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#26
Had a cool experience last night. I figure I was projecting instead of dreaming (if you care to make that distinction) because things were very structured and events followed other events chronologically and logically.

I honestly don't remember even close to everything, but the gist was that I showed up at this school, kind of like a boarding school, and the plan was that I was gonna stay there for a while and learn with the other people. Everyone had different super powers and there were all kinds of beings there. I walk in at first and there is this small little Chinese-looking being, like 2 feet tall and looked kind of like a toy, with his arms straight to his sides and behind him, and he was cruising around, floating just above the floor. I was amazed and asked the person who was setting me up if these beings were aliens. He laughed and said no, that they were made in Chile. lol wut?

I show up to a large room where there are other people and I'm asking about their "astral powers" and discussing everything with them. A lot of this kind of stuff goes on for a while, then I wake up in the physical. I'm seeing all kinds of flashing colors and I know it's a perfect time to project.

As I'm lying there trying to stay awake while my body goes to sleep I feel intense chills and vibrations, and I feel like I'm rocking back and forth. I lose awareness for a second then "wake up" in a bed, one of 12 or so beds on an indoor ferris wheel, and as ferris wheel booths rock back and forth, so was my bed. I remember thinking, "Oh man, that's why I felt like I was rocking! I'm in this ferris wheel bed!" And it made perfect sense to me even though now it sounds ridiculous.

I haven't done a great job describing this all but it was really cool going to this school. I can't say I learned anything, or at least I don't remember learning anything, but I'd love to go back soon...

Anyone have experiences with a kind of astral school theme? I've read some before on here but would love to hear more...
#27
I like it. Thanks lionheart
#28
I hear this happens when you eat a ton of acid

8-)
#29
Swallowing will affect you if you believe it will. If you believe you can't project from your side, then you can't.

That old quote is so true, and I forget who said it...maybe Ford? "Whether you believe you can or can't, you're probably right."
#30
While I don't just bring up the subject randomly, I have no problem discussing the subject with people, even if they're pure materialists. Defecation, I used to be one.

lol that was a play on this site replacing "sh*t" with "excrement"

anyway

Who cares what people think? As long as you're not combative or trying to persuade them, you won't encounter any problems. Worst case scenario, they would think you're weird. And they would think right.
#31
Should have just asked him! Although even if he was "there" in some fashion, I seriously doubt he'd have any recollection.

Anyway, that's so freakin cool that you experienced what it's like to be a fox, even though it was with your human mind. I'd like to experience what it's like to be a hawk or a falcon.
#32
Thanks - it was more of a celestial setting, not really one I could interact with. Rather, one that is more difficult to imagine interacting with. I tried getting sucked into the tunnel but failed. I had strong intent, saying repeatedly in my head, "I want to go with you!" or "Take me with you!" and stuff like that. Well hopefully I'll be able to try again today on my lunchbreak.
#33
I call it phasing, not sure exactly what to call it, but yesterday I meditated for an hour right after work. I had a really sore throat, had been tired all day, and was definitely getting sick, so I wanted to meditate and try to heal myself that way. Not sure if it had any effect, but I'm definitely feeling better...should be 100% by tomorrow. Maybe it was the 8 grams of vitamin C :)

Anyway, after 5/10 mins I started getting the usual hypnagogic imagery, but this time it was especially vivid. I don't know about you guys, but for me it always starts with light areas (usually purple) swirling around, and against that light backdrop, I see smoky figures swirling, transforming, like smoke. The edges of these figures are very sharp and distinct.

At one point a single point of light came from the distance toward me, fast, and as it got "near" me it transformed into a beautiful woman's face. Absolutely gorgous, calm, and in my mind I said, "Wow, you're absolutely beautiful! I love the form you've chosen!" It only lasted a split second but it was vivid...maybe more vivid than "real life".

Soon after, against a lit-up background I saw the black smokiness transform into a large hand with the pointer finger up, and it was giving me the "come hither" motion. Suddenly, below the hand everything lit up bright, all different colors, and the colors transformed into stars, nebulae, galaxies, etc...and they were passing below the hand (still motioning me to come hither) at a very high speed. I was traveling with the hand, perspective-wise, but couldn't enter the scene.

I've seen this before when AP'ing after awakening in the middle of the night, and I was able to focus and join the scene, feeling myself getting sucked into the tunnel, and ending up in some random NPR environment. This time though I was too aware of my body, and although I did really want to go there and be sucked into the tunnel, I couldn't.

Really cool experience nonetheless, but any tips for this kind of situation? Any tricks to be able to "join the scene" and get "sucked in"?

Still haven't consciously met my guide, at least I don't remember doing so, but I get the sense that the woman and the hand were my guide(s). Throughout I kept asking to meet him/her/them, asking for help, and I figure he/she/they were trying to help me with the hand motion. There was no discernable communication though, which is what I wanted.
#34
Cool story. I remember reading an article "To Be a Bat" for a philosophy class. Point was we can't know what it's like to be a bat, or anything other than ourselves since when we imagine being a bat, it's with our human consciousness. But maybe with AP the author was wrong?

Did you feel like a human in a fox's body, or an actual fox?
#35
I was reading the Connecticut lottery site a few months ago and one of the winners said that she never played the lottery, but she had a vivid dream one night in which her deceased father was holding a sign that said "Winning Lottery Numbers" or something like that. She was able to remember the numbers, played them, and hit the lotto for a lot of money.

Grandpa, help me out man!!!
#36
I haven't "met" my guide, at least as far as I remember, although I've intended to many times. I first noticed his presence when I was driving into work one day, feeling terrible about the previous night when I did something stupid and dangerous, but came out unscathed. I was drinking too much at the time and on that drive into work I had the strong feeling that someone or something was watching out for me, and had been my whole life. At that moment I got strong tingles up my spine and they spread to my whole body and lasted for a while. That's how my guide makes his presence known, and it happens all the time now.

That experience led me to take some a long time off of drinking until I felt I could do it more responsibly and in moderation, and I think the break was good for me. Who knows, if it weren't for that drive into work that morning, I might be dead?

Anyway, that's my interpretation of it all. I wanted badly to meet him and remember it, have a conversation, but I realize now it really doesn't matter. If I need to, I will in due time.

Still not sure whether he's part of my higher self or something separate from me...or if there's even a difference...so many questions.
#37
Great experience!

Wait so you're in a wheelchair but you go to the gym? That's awesome man. So many able-bodied people don't even exercise. It's such a waste.
#38
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February 22, 2013, 08:56:42
Fascinating!
#39
That's awesome.
#40
Very helpful. Thanks!
#41
Well that was cool. It was the fastest I've ever gotten to the point where I lose the feeling in my arms/legs. Within a few minutes, and with zero lapse in consciousness, I started feeling my astral/etheric/whatever legs rising. Then I started to lose my visualization.

I got to 6 me's, the 6th watching the 5th watching the 4th watching the 3rd watching the 2nd, and he was watching the 1st me juggling 3 oranges from the surrounding Florida orange trees. 3-6 were hiding behind trees lol. I was switching around to different perspectives, and when I felt myself losing consciousness, I would go back to #1 and focus on strengthening the juggling visualization.

Then I was getting very vivid tunnel/wormhole imagery, purple misty smoke going from a cloud into a single point and disappearing. Also yellow tunnels. Also saw some vivid faces, human and animal, although the animal faces I sensed were "smarter" than animals...not sure if that makes sense. Anytime I see something really vivid though, I feel my eyes move involuntarily like they try to focus on it, and I think that's my sticking point.

Any tips to prevent that? I still haven't consciously projected. Only from lucid dreams.
#42
Good stuff, thanks! I'll try it out on my lunch break today :)
#43
Just spent the last 30 mins of my lunch break meditating. I lost consciousness for maybe a couple minutes, snapped back, in the black void, couldn't feel my body, and instead of trying to get "out" or do anything, I just sat there and enjoyed it. It really is an amazing feeling. Unfortunately, my alarm went off soon after I achieved that state so I couldn't enjoy it for long.
#44
I'm a newbie and still haven't consciously projected, but I know what you're saying. In my meditation sessions and as I go to sleep, I relax my body completely, and as a result of that practice, I can achieve a state of near total relaxation just by thinking it. It feels great, and I wish to try and make that my default physical state when I'm just sitting at work or wherever. Usually our bodies are very tense. I'm sure that alone is very draining on us.
#45
I think it's great. No need to feel embarrassed.

I care less about what other people think of me than I ever have, but I still have a long way to go. Not caring what others think about you means amazing personal freedom and increased happiness, in my opinion.
#46
Thanks Suzy, next time I'm partially out I will keep repeating that in my head: I can do it.

I know once I know exactly what it feels like that I'll be able to replicate it, but that first time...tougher than I thought it would be!
#47
I hate to start another help thread, but I'm hoping someone can give me personalized guidance. I'm really close (I think) to projecting consciously, but can't get that last step. I have a couple questions.

I can get my feet/legs "out", and also my arms, and sometimes I can feel my whole self rise out of my physical body an inch or two with that floating sensation, but I get stuck at that point. What should I do, keep trying to get more "out", or do nothing? I've tried both but obviously something is holding me back.

I can achieve the hypnagogic state within 5/10 minutes, and then ride the border of sleep, bouncing back and forth. Usually I'll feel the first big "pull" of my body trying to go to sleep, and I can come back from it without going to sleep. That's the point where I'm able to lose awareness of my body's position. For example, I know how my physical hands are positioned, but they feel (I mean completely feel) like they're in a different position.

To try to describe that state, it's like, "Yeah yeah, meditating, staying aware...whoa wtf nothing makes sense...oh wow almost fell asleep but I'm back and everything feels light and floaty...cool..." lol

Sometimes I will see a brief flash of a vivid scene (most recently, a dark shoreline with a warship coming towards me from the right), but I can't hold onto the scene. Should I be trying to hold on to the scene, or just let it pass and ignore it?

When I achieve the "floaty" state after recovering from a strong sleep "pull", what would you suggest I do? Also, for those of you who are able to consciously project, how long does it usually take for you to get out of body?

For anyone struggling to get to the state I'm talking about, what works best for me is just focusing entirely on the ringing sound in my head that's always in the background, but only heard if focused on. I just ignore everything else and keep focusing on that ringing, and the state comes pretty quickly.

Thanks!
#48
I wouldn't close yourself off to "just a girl or sex". Love can blossom from anywhere. I'm deeply in love with my current girlfriend, and we had sex on the first night we met, over a year ago.

Good luck!
#49
Interesting experience. You have great recall.

As for a girlfriend, work on yourself first. You're obviously making a lot of improvements in your life, which is awesome. Stop focusing so much on getting a girlfriend, and continue focusing on improving yourself. Try to be very social and charismatic, and you'll find a girlfriend.

But if you obsess about it, when you do meet a girl worth dating, you'll be too needy and it'll be a turn-off for her. If you find a girl who enjoys your neediness, it's probably a girl you shouldn't date to begin with.

And definitely don't force kiss them lol
#50
Quote from: Ellis91 on January 14, 2013, 19:01:25
Oops  :-P First part of my post was directed at Lionheart, sorry for the confusion,
interesting to know you also did it daily though, since that's my current goal.

Yeah that's a brilliant poem, I instantly googled it expecting a famous poet to pop up.
Same for Chaki. Seems like there should be an Astral Pulse Poetry club  :-D
Or maybe there already is.

Thanks! I wrote that after reading Szaxx's.