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Thanks StillWater, that was a great reply.

What about energy work and other things people do whilst 'meditating'?
Do they get into a trance state through meditation and work from there?

This is sort of what confuses me, is meditation a place where you can gain knowledge and answers? So many people talk about these things. The topic seems so loose.

People talk of visions or going places via meditation, energy body activity and other stuff, do you experience anything more than a focused mind?

Thanks, sorry if i seem stupid but i want to try and understand its potential.

Hi everyone,

How would you define meditation because i have researched and toyed with obe for a long time now but i think i need a build up in my spiritual journey toward regular obe attempts/it being one of my main goals.

I really want to start meditating regularly as a way to have a time for me to solve all these questions in have in daily life and to just try and slowly bring my spiritual life up and running again, have a bit of routine.


Sorry, but in a nutshell i want to start meditating but have had no luck in researching any 'methods' or tips in how to start and where to go from there.

I've had a big intuition for a while that meditation is the key for me to kick start my spiritual journey back to life.

I would be very grateful if anyone could give me any good links or personal tips or methods.

and please could someone explain the true meaning and process of meditating and how it differs from obe and other trance states.

Thanks allot, and thanks for the forum and its locals.

Topic kinda dying here

lol, thanks i'll try the P2P, i think i'll buy his journeys out of the body soon aswell, thanks guys

Is there any monroe e-books out there? or any decent sites with more information on him and his experinces?

Thanks!

Any new news??

Well done!

Hey Dirty, nice video man, nice skills keep them up I used to do TK too, very inspired this has made me

Good job Covelo, I think we all appriciate this alot, it's so nice of you to take so much time over this for us.

                      Thank you!

Hey thanks for all this help Covelo!!!!!!!! I hope you can fit my questions on the list somewhere they are one page 8 i believe. Thanks.

I also have another....

We only know what 2% of our DNA does, 98% is there but we simply do not know what it does! Yet everyone's is different, it's called the non-coding DNA and we all have unique strands and rhythms which pop up every now and then in the non coding part of our DNA.. You think they could give anything on what the 98% on DNA we don't know what it does or is there for?? Thanks alot.

I have many theories....

Well thanks alot Covelo i think its well appriciated here! It's great that you can help in giving us so much knowledge, I hope you can fit my questions in on the previous page, i would be very gratful.

Happy new year and good luck with the next channeling! Thanks in advance!

Darren

"They have said that they were charged by God to create a place where souls could go and have amensia and free will so that they could have a unique and alternate way of experiencing and learning how to return to "The Father", and to add to the richness and diversity of God. (As we are the personalized individual expressions of the Creator)"

1.) Did God just create them for this job or were they beings before this job was charged to them, it seems unfair they get to be created with vast knowledge and have information without experiencing physical life themselves, were they once normal human beings too?


2.) Humans were given the knowledge/conscious to create great things, also destroying earth, who will be punished if anyone for destroying earth, do they know if earth will end by human destruction? Don't thy have any type of power to stop or change such things?


3.) How do they refer to God? Is it in charge of all things? Is it an energy? Does it have form? Does it work through being manifest in us from birth, or does it make personal connections to people through life?

Thanks alot, I hope these are questions other people would like to know the answers too, Hope you can give me some sort of reply, thanks alot.

Hope every ones spiritual development is going great, good energy as you say.

An Exorcism program is on Thursday 24th Feb. Channel 4, 11:05 for anyone that lives in the UK .... TUNE IN!

Hey beavis, Well it seems you've created a mind block. Now everytime you try to mive this new one, your subconsious believes you can't do it. If you want to move it you have to forget all this of oo i can move that 100times faster becuas you're making a bigger mind block. I've experienced it alot and this 'thinking about it' will just make it worse.

Darren

Yes this would be a very good practise, i mean there is no real fact about 'psi, 'chi' 'qi'. I believe they are just all the same energy. Since you can use what you use for TK in like energy moving and feeling it to put it in your hand for a punch. Maybe by stimulating TK and such u'll get used to 'Qi'

Darren

Saw the end of a film last night it was called 'The Frighteners'. I had alot of reference to OBE and other 'phenomena'. I saw a bit where there was this neg doing something and was guna kill someone i don't know!? But this guy got a woman to put himself in a walk in freezer so he'd have an NDE lol and it was really quite good! They had obviously done they're research on OBE, there were lots of little things that showed it. The guy 'died' and split and then he was in his 'RTZB' and he like fell through the floor and was flying about and stuff... i just thought it was really Ironic since i was on here and then it was on lol

Has anyone seen or heard of it?? If not see it, it was quite kool to see how they showed it in a film.

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=4980&p=57&g=72

HA HA!

Yeh thats right ARCHDRAGON, I'd like to add that tro-flow, even though these vids seem stupid and some are blatantly false it doesn't mean that the thing they are potraying they can do cannot be done. I know for a fact that telekinesis is real. Sure you may get someone that fakes it becuase they cannot do it... plus why are you here if your so skeptic.. i admit myself i've seen some vids and laughed, but not at the thing they potray e.g. telekinesis, levatation but just the person that is making a vid that is compleatly false. Telekinesis is real and its another one of those things you won't believe in until you do it or see it for real, don't mock it because its TK that brought me to believe and understand in OBE and the greater reality.

Thank you, Darren

Yes i understand you, but boredom can come with TK I've experienced it myself. When i first started i had these 'huge' goals as well. Not reaching what you really 'want' makes you lose interest in what you should be doing, which is getting better at what your doing at that moment . . . . But yes bored is rooted in emotions.. egos maybe? Over obsessing on TK will help you get bored lol.. The best advice i have is to not just follow what you read about it all.. make your own techniques and tools to practice TK on that helps alot and keeps practice fresh and more interesting!
This is about TK remember  

Darren

Lol yeh thats so right, i find im always becoming more aware in dreams then i start to fly. Man im really quite bad lol. Yes i think they are more than preoccupation since that 'dream' of the 'orb face' wasn't like anyother. I sensed all these different feelings and i just know she was telling me something that i wish i could have remembered......... I started to think she might be my guide.. i do believe in guides.. what do you think.. I mean her presence was loving and i wasn't really affraid?

Thats true reality, you shouldn't set huge goals, but focus on your ability and improving that better at that time. Otherwise the goal will just seem to get futher away and you may get bored and lose intrest because your 'huge' goal has not come yet.

Try and advance in your stages now and this keeps you focussed on it and you will put more energy into what you are doing at this time.

Darren

Well hey its seems you having an effect on it. Psi ( what they call the energy that they think Tk is responsible for) is quite hard to get used too. lol it can be pretty tricky and not do what you want it too. If your thinking oo when I'm spinning this and its coming back and I'm moving it and believe your moving it and try it probably was you since these are the perfect conditions for PSI to work. The bit were it wasn't working the same day sort of shows it was you because that can happen, you 'lose' the technique and mind set that was in bedded in your sub conscious mind that was enabling it to work time after time. the more you did it the better it was getting right? This is like the blowing the wheel and trying to trick Ur mind into thinking it was you, the same thing happens here.
I was getting more in bedded in your mind the more you did it..... you went to sleep your thoughts weren't on the subject for a long time so it was lost. Thats why its good to use the 'blowing the psi wheel' every time somewhere in your practice session to get it stuck in your mind!

But hey we can't explain everything about what we don't really know, this is just my interpretation of it with physical and logic that seems to work.

Keep practicing Julio you'll see effects. Man believe you can do it and it will happen, another mind trick    Since i believe PSI is all about thinking! ....which it is lol

Darren

Great!! keep on practising!

Hey yeh iv'e also had a dream of an obe, it was just basically an OBE in a dream state. I felt the vibes whilst laying on my back, then it went blank then i became 'aware' and i was laying on my side and the tingling was just going and i just 'knew' i was out. I remember being pretty excited and i sat up and had my hard supporting me and looked down and my hand and wrist were through my 'physical' head that was on the pillow. I was like    lol and then felt a presence behind me so i turned around and a being like an blue orb was floating near my bed. t was like a woman's face in the orb and a smaller head 'orb behind that just to the left. I remember her talking to me, telepathically i don't know   I ended after a short while of her talking to me....... Has anyone heard of the 'dweller on the threshold'?? well this seems like that...

The weirdest thing happened after, a few days later i found a picture that resembled what i saw almost perfectly!



They must just be like unconscious projections.....?

Sure Julio! Anytime! I hoped it helped, by reading these forums its boosted me a bit to go and practice TK for a bit lol i got my magnetic finger back again!

Darren