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heh , theres a bit more to it than that. Many suggest that you read the NEW energy ways that is available in the downloads section of this site. Its supposed to help with energy building. I dunno if it helps with Ki balls and such but I dont see why it wouldnt.  The thing your trying would only work if your a natural. You should learn a bit about how it is done before you stand there lookin like your crazy hehe. I try that 2 .. a lot during the day and I get feelings of warmth , some kind of magnetic feeling. Its only getting stronger for me each day now from using the NEW energy ways.  Best of luck to you , might wanna clarify why your traing to raise your energy in the first place cause if its for "proving" to your friends that its real. Well ... maybe ya have yer priorities outta line but its up to you.  I have a feelin that proving this stuff to people just makes it harder I dunno. Dont get me wrong , I too want to prove it to my friends but only so they might have an interest and open the new chapter in their life too. .. not just to freak them out and scare the crap outta them hehe.

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Well , I personally dont care about my reputation in school so I tell as many people as I can if I think they would be interested in it.. The people who mess with me soon get the conversation to in hopes of scaring them away from me hehe. I'm a freak and love bein one so people mostly go .."ooook...I knew he was wierd"  Its funny to see people not believe me but the people who I know closely are usually interested. I've so far gotten about 5 people interested in it. None try it as much as I do but I had one girl doing it for a few weeks but she couldnt stay motivated.  I'm planning maybe on telling my other friends about it since I already told them about my needle/blood/dagger fetish with my girlfriend. They will really go nuts to hear about this hehe.

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I think I'm about where you are , I get to a stage where I can hear voices , usually not much conversation wise but voices nonetheless.  I get the weird sounds also , metallic blinging sounds , popping sounds. I wonder if its the same stage.. it comes sometime after the hypnagogic imagery or sometime in between right ?  I let it slip away but mostof the time I am able to break the trance and wake up when I manage to get to that point .. I dont usually fall asleep after that stage like usual. If you get any help , I'll be monitoring this thread cause I'm not sure what to do either hehe.

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ahh I see now .. I've been doing it and I can start to feel the tingling.

You know.. I've checked out some stuff about Phasing to get into the astral and I heard from somehwere that you cant get into the physical plane from phasing ..or you cant get into the real time zone or something.  Is this true?

I ask this cause , I'm now trying to figure out how energy building will help me other than allowing me to be able to stay out of my body longer.  Whats the reason behind not being able to change planes when you phase?

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hmm..  I think I may be feeling the same thing you feel. Like .. my hands will get really hot and feel like they are gonna melt ? Same thing happends when I try to make a Ki Ball .. it just feels really hot and I have to stop and rub my hands. Is it like that for you 2 ?

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My guess would be karmic law.. maybe it wont be as effective if you tell others about how you do it.. I mean.. at least thats the gut feeling I get when that question arrises "Why shouldnt we tell people about it". I dont practice magick or anything but I've always had that feeling that if I could do anything special , I shouldnt tell anyone because it may risk me not being able to accomplish the stuff with much effectivness if I had told someone.

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I understand .. doesnt your energy "level" work like this ?

Imagine a cup of water .. filled half way.. the half way mark is your MAX energy limit .. when you do energy raising .. the cup starts to empty below the half way mark .. when it fills up .. the bup is now a little past the half way mark , increasing your MAX energy level.

Is that how it works ? I do get a lot of sleep on the weekends. I'll sleep from .. ohh... 4am . to ... 6 PM! thats like 15 hours give or take... sometimes more than that.. So I'm not really sleep deprived hehe.  What would you recommend doing say.. during school classes that doesnt involve much meditation .. if any at all ... I wanna do energy raising in any little moment of spare  time i have.

What do you guys think I should do ?

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I'll go ahead and summarize the basic questions hidden in that bunched up text =P



I'm not sure how to raise energy though .. is it through visualization? Or is it through feeling parts of your body like .. trying to feel your toes. . then bringing that awareness to your angles .. , shins .. knees .. thighs .. and higher ? Is that all you do really is focus on those parts of your body and your energy will start moving in your body?


What energy raising technique usually works best and what sensations do/should you get ?

How do I raise energy for astral projection specifically.

How do I raise energy or use energy for making Ki or Psi balls ? And how is it done , if anyone happends to know.  I've read somethings on the net but I dont understand what , "Imagine your energy going into your hands" means.. visualize it ? or use body awareness for it !?

Thanks

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I hope it doenst take that long for me to achieve another OBE.  I've been working specifically to get one for the past 3-5 months  and I'm getting closer and closer I know it.  I am very patient now and I'm not trying to force and OBE. I think hypnagogic imagery is an important factor in it .. If I watch it , I seem to be pulled into it and just fall asleep only to not remember much of anything when I wake up... If I try to ignore it .. some "stealthy" imagery gets up to me and konks me out.  I cant seem to avoid falling asleep.. thats my main problem.  Energy raising is something I need to do. I think I'll post something about energy raising cause I think it should go in a separate thread.  I've really been wanting to do some lately but I'm not sure how.. I dont see how the NEW energy ways allow for building energy up.. What do you do to raise energy and is it effective?

Ralph , I'm curious .. when you notice hypnagogic imagery.. what do you do ? Do you keep a clear mind ? Do you watch it or what ?

I think I'll change up my technique a bit . I'll do breathing until I notice the hypnagogic imagery and then I'll just keep a clear mind and ignore any thought. Its hard but I'll manage sometime. What do you guys ink about that ?..Jeez I cant help sounding like a little kid when I post here. Sorry guys, I'm 16.. maybe I'm just excited about astral projection. I'm taking my spiritual journy and I hope to learn a lot from this. I should take a break from posting Im getting bad vibes when I post things. I dunno..

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hmm .. well , iwas gonna get robert peterson's book just so I could let my girlfriend read something while I have the other 2 books. I want to get her into it too. I of course will read Astral Dynamics first , but I dont know really how the others are.. I've heard robert peterson's book is good and all but yea .. why buy it when its right there one the web =P Now it comes to a choice once more .. which book do I give to my girlfriend ?

Hey Rael , which out of the 2 , astral travel for beginners or the workbook .. which are better for someone who knows little to nothing about astral projection that would keep them interested and wanting to have their own OBE ?  I'll probably end up giving one of them to my girlfriend..

Maybe I'll buy
Astral Dynamics
and
Astral Travel For Beginners
and
The Astral Travel Workbook-How to Achieve Out-Of-Body experiences

..Which would you reccomend I let my girlfriend read while I'm occupied by Astral Dynamics?   The only reason I was gonna get robert peterson's book was to let my girlfriend read something I know is really good. But I could always print it instead for her or get it from one of my relatives hehe.. Maybe I'll get my aunt , cousin , and uncle to put up for it =P

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ahh thats right , something I forgot to mention is .. I do hear wierd sounds.. Sometimes voices .. sometimes popping noises. I had mentioned that something sounded liek a blown up paper bag hitting me in the head.. I hear noises like .. um..when you get a gold coin on the super mario game hehe.. kinda like a  "bling!" sound.  Followed by some kind of hypnagogic imagery *sometimes*.   So your saying I may be close to projecting?

You say that you usually project after you do some energy raising and then fall asleep? Heh.. that would be cool I know I'm real close but I'm mising something important.. I know I still have trouble with falling asleep.. I even dream about telekinesis and stuff now.. but I still dont realize it enough to project from the dream lol. I'll check out the phasing info.. I hope it doesnt mean I'll have to buy anything cause I really dont have much money at all. I'm lucky to be getting some books this Xmas Thanks Ralph

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guys , I'm troubled by something.. I dont get vibrations often enough to satisfy me.. Lucid dreams are nice and all.. but I dont know exactly how to enduce vibrations  ... I know I can get physical relaxation quite easily cause I recognize the hpynagogic imagery and I realize when I'm counting that the hypnagogic imagery starts to synchronize itself with my counting.
(for exaple .. last night I was counting my breathing and little red light bubls were being placed on a string that looked like Xmas lights..) I became aware of this but I also became aware that It had started counting the lights starting at like .. number 8 .. but I had really taken notice of this at a count of 12.. so I think I'm relaxed enough to get vibrations but they are not coming.

What should I do !!?

And about astral sight.. I read somehwer that you might not notice that you have astral sight..Can anyone elaborate on this?  When I do notice I have it .. I can induce the vibrations in my neck that allow me to have a concious exit straight into a lucid dream ( I'll very much settle for knowing how to realize I have astral site.. this is the key for my projections I think!!!!!!)

Any suggestions guys ? I'm sorry I have so many questions. I wish I could provide more help .. I can at least help people get to where I am with all the detail I give about my experiences hehe..

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I agree with Jeff on that one , sounds like a dream that you had a good memory of.  ..Well jeez Jeff you posted the exact same message I was gonna post anyway.  lol  Ill just leave out the part about lucid dreams cause you just said it.. grr..

Tell us more detail about the dream you had. Ask yourself these questions..

Did you realize you were dreaming ? What happened in it ? Did you make yourself wake up in the dream?

The vibrations may have come because you may have not moved around or woke yourself up too much and closing your eyes to imagine an image could make your body pretty much say "Ohh good were goin to sleep again..Vibrations .. TEN HUT!!"  if you would have remained relaxed and calm , you could have turned that into a full blown projection.  Next time when you wake up .. try not to move.. just realize your awake , close your eyes and do the same thing you did.  Vibrations are a good sign of a projection about to start. If I'm not mistaken , its usually the last step before the actual exit !! Thats a good sign LapSilap

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Congratulations man ! I'm happy for ya!  

I think you should tell her about it.. it seems like astral projection and OBEs are very important to you and if your keeping it from her.. think about what she is missing out on.  Who better to trust than her fiance I think you should tell her.. the sooner she knows , the sooner she may take an interest and experience for herself first hand. I can understand why you wanna have more control over it and do it by your own will before you decide to tell her. I'm kinda the same way about it with my girlfriend. I already told her that I wanted her to try to get into it with me but I'm not pushing the subject until I can do it as often as I want.  

PS: Maybe you could leave something out ( a book on OBEs ) or the astralpulse.com website on the computer screen so she could find out for herself first? It may strike more interest in her.. I dunno , thats just an idea I got.


Thats my 2 cents heh again congrats and best wishes to you both!

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heh , I'll try to answer as best as I can.. I change my way of doing things so much that nearly everytime I lay down to try and project , I always end up doing something different for different results.





>How do you get into this state? or, what is your method of relaxation???

Basically , I make sure nothing at all is bothering me when I lay down on my bed flat on my back. Arms straight down , mostly I'll just have them straight down with my right hand resting to the right of my right knee and the left hand to the left of my left knee on the bed.. sometimes I'll have them on my lap or my fingers will be interlaced and resting on my chest.. I change that up a lot.  Anyway , my relaxation method .. basically .. I will spend the first minute or so getting comfy , getting warm,  putting my blanket up to my neck , making sure I dont feel like Im being choked by the headphones I'm wearing ( the cord I mean ).   After that , I will start to do a "breath awareness" method found ( here http://www.kryten.demon.co.uk/astral/meditation.htm ).

Basically , I  breathe in then I say IN (mentally) and I count number 1 .. then I breathe out and say OUT (mentally) ... then I start over , breathe in .. say IN , count 2 ... breathe out ...  In simplest terms possible .. IN 1 OUT IN 2 OUT IN 3 OUT IN 4 OUT .. etc .. counting on the inhales only.  When a random dream-thought or hypnagogic imagery thought or image comes to push its way through my counting .. I start over at 1 .. pretty soon , I cant get past the number 4 heh.. This lets me know that I'm on the border of sleep. Basically , the breathing and counting thing gets me to that state where its hard to ignore the hypnogig imagery. I'm pretty much stuck as to what to do after I get it though. Thats why I posted here again.



do you do any energy raising???

I have been very very interested in doing it .. I learned about Ki and Ki balls and have been trying to mess around with it but I havent gotten too serious in it yet.. I have a gut feeling that I need to read more of the NEW energy ways before I'll have any chance at a projection into the physical plane ( my goal at the moment ). But really , I dont do energy raising at the moment. Or if I do .. I'm getting energy transferred to me from a friend so I'm almost cheating to raise my energy hehe.


>do you have any physical tension at this point???

Hmm physical tension .. I usually notice physical tension when I try to to a technique to get out .. like .. the rope .. I'll notice my whole body is kinda tensed up .. when I get rid of the rope image , is when I notice this tenseness and I just go limp again.. this is why I dont try to do techniques much as a means of leaving my body.  I've lately been trying to have lucid dreams to enduce an OBE.. something I didnt really want to resort to. Due to so much activity in my house lately , I've been using the BWGEN program to mute my surroundings so to speak. It works I guess.. at least it relaxes me and makes me feel strange sometimes. But ummm..I may have strayed from the question.. I really dont get much physical tension unless im doing a technique to get out .. so I have been focusing more on creating an image in my head and hopefully I'll get put into that "scene" into a lucid dream. I've been successful one time and hope to do it again tonight!

>do you hold your mind clear all the way through??? or do you mentally comment e.g. "wow, im in trance"

Heh..this is something I change up often..Let me think..When I'm doing the breath awareness thing, I try to clear my mind of everything except for the counting ... eventually that gets nearly impossible .. so then I take a moment to stop and ALMOST allow myself to fall asleep ( after playing around at the sleep border for a few months ,  youll know what I mean ) when I'm at the point of no return .. I'll  notice my body is numb .. the hypnagogic imagery is really strong and I can either ignore it and go back to counting and breathing or try to create an image in my mind and hope I have a lucid dream. Basically , i stop and do a check to see how relaxed I am. Yes I do comment to myself as I do this .. "Hmm my body is numb .. where are my hands !?.. I think they are here .. but I cant feel the bed sheets... hmm the cord from my headphones should run across my chin..  Idont feel that .. is it there?" I'll say things like that .. but watch it cause those things could make you fall asleep hehe...


If you have any more questions , I'll try to answer them.. I have a feeling that my guide is trying to tell me something.. basically the message my guide wants to get to me is "Experiment a little more , when you are exiting either through a lucid dream or full blown OBEs then I will teach you and you shall progress much further"   When I tried to talk to my guide through that lucid dream I had last night , I instantly got the thought to wake up out of it.. that really was quite wierd since I've been waiting to realize that I'm in a lucid dream so I could talk to my guide... I think it boils down to this ..  I need to learn more about what I'm doing and experiment a bit by myself before my guide will help me and teach me things. .. Does anyone else get that gut feeling?

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heh , it sounds to be like an OBE , some people have spontaneous OBEs but this one sounds more like .. exactly what you said.. someone was helping you do it.  Could be your guide helping you?  I'de say it was either an OBE that you werent ready for or a lucid dream.  How much do you remember the dream? I mean .. is it in great detail or were some pieces missing or what ?  The weak body also sounds like an OBE that left you quite drained. What does everyone else think ?

OBEs are very interesting and fun. I suggest you try to learn more about the experience you had and find ways to enduce it again. You could do things you never thought possible.  Have fun and good luck.

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hah , thanks Mayhem , I think we are pretty close in progress.. It feels exactly liek I dont know wher my hands are .. I woke up last night and tried to feel for them .. then moved them to see if I had pictured them i nthe right spot and I noticed that my right hand was waay over the my whole body and it was on top of my left hand .. I dunno why I was sleeping like that but .. hey I'm a wierd one ...

This is an experience I had last night. If anyone is intersted in readin it  , go ahead. If anyone wants to figure out what was going on or whatever please do so. I dont know why I had this lucid dream but it was quite vivid and as always , I trigger the re entry of my body by will and wake up with .. itchy body parts ....mostly my underarms , nipples and pubic hair region .. I dont know whats up with that but I go  nuts cause it itches so much after a lucid dream awakening lol.  
Oh and yes .. sleep always beats me too Mayhem =P I found though , I can sleep no matter how awake I am , give me 10 minutes =P
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Last night I decided to fall asleep with the brainwave generator and I woke up about half way through the next sound clip in my MP3 playlist .. (since I burned all the presets I liked onto my MP3 player).  I noticed that I had turned over on my side.  Luckily I still had the headphones on my head and was listening to what sounded like a rainstorm and the  high pitched woom woom sounds.  I realized .. "hey , I just woke up half way through the next preset."  This was wierd cause I didnt remember faling asleep or turning over on my side.  Then my alarm clock went off and I immediately reached for it to turn it off .. I noticed that my mind wasnt working like normal .. the alarm clock felt like the mp3 player .. they are totally different in shape .. one is skinny ( mp3 player) and one is a small cube shaped crappy alarm clock.  The feeling of the alarm clock didnt feel right but eventuall I managed to hit the snooze button.  Shortly after that , I got relaxed again and when I noticed I was just about to drift off to sleep , I mentally said " I wish to leave my body now..."  and .. I got some pretty wierd feelings .. I dont remember them very well but I know I had a lucid dream in someones house that I thought was my uncle's.. Strange though  , I've never seen it and I knew this wasnt his house.  I was walking around and saying " Clarity now!" and the scene or object I was focusing on , would change ..

I remember seeing something andI didnt know what the hell it was .. it was a cross between a coffee maker and an ash tray.. then I said "Clarity now!" and it turned into a fat round garbage can .. lol I dunno what was goin on but I explored the house and tried to pick out things to remember when I re entered my body or woke up. I opene someone's wallet to find a red velvet pocket in it with 3 buttoned up small pockets .. something read .. "something.......Afterlife"    and the pockets had some guy's nameo n them .. Burniel ? Burneal ?  I dunno what it was , started with a B.. I was havin trouble reading the names.  Then I said .. ok I dunno where I'm at so I decided to call out for my guide.... When I said "I wish to speak to my guide"  I actually heard my voice say it .. sounded like me in the dream but louder .. I dunno how to explain it.. then I got a feeling of vertigo and thats when I tried to feel for my physical body.. when I did , I woke up .. I felt very very itchy ... my ..heh my nipples were itching , my knees , legs , and head was itching a lot 2...  It was a very strange experience indeed.  A lucid dream in an unknown environment  that I thought I knew it was my uncles house but should have known he didnt live in this house.. I dont konw where I was..I cant believe I didnt realize that everything was too strange.. yet I was able to control it and ask for my guide and everything.. I dunno what triggered it but I remember it from start to finish.. I think I noticed the hpynogogic* imagery and imagined a water well.. then it took shape and soon ,  iwas outside that house looking at the well I had pictured and it put me right into the scene.  

Sorry that was so long , maybe someone could get some ideas from it. I like to post in great detail to help others and myself at the same time. I get people every now and then that page me in instant messenger and tell me how somethign I posted , worked for them =P

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another thing i forgot to mention .. I dont know exactly what this was but .. when I'm deep in trance .. or at least , I get the numbess and hypnogic stuff .. any noise will send this crazy ... feeling.. through my whole body.. like .. almost like the feeling you get when someone scares the crap outta you but it doesnt make me jump.. it just feels like a ripple of .. feeling.  

And another thing , when my dad came into the room to try and blow out my candle (lol) I noticed it and told him not to .. when he left the room .. it felt like I had just done somethign to get me out of breath .. my body wasnt moving like it was breathing heavy but I got that feeling of my chest going up and down fast like I was out of breath .. this feeling spread to my arms .. felt like my arms were goin up and down.  I dunno if it was vibrations or what but my heart wasnt pumping fast at all to have this feeling.  Sorry thats my crappy explanation of it. Just felt like everything was out of breath and was trying to breathe.. was it vibrations? or atl east subtle ones ?

Thanks for the detailed post , I always like to read those.  

Heres what I seriously think you should try.. it seems that you kinda got the same feeling that I got one night when  I had a successful projection .. sorta right into a lucid dream .. I didnt fall asleep first .. just went straight into it..

When you said "Pulsations When climbing the ROPE, the vibrations seemed to pulsate with every climbing stroke."

I got strong vibrations in the back of my neck everytime I started to try to float over to the corner of my ceiling .. when I stopped trying to fly there, they would go away .. when I started to fly to the ceiling again , they would start up .. what I did to make this effective was .. I tried to hold the feeling for as long as I could concentrate .. I tried to fly to the ceiling and I put up with the somehwat uncomfortable vibrations in my neck for a good 10 or 15 seconds and this created the feeling of me rolling off the bed .. it was strange but it all kinda took on an "Auto-Pilot" feeling and I just let the rolling off the bed feeling flow .. soon , I was out , fully aware of my surroundings and looking at my floor cause I was floating over it..

What I suggest is , when you climb the rope and get the pulsing vibrations , try to hold that vibration for as long as you can .. maybe imagine not stopping the climbing .. whatever keeps that vibration without stopping it .. go with it .. make that vibration last until the Auto-Pilot effect kicks in and you realize you can see ... my vision came when I was about 3 feet away from my body and I realized .. "hmm.. I still cant see" WHAM I got vision.  

Good luck , sorry if you have to translate some of this =P!

what is frank's technique !? Where did you find it ? heh

I've been doin energy raising now and I looked up some stuff on Ki .. I have been practicing making an energy ball in my hands but all I get is warm feelings .. ever since I started doin that .. I usually get feelings of my hands and/or arms being really warm kinda like they are about to melt or something when I try to project.  Is this from energy raising ?  NEW energy ways teaches you how to "feel" for parts of your body and its supposed to do something with energy.. is that like .. making energy flow to that part of your body so you become more "aware" of it ? Is this the process involved in a Ki ball or something? I'm trying to figure out exactly what energy raising is and what to feel and even how to do it.

Yea my bedroom was generally the same .. the pile of cards on my nightstand was arrange diferently .. I saw a Card castle on there that wasnt really there =P just 3 cards stood up.  My poofy chair was in a different spot . A lot of the other stuff was in the same spot. Just a few things different.

So whats the difference in the real-time plane and the physical plane ?

What can I do to change that experience into something real so I can actually test the card theory again to see the real card? Hehe

How do you explain that exit technique ? I mean it wasnt hard , I wasnt like focusing much at all AND I was laying on my side...its quite odd.

thanks a bunch guys , I'm gonna try to get my parents to buy me some of those books mentioned , i'll read that online book too.  I'll start practicing again tonight.. I'm kinda too tired but I'll see where that leads me.  I hope that these books will help me to project cause I really need help here hehe.

holy crap ! I hope I dont lose my energy from ejaculation... that would explain my failed attempts... hrrmf... hehe,  Well , I would have to agree with you that it has to be bull****.  I mean , thats insane..    

About question number one

 , "Does anybody have any suggestions on exercises/training I could do to improve my focus?"

I would suggest tryinga different technique other than rope ? Theres a whole bunch of other things.  Rope has never really worked for me and it may be cause of the same reason that your havin trouble with it .. heres a good site to try for other techinques.  http://www.whiteoakdesign.net/timekillers//astral/000_mainscreen.html

I think its  in the .. methods section  ?I dunno but it lists like 30 techniques you could try. Good luck , I too am havin problems bro.