I like that fallnangel77, much more clever than what I was thinking about. I agree that many of the things in the list are things I try to avoid, but at the same time, I think we're all in the process of knowing our selves, and some of those steps aren't pretty, but I think they're necesary and perfect in a way that can't be understood, just known. How can you really appreciate the good without tasting the bad? Ben