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#26
I am deaf from one side... I haven't tried binaural beats, this is something I want! I am pretty sure it should still work even if I am deaf, the vibes will get to me. Now I can find binaural beats on Youtube, but I am not sure which ones to select, where could I find free beats which actually work? I know maybe I should pay for it, but I am poor right now and I just want to give it a try first.
#27
I'm glad you were able to get into the state after many months without success! Keep trying over and over... I am quite new myself to OOBEs and I have been facing similar difficulties as you. Sometimes, I will have profound experiences i.e. flying in upper realms, going at rapid-speed through a flow to reach a destination, long-lasting lucidity. And then the next night I find myself with a minute of lucidity, with uncoordinate flying, doing nothing interesting... and then it happens again I have a profound experience! So keep trying, something incredible will happen! :)
#28
Two months ago, a force carried me above. I got afraid because of the height and it dropped me. I felt it wanted me to go above. The next time, I decided to fly into the Upper Realms. I took off the ground singing a profound "Ohm!" and the force took me again. I flew through a motion of black and gray. Next I was within a building. I met a small being with hair of light. I told him I had questions, but he refused to answer. I insisted... and he said "Okay then I will tell you something! I find you cute, you are luminous... but you have a dark side, a gray area, you are a vampire!". I went outside and I met another small being. He was wearing a red hat and had a big beard... he looked like a gnome! He was having a conversation with another one and seemed ticked at my questions. I asked, "are you a gnome?" and he said "no". I begged pardon and pursued my exploration. I saw many "gnomes" asleep on the ground. I decided to go higher and started to sing "Ohm!". The black and gray area appeared and the force took me. Then I heard a voice saying "You won't be able to go higher this time" and I woke up in excitement.

Now, I tried to go again, but I haven't been able! The force didn't came back, flying above took me off the Second State. I wasn't able to sing with my incredible voice, or my flying was uncoordinate. I sort of gave up... on December 21, a man told me his name was "Underground". I left him because I wanted to fly to a nearby forest, but I came back to the ground and decided to sink into it. I became afraid of what could lurk down there so I decided to fly back. While doing so, I started to sing "Life!" with my profound voice. It morphed into an unknown symphony and I was joined by a choral! IT WAS AMAZING! Now I would like to go again. I was told I couldn't go further this time by the voice, meaning I would be allowed at another time? Any advices, personal similar experiences, tips to be successful in flying back there would be welcome!
#29
Thanks for you looking up for me! Montreal is a far and I don't go to Québec often! I am closer to the Maine if I pass through New Brunswick. I was suggested to look at the newspaper yesterday, that I would find something interesting. There was a small publicity for a dream and writing workshop. Funnily enough, there are both fields I am involved in! Then I was told to look further, that I would find something else. I found an article for a "Yoga and Kosha" workshop! The kosha are supposed five bodies and the workshop is about our multidimensional nature... it's exactly the place where one could find other projectors! I hope I can take a free day from school to attend!

So for anyone out there seeking to meet people who share our strange interests... look into the NEWSPAPERS!

If you are wondering what I mean by being told to check the newspapers... it may seem strange but theses days, in my head, I find another part of myself, which through my thoughts has a wiser tonality, and this "Higher I" tells me "do this, do that, you should check this out... pass through there, try to do this, etc.". I know it's bonked, but my wiser self is so often correct! Sometimes I refuse to follow his advices and after I think I should have... but he is always glad I use my free will. Of course there is no "He", it is just a wiser intuitional "I"!
#30
Quote from: Stookie_ on January 17, 2013, 11:44:19
Take this girl... she doesn't have time for being self-conscious, she's got important stuff to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYawF71tp4

Wow, I have a lot of admiration for people like her who are able to do such crazy things in public! This comfort me. Well, I suppose it's no big deal and I will continue to do my things, maybe I will just find a more calm spot, but I will definitely not turn back on who I am! It's just that I am very timid in nature. For example, I feel anxious to check my thread this morning! I need to push myself when it comes to interacting with others. I am always fascinated at the results! I want to my yoga class yesterday. I just started and I got to think how strange people who introducted yoga in Occident must have seemed before it became mainstream! As another way to project love, every day for about an hour, I write something about love. It can be anything really as long as it fills the world with delightful rays of love! Yesterday, I had no main idea and just want on with the inspiration of the moment. I decided to write "Bribes aimantes". My first language being French, it would translate as "Loving fragment". For some reason, inspiration flows poesy through me which I can't translate back in English. Here I will translate because I feel like sharing:

"I am within my inner garden. I am breathing on the sweet scent of the Infinita Amora. I began a chant: "Harmony! I vibrate out of harmony! You vibrate out of harmony! We in live in harmony! Joy! Joy in my eyes! Joy in your eyes! Joy in the eyes! Joy in Heaven! Serenity! Serenity for me! Serenity for you! Serenity for the world! Amora! Amora! Grand Amora Infinita for the monda!". Suddenly, I jump and I focus my gaze back into the physical world which was covered in a veil. There is an old woman, an old man and a dog staring at me with interrogations. My heart is pounding and I feel strongly embarrassed. I apologize and I say that it may seem strange, but I am merely performing my little ritual. The lady replies with a smile: "This is not strange at all! It is very well!  It is us who beg for your forgiveness for our interruption". And the old man continues: "Yes, indeed, you see, we felt the need to pass through here rather than elsewhere. It was as if a mysterious force encouraged us to follow this trail; and when we heard you singing, we immediately understood what was this force!". The dog began to bark to say: "Wouf! Love! Love!". I calmed down realizing they were good people who have a heart. "Well then! I thank you deeply, because, you see, sometimes I feel so strange in a much stranger world, and it fills me with joy to cross you on my path! May Love be with you and within anything you accomplish!" did I finally reply while smiling. Within the Silence, ours hearts joined in communion and we said good bye by faces crowned with light".

Well thank you guys for encouraging me to be who I am! I'm glad I asked advices! I wish you a lovely day!
#31
Thank you for your comment. Well, I don't think I am obsess with this, it's just an experiment, though I see it as being more, but I will watch my words to be understood here. I am keeping my focus and intents on it for about seven days, then whatever the results, I will pass to something else. Day 3, 4 and 5 did not bring any new conscious material, neither was I able to remain in lucidity for more than one minute. Two more attempts and I will start to dig into new materials. Somehow, I am being told that it's okay to continue my experiment, but that the field I wanted to open is ready. Just a question, what would be interesting to explore? I am interested in going "Home" as Monroe names it so I can be more creative. I am currently taking one hour of my time every day to "fill" the world with Love through writing. I am tremendously enjoying this project and I am seeing huge change in my moods, behaviors and the way other reacts to me! I can't seem to stop smiling lol! It's quite a surprise!
#32
I would suggest you read "Seth speaks: the eternal validity of the soul" by Jane Roberts, I think your question is covered in multiple ways through the book. I won't go into details, but I think the physical world and our senses are our creations. The same applies to the out-of-body experience, it's another mental space made of symbols. It doesn't mean it is not real, what you see while awake is a perfectly acceptable way to see things, but it is one possible way to see the world which is multidmensional. For example, in another system of reality, time is not perceived the same way, it is said to be perceived as a sort of matter. What is fascinating is that Monroe describe experiencing time in a similar way in Journeys #1, chapter 5, Infinity, Eternity. And why wouldn't the physical senses be an extent of some internal processing, what has been called internal senses? And from there, senses that goes beyond visual, auditive, tactile, etc. input? The same applies to thoughts and matter; why wouldn't it be thoughts who creates chemical changes in the brain and not the contrary?  Imagine for a second your present consciousness is merely a ramification of a much more profound you which project himself to acquire experience by making up different realities in order to evolve always the more and the more. If those kind of topics interest you, read Seth, it's fascinating and easy to understand. For me it was a revelation that validates many personal experiences.
#33
In your thread two months ago, I think I had warned you about medical marijuana! Well you tried it, it's fine, now you know it doesn't help for anxiety. I am really concerned about your symptoms... it makes me wonder what sort of medication you are taking, which dosage and for how long. Are you on benzodiazepines (Ativan, Klonopin, Valium etc.)?

Well if eating more healthily is making a huge difference, that is really cool! I love to cook meals and to eat new and different things! It takes my mind off my intellectual activities! I am really fond of veggies potages. They are easy to make and so yummy! It's good to make changes in your diet, but don't hit on your head because you don't follow it all the time, being too strict will takes you off your diet, some sugar and fat and a little excess sometimes is legitimate! You also need other kind of proper nutriments: intellectual and emotional food, some light, fresh air and prana, exercices, etc.
#34
Thanks desert-rat, I will check them out when I have some time. Teagueblue, no meetup in my area, I suppose meetup.com is in the U.S. while I am in Québec in Canada. I will keep searching and I will find the people I am seeking. I will ask at the yoga, once I am familiar with the classes and look into new age stores, I think there is at least one around, and I will see my old friend who share similar interests.
#35
Good Morning Pulsers,

These days, after I'm done with my dreams diary, around 9:00 AM, I go into the woods behind my house. There's a little trail, a brook and a little bridge. It's cold here in January and I put my snowshoes and I walk a bit around. You don't meet people often around so I figured it would be a perfect place to meditate and sing mantras. My main goal is to project love in all directions... I speak, I may whistle and I do mantras and visualize my projections. I won't get into details, this isn't my concern. Well, you may have figured, but this morning I was totally into my singing that I didn't notice that people were coming my way. I was singing "Serenity for the world!" and an old woman begged me pardon to cross the bridge. I felt a rush of embarrassment and I said sorry and she crossed the bridge with her husband and their dog as I added "I know it may be strange, but I'm performing my little ritual". She said "No that's good". I had already planned what I would if it happened, but still I felt very uncomfortable, I tried to calm down, reassuring myself. I finished my ritual, still felt a bit shaky and returned home. I don't want to be labeled a freak... but I also want to be who I am, to do the things that makes me happy... this could be enough for me not to go back there. What would you do in my place? How would you react if you saw someone doing that while you took a walk in the woods? I need some thoughts on this! Thanks and I wish you a beautiful day!
#36
Interesting... I have been on the Moon many years ago, it was all ice. Maybe it wasn't the Moon or our experiences differ because we visited different dimensions, other potential realities and times, etc. Kayode, I hope you are going to be able to project again before the due time, don't pay attention to the taser incident, though it's interesting.
#37
I hold a dream / OOBE journal... every day when I am done, I write a whole paragraph of intentions which often goes like this: "This night, I am sleepy, my body falls asleep, yet my mind remains alert; the vibrations comes on strongly. I observe them and wait for the perfect wave to go out-of-body with ease. Once I am out of the body, I am fully aware that I am in the Second State. I do *this* and *that*. Once I wake up, I remember every details of the experience and of every dreams".

I may write more intents or formulate questions, goals, healing directions, request for guides somewhere in the day. These days I also use a recording of intentions which I put on low volume when I go to bed. I let it play and I fall asleep... if I am not succesful, when I wake up in the middle of the night, I let the recorder plays again. And next thing I know I am out of body.

Many times in the day, I repeat intentions while firmly believing I am going to succeed. It's not a failure if I don't make it or if I am stuck with mild vibrations or it doesn't go in the direction of my intentions. I keep trying over and over and even when I only have ordinary dreams, it's a success. Sure OBBE are amazing, but you should not deny the insights from ordinary dreams. For example, I had an ordinary dream this night, I found myself within a little spot, within the texture of a much larger universe. I didn't understand until I emerged into a forest where I saw a monk in meditation. From this dream, I found a creative idea for my writings!
#38
Quote from: Body Electric on January 14, 2013, 10:58:00I saw a few random people flying around, one little girl, a teenage boy, and one older woman. And the strange part is they were all flying too, but on their bicycles.

LOL I can see the scene in my head, that must have been funny as hell! You had a great gift for your birthday! I hope you get to visit your sister and meet your inner guides (it's already happening, you just need to become conscious about it!) and much much more!... oh and happy birthday!  :-D
#39
Yes sex is a part of the simples manifestions of love I am speaking off.  :-D
#40
Thanks for your reply! I guess you may be right... being needy in the astral may turn me needy in real life? I don't know. I am very aware that being needy is to avoid. I may have never had a relationship, I know first before all it's me which is important. I love myself and what I do... I am seeking Love, not just a girl or sex or whatever, something larger which manifest within simple things like "Eros" between a man and a woman. I agree it may sound like I am desperate, but it's not the case at all. I am very patient, I am looking for the right occasion and I am very much enjoying my single life... I just want to see how far OOBE can manifest into my physical reality so I decided to run this experience. BTW forcing a kiss was out of my control even though I was lucid!  :lol:

Second night, the results are very interesting! I received a call from a girl whose said she was in love with me. She told me her name was "Tessier" which is a common last name here in Québec! I know no girl with the last name on who I could have projected an internal desire. Apart from that, I projected a few times, but flying was difficult, passing through windows was also difficult, multiple loss of visual input and lucidity, no answer to my intents... I will keep up with the experience for a few more days and see how it turns out. When it comes to Love... you can't be needy! Keep in my mind when I use the word "Love" it is beyond passion between two humans beings, I just want to embrace all possible manifestations of what greeks called Agápe.

If anyone has been able to use OOBE to manifest something of the sort into the physical world, I am very curious to hear your stories! I have the intuition that "love at first sight" closely related to the Second State.
#41
Thanks guys for your advices! I figured joining a yoga class would be a good idea to start, so I am currently giving a go to free classes. I tried yoga & meditation yesterday. I got to talk with the teacher at the end and I asked him about dream yoga. He wasn't familiar with OOBE, but he found it interesting. I'm going to choose a class or two and join... hot yoga seems pretty cool for our cold winters here in Québec!

Coincidence, I had free time at noon and want shopping, I had nothing to buy, but I met a very good friend I haven't seen in ages. We both have interests in meditation and spirituality! I often meet him during classes dreams. We decided to go try the yoga class together tomorow! As a part of my pre-sleep routine, I write questions, goals, healing, etc. I want to receive. I have been writing the same question as in my thread, I seem to be getting answers!

Well I will keep looking, I will check out if I can find a new age shop in my area... I will keep hanging around here too of course. Desert-rat, please, feel free to post the other AP forums! If anyone else has any other clue, that would be appreciated! ;)
#42
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hola
January 15, 2013, 20:17:13
Thanks guys for being so nice! :)
#43
Hello there,
I am pretty much on my own when it comes to discuss spirituality, occultism, out-of-body experiences, dreams and anything related to esoterism. I am trying to find people who share the same interests as me. I started to read Robert Monroe first book where he says he found himself in the same situation and he speaks of the "Underground". Where do I find those spiritual underground societies of people who are involved in the same bizarre activities as me? IRL not just on the Internet, I want to meet real people! Thanks and I wish you a beautiful day!
#44
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hola
January 14, 2013, 09:46:10
Bonjour mes amis voyageurs!

Detox and rehab was a complete success! And I have quit smoking cigarettes!... I am extremely happy! I have been clean for almost two months! It is so worth the efforts! I am never going back there! I came out of rehab on december 21... it was indeed the end of the world for me! I had a profound dream that night where I was offered to smoke Mapacho, shamanic tobacco! And I sung an hymn to life and was joined in my efforts by a choral! A brave new world is shining for me and I embrace it! Much love and success to all of you for 2013! :)
#45
At 5 :00, I woke up and I put back my recording of intentions on. While it was still playing, I embarked in my Second Body. I cannot recall going through the vibrations, but I know the recorder was still playing because I could still hear it. I wanted to pull my earphones off, but I was afraid, with reason, to wake up. My intentions was to fall asleep, observe the vibes and « ride the waves » at the proper moment and easily succeed in doing so to go and visit my next-to-be girlfriend. « It is more than anything going to be a meeting with Love itself incarnated in a very lively form! I am going to tell her I have been searching for her for a long time, I will offer her a transfer of love through a smile and tell we are going to meet soon in the material world » did I suggest as a part of my intent.

I stand up and knew without a doubt I was in the Second State. My room was dark and I remembered being attacked by dark hands during the same night, I was afraid, and decided to put the light on. I didn't turn the switch, it just turned on. I opened doors the same way and went outside. I decided I should go and look for this girl. I started to rise in the air and flied around. I was telling myself « I'm going to meet that girl! » and as I repeated the thought over and over I flied faster and faster. It was also dark outside and cloudy so I put the sun and a blue sky. I had no idea where I was going, then I landed on the ground near a white house. They were also a bunch of old people interacting on the other side of the street. I didn't knew where to go! I decided to go see the people outside. There was a white bench and two little girls, about 10 years old. I sat in-between them wondering if one of them could be the girl I was looking for. I felt timid and embarassed, they were much too young! I told them I was seeking a girlfriend and said they could not be that girl because they were still in sixth year, right? One of them said it was true. I left them to explore the white house.

I entered the house and I met a man preparing breakfast. I asked where was his daughter. I may have told him or he knew I was looking for a girlfriend. He said « My daughter? But she is much too young for a 23 years old! ». I am actually 26 years old, but I do look younger. He went upstairs in a sort of protective behaviour. I decided to go through the ceiling to see how old actually was his daughter. If she was 18, it would not be a problem! As I went through the ceiling, I touched a pipe and the ceiling seemed to never end. I knew I was drifting off the Second State... so I started to rub my hands. I read about this trick on this forum, it is very useful! I have also experienced with eating foods while projecting, it works the same ways, but it may be less convenient (you need to create or to find food!)

I found myself in my bedroom, there was no sense of vibrations again. I went through the window – I find it easier to pass through a window – a wall or a ceiling is harder for me to pass through. I went outside with the same intention. I started to fly and this time I just told myself « I fly faster!  » and I was speeding faster each time. I landed near what seemed an alcohol store. I entered the place and met a brunette there. I went to her and we started to kiss. I had no idea while making the intent, but what else could be a « transfer of love through a smile » if anything but a kiss? We kissed a first time and it felt so good we did a few more times! I could literaly feel the texture of her lips and the warmth from it! I have never kissed a girl in the physical world so how could I knew how it feels? Then I looked more closely at the girl, she was cute but her teeth... she was a little toothless, they were space in-between her tooth. So I decided to look for another girl! Right at this moment, a group of three girls passed by and went into the backstore. I followed them with insistance and found myself alone with a blonde with a white pale face covered with a few freckles. I thought she was cute, not the cutest, but she was really fine! My criterias are not really high. I find that roughly 70% of the girls from 18-28 are really beautiful! I wanted to kiss her, but she told me she didn't want to, but I insisted and we started to kiss. I felt that warmth again, but not the rich texture. I started to drift off again and lost visual insight, and I could hear her « Why? I told you I didn't want to! ». I don't feel bad for doing so, or maybe just a little. I rubbed my hands again.

I came back to my bedroom. I went out again by the window. I started to fly again and looked at the scenery, a mix of forests and houses. I flied at high speed until I reached what seemed the entrance to a small city. They were two wooden houses on the outside, I want towards one and I found myself face to face with a black gangsta-style man holding two guns at me. I rushed him and he aimed at me. I was afraid I could die off the Second State, but I didn't. I flied to back off and went into the second wooden house. There was another black guy sitting at a table. No girl in sight, I wasn't in the good location! Outside, I wondered what to do next. I thought it could be intersting to fly as high as possible above. I remembered how scary it has been before for me... so I flied about 10 meters above and let myself fall to remember it wouldn't hurt to hit the ground. I decided to reach for the stars... and started to fly at rapid speed; I was a little afraid; I started to drift off again, I don't remember but maybe I rubbed my hands again. I saw an image of stars... and then Pikachu appeared! I was like « What the hell? Pikachu?! » It was like I was in the constellation of Pikachu. I could hear a song saying « Pika! Pika! Pikachu! » while a giant Pikachu was pulsating in front of me. It was funny! Then the scene switched to a video game « save file », it saved the « game » and I could see other datas. There was a data for japanese animes « Bleach » and « One Piece ». I was like... but they aren't PlayStation games! Then I woke up extremely happy! I scrolled down through the Facebook page of students of the group I am going to join soon to see if I could see any of the girl I met there. I didn't, but one of the profile I looked up was a girl and her pseudonym was « Pikachue »!

I would love to have some feedbacks! I haven't been able to project for a while. My life has totaly changed over the course of two months. I finally kicked drugs out of my life, I went to rehab... and came out on december 21! It was truly the end of a world for me and the beginning of a whole new brave one! I have been reading fascinating books. Strangely, I am reading the books of Seth and Robert Monroe first book, both which were publied in 1971-1972. I have started a writing project to create more love in our world. I am being much more creative than I ever was!... I'm about to start school and I want to meet a girl because one who search love can't get pass this! This is what lead me to seek it out in the Second State. My first experience is a success, but I am not sure I found that girl yet. So I am going to repeat the experience over and over until I am satisfied with the results. Do you have any suggestions I could use for orientation? I will update my thread once I have more results... I am truly curious to see how far it will go, and it sure it going to go far, because love knows no limits! :)
#46
Why not just keep a dream diary? It's probably the most efficient method! If you don't have enough time, just take some notes. I know keeping a diary can be boring... but I don't mind personally, if it can make my nights a fantastic and magical adventure, it's totally worth the efforts!  :-)
#47
Good evening! Yesterday, I shared my first AP in the experiences section (Voyage to Velis). There is something that I just remembered that I forgot to write down and it's pretty important I think. After achieving dissociation, while I was looking at my bed and found there was nobody in it... I could hear myself breathing loudly. It wasn't like hearing myself breathing while being inside my body, it was exactly like hearing someone else breathing in his sleep... but I was alone in my bedroom! When I finally decided to go outside of my room, I couldn't hear it anymore. This is the sole and only time it happened. For me, it is truly a proof that AP is truly happening out-of-body, but of course skeptics could claim I am lying, but I couldn't care less. Has it ever happened to anyone else? I will be gone for the next two weeks, just thought I would share this before I leave!  :-)
#48
Well the thing is I hate smoking! It taste terrible, there is no effect, it is just plain retarded. I started to smoke while I was doing opiates... which is pretty cool because the smoke is tasteless and it enhance the high of painkillers! Then it just became a stupid habit to fool boredom. Back in Robert Monroe time, smoking was quite popular and pretty much everyone was smoking... he may have achieved awesome things in the astral world, but that doesn't mean everything he was doing was smart. Sure it may have nothing to do with the ability to AP, but for my own well being, it would make a huge difference! I actually stopped and haven't smoked today and I am ready to go to bed. I feel pretty good about myself!...So anyway, if anybody experienced pain while attempting dissociation... please share. I can't believe it's only happening to me!
#49
For a long time, I thought I had HPPD - Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder - because of all the psychedelics, dissociatives and street drugs I used. For many years now, I have been seeing a indefinite aggregate of purple colour in-between my eyes, just where the Third Eye is located. I think I started to see it after spending countless hours singing the Gayatri mantra and doing meditation while tweaking on methamphetamine. I know I know, drugs are bad... I quit using... but the fact is that instead of crashing down, I have found myself into mystical states on some rare occasions! I will always remember when I saw the moon full aura and the light taking life in the night sky! That was simply incredible! So to keep myself calm, I would do meditation and sing mantras and use candles to focus on. I spent many many hours doing that... seriously most methheads are unable to do that because of all the stimulation they get.

Anyway after a while, I started to see the Third Eye chakra either eye closed or open eyes, overlapping on the physical layer of reality. Right now, it's just a bunch of sparkles... but if I meditate, especially with a focus point, it turns to a perfect little purple ball that either spin clockwise or counter-clockwise...  It can also appears as pulsating energy outwards or inwards. Rarely it has turned to a flower of ether! That was so beautiful! In any case, is there any use in seeing this? Also are they additional chakras on the right and on the left side of the Third Eye? When I look at a Shiva avatar with circles on right and left, I can see them spinning. When I tried ibogaine treatment to get clean from opiates, I could see the main purple chakra and two additional ones on both side. For some reason, I think the chakra was being used to boot each visions that the plant spirit gave me, because everytime a vision was falling apart from my vision, the chakras appeared and it sort of clicked to start another vision.

I know people involved in esoterism, OBEs, lucid dreams, paranormal activities try to dissociate themselves from drugs... but from my experience, there is no difference whenever it involves drugs or not, it's just that people doesn't want to be called out crazy druggies. By the way, I am not saying in any sort of ways you should use drugs! I EXPERIENCED HELL AND ALMOST DIED SEVERAL TIMES! It's a miracle I am still healthy and have my sanity!

As for the transpersonal chakras, I had a lucid dream where I was rising through multiple ceilings within a church while singing Ohm. I was show the picture of a man with two little balls over the head. The first ball started to flash and I could read BROADCASTING. Then i was offered to play a game to activate the second one but I failed. I knew nothing about the transpersonal chakras, I found it out on Wikipedia the next day. What happened, what does it mean when it says it is broadcasting? Is it of any use?



#50
I'm with you on this... except I won't say it's artificial, it still remains very real, even though in a way you could also say it's artificial... it's real and unreal, it's true and it's false at the same time... I think that in the eyes of God, there is no duality, so nothing is truly real neither isn't when you understand the principle of unity... I mean, not when you understand it, but when you actually experience unity! I hope that wasn't too confusing!  :-D