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so we have to download mindpowerstudio? do we get a free copy of the program? did it work for you well?

read my first post

try my method with a folded scarf....

did any of you try it anyway?

so achieving AP will be easier if you tie somthing around your eyes?

as simple as it sounds, yes....

i tried it before but i'm gonna try it again to see if it is full-proof...

when i tried it before i got hypnagogic imagery and saw my 5th grade religion book... and i stayed still for a second and was about to get more imagery and go to mind awake body asleep but i got excited and just got up

this is a convo with hypnomulley1956 (hypnotist 1 on ap)

Chronologic:  i came up with an idea.
Chronologic:  you know how some people have trouble reaching theta right?
hypnomulley1956: yes
Chronologic:  well you say when we wake up we go from  theta, alpha to beta.... i think that if we tied a blindfold around ourselves while sleeping ,when we are about to get up we would already be in theta and experience it
Chronologic:  i tried it and it works
Chronologic:  i slept with a tie tied around my eyes and i woke up and saw hypnagogic imagery
Chronologic:  I saw my 5th grade religion book as soon as i woke up
hypnomulley1956: cool
Chronologic:  if we want to experience it fully we would need to stay still when we open our eyes and close them automatically....
Chronologic:  i should post this on astral pulse and let them try it
hypnomulley1956: in somnambulism one can open eyes and still be in that state and see the images also
Chronologic:  yea
Chronologic:  i'm going to try my method tonight to see if it is full-proof

i was going to make this thread yesterday but thought somebody else was gonna make it eventually...

ummmmm... why would it? lol... people can't type at work with astral hands.. lol

Cool. I might try boxed nirvana in the future but you listen to Papoose? I see you got one of his quotes in ya sig and nacirema in ya name.

I read somewhere in... i think major tom's thread about focus 10 and there was a quote that someone was in the gateway facility and they switched through focus states... one was a feeling of no time where they actually saw halos around a tree and he communicated with it through feelings.... is this possible? if anyone can ifnd the quote can you put it in here cause i can't find it again

like even when i'm deeply relaxed it happens... i'll try again later and see what happens

ok what is the difference betweeen astral projection and focus levels? because I saw a post by frank saying you don't go out of body but now I see Major tom saying he wants to project... he is one of the main sources of information about focus levels on this site... I thought you didn't project you just raise consciousness?... explain to me please

anytime I feel myself going into focus 10 I always get excited like.... it seems like it only takes me up to 7-10 mins. to get the sensations but I ALWAYS get excited and slip out... any help on this?

i do those but aside from this thread.. if you have trouble keeping your eyes close i suggest a blindfold

if it fades for a few seconds pay attention because it will come back... it fades when the physical eyes try to look....

Have you tried it? or were you so stuck to the belief that that was the only way that you tried for a few seconds and shunned it?

yea.. look at the little ball thingys....

monroe's model:

Focus 3: State of increased mental coherency and balance
Focus 10: Mind Awake/Body Asleep
Focus 12: A state of expanded awareness
Focus 15: State of no time
Focus 21: The edge of time/space where it is possible to contact other energy systems.

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can someone convert it to Frank's model?

if you look directly in a lightbulb and cover your eyes you will see like little energy balls or something in the blackness.... focus on that and watch it... follow it until it is real vivid... it will lead you into focus 2... I have tried and it has brought me further  into the blackness but I got excited and just said forget it...

someone else do it and tell me if it works... just use your hands to hold your eyelids down also

Tom can you contribute your views on the topic? i've read some of your posts and i think you owuld have an idea of how to do it.

yea... this is easier for me becuase i used to buy into all the oh.... you will meet up with negative entities so protect yourself or all this mystic stuff but i heard about Frank's theory and he said 'whatever you think it will be it will be'.... that is so true to me because most people that expect to meet negs on forums end up porjecting and saying... 'i saw a dark figure and got sucked back to my body'... this seemed easier to me instead of the other stuff... don't they think about how what you will happens when you are in the astral?... less fear because you are just increasing consciousness... i'm gonna stick with this...

up..

Can you communicate with your subconscious through phasing? You are going inside of your mind so I would a assume that it is possible. I saw this on Frank's site:


 How to   cure niggling health problems such as digestive disorders, eating problems, lack of energy, sleeplessness, nervous conditions, chemical addictions and dependencies... they all have their causes within your inner reality!

How to enter areas of inner consciousness that enable you to control your future physical reality with a HIGH degree of accuracy... turn a staid "ordinary" life into a fun-packed adventure!

Has anybody done this?

I can get to Alpha easily but are there any techniques so I can go from Alpha to Theta?

*Goes back to watching X-Files*

I'm gonna try something called NST. Named Subconscious technique.