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Yes, I will try swaying as an exit technique if I get a chance. The thing is, most of my exits so far seem to take place without any effort on my side whatsoever. I'm just having a dream, become lucid and get torn out of my body. The few times that I have exited consciously, just by climbing out, have always resulted in very bad control, for instance, I couldn't stand or move properly and managed to move slowly only by clinging to the wall. But I will try swaying should I become conscious while still in the body.

Thank you for your responses and advice, Andrew.

Nice, I had another one today.

Yesterday I had turned my bed 180 degrees to what it was before and in the morning I had an OOBE. I needed to go to the bathroom, but ignored it, so I had a false awakening seeing myself going there, but when I came in, the bathroom was totally empty, just walls. I immediately realised it's a dream, became lucid and at the next moment was literally sucked out of my body into that same imaginary empty bathroom. This time it felt as if I was drunk or something, had problems staying upright, but gained control after a few seconds. My body was really deformed, my right arm was way bigger than my left and was unnaturally bent, but that didn't worry me as I knew it's probably just a question of my perspective. I'm glad that I had reasonably good astral vision for a while, though then it became mixed with my physical vision again and while I was trying to get it back, I woke up back in my body. The interesting thing is, I woke up with my eyes already open and the view basically matched what I was seeing in the OOBE when my vision became mixed. I suppose I really do open my physical eyes at some point, but despite that manage to stay OOB for a while.

I must say, this bed turning technique works really well for me. I have never had such a succession of OOBEs before, until I started using this method. My neighbour from below probably thinks I'm a lunatic, moving furniture around every day around midnight . But nevertheless, I'll keep on doing it, because it gives results. Today for instance, I had a wall on my left and empty space on my right, which is opposite to what it used to be. As I start to wake up in the morning, my body probably gets really confused and I end up in all those lucid dreams, false awakenings and hypnogogia which all often lead to OOBEs. This method has a small downside in that I once dodged something in a dream and hit my head on the wall pretty hard, because I didn't expect the wall to be there . Still I would recommend anyone struggling to get OOB to try changing the way, place and/or position they sleep in. I still have to work a lot on control to get any reasonably interesting experiences, but at least now I can get out on quite a regular basis.

Andrew, I really appreciate your advice. I will try to interact with environment next time, if I remember to do it and have more control. What do you mean by swaying instead of walking? Like a dancing or a flying motion?

Thanks for your advice. I'll try walking away from my body, although I'm limited by my room, so I'll have to go through the door or the wall. Each time I've tried going through an object before, I just lost it and ended up back in my body, but I'll try anyway.

Do you think it's actually possible to be OOB while your physical eyes are open, or am I just getting some double astral vision or something like that?

Hi everyone,

this is my first post on this forum, though I've been browsing it for quite a while.

I've been trying to OOBE for several years now probably and have had a few successes, but a few experiences that I've had lately are puzzling me a lot.

A few weeks ago, I was having a dream which suddenly became lucid. I realised I was sleeping and thought that this was a good opportunity to project, because I actually felt that I'm halfway OOB already. So I just jumped from the bed onto the floor and opened my eyes. It was obvious that I wasn't in my physical body, but I could feel the hard floor. The most peculiar thing was that my vision was obstructed by the blanket that was covering my physical body. I just thought that I must have taken the blanket with me when I jumped out and tried to shake it off. At that point I somehow just didn't realise that I couldn't have taken a physical object with me. I could walk and feel the floor, but my vision remained the same - mostly obstructed by the blanket and a top corner of my room visible above it. I got back into the body and only then it dawned upon me - it seems I was OOB, but I was actually looking through my physical eyes, which had probably opened at some point.

This has happened several times already after that - I'm out of body, but my view remains the same as if I was just lying in my bed with my eyes open. This is very weird and I feel I'm missing out on some very good OOBEs, as I seem to have lots of control and I remember what was going on.

Today it happened again. I tried forcing my vision to switch to the astral one and shouted mentally "restore vision" or something like that, but I only managed to get a mixed view from my physical eyes and astral sight after a lot of effort which vanished quickly.

These OOBEs seem to happen right after lucid dreams, when I suddenly feel the urge to jump out of my body. I don't remember the dreams, but I remember the OOBEs. Also, what seems to stimulate these experiences in the first place is a change of environment. The first one happened right after I moved into my college room from home. Several others happened when I moved my bed around. I have quite an empty room, so I placed my bed in a totally random diagonal position in the middle of my room and this caused an OOBE the next morning.

Could anyone comment on these "open eyed" OOBEs? I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions.

J

It's quite interesting. I've had only one experience that seems to have been an OOBE. I saw an ordinary dream where I was out of my body (too much forum reading), walking through my house. Suddenly in the dream I felt an urge to return to my body. I ran like hell and jumped into "myself". At this moment I became lucid and realized I was floating above my body. Everything was rather dark, with a tunnel-like vision. The thing is, I couldn't move and couldn't open my left eye. Not being able to do anything, I returned to my body and woke up. What's up with the left eye thing? Anyone else had this?

Hi all,
I'm newly registered here, though I've been browsing this forum for quite a while now. I've been trying to AP for some time and now decided to take it up seriously.

I've done lots of reading and practice and it seems the best way to achieve an OOBE as a beginner is to do it in the morning. Many methods even state it's important to sleep for at least 6 hours, stay awake for an hour and then try to AP.

My problem is, I've always been very bad at falling asleep. This way, things like dozing off during meditation have never been a nuisance. But if I slept for 6 hours and then woke up, it'd be very hard for me to go back to sleep again. And if I add a whole hour of staying awake, falling asleep again will become quite unthinkable.

I suppose this problem shouldn't make such methods absolutely impossible for me to do. So my question is, how could I adapt them so that this problem wouldn't arise? Will shortening the periods (eg. 5 h of sleep, 30 min awake) render the techniques useless? Or maybe there is a way to make myself "better" at falling asleep?

Thank you for any help, I would be grateful for any suggestions.