic energy in the lower tan tien .Centre is the universal mind in the anu dan tien in the
mystics heart is the universal mind .I  hold two threads they were like veins and artieries  red and blue like magnetic and electric .I was  told to hold onto them wrap them around my waist my solar plexus actually and be tethered . I understand this to mean that we will be able to stay
longer absorb more if we balance self in the centre  and if we go as two we are holding the window open in balance for another for this stage .

The glorous golden body is cloaked in moon light look and find it . I did
i saw it beneath in a robe of moon like a construct of glowing solid white lines  by wrapping sound around the energy body like infrared sight and x ray sight together ,The eye of eternity is not fully open we will see much better soon .

I feel the cobras must become golden too btw  silver  white black  both black : both golden : not all steps known to me yet

the contnets of the scorll are not all known to me yet
we make the chakras become 4 spheres all of them
not just the 4 orbs as we are begining in the anu heart
chamber abover the heart chakra  but each tan tien and each new tan tien made i intuit 5 are now made in us 5 tain tiens  but we willmanifest more all 7 chakras will be split as 4 too

HE is the odd number SHE is the even
two evens cannot make an odd ever
two odds can make both
it is the x y thing again of the chromosomes
Male must become aqua an easy shift on the colour wheel
if  come to the female as indigo the union is not divine
it is blessed and white
if  come as aqua to the female of magenta  then the union is divine or golden

focus to go past self to  highest self
that is the point of transformation
to ascend oneself one's higher self to become the new highest self
not just to ascend

the female is the magenta but she is is a blend of red and blue
the male is the indigo primary not a secondary if he adds green
which is the medium of sound green air and  blue sound
makes aqua when  aqua added to the female
who is already the blend of magnetic and electric as magenta
their dance culmiates in golden divine light  which is sought
and not in the white noise
which is not perfection but the soup of it all
if the egg is fertilised it is viable and divine and golden
so the man becoming aqua i intuit is like the fertilization
of the egg the female has magenta the male needs aqua
in her completion she is paradoxically incomplete and
cannot fertilise herself

from our right cone on brachial lotus at the upper tan when you breath in and when you exhale it flows out of left cone
but doesnt come out of nose the air does
but he prana is caught like a fish in a net to continue being used

we  make prana too with each breath tiny golden stars
which become bigger in time
as we develope
we  make golden flower of life spheres prana

these come out of hands and feet mainly now
small ones will become much bigger
the breathe of the prana is different than air
it comes into the middle tan tien now
and it is exhaled there in a pranic knot
so right cone in and out left cone under arms then
comes out to the new tan tien in front of anu dan tien
the energy flows  frome the front sphere
then to the rear cone and what is not used excreted
there this is the exputrification

when we learn to bereathe this way well
the other chambers open
and we are more powerful more glorious still
this is a  pranic knot
the knot need to be in all three tan tiens i feel and then
we see the cobra come up

you have opened your heart door to let me in  to look
you tell me that the ejactulation of the male is rainbow
light becoming white but the ejaculation of the male energy is different than the physical you show me now  the sun must come out of the three colurs the golden light yes i know but how ?

i see you show me the female must be in the quarter
moon
congress in each phase of the moon
new is the courting
waxing quarter is the kiss
the half moon is the union tried to get it perfected not fully yet
third quarter absence makes heart grow fonder
full moon is the ectstatic bliss
you hand me keppler clock of the universe
as an urn in a cube in a pyramid in a void in a sphere
the divine spark must occur at the celestial moment

with each breath of the knot we build the new self
the prana inhaled continues to circulate
as wings in your newer large energy lungs
these cones right and left
ventricles of the brachial lotus are the larger capacity
lungs for continuous infusion of light
i see butterly wings ventricles

there are three main knots of breath
there will be a continuous infusion of prana sustaining life
and enlightening the subtle bodies
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The other side of the coin . Lesson 25

I visited a mystic  in RTZ we are peers and mentors to each other .
I told him I could see him and what was in his room but that i could not see the rest of his home could not seem to leave thru doorway or window came thru ceiling as an experiment he had me follow him to yoga class
i saw his energy body and lost track of the room around him .I felt i was in the street and lost his auric sense as he blended into a crowd .I saw him then again as golden rings which became bigger as he spoke to others entering their aura .

I asked him later (online and concurrently bilocating to his room )about the invisibility of the rest of his home . He suggested it might be to
some extent due to his protection and blessing of it. I saw a red warm spot in energy on lower left arm He was aware of it said he had been healing that  mark a wound developed at the start of his path .

I  saw a cup and light flowing in it but no body was holding it. Then I saw my friend become a gorilla at a keyboard with a cup in his hand .Then he was a man with a  towel over his  head and a libation was being poured over his crown  by an ancient jewish high priest in a desert .The gorilla totem means :Family oriented, mother nurturing, intelligent, strength, useful of the enviornment,. I heard old man of the forest an ancient
wise one .The libation was a blessing from Enoch the prophet the towel a blue white striped towel like the flag of israel with a star of David upon it .

He told me Enoch spoke the language of Demons . I said I know him as a
man of love and light only . He said there is no such being ..there is no ultimate love and light ..it is just one side of the coin.

I saw there  a male skinny old teacher indigo ashen in colour .There were four angels near the door they are stern looking i would say warriors.I saw my friend walking across a bridge and about to fall then I  see him hiding on the bridge . I hear refuge.I feel he is  being attacked and that  this is a warning . I see him come to a precipice the bridge ending . He cannot go back he has a decision to make . He has to fly or jump and fall .I see Michael is one of the warrior angels trying to talk to my friend about spiritual protection for the journey .He told him how he is  being watched cared for made safe by angels but that they are aware he does
not call them and caution him that he  should .

But to this my friend says Why ? Michael  says you must learn to call them . I  feel he has no faith in them . He replied " no faith at all" I said ," i  feel you think you can do better yourself and i am so sorry you feel that way "I saw the indigo ashen male was a demon  in the room  black
armour wearing a headpiece like a Samurai warrior . He is not human never was .He is a beast  a male  he is by the window pacing there back and forth .And the angels watch you as your higher self calls them in  they are there .The demon has something sticking out of his nose
his nose is not human pig like with  tusks of a boar.He is Azura the enemy of Matsya . I wonder why the God Vishnu came to my home as the avatar Matsya and the enemy came to my friend's house as his enemy Azura Hayagrivya . What is the lesson here . Is there something i do not understand about the two sides of the coins and the gray edges on them .This is a lesson for me too . I felt safe in this home as a
visitor .But this shows me  he is not aware as i once thought. He  doesn't see him and any entity could come in here .

I said , "You dont have faith in angels or in God or in Jesus or in any Godhead I see an empty vessel the cup the gorilla had is your spirit . You are a good one ..you are a being of light ...and yet without faith you will
be like an empty cup .I have asked for you to be protected this night ". But my friend says ,"why?"I said " to draw faith into your heart from your own truth ."He told me ," do not interfere" "Well then i will not, alhough I have already asked for your sake .

I saw Jesus appear . He showed me his face so clearly and said why are you here daughter ? I said i am coming to the house of the Lord . He told me he would cleanse this home for my faith's sake . But Lord I said why does he not want that . He told me to stay and ponder upon my questions .

So to my friend I said I would not allow anyone to be scourged by a demon or possessed . I have seen it .It is not pretty .It is painful Why would you allow it ?Or have you given refuge to it ?Is it here by your will ?And are the angels there to protect me to show me ? I am sad  gnite my friend "He told me , " faith does not fill the vessel"I replied , "Do you see this one ?Did you invite him to your house ?Does he pretend to teach you ?This is not a smart one This is a deciever He is called the scourger
of souls ,the scraper the blemish giver . He is the glue .He opens the paths to allow further deeper attachments that lead to insanity  and never to empowerment  or to enlightenment  or to love or light .

Another  dark night of the soul has come upon you now  as you will be given up to your choices and must choose light or dark or gray
but a choice must be made tonight that is why the angels are there .You are ancient ,wise , strong and you can open your eyes and see this for what it is  a deciever a rope  the mark on you  is growing .I must
go.Call me if you want help .He did not farewell me but said "Good to know, i do not want any attachments." I wept .
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I read the hindu story about Krishna
in his Vishnu aspect
coming to save the world
as a fish the redeemer
a parallel to Christ
and he tells the good man ( like a Noah )
to put one of every plant and seed on a boat
as a flood is coming
his enemy ate the vedic holy texts
and now vishnu as Matsya the fish
battle his enemy the demon
Asura Hayagrivya
The Good God wins and  saves the world .
The Demon spends so much time thinking of his enemy
that when he is slayed  later
he becomes one with the Godhead .
http://www.indiayogi.com/content/indgods/matsyaavatar.asp
So this is both sides of the Coin
All paths lead to God

[1) How long did it take?]

1) How long did it take? to get out ? one thought and a few breaths later
2) How long is an OBE? for several hours while we sleep at night or about 30 to 90 minutes in a meditation session or a few minutes if you want to escape a boring lecture or a painful experience .

3) Has it affected your physical life? E.g: Have you felt more at peace after an OBE? Has it help you with grasping new ideas and concepts in work/relationships? Do you gain day-to-day happiness through your experiences? yes to all of the above .Do you find movement in your physical body to be different? No

4) How frequently do you get OBEs?everytime at will and i practice 3 times a week to project with mates in a circle

5) Why did you, personally, try to learn AP? I was disappointed to lose the free rides i recalled taking with guides and angels as a child. I was told no more free rides you have to do it yourself. So I became stubborn and waited they meant it . Then I was afraid to do it by myself .Then i met teachers who insisted it was part of basic development and meditation . And i projected with the teachers help after a few weeks effort . My instructor is still my mate he is in my circle . He is tough . He teaches martial arts too . I wanted to please him and it was the last barrier i had no more fear so i went . It is easy after you learn to control it . Today i use it to learn from angels and teacher in spiritual realms and to travel RTZ .

The Pope passed away last Saturday.  Were anyone of you affected by it?  If so how?

I feel he was a great leader and that he did the best he could . I pray that the next pope will also be a great leader and that he will be more tolerant and compassionate for all peoples especially in the acceptance of homosexuality . I feel most Catholics would agree the church needs to move forward in issues such as birth control and euthanasia . I feel most Catholics would like these issues to reflect our own values about human life . I  respected Pope John Paul II and thought his life was wondrous and inspiring .

It is easy to throw stones but not so easy to speak with conscience and stand against a tide  . Why would anyone take pleasure in the sorrow of another ? The death of any man that is loved by so many should not become a joke .  

Here is an address my sister sent to me to read tonight . As I read it i was reminded of this thread which i felt remiss to respond to . Like the tall poppy who wanted to bow her head in the wind rather than stand out and be cut down first :

MESSAGE OF HIS HOLINESS POPE JOHN PAUL II
FOR THE CELEBRATION OF THE WORLD DAY OF PEACE
1 JANUARY 2005

DO NOT BE OVERCOME BY EVIL BUT OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD


At the beginning of the New Year, I once again address the leaders of nations and all men and women of good will, who recognize the need to build peace in the world. For the theme of this 2005 World Day of Peace I have chosen Saint Paul's words in the Letter to the Romans: "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good" (12:21). Evil is never defeated by evil; once that road is taken, rather than defeating evil, one will instead be defeated by evil.

The great Apostle brings out a fundamental truth: peace is the outcome of a long and demanding battle which is only won when evil is defeated by good. If we consider the tragic scenario of violent fratricidal conflicts in different parts of the world, and the untold sufferings and injustices to which they have given rise, the only truly constructive choice is, as Saint Paul proposes, to flee what is evil and hold fast to what is good (cf. Rom 12:9).

Peace is a good to be promoted with good: it is a good for individuals, for
families, for nations and for all humanity; yet it is one which needs to be
maintained and fostered by decisions and actions inspired by good. We can appreciate the profound truth of another saying of Saint Paul: "Repay no one evil for evil" (Rom 12:17). The one way out of the vicious circle of requiting evil for evil is to accept the Apostle's words: "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good" (Rom 12:21).

Evil, good and love

From the beginning, humanity has known the tragedy of evil and has struggled to grasp its roots and to explain its causes. Evil is not some impersonal, deterministic force at work in the world. It is the result of human freedom. Freedom, which distinguishes human beings from every other creature on earth, is ever present at the heart of the drama of evil. Evil always has a name and a face: the name and face of those men and women who freely choose it. Sacred Scripture teaches that at the dawn of history Adam and Eve rebelled against God, and Abel was killed by Cain, his brother (cf. Gen 3-4). These were the first wrong choices, which were succeeded by countless others down the centuries. Each of these choices has an intrinsic moral dimension, involving specific individual responsibilities and the fundamental relationship of each person with God, with others and with all of creation.

At its deepest level, evil is a tragic rejection of the demands of love(1).
Moral good, on the other hand, is born of love, shows itself as love and is
directed towards love. All this is particularly evident to Christians, who know that their membership in the one mystical Body of Christ sets them in a  particular relationship not only with the Lord but also with their brothers and sisters. The inner logic of Christian love, which in the Gospel is the living source of moral goodness, leads even to the love of one's enemies: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink" (Rom 12:20).

The "grammar" of the universal moral law

If we look to the present state of the world, we cannot help but note the disturbing spread of various social and political manifestations of evil: from social disorders to anarchy and war, from injustice to acts of violence and  killing. To steer a path between the conflicting claims of good and evil, the  human family urgently needs to preserve and esteem that common patrimony of moral values bestowed by God himself. For this reason, Saint Paul encourages all those determined to overcome evil with good to be noble and disinterested in fostering generosity and peace (cf. Rom 12:17-21).

Ten years ago, in addressing the General Assembly of the United Nations about the need for common commitment to the service of peace, I made reference to the "grammar" of the universal moral law(2), to which the Church appeals in her various pronouncements in this area. By inspiring common values and principles, this law unites human beings, despite their different cultures, and is itself unchanging: "it subsists under the flux of ideas and customs and supports their progress... Even when it is rejected in its very principles, it cannot be destroyed or removed from the heart of man. It always rises again in the life of individuals and societies"(3).

This common grammar of the moral law requires ever greater commitment and responsibility in ensuring that the life of individuals and of peoples is respected and advanced. In this light, the evils of a social and political nature which afflict the world, particularly those provoked by outbreaks of violence, are to be vigorously condemned. I think immediately of the beloved continent of Africa, where conflicts which have already claimed millions of victims are still continuing. Or the dangerous situation of Palestine, the Land of Jesus, where the fabric of mutual understanding, torn by a conflict which is fed daily by acts of violence and reprisal, cannot yet be mended in justice and truth. And what of the troubling phenomenon of terrorist violence, which appears
to be driving the whole world towards a future of fear and anguish? Finally, how can we not think with profound regret of the drama unfolding in Iraq, which has given rise to tragic situations of uncertainty and insecurity for all?

To attain the good of peace there must be a clear and conscious acknowledgment that violence is an unacceptable evil and that it never solves problems. "Violence is a lie, for it goes against the truth of our faith, the truth of our humanity. Violence destroys what it claims to defend: the dignity, the life, the freedom of human beings"(4). What is needed is a great effort to form consciences and to educate the younger generation to goodness by upholding that integral and fraternal humanism which the Church proclaims and promotes. This is the foundation for a social, economic and political order respectful of the dignity, freedom and fundamental rights of each person.

The good of peace and the common good

Fostering peace by overcoming evil with good requires careful reflection on the common good(5) and on its social and political implications. When the common good is promoted at every level, peace is promoted. Can an individual find complete fulfilment without taking account of his social nature, that is, his being "with" and "for" others? The common good closely concerns him. It closely concerns every expression of his social nature: the family, groups, associations, cities, regions, states, the community of peoples and nations. Each person, in some way, is called to work for the common good, constantly looking out for the good of others as if it were his own. This responsibility belongs in a particular way to political authorities at every level, since they are called to create that sum of social conditions which permit and foster in
human beings the integral development of their person

The common good therefore demands respect for and the integral promotion of the person and his fundamental rights, as well as respect for and the promotion of the rights of nations on the universal plane. In this regard, the Second Vatican Council observed that "the increasingly close interdependence gradually encompassing the entire world is leading to an increasingly universal common good... and this involves rights and duties with respect to the whole human race. Every social group must take account of the needs and legitimate aspirations of other groups and the common good of the entire human family"

The good of humanity as a whole, including future generations, calls for true international cooperation, to which every nation must offer its contribution

Certain reductive visions of humanity tend to present the common good as a purely socio-economic state of well-being lacking any transcendent purpose, thus emptying it of its deepest meaning. Yet the common good has a transcendent dimension, for God is the ultimate end of all his creatures

Christians know that Jesus has shed full light on how the true common good of humanity is to be achieved. History journeys towards Christ and in him finds its culmination: because of Christ, through Christ and for Christ, every human reality can be led to complete fulfilment in God.The good of peace and the use of the world's goods

Since the good of peace is closely linked to the development of all peoples, the ethical requirements for the use of the earth's goods must always be taken into account. The Second Vatican Council rightly recalled that "God intended the earth and all it contains for the use of everyone and of all peoples; so that the good things of creation should be available equally to all, with justice as guide and charity in attendance"

As a member of the human family, each person becomes as it were a citizen of the world, with consequent duties and rights, since all human beings are united by a common origin and the same supreme destiny. By the mere fact of being conceived, a child is entitled to rights and deserving of care and attention; and someone has the duty to provide these. The condemnation of racism, the protection of minors, the provision of aid to displaced persons and refugees, and the mobilization of international solidarity towards all the needy are nothing other
than consistent applications of the principle of world citizenship.

The good of peace should be seen today as closely related to the new goods derived from progress in science and technology. These too, in application of the principle of the universal destination of the earth's goods, need to be put at the service of humanity's basic needs. Appropriate initiatives on the international level can give full practical implementation to the principle of the universal destination of goods by guaranteeing to all ? individuals and nations ? the basic conditions for sharing in development. This becomes possible once the barriers and monopolies that marginalize many peoples are removed

The good of peace will be better ensured if the international community takes on greater responsibility for what are commonly called public goods. These are goods which all citizens automatically enjoy, without having consciously chosen them or contributed to them in any way. Such is the case, for example, at the national level, with such goods as the judiciary system, the defence system and the network of highways and railways. In our world the phenomenon of increased globalization means that more and more public goods are taking on a global character, and as a result common interests are daily increasing. We need but think of the fight against poverty, the promotion of peace and security, concern
for climate change and disease control. The international community needs to respond to these interests with a broader network of juridical accords aimed at regulating the use of public goods and inspired by universal principles of fairness and solidarity.

The principle of the universal destination of goods can also make possible a more effective approach to the challenge of poverty, particularly when we consider the extreme poverty in which millions of people are still living. The international community, at the beginning of the new millennium, set the priority of halving their number by the year 2015. The Church supports and encourages this commitment and invites all who believe in Christ to show, practically and in every sector, a preferential love for the poor

The tragedy of poverty remains closely linked to the issue of the foreign debt of poor countries. Despite significant progress in this area, the problem has not yet been adequately resolved. Fifteen years ago I called public attention to the fact that the foreign debt of poor countries "is closely related to a series of other problems such as foreign investment, the proper functioning of the major international organizations, the price of raw materials and so forth"


Recent moves in favour of debt reduction, centred mainly on the needs of the poor, have certainly improved the quality of economic growth. Yet, because of a number of factors, this growth is still quantitatively insufficient, especially in relation to the millennium goals. Poor countries remain trapped in a vicious circle: low income and weak growth limit savings and, in turn, weak investments and an inefficient use of savings do not favour growth.

As Pope Paul VI stated and as I myself have reaffirmed, the only really
effective means of enabling States to deal with the grave problem of poverty is to provide them with the necessary resources through foreign financial aid ? public and private ? granted under reasonable conditions, within the framework of international commercial relations regulated with fairness(14). What is urgently needed is a moral and economic mobilization, one which respects agreements already made in favour of poor countries, and is at the same time prepared to review those agreements which have proved excessively burdensome for some countries. In this regard, new impulse should be given to Public Aid for
Development, and new forms of financing for development should be explored, whatever the difficulties entailed(15). Some governments are already looking carefully at promising mechanisms for this; these significant initiatives should be carried out in a spirit of authentic sharing, with respect for the principle of subsidiarity. The management of financial resources destined to the development of poor countries should also entail scrupulous adherence, on the part of both donors and recipients, to sound administrative practices. The Church encourages and contributes to these efforts. One need only mention the significant contribution made by the many Catholic agencies dedicated to aid and development.

At the end of the Great Jubilee of the year 2000, in my Apostolic Letter Novo Millennio Ineunte, I spoke of the urgent need for a new creativity in
charity, in order to spread the Gospel of hope in the world. This need is
clearly seen when we consider the many difficult problems standing in the way of development in Africa: numerous armed conflicts, pandemic diseases aggravated by extreme poverty, and political instability leading to widespread insecurity. These are tragic situations which call for a radically new direction for Africa: there is a need to create new forms of solidarity, at bilateral and multilateral levels, through a more decisive commitment on the part of all, with complete conviction that the well-being of the peoples of Africa is an indispensable condition for the attainment of the universal common good.

May the peoples of Africa become the protagonists of their own future and their own cultural, civil, social and economic development! May Africa cease to be a mere recipient of aid, and become a responsible agent of convinced and productive sharing! Achieving this goal calls for a new political culture , especially in the area of international cooperation. Once again I wish to state that failure to honour the repeated promises of Public Aid for Development, the still unresolved question of the heavy foreign debt of African countries and the failure to give those countries special consideration in international commercial relations, represent grave obstacles to peace which urgently need to be addressed and resolved. Today more than ever, a decisive condition for bringing peace to the world is an acknowledgement of the interdependence between
wealthy and poor countries, such that "development either becomes shared in common by every part of the world or it undergoes a process of regression even in zones marked by constant progress"

The universality of evil and Christian hope

Faced with the many tragic situations present in the world, Christians
confess with humble trust that God alone can enable individuals and peoples to overcome evil and achieve good. By his death and resurrection, Christ has redeemed us and ransomed us "with a price"
(1 Cor 6:20; 7:23), gaining salvation for all. With his help, everyone can defeat evil with good.

Based on the certainty that evil will not prevail, Christians nourish an
invincible hope which sustains their efforts to promote justice and peace.
Despite the personal and social sins which mark all human activity, hope
constantly gives new impulse to the commitment to justice and peace, as well as firm confidence in the possibility of building a better world.

Although the "mystery of iniquity" (2 Th 2:7) is present and active in the
world, we must not forget that redeemed humanity is capable of resisting it. Each believer, created in the image of God and redeemed by Christ, "who in a certain way has united himself to each human being", can cooperate in the triumph of good. The work of "the Spirit of the Lord fills the earth" (cf. Wis 1:7). Christians, especially the lay faithful, "should not, then, hide their hope in the depth of their hearts, but rather express it through the structures of their secular lives in continual conversion and in wrestling ?against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of iniquity' (Eph 6:12)".

No man or woman of good will can renounce the struggle to overcome evil with good. This fight can be fought effectively only with the weapons of love. When good overcomes evil, love prevails and where love prevails, there peace prevails. This is the teaching of the Gospel, restated by the Second Vatican Council: "the fundamental law of human perfection, and consequently of the transformation of the world, is the new commandment of love"

The same is true in the social and political spheres. In this regard, Pope
LeoXIII wrote that those charged with preserving peace in relations between peoples should foster in themselves and kindle in others "charity, the mistress and queen of all the virtues"

Christians must be convinced witnesses of this truth. They should show by their lives that love is the only force capable of bringing fulfilment to persons and societies, the only force ca- pable of directing the course of history in the way of goodness and peace.

During this year dedicated to the Eucharist, may the sons and daughters of the Church find in the supreme sacrament of love the wellspring of all communion: communion with Jesus the Redeemer and, in him, with every human being. By Christ's death and resurrection, made sacramentally present in each Eucharistic celebration, we are saved from evil and enabled to do good. Through the new life which Christ has bestowed on us, we can recognize one another as brothers and sisters, despite every difference of language, nationality and culture. In a  word, by sharing in the one bread and the one cup, we come to realize that we are "God's family" and that together we can make our own effective contribution
to building a world based on the values of justice, freedom and peace.


JOHN PAUL II

[one mystical Body of Christ]

The Pope passed away last Saturday.  Were anyone of you affected by it?  If so how?

MESSAGE OF HIS HOLINESS POPE JOHN PAUL II
FOR THE CELEBRATION OF THE
WORLD DAY OF PEACE

1 JANUARY 2005


DO NOT BE OVERCOME BY EVIL
BUT OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD



1. At the beginning of the New Year, I once again address the leaders of nations and all men and women of good will, who recognize the need to build peace in the world. For the theme of this 2005 World Day of Peace I have chosen Saint Paul's words in the Letter to the Romans: "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good" (12:21). Evil is never defeated by evil; once that road is taken, rather than defeating evil, one will instead be defeated by evil.The great Apostle brings out a fundamental truth: peace is the outcome of a long and demanding battle which is only won when evil is defeated by good. If we consider the tragic scenario of violent fratricidal conflicts in different parts of the world, and the untold sufferings and injustices to which they have given rise, the only truly constructive choice is, as Saint Paul proposes, to flee what is evil and hold fast to what is good (cf. Rom 12:9).

Peace is  good to be promoted with good: it is a good for individuals, for
families, for nations and for all humanity; yet it is one which needs to be
maintained and fostered by decisions and actions inspired by good. We can appreciate the profound truth of another saying of Saint Paul: "Repay no one evil for evil" (Rom 12:17). The one way out of the vicious circle of requiting evil for evil is to accept the Apostle's words: "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good" (Rom 12:21).

Evil, good and love

2. From the beginning, humanity has known the tragedy of evil and has struggled to grasp its roots and to explain its causes. Evil is not some impersonal, deterministic force at work in the world. It is the result of human freedom. Freedom, which distinguishes human beings from every other creature on earth, is ever present at the heart of the drama of evil. Evil always has a name and a face: the name and face of those men and women who freely choose it. Sacred Scripture teaches that at the dawn of history Adam and Eve rebelled against God, and Abel was killed by Cain, his brother (cf. Gen 3-4). These were the first wrong choices, which were succeeded by countless others down the centuries. Each of these choices has an intrinsic moral dimension, involving specific individual responsibilities and the fundamental relationship of each person with God, with others and with all of creation.

At its deepest level, evil is a tragic rejection of the demands of love(1).
Moral good, on the other hand, is born of love, shows itself as love and is
directed towards love. All this is particularly evident to Christians, who know that their membership in the one mystical Body of Christ sets them in a particular relationship not only with the Lord but also with their brothers and sisters. The inner logic of Christian love, which in the Gospel is the living source of moral goodness, leads even to the love of one's enemies: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink" (Rom 12:20).

The "grammar" of the universal moral law

3. If we look to the present state of the world, we cannot help but note the disturbing spread of various social and political manifestations of evil: from social disorders to anarchy and war, from injustice to acts of violence and killing. To steer a path between the conflicting claims of good and evil, the human family urgently needs to preserve and esteem that common patrimony of moral values bestowed by God himself. For this reason, Saint Paul encourages all those determined to overcome evil with good to be noble and not disinterested in fostering generosity and peace (cf. Rom 12:17-21).

Ten years ago, in addressing the General Assembly of the United Nations about the need for common commitment to the service of peace, I made reference to the "grammar" of the universal moral law(2), to which the Church appeals in her various pronouncements in this area. By inspiring common values and principles, this law unites human beings, despite their different cultures, and is itself unchanging: "it subsists under the flux of ideas and customs and supports their progress... Even when it is rejected in its very principles, it cannot be destroyed or removed from the heart of man. It always rises again in the life of individuals and societies"(3).

4. This common grammar of the moral law requires ever greater commitment and responsibility in ensuring that the life of individuals and of peoples is respected and advanced. In this light, the evils of a social and political nature which afflict the world, particularly those provoked by outbreaks of violence, are to be vigorously condemned. I think immediately of the beloved continent of Africa, where conflicts which have already claimed millions of victims are still continuing. Or the dangerous situation of Palestine, the Land of Jesus, where the fabric of mutual understanding, torn by a conflict which is fed daily by acts of violence and reprisal, cannot yet be mended in justice and truth. And what of the troubling phenomenon of terrorist violence, which appears to be driving the whole world towards a future of fear and anguish? Finally, how
can we not think with profound regret of the drama unfolding in Iraq, which has given rise to tragic situations of uncertainty and insecurity for all?

To attain the good of peace there must be a clear and conscious acknowledgment that violence is an unacceptable evil and that it never solves problems. "Violence is a lie, for it goes against the truth of our faith, the truth of our humanity. Violence destroys what it claims to defend: the dignity, the life, the freedom of human beings"(4). What is needed is a great effort to form consciences and to educate the younger generation to goodness by upholding that integral and fraternal humanism which the Church proclaims and promotes. This is the foundation for a social, economic and political order respectful of the dignity, freedom and fundamental rights of each person.

The good of peace and the common good

5. Fostering peace by overcoming evil with good requires careful reflection on the common good(5) and on its social and political implications. When the common good is promoted at every level, peace is promoted. Can an individual find complete fulfilment without taking account of his social nature, that is, his being "with" and "for" others? The common good closely concerns him. It closely concerns every expression of his social nature: the family, groups, associations, cities, regions, states, the community of peoples and nations. Each person, in some way, is called to work for the common good, constantly looking out for the good of others as if it were his own. This responsibility belongs in a particular way to political authorities at every level, since they
are called to create that sum of social conditions which permit and foster in human beings the integral development of their person(6).

The common good therefore demands respect for and the integral promotion of the person and his fundamental rights, as well as respect for and the promotion of the rights of nations on the universal plane. In this regard, the Second Vatican Council observed that "the increasingly close interdependence gradually encompassing the entire world is leading to an increasingly universal common good... and this involves rights and duties with respect to the whole human race. Every social group must take account of the needs and legitimate aspirations of other groups and the common good of the entire human family"(7). The good of humanity as a whole, including future generations, calls for true international cooperation, to which every nation must offer its contribution(.

Certain reductive visions of humanity tend to present the common good as a purely socio-economic state of well-being lacking any transcendent purpose, thus emptying it of its deepest meaning. Yet the common good has a transcendent dimension, for God is the ultimate end of all his creatures(9). Christians know that Jesus has shed full light on how the true common good of humanity is to be achieved. History journeys towards Christ and in him finds its culmination: because of Christ, through Christ and for Christ, every human reality can be led
to complete fulfilment in God.

The good of peace and the use of the world's goods

6. Since the good of peace is closely linked to the development of all peoples, the ethical requirements for the use of the earth's goods must always be taken into account. The Second Vatican Council rightly recalled that "God intended the earth and all it contains for the use of everyone and of all peoples; so that the good things of creation should be available equally to all, with justice as guide and charity in attendance"(10).
As a member of the human family, each person becomes as it were a citizen of the world, with consequent duties and rights, since all human beings are united by a common origin and the same supreme destiny. By the mere fact of being conceived, a child is entitled to rights and deserving of care and attention; and someone has the duty to provide these. The condemnation of racism, the protection of minors, the provision of aid to displaced persons and refugees, and the mobilization of international solidarity towards all the needy are nothing other
than consistent applications of the principle of world citizenship.

7. The good of peace should be seen today as closely related to the new goods derived from progress in science and technology. These too, in application of the principle of the universal destination of the earth's goods, need to be put at the service of humanity's basic needs. Appropriate initiatives on the international level can give full practical implementation to the principle of the universal destination of goods by guaranteeing to all ? individuals and nations ? the basic conditions for sharing in development. This becomes possible once the barriers and monopolies that marginalize many peoples are removed(11).

The good of peace will be better ensured if the international community takes on greater responsibility for what are commonly called public goods. These are goods which all citizens automatically enjoy, without having consciously chosen them or contributed to them in any way. Such is the case, for example, at the national level, with such goods as the judiciary system, the defence system and the network of highways and railways. In our world the phenomenon of increased globalization means that more and more public goods are taking on a global character, and as a result common interests are daily increasing. We need but think of the fight against poverty, the promotion of peace and security, concern
for climate change and disease control. The international community needs to respond to these interests with a broader network of juridical accords aimed at regulating the use of public goods and inspired by universal principles of fairness and solidarity.

8. The principle of the universal destination of goods can also make possible a more effective approach to the challenge of poverty, particularly when we consider the extreme poverty in which millions of people are still living. The international community, at the beginning of the new millennium, set the priority of halving their number by the year 2015. The Church supports and encourages this commitment and invites all who believe in Christ to show, practically and in every sector, a preferential love for the poor(12).

The tragedy of poverty remains closely linked to the issue of the foreign debt of poor countries. Despite significant progress in this area, the problem has not yet been adequately resolved. Fifteen years ago I called public attention to the fact that the foreign debt of poor countries "is closely related to a series of other problems such as foreign investment, the proper functioning of the major international organizations, the price of raw materials and so forth"(13). Recent moves in favour of debt reduction, centred mainly on the needs of the poor, have certainly improved the quality of economic growth. Yet, because of a number of factors, this growth is still quantitatively insufficient, especially
in relation to the millennium goals. Poor countries remain trapped in a vicious circle: low income and weak growth limit savings and, in turn, weak investments and an inefficient use of savings do not favour growth.

9. As Pope Paul VI stated and as I myself have reaffirmed, the only really
effective means of enabling States to deal with the grave problem of poverty is to provide them with the necessary resources through foreign financial aid ? public and private ? granted under reasonable conditions, within the framework of international commercial relations regulated with fairness(14). What is urgently needed is a moral and economic mobilization, one which respects agreements already made in favour of poor countries, and is at the same time prepared to review those agreements which have proved excessively burdensome for some countries. In this regard, new impulse should be given to Public Aid for
Development, and new forms of financing for development should be explored, whatever the difficulties entailed(15). Some governments are already looking carefully at promising mechanisms for this; these significant initiatives should be carried out in a spirit of authentic sharing, with respect for the principle of subsidiarity. The management of financial resources destined to the development of poor countries should also entail scrupulous adherence, on the part of both donors and recipients, to sound administrative practices. The Church encourages and contributes to these efforts. One need only mention the significant contribution made by the many Catholic agencies dedicated to aid and development.

10. At the end of the Great Jubilee of the year 2000, in my Apostolic Letter Novo Millennio Ineunte, I spoke of the urgent need for a new creativity in charity(16), in order to spread the Gospel of hope in the world. This need is clearly seen when we consider the many difficult problems standing in the way of development in Africa: numerous armed conflicts, pandemic diseases aggravated by extreme poverty, and political instability leading to widespread insecurity. These are tragic situations which call for a radically new direction for Africa: there is a need to create new forms of solidarity, at bilateral and multilateral levels, through a more decisive commitment on the part of all, with complete conviction that the well-being of the peoples of Africa is an indispensable condition for the attainment of the universal common good.

May the peoples of Africa become the protagonists of their own future and their own cultural, civil, social and economic development! May Africa cease to be a mere recipient of aid, and become a responsible agent of convinced and productive sharing! Achieving this goal calls for a new political culture, especially in the area of international cooperation. Once again I wish to state that failure to honour the repeated promises of Public Aid for Development, the still unresolved question of the heavy foreign debt of African countries and the failure to give those countries special consideration in international commercial relations, represent grave obstacles to peace which urgently need to be addressed and resolved. Today more than ever, a decisive condition for bringing peace to the world is an acknowledgement of the interdependence between
wealthy and poor countries, such that "development either becomes shared in common by every part of the world or it undergoes a process of regression even in zones marked by constant progress"(17).

The universality of evil and Christian hope

11. Faced with the many tragic situations present in the world, Christians
confess with humble trust that God alone can enable individuals and peoples to overcome evil and achieve good. By his death and resurrection, Christ has redeemed us and ransomed us "with a price" (1 Cor 6:20; 7:23), gaining salvation for all. With his help, everyone can defeat evil with good.

Based on the certainty that evil will not prevail, Christians nourish an
invincible hope which sustains their efforts to promote justice and peace.
Despite the personal and social sins which mark all human activity, hope
constantly gives new impulse to the commitment to justice and peace, as well as firm confidence in the possibility of building a better world.

Although the "mystery of iniquity" (2 Th 2:7) is present and active in the
world, we must not forget that redeemed humanity is capable of resisting it. Each believer, created in the image of God and redeemed by Christ, "who in a certain way has united himself to each human being"(18), can cooperate in the triumph of good. The work of "the Spirit of the Lord fills the earth" (cf. Wis 1:7). Christians, especially the lay faithful, "should not, then, hide their hope in the depth of their hearts, but rather express it through the structures of their secular lives in continual conversion and in wrestling ?against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of iniquity' (Eph
6:12)"(19).

12. No man or woman of good will can renounce the struggle to overcome evil with good. This fight can be fought effectively only with the weapons of love. When good overcomes evil, love prevails and where love prevails, there peace prevails. This is the teaching of the Gospel, restated by the Second Vatican Council: "the fundamental law of human perfection, and consequently of the transformation of the world, is the new commandment of love"(20).

The same is true in the social and political spheres. In this regard, Pope
LeoXIII wrote that those charged with preserving peace in relations between peoples should foster in themselves and kindle in others "charity, the mistress and queen of all the virtues"(21). Christians must be convinced witnesses of this truth. They should show by their lives that love is the only force capable of bringing fulfilment to persons and societies, the only force ca- pable of directing the course of history in the way of goodness and peace.During this year dedicated to the Eucharist, may the sons and daughters of the Church find in the supreme sacrament of love the wellspring of all communion: communion with Jesus the Redeemer and, in him, with every human being. By Christ's death and resurrection, made sacramentally present in each Eucharistic celebration, we are saved from evil and enabled to do good. Through the new life
which Christ has bestowed on us, we can recognize one another as brothers and sisters, despite every difference of language, nationality and culture. In a word, by sharing in the one bread and the one cup, we come to realize that we are "God's family" and that together we can make our own effective contribution to building a world based on the values of justice, freedom and peace.

From the Vatican, 8 December 2004.

JOHN PAUL II

the breath can be taken in thru the palms of hands and soles of feet
from the tan tiens in the brow heart and mal storage centre
the centre are as cauldrons
which can become as silver akasha
to manifest
to heal
or
to open a portal

the breath can be inhaled as one colour of prana one element
air cyan
earth salmon red
fire orange
or water indigo
or mixed by will

bringing the prana down from the crown thru the chakras
or down through the back of spine is possible

bringing the prana up from the soles of the feet
or up from the base and back of the spine is possible too



these methods are called the double half breaths :

1/2 breath down the crown thru  the back of the spine and
1/2 breath up the soles
into the lower tan tien male cauldron
stirred gently
and raised thru the chakras
exhaled thru the roof of the mouth and pushed out of crown
is the male method

to reverse this is the female method
1/2 breath up thru the base and back of the spine
and down from the crown into the female third eye
upper tan tien storage centre
stirred gently then pushed down thru the chakras and out of the alpha aperture below the base of the spine
it is easier to do laying down on the stomach

a variation would be to breath up the spine
and up the soles to stir in the upper tan tien
and then to exhale down the base aperture  or out thru crown


these breath methods  can be used to improve the energy body
to strengthen self spiritually
emotionally and mentally
and to heal self , others
and to manifest hermetically

Sound is not an electro magnetic radiation. It is a wave conducted through matter, and this can be easily proven - there's no sound in vacuum. Also not all heat is EMR - only the part that is radiated out(infrared radiation and visible light). The heat that is not radiated is an unordered kinetic energy - random movements of molecules and atoms.

Look this is coming down to semantics here
by basic definition microwaves are sound
should they be called a wave
probably not
but they are by popular lexicon
I did not make the language mate
look at the Nasa poster in the links above
I reckon the rocket scientists would know
all heat light and sound are on that continuum
call them as you will

now can we call sound microwaves
a wave
well that is certainly arguable
but at a basic level
humanity would call microwave ovens
cooking with sound
it is not sound we hear
it is not like a light wave
it is sound though
and how we call it is a matter of our own understanding


Certainly there is a difference between force and radiation .
Certainly there is a difference between longitudinal and transverse waves .There is a difference between kinetic and potential energy.
But you came into this argument refuting that spirit are energy.
You believed sound and light were not EM and they mose certainly are .

I have been vey patient but i won't continue on this thread .
I am interested in Spirituality .
I have pointed you to some links .
I tried to explain it at a fundamental level when you did not have a grasp at all and now you arguing from another level altogether
and i am beyond my scope now .Or at least at the edge of it lol .

But clearly all of your examples are manifestations of the EM force and you are only arguing semantics now .
Of the 5 fundamental forces of nature everything you mention sound ,light , heat : they are all EM .
Radiation just is one manifestation of the force
and you are only trying to choose between exact words here .

Spirit can be seen
spirit can be heard
it is seen with our eyes percieved by our brain
it has been captured by various technology
but not well

It is a matter of semantics here, all of the phenomenon you mentioned are electromagnetic in nature. You are correct about sound waves propogated through a physical medium of course . But that is not argued by me . But the "force" that allows the atoms to transmit the motion is of course based in electric-magnetic interactions trough the various charged elements of the interaction, ie. electrons protons etc.  

You can be fairly certain that if a phenomenon
does not involve interactions
1. within the nucleus of an atom
2.or radioactive decay (beta decay)
3. or gravity
than it is derived from the unified electromagnetic force, including its static effects. You may correctly call it EM phenomenon and resist EMR or EMR spectrum or "Wave" if you want to argue semantics  but it is EM that is the point . And it is nothing else . Nor could it be .

BTW In general relativity there is only the electric force, the magnetic force is an "illusion" created by the speed of light limit on the electric force. You can find references on Relativistic Magnetism as cited by Princeton . Wrap your mind around that one !

Now let us get back to the subject at hand . Spirit communication must be EM in nature as it is not gravity . It  is not weak or strong nuclear force .
Some humans see spirit . Some humans hear spirit . Spirit message communication is EM.

Will it be captured and displayed by technological means ?
Yes probably sooner than later .
Has it been displayed yet in a verifiable replicable scientific manner?
No it has not .
All media that has captured spirit is subject to speculation
and to the eye , ears and heart of the beholder .
It can not be proven to be spirit
and  there lies the rub.

But can a medium read over the internet ? Yes of course . I can project RTZ to their homes through it . Always ?....nope .

I can see spirit around the sitter though this medium and I can see their energy body and auric phenomenon in this manner . I can see and hear the messages of a spirit with them in this way . So can other mediums .

Can mediums  do it everytime? Yes .
But to what degree ? Is it great each time ? No.

Sometimes you feel the practice is a waste of effort or human time . It is like a kiss . You need to have both parties interested linked and capable . Otherwise it is swapping spit and nothing else .

Is it always right ? No . We do not see as accurately and objectively in this way nor do we hear well . Clairaudience across a media is always more difficult to get right than clairvoyance . We can perceive the light of spirit easier than the sound .

The conduit the medium and the sitter are some variables . The spirit the guides around them and the mediums guides are other variables . When the energy is high and the transmission is accurate it is a phenomenon worthwhile . Otherwise it is just another practice to try to develop .

I am a clairvoyant and clairaudient medium . I have 7 years of university education . I am a teacher . I have worked  as a science educator . I have tried patiently to raise or lower this concept to explain it  to the best of my ability  . I leave it to you to sort it out CaCoDeMoN . Obientot

I am going to the hot tub with my kids now

well thank you for your reply
you have lightened my heart
i love your words especially

there must be a very sad place if there is no chocolate
and
..i can't return a smile 2 the moon...

why not put them into poetry or lyrics ?
some of the best songs were written
under the angst of a period of sorrow

Perhaps you do not know or like the music of Phil Collins
but i loved his work for a period of my life
and in an interview he said that this most prolific stage of his life
had come out of the overwhelming despair
he felt when his wife left him

When he realised he had not appreciated her
and had taken her love for granted
and abandoned her so many times on tour
and then she was not there ever again
she did not want him like the fans did
she was his rock
and now in all the crowds and fame
he was alone
and in crisis

struggle and pain is one edge of the mirror
the other side is the reward the growth and the development
that comes spiritually
when we learn the lesson of sorrow
and do not have to repeat that particular aspect again .

I wrote this song when my second husband left me
while i was pregnant with his son
and very poor
and a new immigrant to Australia
with no adult rellies here
my children and I from the first marriage
lived not far from the beach
but so far from the city then
that you could hear the bush
and see a roo round here back then
it made me feel good to sing  loudly
on the beach alone at night
while i crashed my bare legs into the surf
(along the edge of where the ocean meets the land
like Counting Crows style )
the roaring surf of the ocean was my back up rhythm section lol
with  freezing needles of wind on your wet legs  
you begin to feel alive again
at that point in the circle
just around the corner from death
I heard this gorgeous kookaburra laughing
when i was feeling that sorry for myself .
It called so merrily from the bush
that i thought i should be happy
and felt ashamed i was not
it is my favourite bird afterall
because it is so cheeky
and steals sandwiches from wine sipping ladies lol .
and a bit of a smile came out then despite myself
And it's raucous laugh should wake the most stone of hearts .
But like you i was deep in the sorrow time so i cried more
and thought there is no one here to share it with .
=================================
The full moon's on the rise ,
there's stardust in your eyes ,
but now i  dance alone

Lonely
i cry down the moon ,
too far away to be ,
comfort or company .

the kookaburras call,
brought no one here at all ,
i walk this bush alone.

Lonely
i cry down the moon ,
her skies cry back on me
in futile sympathy

Summers rain falls down ,
it barely wets the ground ,
and i walk on alone.

Lonely
i cry down the moon ,
too far away to be ,
comfort or company

dreamers wont you show
wherefore i must go,
so i wont be alone ?

Lonely , i cry down the moon
she's lonely just like me
faded stars for company
==================================
SMiLe Life is Good
itz happy round the corner

well please don't contemplate suicide mate
it is not any better there than here
the suicide realm in spirit
SUX

anxiety and depression are cyclical  
and have spiritual ( negative attachments and blockages)
physical ( chronic pain or illness )
chemical( imbalance )
emotional ( past issues not dealt  with )
and /or mental ( psychotic neurotic ) causes

Depression  can be cured
find out why you are like this
GET PROFESSIONAL HELP TODAY
and fix it here


and just because a person can't see joy here on earth
does not mean they will get joy there either

after their departure the grass will not be greener
only more barren and boring and sad and anxious and depressing

the suicide realm is a place of despair and misery guts
filled with others that have done the same deed
you don't get out of the game
it just makes it worse
nothing is better when one  just changes venues
if we change the scenery and not ourselves
we take the emotional baggage with us

If you cannot find love and light here
how will you learn to find it there ?

...very difficult
in the land of the eeyores

how does one  find joy in worry world ?

....only by getting out of it

and here is easy to get out of friend
but
there is not so easy to leave
you can't really "live" yourself again when you have a wave of sudden happiness and get an impulse can  ya ?

some have to wait until they should have died on earth
to go to higher happier planes

some get to make amends with rellies
and help them to forgive this selfish act
and the pain it caused loved ones
and that gives them brownie points to leave earlier

some reach out and pull some one up
from the abyss and give them hope
and show them how to work it out
and they get brownie points for that too

but there is no cable tv there or mtv no pizza no beer
no sunsets no puppies no chocolate
forget my silly list
look at what you would miss !

and who would you miss
and who would miss you ?

if you can't see spirit or angels now
you will learn to see in time there
but while you wait to be able to speak and hear there
what would happen in your head ??

conscious without rest
no blanket to pull over your head
no corner to escape the suffering
here we have so many ways to escape
and better yet ways to find happiness

thoughts of self despair and pity
are not worth having
and do nothing
to make you feel better

or to make the world a better place

so smile
get on with it

it is so much easier to find happiness here
and to fix things up again

so find your happy spot
and get on with life
do what makes you feel real and alive

but first do no harm

life is too short
enjoy it before it is over

I am very curious, as to what others see when they close their eyes.

i believe we all can become clairvoyant and that as we grow naturally some events speed up a predictable continuum of this development.

as we become more clairvoyant we see more with our eyes closed than when we were just beginning to see

most things get worse as we get older well after we reach our peak they decline; our reflexes , our memory , our capacity to learn , our sight , our joints , our muscles , our physical beauty wanes with the decline of elasticity in our skin too .

BUT
our spirituality continues to get better as we age
and this is evidenced in our clairvoyant ability


our pineal gland is believed to effect our clairvoyant sight
this has been shown to respond better in dark or dim light
and bright light impairs this vision
so when we close our eyes
as in sleep dream or night time Astral travel
we can see better with the third eye vision
and the pineal gland is said to become erect !

http://users.senet.com.au/~brains/ant.htm

when it is dormant it lies horizontally and flaccid
maybe to develop clairvoyant site
we need mental viagra lol

anyway what do we see ?
curious  like you i asked my mates
in my group we all evolved
pretty much the same way
in this sort of a continuum  of steps


--
nothing
-----
then black shadows and white light
( this is like the physical sight developing btw like rods )
---------
then we began to see rose magenta indigo or violet monochrome orbs
this is curious to me
people often see an eye at this time too
is th  violet eye commonly seen in beginner meditation
a physical phenomenon resulting from seeing an image of the retina and the reflection perhaps of the pupil or is is spiritual or both ?
the chakra of the third eye is this colour
but why does the mind so often begin with shades of violet ?
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this became symbols in violet tones
then it became symbols in a simple message in violet tones
then it became streams in colours
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about this time we noticed golden orbs or golden stripes
this became spirit first as silhouettes flat
then in 3 D profiles
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then in colour but maybe just one colour
if the person is projecting in RTZ they seem to be indigo if male
and magenta if female
or gray if not strong aura
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after we see spirit we can see in spiritual realms
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we see in RTZ at first as black and white
then some colour sense but not well
as "I saw a man with dark hair the curtains in his room hit the floor they were a heavy material of dark colour i feel they were navy "
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but it is not full colour vision all the time in RTZ  
often RTZ alone is harder than groups in realms
the realms have higher energy
they tend to be full blown 3D full colour
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in further realms we can learn to wrap sound around an object to see it
this is cool like infrared but everything seems cyan to me when i look this way and this is new to me
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...and our  hearing is still impaired compared to sight



References :

The Pineal started to atrophy at that point and was only engaged again by artificial stimulation and naturally during the development of the fetus. After birth it remains active in the child to 5-6 years of age, until the Will has established itself. It also activates during the Dying process and the opening of the 6th then 7th Chakras after the Kundalini has been raised from the Base Chakra. (Chaney 19).

from Marion Chitty ' Antarian Conversion

http://users.senet.com.au/~brains/ant.htm

The second form, the non-physical, is in my experience the most common. Often experienced as a picture in your mind's eye, or as an image projected on the back of your eyelids (when your eyes are closed), it's much harder to pin down, and therefore is often discounted as imagination by beginning clairvoyants. It is, however, every bit as valid as seeing things physically, and in fact can often be more useful to an experienced clairvoyant as it's usually accompanied by clairsentience. It takes a while to hone and trust this form, but for goodness sakes don't discount it. It's recommended that someone wishing to extend their clairvoyant abilities keep a journal of all they see and any resulting impressions, not matter how odd they may seem at the time. I can vouch for this personally, as it's often an eye-opening experience to go back later and have details verified.

So, you're probably asking, what causes clairvoyance and can anyone learn to do it? To answer the latter, yes, anyone can everyone has the capabilities to see clairvoyantly, given a little time, practice and patience. As for what causes it, it has been theorised that humans are slowly evolving into greater and greater clairvoyant abilities, and those that already use such techniques have just jumped slightly ahead on the evolutionary ladder. This view is supported by several Greek philosophers of Classical times referring to the "tri-coloured rainbow".

http://www.meta-religion.com/Paranormale/Clairvoyance/clairvoyance.htm

Valves opened in front and rear of heart anu
the rear is the filter off  for negativity
Spheres white in front of each us
we held hands manifested it together as one in centre
But each made separate  black sphere in rear
Orange and blue on hands out stretched become akasha then

The valves opened sideways to make wings
the red and blue flowed into them
as we had been shown in vision before class
a self contained circuit on each band

The wings of God the infinity female
then we made the wings of eternity on front and back
and these were the blade of God too male electric

Then we made the front cyan and rear salmon red

Little golden sphere north of head
and purple below appeared did not manifest them

Then Golden door above each head
white risen self above head learning to make glorious self 14th one

I saw crystal egg with Jesus on cross all yellow like the yolk
– showed me sound waves in colours to the NW
and  straight shiny light SE

Chaos black robed purple gowned flaming shadow eternity
silent observer the enforcer came

Purple door in centre group we went in saw fire ropes spiral up
like a Jaco's Ladder
far  above the universe
wavey grids purple gold and green mostly
hard to see there saw no people

Four orbs spinning round us to get there had to open the next door together each got messages
which I forgot to record

We had to become all akasha
Took us in another door sideways
it was unraveling a vortex
looked like loose spaghetti in a fan spiraling out
we spread our consciousness out
we thinnned out
I heard the diffuser
diffused as purple cloud

we must learn to multi locate better
self to each sphere to try the 13 bodies out
we saw 4 female elemental devas teachers in crystal eggs
blue pink yellow green
they are forces of universe

the dark force is chaos chronos the black shadow of flame eternity time
pink earth grounding gravity  
green air is emr energy
yellow fire sun is weak nuclear decay effluent energy
blue water moon is strong nuclear influent

Gold is  the vessel  the mechanism the clock
(the self the glorious self ??)

But also white infinity is female magnetic
-eternity black electric
–time is golden-
purple is space  
silver is self akasha

To open the door jodi was sitting by andrew again
he made sound NW she made light SE
we did 3 ohms sent akasha into the void between them
The vortex opened sideways sucked us in
and we went to a golden boat on sea  of time
chaos -chronos  instructed us about the clock

Saw hands of mother on top
hands of father below
Took the lids off of us
purple essence flowed out with golden stars


lesson 23

Jodi and Maggie stayed back with Catherine
Michael helped with metacognition on Thursday am to complete this lesson

Jodi said the aqua drops that formed the visable egg of life
were paisley shapes
we wonder if the male part will be in the opposite orientation
as the female looked like point down round part up
like half of a yin yang

http://www.orientalspirit.co.uk/images/5Elements.gif

Jodi said we each become a clock
the mechanism of the universe
similar to the golden clock of time in Shamballah
but this is larger the clock of universe
then our clock sits as one number
on the greater clock of our group
with the brain and heart joined in the middle as akasha
To move the mechanism as one
the universal time
We must re arrange circle for the numbers
to balance the energy

Cardinal points 4 hermetic elements
12:00  cyan  cath
03:00  orange jodi
06:00  red     bill
09:00  indigo andrew

Bi cardinal points  the composition or blend at that juncture
1:30 Yellow     anon
4:30 Salmon   lynda    
7:30 Magenta  maggie
10:30 Aqua     debbie

Michael reminded us that cyan red and blue the colours of light
are the ones the cones can see
the rods for black and white and gray
it is interesting that there are 3 and not four visible colours
is there an invisible colour  ? one that would make the balance ?
is it one we would see only clairvoyantly in the dark with the third eye ?
what is missing?
both orange for fire and salmon red for earth
also silver and gold white and black
but we can make all of these with the primary 3 .

the cyan is air the blue is water it is nearly indigo anyway it is also magnetic the red is electric but to either side we get orange or salmon red at 4:30 salmon halfway from red to orange
and 3 :00 orange halfway from cyan to red
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Michael showed us that the days of the Chinese Japanese and Korean week make up their elements and echo Egyptian elements

Sun sun
Mon moon
Tues fire
Wed water
Thurs wood
Fri metal
Sat earth

this reflects the earth
upon which appeared the wooden hull
which had been consumed in  fire
after it sank in the water
which it entered as an Egyptian Barque
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Michael showed us a pentagram
which had the star as the SUN
the void around it the MOON
and at the top north point of the star WOOD
going deosil
N WOOD
NE is WATER
SE is METAL
SW is EARTH
NW is FIRE

deosil
wood floats on water
water tempers metal
metal is from earth
earth extinguishes fire
fire forges metal
metal chops wood

widdershins
wood is cut by metal
metal is lost in earth
earth is burnt in fire
fire extinguished by water
water swells the wood

the centre  is gold and the silver as the stars
the void  is black as the moon or white

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cyan and blue make aqua
cyan and red make gold
red and blue make magenta
all together make white

when we saw souls being created they were divided
spirit souls are blue and gold together blended  become white
but
male is indigo  as he comes out of body red electric in it
female is magenta as she comes out and indigo magnetic in it
their union is aqua why ?
why does electric blue and magnetic red make aqua
it should make magenta
but the female is magenta already
so there is an inbalance here
or is there ?

if we had indigo and not blue
and added magenta to it
would we get the aqua or the gold ?
no
we would get purple

why do we clairvoyantly
see the union of male spirit and female spirit
becomes aqua then
is love aqua or is it the first half of it the union
and the consummation of it is the golden one ?

How do we make it become gold instead divine union ?
aqua and magenta together will make it gold
so the male must change from indigo to aqua to manifest the divine union
is that right ?

http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~efortin/thesis/html/EMR_light.shtml
http://www.hiakz.com/5elements.asp
http://www.orientalspirit.co.uk/fengshui5elements.html

Sound is not an electro magnetic radiation. It is a wave conducted through matter, and this can be easily proven - there's no sound in vacuum. Also not all heat is EMR - only the part that is radiated out(infrared radiation and visible light). The heat that is not radiated is an unordered kinetic energy - random movements of molecules and atoms.

Sound waves are EMR too . Microwaves and Radio waves for example are sound waves which are commonly labled on the left side of visible light on an image of a spectrum . These waves are low frequency . All forms of sound waves are EMR and all kinetic energy is EMR . It is easier to think of it this way . If you suppose that the kinetic energy of a ball perched on the top of a hill is something other than EMR which other force is it ?

First all heat light sound are EMR by definition but let us look anyway at kinetic energy as you like to consider :
As the ball rolls down it makes friction ...this is heat or EMR .
As you see it rolling spinning into colours that is light or EMR .
As it moves down the hill it wll hit objects such as rocks and make a noise that is sound waves and that is EMR .

But ultimately which of the other 4 forces of the universe do you think it would be ? There are only 5 forces of the universe that we know of at this time globally : Weak nuclear , strong nuclear , emr , gravity and dark .

Neither the example sound waves nor the example kinetic energy that you cite would be gravity , weak nuclear , strong nuclear or dark energy .
They are by definition EMR . Go with the flow on this one .


http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l1/emspectrum.html

We may think that radio waves are completely different physical objects or events than gamma-rays. They are produced in very different ways, and we detect them in different ways. But are they really different things? The answer is 'no'. Radio waves, visible light, X-rays, and all the other parts of the electromagnetic spectrum are fundamentally the same thing. They are all electromagnetic radiation.

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/Portholes.html

In my spiritual circle we use the portholes that are manifested by spirit teachers to follow them  to other realms for lessons and exploration . By completion of the Path of the Hermetic Magician and The Alchemical Great Work we learned to  manifest spheres of energy to open a vortex ourselves . In this way a magician can open a porthole to go where they will . This site i found today shows another method that i would like to share . I have observed various forms of portholes :
a column of light
a long thin fissure
a round concave structure
a vortex like a whirlpool in one of 4 cardinal directions
double vortices like an hourglass
http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/Light%20Energy%20Portholes.html

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/The%20Tan%20Tien_Hara%20Line.html

This is an interesting article that approaches yogic energy centres in another way .

I see the energy body components like this :
Female Caput : Third Eye Area
Male Girdle : Sacral Chakra Area
Balanced : Solar Plexus the union chamber of light and sound
Akashic : Silver Flame Heart Anu Chamber of Will and Emotion
Alpha Aperture : Below Base of Spine Os to allow energy in
Omega Aperture : Above the Spine Os to allow energy in
Down the Spine : Energy Conduit
Intra Chakral Column : Energy Conduit
Palms of Hands: Transmission Points to inhale or exhale energy
Soles of Feets :Transmission Points to inhale or exhale energy

so is
the male girdle is the Lower Tan Tien
the silver anu is the Dan Tien
and the omega aperture is the upper Tan Tien
by some accounts
but the female caput is the upper Tan Tien
by most accounts

The upper or third tan tien is in the head. It is directly analogous to the western "third eye" and correlates to the shen. Again, while most people describe the location as being between the eyebrows and/or the center of the forehead, this is misleading since it tends to draw attention to the front of the skull. The region is located in the center of the skull, as the lower tan tien is located in the center of the abdomen.

http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/tao_heal/bydchi21.html
and the alignment exercise on the link posted above
is not unlike work to open a vortex
within a different methodology ?

In Taoist Internal Alchemy
lower Tan Tien or "Elixir Field"
is known as the Cauldron,
he mystic "gathers, blends, and cooks"
his or her sexual, vital, and spiritual energies:
the first stage in the generation of an immortal spirit being.
equivalent to Western Alchemical "Philosopher's Stone"
or "Elixir of Youth".I
t may be associated with Tibetan Buddhism
centre  called the Wheel of Emanation.

http://www.kheper.net/topics/Taoism/lower_Tan_Tien.htm

and a breathing technique to cleanse:
http://www.authentic-breathing.com/tan_tien_cleansing_breath.htm
http://www.redwingbooks.com/products/books/TanTieChiKun.cfm

[electro magnetic energy - sound light heat electrical and magnetic]

There are 5 fundamental forces of the Universe:
1.strong nuclear -glue within atoms to hold them together
2.weak nuclear -allows radioactive decay and the  release of energy
3.electro magnetic energy - sound light heat electrical and magnetic
4.gravity -pull on onjects as they get closer together
as a warping of space between objects
5.dark energy - a repulsive force .. the more space between two objects the greater the force to continue the push to repel them from each other

Energy is not neccesarily electro magnetic radiation. There are many other kinds of energy, like kinetic energy(energy of moving objects and heat, sound waves), electricity, potential energy contained in atoms and of course energy contained in molecules. .

All sound, heat ,light ,electrical and magnetic activity is part of the EMR spectrum.This is a fundamental concept that is taught as part of the elementary or primary Science curriculum globally .

Here are a few links for your enlightenment :
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l1/emspectrum.html
http://www.electro-optical.com/bb_rad/emspect.htm
http://unihedron.com/projects/spectrum/

There's absolutely no proof that spirits are just energy, and of course there's no proof that spirits are elecromagnetic radiation. The "energy" that you talk about is just a concept, I am sure that some kind of spiritual "energy" exists, but until scientific research will be conducted we don't know what it really is.

What humans see is light . What they hear is sound . The spirit message transmits as light and sound . These are EMR transmissions .
 

but I can certainly say that this is BS. .

I assume you meant  Basic Science ,but  if you meant bull excrement then you would have been unkind . But there is no need to apologise . You already did .

I am sorry.

it is ok

seriously mate
open your mind
open your heart
open a book
you have serious blockages
to the flow of energy
within you
and you need
a big hug .

Anyway could someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell my why i can see through my closed eyelids, and what those things were in my room??? I posted this on the welcome to obe thing, but i got no replies, so i am really hoping that someone on this one can help me.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks

k clairvoyance develops naturally along a predictable continuum
seeing clairvoyantly is easier with the eyes closed
it is especially important to avoid bright light
the pineal gland of the brain is affected by bright light
and the pineal gland directs some of the imagery we percieve
clairaudiently and clairvoyantly
it actually gets erect lol
and can be seen to stand up when it is working
i found that little tidbit out
on Marion Chitty's site
...hmmmm let me see if i can find the url
lol
http://users.senet.com.au/~brains/ant.htm
it is true
not being silly

and the energy body is engineered to allow you to see in the dark
as the majority of your travels will be while you sleep
and while it is dark
and most of this work is done unaware to the mental body
it lies within the deeper consciousness known as higher self
here is a link to the continuum
there are exceptions but it is generally
the first thing humans see clairvoyantly
is behind closed eyelids


http://au.msnusers.com/AuntClairsParlorSpiritualReadingRoom/yourwebpage1.msnw

Why would a Christian not use Magic
or any mystical means that would
without harm to another
allow the mystic to view the face of Christ
and hear the voices of the angels ?

Pope John Paul II said that meditation is the most sincere form of prayer
for in meditation we listen to what God wants to tell us
instead of praying for what we want

God is not the Santa Claus of the Universe
our relationship with God is not supposed to be
One Way
where we do the begging
and God does the providing

God helps those that help themselves
We must learn to make this a better world
This is a way that we have been shown to do this
It is a quest for answers and a path to  enlightenment
and learning about love and light and becoming the Great Work of God

This marvellous energy body was architected by God
this thing called magic is the control of the elements
to make the energy body work
God gave us these tools
in order to heal as Jesus did
in order to exorcise as Jesus did
and in order to project to the spiritual realms

Jesus said if we had faith we could do all that he did
and we should heal each other
and we should hear the angels
He said to follow him .

So what bothers you the most ?...the word Magic?
Call it something else then .
It is not evil to follow God .
All paths lead to God .
This is a path
to become enlightened
and prayer is part of it
but prayer is not enough
service to others is necessary
in order for us to grow and shine .
In meditation we go to the realms God created
to teach us and enlighten us

I did pray . I prayed to walk closer to Jesus .
This is a favourite hymn :
"The Lord is my Shepherd and I want to follow
wherever he leads me
wherever he goes
and while on the journey
to where we are going
he's walking beside me
or waiting for me .
I want to go to meet him there
to lay myself down at his side
the Lord is my shepherd
and I  want to follow
wherever he leads me
wherever he goes . "

I do pray daily
I go to Catholic Mass too.
My prayers for enlightenment are  met in this path
that has been followed by many Christians before me .

The path to God exists within each of us
so that we
as humanity
as the  most marvellous toy
may approach and walk more closely
and learn
more
about
LOVE

This is our raison d'etre.
This is the most
important work
and nothing gives
more satisfaction
in this life
than to fly with angels
and hear their songs
of unending praise
this is not wrong
this is not wasted effort.

God wants us all
to become
enlightened
so that we may
become
all that we can be
and so that we will truly
know how to love one another
as Jesus said ,
"this is my commandment
this is the greatest commandment
Love one another as I have loved you . "

Should a parent work to buy a house for their children
or should they sit in prayer and ask God to give it to them ?
We can pray for the interview or the job or the right home or partner and these little steps will come to us but we cannot expect that it will all
fall into place without some elbow grease on our own part .

God gives us the tools .
We must pick them up and follow him
take up the cross and follow
that is the way
that i go anyway

and if I see Jesus and angels where
it cannot be wrong
this path is not without pain or temptations
sometimes there are trials but i am going to do my best
to follow this path
all the days of my life .


Pax Domini

I suppose the problem is that I'm not trying to contact anyone in particular. Or perhaps I'm going about this the wrong way. Advise is most welcome, ---

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1.Take someone with you :RTZ project to the home of a sleeping mate .Tug one of their big toes. Or arrange another signal . You can tug using your mental power send your thought to the toe and see your energy hands there then tug . It is a little slower in processing time but it works . You could surprise your friend or pre-arrange to have the person visit with you and speak ahead of time about where you plan to project together .
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2. Go to a teaching realm :At teaching realms there are always spiritual teachers  waiting . Mahatma can  multi locate and leave part of their consciousness there waiting for seekers to rock up .  A good first choice is the Golden Chamber of Melchiezedek .You can get there using a technique on this site :
http://groups.msn.com/AuntClairsParlorSpiritualReadingRoom/yourwebpage2.msnw

It is the long mumbo jumbo way above it does raise energy
and will work in a group of 5 or more seekers well.

For one solo aspirant you begin like this . "I sit before you Heavenly Spirit perfectly protected and safe . I come to take another step forward on my spiritual journey . I humbly  invoke the presence of  Archangel Metatron to perfect my  merkaba by covering it with his platinum net of protection .  I humbly invoke the presence of Archangel Michael . I humbly request that Archangel Michael will  protect me and my merkaba and safely lead me on my journey to the ashram of ___________.Amen"

There is also a list of some of the other teaching realms on that link above .
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3. Go to a place like Astral Pulse Island where others might be hanging out in RTZ .  You could go there this weekend April 15 2005
they are having a party . Or check the index for a later date .
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4. Build a place yourself using basic alchemy and go there often to see who has arrived . Tell  peers that can project about the ashram you made and how to get there .
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5.Your could go to Andrew's Ashram if you like . He is one of the members of my spiritual circle .He made the infrastructure of our ashram so we named it after him. Others have projected there too . I will meet you there if you arrange a time .  
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6. Take your mate with you  by going together in a circle or just two of you . You don't have to be in the same room of course when you begin but if you are it can help . Here is a joint projecting method :

Small Group Channeling Technique  to effect a group merkaba for a small group of 2 to 5 students to see the same things through each others eyes .Close your eyes focus and breathe ,take 3 deep cleansing breaths ,centring and focusing for meditation , take and hold the forearms to the elbows of each other while facing each other . Right hand palm up left hand palm down . After you do your opening prayer then call in your personal guide and guardian angel and any ascended masters you work with . Then Invoke the presence of Melchiezedek , Archangel Michael , and Metatron . Ask to have the group merkaba manifested by Metatron and covered with his platinum net of protection to be escorted and protected by Archangel Michael for the intention of going to the ascension seat of _____________ to _________________. ( for example to the To the Golden Chamber of Melchiezedek for the purpose of initiation into the order of Melchiezedek ). Amen.

Example : We stand holding hands right hand palm up left hand palm down . We visualise a ring of gold around our circle and a cross of white light on every window door and chimney . We stand before you Mother and Father God perfectly protected and safe . Heavenly Spirit we humbly pray that you will guide us tonight in our spiritual journey as we take one more step forward on the spiritual path . Amen . Drop hands and sit down , Please . Prepare for this meditation by taking 3 deep cleansing breaths when you are ready close your eyes and sit uncrossed palms up eyes closed . We humbly invoke the presence of Archangel Metatron . We ask Archangel Metatron to manifest for us a group merkaba perfectly protected with his platinum net . We humbly invoke the presence of Archangel Michael . We ask Archangel Michael to protect us and lead us on our journey to the ________-Ascension Seat now . Amen




More on this link :
http://au.msnusers.com/AuntClairsParlorSpiritualReadingRoom/spiritualdevelopmentv.msnw

More on use of hermetic elements
some bits on energy body development as culled
from post in 2nd Cone on Spiritual Development forum

1.fire forward fast
water back slow
Air up slow
earth down fast

or :

fire forward fast accelerator
water back slow brakes
Air up slow hover shift gears
earth down fast land sink end journey park

to travel the ley lines on earth or the grid in astral
to go to the past...  go left of centre
to go to future ...right of cent re
to travel in present forward fire
to speed up fire
to slow down water
to land earth
to go to higher dimensions air

and :
pink earth lower dimensions below
green cyan air higher dimensions above
red amber orange fire future to your right
blue indigo water past to your left
silver Alisha self present where you are within
golden sun without outside of the box of self and into the great beyond

2.The nadis are influent blue taking in
and effluent red pouring out

3.If 4 of us each exhales one element we will form akasha and we can stand in the pillar formed to project ourselves in this pillar of light to others not here .

4.
**************************Kriya Yoga Technique **************
the energy under the soles of the feet is hugely important now

take  2 breaths in
one down the spine from crown
one from up the soles of feet to root
hold in male storage centre then release by passing it back up thru the chakra stack and out you will feel pressure on your palet at the roof of the mouth let the energy come out this way to exude the living light and living sound .

This one is a flush upwards it can be impelled by bringing energy down from the crown and delicately impelling it into the male storage centre and then pulling energy also into the soles and flushing up so you can double barrel this

This is a technique to send energy up the nadis
that has been pulled both from the crown down the spine and up from the soles to the root chakra . Both go through the throne of God

but of course the flow is intrinsically coming up on this one so we breathe in prana from soles up to throne out through crown and that works best

the bringing of energy down from crown through the back door carefully now will backwash the system ready for the next purge i see

like pool filter lol
but this back door for crown i have not seen or heard before
i see a valve now not one way
like the one that is at the base of the kundalini flame
it is new
and it arrives when the medusa effect is realised
it is needed so it becomes
so it was sorta there all along too
i hear there is so much more in the energy body
that has never been in operation
waiting not for this little shift of 2012
but for each precipitant surge each shift coming on our own path
and the ones that pioneer it teach it
and help the ones following
the valve looks like a ring in the omega aperture above the crown with a small valve in the centre of the os
it appears like a v now and it will change
to become more sophisticated like two walls of a valve in the heart .
to open close extrude infuse
but to allow flow in and out
it is now changing
so a circuit is being formed
a loop
i am shown a distiller a still like to make moonshine
and i see it runs down the back of the spine first
and then to the heels and then back up the normal path

and so yes it can be done
both double barrel
full throttle
with will

the glorious nature of the living rainbow coloured worms
is they are living light and living sound
and that they can see and hear and feel
so each one is an extension of us

but the part of your first truth is crucial here
they must be the reflection not the entanglement
these tubes of light and sound need a name too

they must be a part of us an extension of us
and remain free of and filtered by our very breath
to remain free of contaminants and entanglements
to be truly self beside another but alone
the pillar of akasha
we can manifest with the four perfectly balanced elemental limbs
to breathe out hands and feet into the pillar
stand in the pillar of silver
and use this gentle but strong energy to extrude more quickly and form the net of colour and remove the old self
and form the new self within the pillar of light
which makes one more of the God they are

integrate this and bring it to frutiion l
the living light and living sound precipitation of the kundalini
become the snakes and then ropes and the net and the merkaba and then the newest energy body inside this merkaba that will be able to do anything imagination sets into place that is for the greater good and believed to be so


http://www.ascendpress.org/articles/transmissions4/anatomyenergy.htm
anon : http://www.aloha.net/~ruth/Caduceus.html

one thing that is unique to this new understanding that the energy comes in both root and crown at the same time in a circuit if the seeker has opened the nadis and can bring energy on the path of the spine

exude the snakes from the throne of God not to disgard them but to empty the channel and to see the crown of them writhing above the way

i have used one or other but not both at same time until recently
and that was only to exhale the prana as a particular element through the hands after making it for example magnetic and indigo then pulling down from crown and up from root and into the solar plexus and out of it at once but this is different still

because the 2 streams are not meeting in the middle and exhaling out of the energy body at the solar plexus or hands but stay within it flowing in a circuit

so the energy comes down the valve at back through the spine
and up through the root to permeate again and again exuding the colours from the nadis as coloured prana in tube like worms coming out initially about a finger length but later as thicker and longer fully mature rope like snakes

the web that we are weaving is not unlike the photos on that site but it is truly beyond them

the web will be circular spheroid initially with great gaps each one like a tetrahedron and big as a hand but getting tighter smaller and denser in energy and fuller in strength over time a short time a few weeks from now ....looking like little Xs now .

somehow learn to unzip ourselves
and pour a newly formed energy body into this new woven energy field
it will be made of 7 elements not 4 although we initially make it of the basic 4

now when the weave is ready to receive the new subtle body
and split of your consciousness it will be your 13th one
that enters it

with 12 selves you can multilocate 12 times
sai baba can multi locate many more than this
but he is unique on earth to be alive and do this
i have seen avatars in spirit do this but
not live humans this is what is new and phenomenal

now the animals of the new sphinx aid in this process
but i am not sure of all of them there must be 7 at least
the firey one is hugely important we must as the site said
be able to send the whole thing up with flame and fire
and then to cool again and become indigo

the first one is a huge long furry armed bear red FIRE
the next is indigo double headed eagle / phoenix magnetic and cold heavens and WATER

Photos can capture images of Ghosts
You may have seen photos which captured ghosts . There are sites you could google on the net claiming to have ghost photos . These photos
are not capable of being scientifically accepted of course . Most humans are unaware and can not see the spirit in a room . Images captured on a photo do not necessarily help them see better . Someimes it is just a light off the lens and there is no spirit there at all . I would like to see photos catch the spirit energy so that anyone could see it and we could demonstrate it to be genuine and replicable, not faked

Mediums do not always sense all spirits present neither does media
When two clairvoyants read a sitter at the same time there may be 5 different spirt there ; a b c d and e . One clairvoyant will see only a,b, and c and the other one may see c and d while neither may see spirit e. Seeing clairvoyantly is not the same as the physical sight . We have to change our receivers like tuning up or down on a radio tuner to be able to get the wave .

Some entities are not as capable of being seen as they dint transmit well . Others choose anonymity . Spirt has to learn to send better to be seen . Just being dead doesn't mean you will suddenly be able to talk to the live .

The medium has to learn to receive better and may find some entities not in the range they can see yet. It is harder to see an archangel than it is to see a spirit grandmother .  So just because spirit is there it doesn't mean they will be captured on any media either .

Failure to capture intelligible messages  on audio tape We have tried  to capture what we hear in circle on tape . It comes out like garbled white noise on tape . It is so bad that we stopped taping . I was taping sessions just to read back what each member gave off aloud to record it in our journals . But the interference from spirit was too much and it distorted the tapes so that i could not hear our own voices clearly and i gave up trying to record our sessions altogether . We never heard clear spirit messages on any of these tapes though . I would love to hear ones that could be validated and proven not to be faked I think the previews of the film White Noise are very interesting . I remain skeptical .

Enitities are energy and can transmit or receive online
Now non physical entities are ENERGY and all energy is part of the Electro Magnetic Radiation Spectrum . We can certainly expect then that energy will send and receive over normal emr transmissions conduits . But can we capture it  yet and replay it so that all can hear it ? No I don't think so ....not yet .I think that just as some can see and hear spirit most can not yet . And the capturing at this point in technology has not seemed to amplify the transmission in a way that allows for the non clairvoyant to see or hear it . I look with interest and skeptical speculation at the transmissions that others say are replicable.

Mediums have trouble with some media and preferences for others.It is interesting that some conduits of EMR assist readers and others do not . John Edward laments that he cannot read well over the TV . He reads well live but if he looks at that recording later of the TV episode he finds is hard to read the sitter . He really enjoyed accurate readings over his radio show and prefers that media. My mum used to read over the phone . I don't do this well . Many of my medium mates read over the phone too . Bill V. can project his consciousness over the phone and tell me who is walking by me in my room ...where a child is.... where a pet is . Bill can RTZ here through the phone lines . Bill can not read over the net at all . Jodi does not like to read over the net either . She finds it very difficult and draining . But I don't read well over the phone .

Are there any serious examples of a contact through Internet? Thanks [/

Internet is an effective conduit of non physical entities I prefer the internet . I have read well online there in chat . The internet does allow transmission of energy . We can heal over the net it makes a great conduit . We can send emotions over the net ...try this yourself in a live chat without words . Sit and feel the person you chat with . We can send our auric energy over the net so that others can read it as a medium and sense what entities are with the sitter at the time . We can project by following a trace of the energy over the net . So if someone is chatting to you and you make a bond with them , you can then follow this link to thier home and see in RTZ. It is possible to get a good reading over the internet . A medium can read photos posted on the net or read the energy of the sitter on live chat for exp ample . One can heal send emotions and all sorts of energy even tantric sex over the net .But I think most folks in the adult chat room already know that .  One can cleanse or exorcise over the net and drain over the net .

Going into a crowd is just as risky as the net so don't  get paranoid and cut your connection . LOL :)Just be aware and practice safely .
You can also be drained in public or get a neg attachment at a pub .Some people drain us without even knowing it . Some effuse energy and others are sinkers and being around them on the net is no different than being around them in the physical they can make you feel down sad and low . One can link and attach over the net and you may not wish the attachment cord to be there . Some people are energy vampires and do this on purpose . You can't avoid contact with them at the supermarket either but you can learn psychic defense .So do protect your computers with white light and prayers . The internet  is a very capable conduit of non physical energy .