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Interesting, reminds me very much of Robert Monroe bands that surround the Earth.

As michael says, lazynes is a real killer, you realy got to punch it, but its good to be detached too, every one has them, they are no real big deal, since its our nature.

this makes me think of this..http://www.cezyl.com/overall/4thd.htm

Good topic, I have been at this for 2 years now, my dry spells vary, there have been times when i had periods of obe that would go near one week, and every day i could exit 8 or more times, then some thing would happen, i would stay up to late, mess my sleep schedule or job interfered, sickness such as flu, how ever i do manage to pop one out every 5 days or so, or more 7, i seem to average this, even if they are not fully fledged, i still do manage to get out in ways, how ever, it seems to be one step forward, one back, 2 side ways etc, what annoys me is striving for consistency, one and more per day would be killer, but small steps, it isn't ability that stops me, but my body that some times does not want to cooperate with me, so some times i end  up wide awake tossing and turning, but dont get me wrong, i am not complaining..

About the whole cord thing, from my experiences, which are similar to upstreams in that regard, the actual cord it self is quite thick, how ever, the mystery lays in the smaller cords that are quite a few of them, I have broken them and heard snapping sounds as I did. Also quite a while ago, I gently tugged the cord  (please no juvenile jokes lol) on the back of my head, which made quite an unpleasant electrical like feeling in my astral head, the following few days after the back of my head was quite sore.

whoa cool dude, hope to see the pics

quote:Originally posted by Jenadots

Yea and Yippee....women dancing in the streets.  A shot of something to make husbands faithful.  

And just when they all got Viagra![]

since when is that men are ONLY unfaithfull? come come now, i think the ladies too like to try out Mr Jimmy D from else where.

And how would they be false in the begining?

well thats just it, we are 4 years into the 21st century, and what do we get? this! where are thy flying cars and hoverboards damn it []

yeah guys know, this is an interesting topic, i have had an experience late last year like this, i woke up, stood up in bed, open my eyes, then within a second or two latter, i was outside instantly! there was no get down to lay down or any thing, it could of been just in out of body state already, but meh, very interesting.

Here is a great experience i took from,
http://www.homestead.com/louisobe/files/Chapter_5.htm
and
http://www.homestead.com/louisobe/louisobe.html

"7/29/98

Had difficulty falling asleep. Around three fifteen I fell asleep. I briefly entered the mind/awake body/asleep state, then it diminished. The numbing effect startled me because I was not expecting it. I got up for a while and read a book until three forty-five AM. I laid down and decided to visit J if I entered the state again. I focused on J and immediately found myself at a location resembling my work place. I noticed that there was a strange illumination and trying to find the light source, I looked up. There was no ceiling. All I could see was a deep darkness that seemed to stretch into infinite. I used my sense of radar to perceive what was beyond the four walls, more nothingness. I heard a continuos noise which I knew was a box tape dispenser. Following the noise I found J making boxes and using the tape dispenser. I went over to him to see what he was doing OOB. I noticed that his eyes were closed. He was performing his work duties effortlessly with his eyes closed. I reasoned to myself that he must be dreaming and decided to wake him to see if he could realize the OOBE. I began shaking him, when this did not work I began slapping him. He began mumbling and when he opened his eyes we disappeared from this location. Suddenly we were in a dark room with him lying on a bed and me over him. I began yelling at him "You are out of body, you are out of body!" He began to reconnect with his physical body. When he reconnected he became less distinct, almost transparent. There was also some sort of turbulence which I felt when he reconnected. I decided to reconnect with my physical and focused gently. I merged with the physical and turned my head to see the time. The time was four-thirty AM "but wait, I do not have a digital clock." I opened my eyes and saw my clock, it read four-thirty AM. Somehow I was seeing a digital clock with my eyes closed. I wrote this down. Time away was forty-five minutes.

Afterthoughts

* Where was this replica work place located at?

* What was the darkness that I perceived surrounding this replica work place?

Confirmation

When I got to work I approached J and without disclosing anything about the experience I asked him if he had experienced anything peculiar. He said that he had trouble getting a good nights sleep. I asked him if he remembered anything and he said yes. He had a couple of dreams. In one of these dreams he was at work making some boxes. I asked him if he had awakened anytime during the night. He said that he usually would wake up several times a night to drink water or use the restroom. I asked more specifically if he had awakened in an unusual way and after a couple of moments he said, "Yes, I woke up for no apparent reason with a jump and for some reason I looked at the clock. The time was four-thirty AM." I thanked him for the info and since he is also a person interested in the paranormal I disclosed my side of the story. He loved it. By the way, he says he has a digital clock next to his bed."

I can verify that this guy is genuine as he is my friends, friend.

Very cool thread guys, oh if any one is interested, get the book called "mindsight" i think, its about blind people having nde's, very good so i have heard, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0966963008/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/104-0415852-3810358?v=glance&s=books&vi=customer-reviews&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER

quote:Originally posted by BOATS

Look at www.ghostpix.com    This is a very good site and I am sure will keep you busy for awhile and probally awake tonight too looking behind you.  Good Luck

Hmm they support Bush, that cant be good at all.

hmmm
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/skeptic09.html

Yeah its a shame though, be good to get more concrete stuff, I guess thats the way it is with these matters

i would personaly recomend very large photos of scenes of nature, such as waterfalls, flowers, birds etc you can get them from newsagents and what not.

very interesting, about the negatives, is the orbs especialy that realy red one in the second pic, contained within the frame of the negative or does it bleed into from the groove holes on the negative? i ask this to make sure it isnt light entering the back of the camera, cool stuff man

Well according to this article http://www.soultravel.nu/2004/040419-no_progress/index.asp
Only a mere 2 months of research has been put into these matters in the last 100 years!

interesting, do you have the negatives on you?

Well i must say that was hillarious [] satrical humour is good

hahah is that for real?

quote:Originally posted by APGuy

quote:Originally posted by manuel

quote:Originally posted by APGuy

I was very surprised in reading this topic that noone mentioned The Monroe Institute.  As we know it now The Monroe Institute is famous for Hemi-Sync.  However, it was started by a Dr. Monroe who experienced OBEs without trying and wanted to better understand them.  He held experiments with eight digit random numbers in other rooms entirely.  They have documented cases with at least a thousand positive results for all eight correct or the eight that were correct being reversed by the person.  This is, unfortunately, a little known fact.  This is my understanding at least.[]

Whoa, since when did Rob Monroe do these experiments? Do you have any links? I do know he did do an experiment I think in the 60's or 70's with Charles Tart, he didn't make it to the numbers, but he did see stuff that was quite spot on in the book, but I am very interested in these experiments you mention with the eight numbers.

I don't have any links.  I got this information from a book on OBEs in my local library.  It gave several summaries of some of these.  I remember one where they put it in another room.  On the first attempt the person said they couldn't see it because their body in that form was to short.  They put in a stool and the person climbed up to get the numbers dead on.  Another they put it in the rafters and the person said they floated up to find the numbers.  They gave it to the scientists but in reverse.
This is how I remember it.  If you would like I could double check some time when I go to the library for the title.  I remember that the book was thin and black covered.  It had case histories of OBEs and NDEs.  It even mentioned Dr. Monroe's method along with these experiments.  It had silver text for the cover and was actually part of a series about paranormal subjects.  I believe that this was the book, I know that there was a book like this that was very good, but it may not be the one with the experiments.  Hope that helps but I can't remember the details precicely having read this about two years ago or more.

Yeah man, if you do stumble upon it, I would be interested in knowing the name, i have heard about these experiments.

quote:Originally posted by APGuy

I was very surprised in reading this topic that noone mentioned The Monroe Institute.  As we know it now The Monroe Institute is famous for Hemi-Sync.  However, it was started by a Dr. Monroe who experienced OBEs without trying and wanted to better understand them.  He held experiments with eight digit random numbers in other rooms entirely.  They have documented cases with at least a thousand positive results for all eight correct or the eight that were correct being reversed by the person.  This is, unfortunately, a little known fact.  This is my understanding at least.[]

Whoa, since when did Rob Monroe do these experiments? Do you have any links? I do know he did do an experiment I think in the 60's or 70's with Charles Tart, he didn't make it to the numbers, but he did see stuff that was quite spot on in the book, but I am very interested in these experiments you mention with the eight numbers.

Yes its inside the head...and also outside of it, oh humanity makes me cringe when it comes to stuff about the mind, we have barely understood it, but bah im not touching this topic we all know where that goes... i dont care.

lol i was only jokin around []