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This is a great trick. It works everywhere. When you read the the above box, did you say the - the or did you see the "double the". If you you did, did you catch it in this little blurb???

You can do this at the office, in school, or even at a bar. Write down a phrase and repeat words like the - at -or - and. You'll see that most people are fooled.

Here it is:

Greetings Kazbadan,

First of all, if you liked Deus Ex, here are some screenshots from the new version of Deus Ex for the Xbox: Dues Ex Invisible War:
(by the way, some of the pixels look jagged because the images have been resized)




Although I don't play them myself, here are some good horror games coming up (and some that are already released):

Silent Hill 3 (ps2):






THE SUFFERING (PS2 Action Horror):



Shade: Wrath of Angels (xbox):

Hardcore's Hardcorner:
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

By Hardcore

Are you hardcore?

When Hardcore asks "Are you hardcore?" Hardcore wants to know if you're ready to take the hardest path to victory. If you're looking to get the most kills in any given game, be it Soldier of Fortune II or WWE RAW 2 or Fairly-freakin'-Oddparents. If you never take the easy way out of any situation. If you've never used a cheat code unless it meant smaller bikinis, flying kidneys, or maybe both. If you know that there's really only one difficulty setting—difficult as all hell.

If that's you, you came to the right place. Here in Hardcore's Hardcorner, we're going to show you the most challenging—and if at all possible, carnage-inducing—ways to play the best Xbox games.

If You Only Knew the Power ...
Right. First up, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (if you already figured that out from the title, give yourself a peanut). Of all the games on Xbox right now, there are few if any that give you these kind of hardcore choices.

First, you've got the choice between light side and dark side—are you going to help the Jedi save the galaxy, or side up with the Sith? From what you've read, you probably think Hardcore's going to recommend dark side. And you're right. But you don't necessarily have to follow that path, the light side can be just as challenging as the dark side in its way. Maybe more so—in a galaxy at war, folks are always suspicious and spoiling for a fight, which makes it a little easier to slide into evil. But we're going dark here simply to rack up the body count.

Oh, and there might be some minor spoilers ahead for the game. Deal with it.

Am I Evil?
KotOR's storyline is pretty involving whichever way you go, so if you haven't got the stomach for some of the following, go running back to the Council and let them send you out for Force donuts.

Wipe them out. All of them. There's usually a dialog-based way to attack (or prompt an attack from) many quest-spouting NPCs, especially those you would normally befriend when playing a soft and cuddly light-sider. Insults lead to injuring. You'll be missing out on a few heroic quests that net XP, and a few items those characters might have given you won't get given. As a servant of evil, you'll need to make up the difference with slaughter, prying the items and experience from their cold, dead appendages. See? Balance to the Force, baby.
If they could be turned ... So you say you've racked up the dark side points with abandon, but your Jedi pals are still all up in your face about protecting the innocent and not eating them and stuff like that? Bring 'em over to the quick and easy path (or so that lying Obi-Wan said) by giving them as many Dark Side powers as you can.
Walk away from the light. When it comes to you, "give in" to the Dark Side. Dark side force powers are going to be violent and aggressive by their very nature. So, even though light side powers are often the ones that enhance your fighting skills and restore health, don't chicken out! Resist the desire to take the Cure power or Force Valor; those will only slow your slide into darkness. Wait for Drain Life, a higher-level dark side power that restores your health while Lestat-ing those points away from your enemies. Until then, rely on equipment for defense and healing. You'll have more credits as a dark-sider from all the corpses you'll be picking over, so stock up on energy shields, battle stimulants (you're going to become a stim junkie, accept it) and medpacs.
Keep one hand free. Yeah, Darth Maul had a double-bladed lightsaber, and ooh, ah, wasn't that cool, Johnny Fanboy? Sure, but it's a little tired. Hardcore dark siders specialize in the Dueling feats and leave the Two-Weapon fighting to Bastila and Carth. You'll have better attack and defense scores, but miss out on the extra attack per round. That means longer, more satisfying one-on-one fights, but it also means you'll have to be a lot more choosy when it comes to saber crystals.
Play dress up. Early on, you'll have a chance to nab some Sith armor. To see how everyday folks react to the silvery Sith (and spook 'em a little, maybe even into attacking you) keep wearing the armor or put it on Carth, just to give the "haircut" the heebie-jeebies. People on Taris can be the most gullible people in the galaxy.
Quick and Easy, My Butt
As Hardcore has repeated over and over, the difficulty setting can only do so much in terms of ratcheting up the challenge. Keep the following in mind if you want to be not just evil, but hardcore evil.

Choose a strength and stick with it. Don't take the default attribute settings when building your character, that's for unimaginative suckers. In KotOR, your stats are divvied up into physical stats (Strength, Dexterity, Constitution) and mental stats (Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma). Strength affects melee and lightsaber attacks, Dex will give you better defense and skill with ranged weapons—guns and grenades. If you try to raise both evenly, you're not likely to reach your maximum deadly potential. As a rule of thumb, soldiers should max out Strength and keep Dex low (Dexterity-reducing armor will make up for it) and scoundrels should do the opposite. Scouts can go either way. And whatever class you choose, no dark-sider should start with a Con below 12, you'll need the VP for all the fights you're going to start.
There's hardcore, and there's stupid. Don't be stupid. Only an idiot goes into a vibroblade duel with a hold-out blaster. There's challenging, and there's suicidal. Remember, hardcore players meet challenges and succeed.
Auto-pause, or not-a-pause? There's two schools of though on this one—setting the auto-pause options to stop at the end of each combat rounds gives you amazing fine control in combat and the chance to change your mind in mid-fight, especially when the Wookiee fur starts flying. It's a very direct and, yeah, hardcore way to play. But Hardcore prefers the added chaos and difficulty—remember, this is about challenge, junior—of the free-flowing game. And if you get in a really tight spot, it ain't like the white button's fallen off the controller. Just pause already and stop whining.
A load of poodoo. Finally, and this is almost as controversial as the auto-pause issue—do you save after every fight and before each challenge? Or do you bull through and accept the consequences, even if it means missing a quest. Well, yes and no. Personally, Hardcore saves and reloads for two and only two things in KotOR—duels and swoop races. These are special cases that are more like athletic competitions. And if you ain't competitive, you ain't hardcore. On the other hand, Hardcore never reloads a "botched" conversation. For one, ain't no such thing, all conversations in KotOR have some result (even if it's not the result you're looking for, to coin a phrase) and two, there's just no challenge if you can go back and make things turn out another way. What're you, Marty Mc-freakin-Fly?
You Got a Problem with That?
You probably have your own opinions on what's hardcore and what ain't. This is more than turning the difficulty to eleven, Johnny. Hardcore's a method, not a setting, and what Hardcore tells you ain't always the only way. If you think you're so smart, Hardcore wants to hear from you, if only to make fun of you or steal your ideas. Send you hardcore tips to hccorner@hotmail.com. Hardcore might even credit you, but don't count on it.
Hate mail's also welcome. Hardcore can always use a good laugh.

Yours in gaming,
Hardcore

A few more screenshots from KOTOR:

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Squeek, you said you "Have heard much bad things about this game..." about Knights of the Old Republic???  It has recieved raving reviews from almost every critic and, like I mentioned before, people are going out to get the Xbox just to play it.  Although some people have surely found legitimate reasons not to like it, it seems obvious that by and far this is a very well made game with amazing graphics and solid gameplay.

Here is some info about it:

Reviews from gamers themsleves:

Finally after 2 years it has arrived. This is a truly rich RPG the xbox needed.

Job well done. BioWare has done it again. They have made another RPG that has caught the appeal of the public. Lucas arts made a good choice in letting them develop this game.

With their new game " Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic". A game set four thousand years before Episode 1 you will have the force to command. In either following the path of the lightside, or the path of the darkside is up to you, the player and the creator of your character. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic gives you hours upon hours of game play, which seems like a never-ending struggle between good and evil. There is a lot of character dialogue in which you choose what your are going to converse in with the A.I. characters and other members of your party. This also determines how the characters will respond to you during the conversations


So lets get started.


When you first pop in the disc. You can now create your character of 3 classes and either male of female. The classes are scoundrel, (which usually relies on their stealth and persuasive skills to get through.) the second one is scout, (people who are good with knowing their surroundings and have good awareness.) and lastly you have the soldier,

(They claim he has no equal in combat.) Then you can make your character male or female.

You start of on a capital cruiser that has been bombarded and attacked by the sith. You have to escape the ship and aid one key character in this whole plot. Once you have left the ship via escape pod, you crash land on a planet called Taris, which has a planet wide quarantined and there is no way to get off the planet with out being melified in to a million pieces by the sith capital ships orbiting the planet.

You wake up and it seems you are just another republic soldier who was on that ship and swore an oath to protect and girl named Bastilia. She is a Jedi and is key to helping the republic in their battle againsed the sith. Later on you team up with her and 8 other party members to find star maps that lead to the star forge. Which is key to supplying the sith with their unlimited arsenal of weapons, ships and supplies.

After teaming up with the other party members, you embark on your journey to become a Jedi and either save the galaxy or dominate it. Like creating your character with 3 classes, when you become a jedi there are three classes again to chose from, there is the jedi guardian, jedi sentinel, and the jedi councilor. Chose between any one of the classes and the effect will be slightly different in the game. Again, this game lets you customize your characters and your party members to the maximum, which is a good option to have I a game of this caliber.

Knights of the old republic is easily a good 40-50 hours long and you will be visiting planets and key locations of the star wars locals like Kashyyyh home planet of the wookies, the desert world of Tatooine, Dantooine where a jedi academy is rumored to be on this planet, Then there is some newly added planets like the water world of Mamman, and the sith planet of Korriban where there is a sith academy.

On each of these planets there is the main quests and there are side quest. For example you can be and arbiter for a murder case to finding a cure for a deadly disease, or even helping other characters out wile on the planets. But you probably wont even do all of the side quests because you mostly will be concentrating on finding the star maps.

Inevitably along the way you will face your grand foe and his henchmen in different location and the occasional Dark Jedi.

Well its pretty obvious that you will have to asses force powers later on in the game, if you are a jedi following the light path, if you want darkside powers like force lightening and force grip, they will cost more force points than lightside powers like cure and valor. Then it goes for the people following the dark path except it's backwards.

In this game there are a lot of mini games. There is swoop racing which is similar to pod racing except you are using swoop bikes instead of pod's, then there is a game called Pazzak. This is basically a card game similar to 21 and blackjack. The first person to 21 wins or you can bust you deck by going over. Then there is a mini game where you set a destination to another planet and along the flight you get attacked by sith fighters and you have to defend your ship from them by blasting 6 of them out of the air before you can make the jump to hyper speed.


The game has good game play and its long. The combat system could be better but I like it like this its turn based. But real-time would have been better.

The sound is a bit glitchy at times but hardly noticeable. the graphics indeed is the best part of the game and the cut scenes in the game are outstanding. The only minor thing is the lip sync is a bit off. But all in all the value of the game is good. The cost of the game is regular price and they even throw in a strategy guide and you get the bundle 20% off and this is at EB. I tilt the game towards a ten cause I think I think this game is amazing i played both ends of the game, The light path and the dark path.


This game has come a long way. From being announced 2 years ago at E3 2001, I was watching the live xbox conference and when I saw the clip of this game I was in aw. I put my money aside for this game right away and I got my money's worth it. From the quality of the game you can see the there was a lot of work and effort put into it and all I can say is if you love RPG's get this game. Of your love Star Wars, get this game. You don't have to be a fan of either to appreciate it but if you like one of the themes that's its either rpg's, or star wars get this game. It is a must buy.


And may the force be with you.


By: Bernard Lorde

By Jedi_Master_Bernard  [POSTED: 2003-08-29 11:16:30]


This is a truely great RPG. The fighting is the best I've ever seen in my life! This best part is when you use a lightsabre against another lightsabre, it's flawless! But the other thing is the cast of characters in this game. They are all so unique in their own way. My favorite character is the droid who enjoys killing things. It's just plain fun to hear the characters reactions to what you say. You can also have complete control over what alignment your character is. It's really fun to just goof around and mess with people than being a goody-goody, but it's totally up to you. This is one of the best games I've ever played next to the Final Fantasy games for the Playstaion!
By Wyatt963  [POSTED: 2003-08-21 20:22:23]

For a console lacking in the RPG department, Star Wars: Knights of The old Republic (KOTOR) couldn't come at a better time. BioWare (Developer of Everquest fame) pulls through for Microsoft's console with a hit to Star War's fans and other Xbox owners alike. KOTOR certainly gives the Xbox another "AAA" game. Its story, gameplay and graphics are all something to be desired in other games. And gives Western RPGs a decent shot at competing with the likes of Final Fantasy.
KOTOR was announced with a very interesting gameplay element, the ability to make your character follow the Light Side (Good) or the Dark Side (Bad). This is what attracted gamers (Such as myself) to KOTOR. This element gives the player much more freedom in the game, rather than following a set story line. That this element exists however, might not be the best part of the deal, but rather how it is implemented.

Throughout the game, the player is given options, whether to do or say something good or bad. For example, on the first world, a civilian is being harassed by a group of thugs, you can either help him for free, or help him, then threaten to kill him unless he gives you all his money. Obviously, one leads to the Light Side, the other to the Dark Side. It is also emphasized that doing things the way of the Light Side will be harder than the Dark Side way. Like, in your quest to find an item, a large monster blocks your way, you can poison the water, which will ruin the planets water supply forever, or you can find another way around. Choices like these even lead up to which ending you get, or even what kind of clothing, powers you can use.

But this isn't limited to your main character, all of the people in your party (You can choose up to three from a total of nine.) have the Light/Dark side meter. Some characters are dark, light or neutral when you pick them up on your quest. Your relationship with these characters depends on how you react to their stories, or whether you are on the Dark/Light side.

You are also given the option to pick what type of class you want your character to be (Scoundrel, Scout or Soldier) whether you want it to be a him or a her and what type of stats it should have. There about ten different faces to choose from, however, as you progress through the game, your characters complexion will change depending on which path you choose. Also, the game generates Star Wars type names, so that the player isn't limited to having a name related to a character in one of the Movies.

The gameplay is extremely solid, the difficulty never gets too hard, and rarely gets too easy. If the player listens to the instructions given, they shouldn't have too much of a problem grasping what do to. However, it might be a bit confusing to most people. Up until the end, I found no problems with the game, however I felt the last level was a bit weak, and I experienced some type of bug where my character had no head. It didn't affect the gameplay itself, but just looked a little funky.

There are more than a few weapons and armor to choose from. And you might want to specialize your characters for melee or ranged combat. However, the lightsabers are certainly the best weapon (No surprise there). You can even customize your lightsaber, such as changing the color, or adding different affects (Stunning your enemies, deflects blaster bullets better, does more damage, is more focused). You can also get everything from heavy battle armor, to Jedi Robes (Sorry guys, no Darth Maul-like robes). I did not really come by any guns that made me want to pocket my lightsaber however. Some of the higher-grade weapons and armor are upgradeable, which saves you from having to buy new ones that often.

Of course, being a Jedi and all, your character will get the ability to use Force Powers. Some of these are Dark/Light side specific, like Darth Vader's famous "Choke" ability. You can also throw your lightsaber for ranged attacks. How many and how powerful these Force Powers are depends on your character's type and level.

The graphics are solid as well, though not top-notch for the Xbox. Everything from character models, to environments, to particle effects are nicely done. The sound fits a Star Wars game very nicely, but isn't something your going to remember down the road, probably because you've heard the various Star Wars themes already.

The game was certainly worth the fifty or so bucks you'll be investing in it. I am currently working through it a second time on the Dark Side. I beat it in about 54 hours, though that could be the product of leaving my Xbox on all night once or twice. I'd say it will take 30+ hours to beat the first time through for most people. Also remember to save often, as I have died and lost more than an hours worth of work more than once, but, a neat feature to fix that, is if you go into a different area (Where it has to load.) after fifteen minutes of being in that area, it will automatically save for you. All in all, BioWare did a very nice job for this stellar Star Wars RPG.


By ProletarianRevolution  [POSTED: 2003-08-20 15:40:58]


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OFFICIAL REVIEW (Gamespot):

 

GameSpot Score  
 

 




9.1
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 Difficulty:
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Learning Curve:
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GameSpot Review  

Canadian developer BioWare is well known for producing high-quality role-playing games, thanks to its successful Baldur's Gate series, and offers up what is in many ways its finest such game to date in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. LucasArts wisely delegated the task of producing a deep and involving Star Wars-themed RPG to BioWare, which has done a remarkable job of making Knights live up to the Star Wars name. In fact, Knights arguably lives up to the Star Wars name better than any other Star Wars property in years, including the last two theatrical films. The game's greatest accomplishment is its focused yet open-ended plot progression, which gives you the freedom to play as either a morally good or evil character, or shades in between. The struggle between good and evil is of course central to Star Wars and manifests itself extremely well throughout this outstanding game. For good measure, Knights features hours and hours of top-notch voice-over (all the dialogue is spoken), so you'll certainly be impressed by how different characters respond differently to you but also by the sheer size of the game.



Knights takes place thousands of years before the Star Wars films, but you'll recognize a lot of the technology.
The Xbox needed another great RPG--one that was more accessible than last year's great but sometimes-bewildering Morrowind--and it's finally here. Those who've played BioWare's computer RPGs--either the Baldur's Gate series or last year's Neverwinter Nights--will recognize the influence of those games on Knights of the Old Republic. In fact, the main difference between the gameplay of Knights and BioWare's previous games is superficial. This one is played from a third-person perspective and thus resembles a 3D action adventure game rather than one of BioWare's older isometric RPGs.

Other than that, gameplay is similar. You create a main character and then explore many different areas, interact with many different characters, settle many different disputes, solve many different puzzles, and engage in plenty of combat. Combat appears to be real-time but actually uses a turn-based system "under the hood" just like Neverwinter Nights, which means your character's statistics and attributes (and your strategy) make all the difference, and your personal reflexes and hand-eye coordination have no bearing on the outcome. Most importantly, Knights is very different from the typical console RPG in that you'll always be an active participant in the storyline, rather than a passive observer. You don't just read, watch, and listen to a lot of text, cutscenes, and dialogue--your character is constantly invited and required to make difficult decisions, and that's ultimately the most entertaining, impressive, and rewarding aspect of the game.



You'll meet a wide variety of interesting characters in the game, a number of whom will join you in your journey.
Knights of the Old Republic actually takes place thousands of years before Star Wars Episode I, though you'll still see many of the same sorts of alien creatures and technology in the game that you probably associate with Star Wars. The story begins in the midst of a power struggle between the Republic and the Sith, an evil imperial power that's encroaching on Republic space. Your character seems to be just another Republic trooper, and at the beginning of the game, you manage to avoid certain death as your spaceship is attacked and destroyed. Your escape pod lands on a world that's been put under quarantine by the Sith, so your first order of business is to find a means of escape, and also to find out what happened to Bastila, a gifted young Jedi who is key to the Republic's war efforts and who also managed to flee your doomed ship. Later, you'll be charged with uncovering the secrets of an ancient relic called the star forge, apparently the key to the Sith's seemingly limitless supply of weaponry.

You'll end up visiting a number of key Star Wars locations, including the wookiee homeworld of Kashyyyk and the desert planet Tatooine, in what's by all means an adventure of epic proportions. The game's main storyline isn't remarkable and eventually boils down to squaring off against your standard bad guy, and the main plot twists along the way don't really seem plausible. But you'll encounter so many great little subplots and characters along the way that this really won't matter. You'll investigate murders, become a bounty hunter, resolve cultural disputes, find a cure for a deadly disease, take sides or play both sides against each other in various ambiguous conflicts, and find out how life really treats both citizens of the Republic and followers of the Sith. There's just a lot to see and do in this game, and it'll last you a good 40 hours or so from start to finish, yet you'll never see all that the game has to offer if you finish it only once.


 
 

GameSpot Review  

It may seem strange, but Knights of the Old Republic actually uses a slightly simplified version of 3rd Edition Dungeons & Dragons rules both for combat and for character generation. So despite the obviously different setting, fans of BioWare's D&D-themed games will be in relatively familiar territory here. Your main character starts off as a male or female soldier, scout, or scoundrel. These three basic classes roughly correspond to D&D's fighter, ranger, and rogue. The soldier is straightforward but very strong and begins with proficiency with various types of weapons and armor and gains the most vitality points per experience level. The scout is slightly less tough than the soldier but gains more skill points per level, allowing him or her to do such things as repair droids, pick locks, and disarm land mines. The scoundrel is physically the weakest class but can disappear from sight using special cloaking devices and can then inflict great damage if he or she catches a foe unaware. The scoundrel is also best suited to talking his or her way out of situations where the other character classes might have to resort to violence. Your choice of gender also has a bearing on some of the situations.



Will you choose the light or the dark side?
It's not spoiling anything to point out that you eventually gain access to Jedi powers. In turn, there are three different Jedi classes available, which emphasize either the Jedi's prowess with a lightsaber or his or her Force powers--or a balance of the two. Force powers are basically like magic spells, allowing you to do such things as stun opponents, knock them down, and choke them, as well as heal yourself and use the Force to persuade characters to see things your way. Some powers are inherently light-inclined, while others are dark-inclined, and though Jedi characters may gain access to any Force power as they gain experience levels, powers that match a Jedi's moral alignment can be used at a lower cost in Force points (which steadily recharge, allowing you to use your powers continuously).

The game does a fine job of letting you customize your character and his or her companions. Nine different characters will join you over the course of the adventure, and you'll be able to travel with up to two of them at a time. Most every character has an interesting story to tell that unfolds as you converse with him, her, or it over the course of the game, though some are developed better than others. The most entertaining of the bunch is probably HK-47, who's like a homicidal and slightly insubordinate C-3PO. As you and the others gain levels, you develop your abilities by choosing from a wide variety of skills (repair, stealth, persuasion, and so on) and combat feats (critical strike, two-weapon fighting, toughness, and so on).

Ultimately, the 3rd Edition rule system works quite well for the game and makes for an experience that seems consistent with the Star Wars mythos, namely that Jedi are extremely powerful, and conventional weapons are practically useless against their lightsabers and their Force powers. However, a few things don't quite make sense, such as how your strength statistic (as opposed to your dexterity) is tied to your proficiency with a lightsaber, and how ranged weapons generally seem too weak, offering practically no advantages over melee weapons since it's easy to close the distance with a gun-toting opponent. Also, much like in 3rd Edition D&D, fighter-type characters in Knights of the Old Republic can become overpowered to the point where they're virtually unstoppable. If you focus on building up such a character, you'll find that most of the combat in the game will be rather easy at the default difficulty setting, though you can crank it up to make your enemies stronger.



Blasters, grenades, and melee weapons are available--but nothing beats a good old double-bladed lightsaber.
Combat looks dynamic, and at a glance, you could mistake Knights of the Old Republic for an action game. You'll see characters firing away with their blasters, while those armed with melee weapons such as lightsabers will perform a variety of close-combat moves. Characters dueling with such weapons will block and feint, looking for openings in their opponents' defenses. It's all clearly inspired by the dramatic lightsaber battle at the end of Episode I and also resembles the outstanding lightsaber battles in last year's shooter, Jedi Knight II.

Despite appearances, though, the combat is really just a series of statistical checks, just like D&D. Your character's "to hit" rating, determined by his or her class, level, and weapon, is added to a random 1-20 dice roll and compared against the opponent's defense rating. If the to-hit roll is greater, you connect and deal damage. Your characters will automatically attack any foes nearby until either you or they are all dead, so in some cases, you end up simply watching the fight unfold. You'll only need to intervene to use healing kits or stimulants that boost your combat abilities, as well as Force powers and such, or maybe to prioritize targets. You can pause the action at any time and easily queue up specific orders for all your characters, but you can usually get away with just looking after your main character and will rarely need to micromanage things (your party members will lag behind once in a while as you're running around, but it's not a big deal). Generally, the combat is exciting to watch and paced nice and fast. You needn't worry if one of your characters falls in battle--he or she will simply get up once the fighting is over, though you're tossed back to the title screen if your entire party goes down.


The combat and the dialogue are the two main elements of Knights of the Old Republic. Other than those activities, you'll find yourself running from place to place, but you'll have little interaction with the environment other than being able to open footlockers and other objects containing goodies. You can sometimes hack into certain computer systems, but this is all done in text and isn't very interesting. Loading times between areas can feel a little long, especially when you have to backtrack--fortunately there's an option to instantly return to your hideout or ship if you're not in a dangerous area. Some of the environments are pretty big, but most aren't, and a mapping system clearly shows where you can and can't go and what the points of interest are in each area. There's also a very clear record of all the quests you have pending (and all the quests you've completed). As such, you'll probably never get lost in the game, though at the same time, you might feel a bit confined by where you can and can't go. Fortunately, the game opens up later on, allowing you to freely travel between planets and accomplish numerous tasks in whichever order you please.



Hours of expertly done voice-over help make character interaction incredibly engaging throughout Knights of the Old Republic.
Knights of the Old Republic also contains several minigames: You can gamble by playing a fairly entertaining card game that's similar to poker, you can compete in simple drag races on swoop bikes, and you can man the turrets of a spaceship to shoot down enemy fighters from a first-person perspective. These are all simple diversions, however.

As mentioned, character interaction really is the best thing about Knights of the Old Republic. There's a lot of dialogue in the game, all in full speech, and if you listen to all of it rather than read it (you can turn subtitles off), the game will probably last hours longer than it could otherwise. The dialogue is well done, and many of the game's characters are well defined. Most all of the numerous subquests in the game are suitably justified and present you with more than one viable solution. You'll constantly be able to choose between good and not-so-good solutions--early on, for instance, you can rescue a man who's being hassled by bounty hunters. Do you then offer to pay the dues he owes so that the poor man may live without fear, or do you threaten to mug him for his last remaining credits?

Knights lets you play as a really nasty character if you so choose, and that's certainly part of the fun. It's also an interesting aspect of gameplay, considering a big part of the theme is how Jedi constantly run the risk of falling to the dark side--indeed, you'll probably often be tempted to see what happens if you pick the evil dialogue options rather than the good ones, if only because most RPGs simply don't let you make these types of decisions. Certain key points in the game will play out very differently depending on the decisions you make, creating lots of replay value. LucasArts also promises that downloadable content in the form of new weapons and other items will be made available via Xbox Live later this year.

The graphics in Knights of the Old Republic aren't the game's strong suit. Some important aspects of the visuals are handled very well--specifically, the lightsaber combat looks dead-on, though you won't see any forearms getting chopped off or anything. Effective use of bump mapping and environment mapping can be seen on some of the aliens and their shiny armor or slick, oily skins. Many of the environments also look quite good, though some of the others are plain and lacking in detail. Character models are relatively simple, and their lip-synching and facial expressions don't always look quite right. You'll also notice that some character models will repeat often throughout the game--you'll encounter a number of different characters who all share the same face. The frame rate of Knights of the Old Republic also doesn't hold up, and it can frequently bog down in combat or whenever a lot of characters are around. Furthermore, the occasional cutscenes using the game's 3D engine tend to look downright crude, which is disappointing considering how impressive some of the game's production values are. Knights is a good-looking game overall, but it's easy to find fault in its visuals when the other aspects of the game are so well done.



Knights is both an outstanding RPG in its own right and an excellent tribute to the Star Wars source material.
Some of the audio is what you'd expect from a Star Wars game, though Knights deserves credit for featuring a mostly original (yet very subdued) soundtrack, which is a nice change of pace from the ubiquitous John Williams score. But the high quality and sheer quantity of the voice acting are exceptional. Alien characters even speak in convincing alien languages, though you'll pick up on the fact that the alien voice-over actually repeats often. Overall, though, the professional voice cast does an excellent job with the material, delivering believable performances, and this really enriches the gameplay experience. Not only does Knights of the Old Republic have some of the most voice-over of any game to date, but it also has some of the best.

It's apparent from playing Knights of the Old Republic that a remarkable amount of effort, work, and talent went into this game. It's one of the only Star Wars games to truly make you feel at times as though you're a key player in and a part of this unique and beloved sci-fi setting. You'll get to do all the sorts of stuff that you've seen and enjoyed in the Star Wars movies, and you'll get to emulate any of your favorite characters' personalities and actions over the course of the game. You'll also experience a much more morally complex version of Star Wars than what you get from the movies. Along the way, you'll find a few aspects of the game that you'll wish were better, but that's mostly because the vast majority of Knights of the Old Republic is so exceptionally good. You don't need to be a fan of Star Wars or of RPGs to appreciate all the impressive qualities of this game--but if you are, all the better.


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By Greg Kasavin, GameSpot  [POSTED: 07/15/03 06:07 PM]


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Squeek,
What do you think of KOTOR and the those screenshots from it that I put up?  Are `you a star wars fan/rpg fan?

-Dan

More screenshots from KOTOR (Knights of the Old Rep.) as per requests from certain people...I can't wait to rent this game!  Have any of you played this?  I have heard of people going out and buying the Xbox ($179) just to be able to play this game (which might soiund silly but in the next 6 months a number of AMAZING games are being released for the Xbox (Ninja Gaiden, Halo 2, Half-Life 2, Crimson Skies, etc.)

now more from KOTOR (some of these images are concept art for the game):

Yeah..there are definetly games that are great to rent but would only make you depressed if you spent good money on it.
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Here are some more screenshots from various games I thought many of you might enjoy (as you can see I am spending more time in this thread now that the AstralChat has been overrun with infighting and religous zealots.

From "Chaser" (PC)




Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic (xbox)

I just rented "The Matrix" for the Xbox and, despite some amazing visuals, was very let down by the overall game play and graphics.  I think hardcore fans of the film will enjoy it, but overall it really lacks polish and in depth gameplay.  

Anyone else played it (it's out for PC and all the major consoles).

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I am looking forward to an amazing fall lineup: Half-Life 2 for the PC and eventually the Xbox...here is a list of upcoming games for the 3rd gen consoles and pc:
Spawn (gc)

Spawn (ps2)

Spawn (xbox)

Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004 (pc)

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Oblivion Lost (pc)

Full Spectrum Warrior (xbox)

Massive Assault (pc)

Ratchet & Clank 2: Going Commando (ps2)
Wallace & Gromit (ps2)

Wallace & Gromit (gc)

Wallace & Gromit (xbox)

Ghosthunter (ps2)

Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike (gc)

Final Fantasy XI (ps2)

SWAT: Global Strike Team (xbox)

Colin McRae Rally 04 (xbox)

Colin McRae Rally 04 (ps2)

Tony Hawk's Underground (xbox)

Tony Hawk's Underground (ps2)

Siren (Working Title) (ps2)

Games coming out or that have already been released:

   



WWE SmackDown! Here Comes the Pain (ps2)
 
 


Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 2 (ps2)
 
 


Call of Duty (pc)
 
 
 



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[]Thanks!

I didn't mean anything by that, I think you are a very thoughtful, intelligent person...and I do think you did a great interpretation!

See ya!
Dan

Lil'Ninja,
Don't woorry about it man...it's ALL good![]

Thanks for the posts...and by the way Kodemaster, thanks for your posts.  Cool drawing!  Also, if you do remember where you got the other pic, let me know!  Thanks
Dan

Ninja-
Thanks for responding to my post.  I see the quote more or less the same as you, but in a deeper way (maybe you meant it in a deeper way)...

When I think of the quote in my singature by T.S. Elliot I think of the idea of coming from a world/existence in which we didn't know good from bad, dark from light, etc. (NONDUALITY) and now we are experiencing these things to gain knowledge (a world of duality), but when we return to that perfect, whole place we will know i for the first time because we have known imperfection.

I think this quote can be taken in many ways...

I like your sigs too!

Thanks!  Yes, we have had an overwhelmingly positive response to the images in this thread.  I am grateful to everyone who has taken the time to post images and we look forward to seeing more, so if you know if any other images not in this thread, put 'em up![]
-PW

Hey, no one may "get" mine, but I too have a sense of humor believe it or not.  

Just to prove it:

Little Ninja...that is a GREAT strip, thanks!  Where did ya' get it?

I love to make fun of nerds (mostly because I was/am one, although a  married older one now that doesn't really make distinctions between nerd/cool, etc.)

Well, my sig is from T.S. Elliot...I will tell you what I think it means, or what it means to me, but I want to hear what you think it means and why first...

Dan

Gaming Comes of Age

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College students are often considered a bellwether of Internet use, but the Internet is not the only technology they have incorporated into everyday life. Thanks to a plethora of technologies (video game consoles, computers, handheld devices, Internet) a range of entertainment options is at their disposal, a range that is much wider than was available to their predecessors. Furthermore, today's college students are using technologies like cell phones, mp3 players and other devices to entertain themselves wherever they may be.

The goal of this study was to learn about college students' use of video, computer and online games, and to determine the impact of that use on their everyday life. To meet those goals the researchers used three approaches. First, surveys were randomly distributed to college students at a wide range of two-year and four-year public and private colleges and universities in the continental United States. Students from 27 colleges and universities participated and the surveys were collected between March 2002 and June 2002, and September 2002 and October 2002. This sample was intended to produce results that would correspond to the demographics for all U.S. college students as reported in The Chronicle of Higher Education's annual almanac issue. The sample was tested against known population parameters (gender, race, age) and found to be reflective of the national population of college students. In all, 1,162 surveys were returned. For results based on the total sample, one can say with 95% confidence that the error attributable to sampling and other random effects is plus or minus 3 percentage points. This study focused on traditional college students, ones who are seeking a college degree and who devote much or all of their time to their studies.

Second, a team of graduate student researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago was recruited to observe the behaviors of college students at 10 Chicago area institutions of higher education. The researchers were trained in ethnographic methods of observation and data collecting, and rotated the times of the day and days of the week they spent in various public settings where college students could be found using computers and the Internet. Third, additional material was based on a previous study of college students' Internet use conducted by this research team for the Pew Internet & American Life Project and on the findings of surveys of Americans about their use of the Internet conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates in 2001 and 2002 for the Pew Internet & American Life Project.

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The 1980s were a boom time for video games. Beginning with Pong, progressing to Space Invaders, and following on to the PC boom with computer-based games, the gaming industry evolved its grip on entertainment slowly but surely. By the late 1990s the Internet's growth and popularity seemed a logical match for video games, but bandwidth, computer processor speed, and the gaming industry's investment in its own devices (Nintendo, PlayStation, etc.) postponed the inevitable merger of interactive games and Internet.

The last few years have been another boom time for the gaming industry. Internet-ready game consoles from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft (among others), increasing bandwidth, and computers primed for multimedia, have made gaming an increasingly popular form of entertainment. Research conducted in 2002 showed that 60% of U.S. residents age six and older play computer games, and that over 221 million computer and video games were sold in the U.S. Earlier research found that 35% of U.S. residents surveyed said that video games were the most entertaining media activity, while television came in second with 18% saying it was most entertaining. The gaming industry reported sales of over $6.5 billion that same year. Datamonitor estimates online gaming revenues will reach $2.9 billion by 2005. Additional research has claimed that 90% of U.S. households with children rented or owned a video or computer game and that U.S. children spend an average of 20 minutes a day playing video games.

Research conducted by the Pew Internet and American Life Project showed that 66 percent of U.S. teenagers play or download games online. While 57 percent of girls play online, 75 percent of boys reported that they play Internet-games. Although teenagers are reported to play video and computer games for nearly 4 hours a week, some researchers have found that college aged men report playing these games over 15 hours per week.

see rest of article @:
http://www.gamespy.com/articles/july03/pewreport/index3.shtml

Let the College Games Begin
Gaming technology and entertainment among college students, courtesy of Pew Internet.
By Pew Internet Project | August 7, 2003

The Pew Internet & American Life Project recently conducted a study on video games and college students. According to their Web site, the Pew Project does "academic-quality research that explores the impact of the Internet on children, families, communities, the work place, schools, health care and civic/political life. The Project aims to be an authoritative source for timely information on the Internet's growth and societal impact, through research that is scrupulously impartial."

In their report on college life and games, they began: "While the last few years have seen tremendous growth in gaming, for one segment of the population, college students, gaming is virtually a commonplace. Computer, video and online games are woven into the fabric of everyday life for college students. And, they are more of a social/socializing activity than most suspected."

Below is a copy of the original PEW report, its findings, and commentary (reprinted with permission). See how life is changing on campuses across the country!



Summary of Findings


All of those surveyed reported to have played a video, computer or online game at one time or another. Seventy percent (70%) of college students reported playing video, computer or online games at least once in a while. Some 65% of college students reported being regular or occasional game players.


Students cited gaming as a way to spend more time with friends. One out of every five (20%) gaming students felt moderately or strongly that gaming helped them make new friends as well as improve existing friendships.


Gaming also appears to play a surrogate role for some gamers when friends are unavailable. Nearly two-thirds (60%) of students surveyed agreed that gaming, either moderately or strongly, helped them spend time when friends were not available.


Two-thirds of respondents (65%) said gaming has little to no influence in taking away time they might spend with friends and family,


Students integrate gaming into their day, taking time between classes to play a game, play a game while visiting with friends or instant messaging, or play games as a brief distraction from writing papers or doing other work.


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Gaming is integrated into leisure time and placed alongside other entertainment forms in their residence, and that it forms part of a larger multitasking setting in which college students play games, listen to music and interact with others in the room.


Most college student gamers seem to associate positive feelings with gaming, such as "pleasant" (36%), "exciting"(34%), and "challenging" (45%). Fewer students reported feeling frustrated (12%), bored (11%), or stressed (6%) by gaming.


Close to half (48%) of college student gamers agreed that gaming keeps them from studying "some" or "a lot." In addition, about one in ten (9%) admitted that their main motivation for playing games was to avoid studying.


College student gamers' reported hours studying per week match up closely with those reported by college students in general, with about two-thirds (62%) reporting that they study for classes no more than 7 hours per week, and 15% reported studying 12 or more hours per week.


One third (32%) of students surveyed admitted playing games that were not part of the instructional activities during classes.

Classic gaming conference:
http://www.gamespy.com/articles/august03/classicgamingexpo/

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Been reading Monroe lately huh?  JK

Thanks for sharing you experience.  It was kind of difficult to figure out exactly what happened, but I think I got it.

By the way, welcome to the astralpulse.  I hope you enjoy it here and will visit and contribute as often as you can.

Sincerely,
Daniel aka PeacefulWarrior

I like getting to know everyone better too.  

Here are a few things about myself:

1.  I am the oldest of 4 children and I am the only boy.
2.  I got married about a year ago.
3.  I am substitute teacher and am going to school.  I am an English major and I will finish soon.  I am applying to grad school in a few months.
4.  I love to make people laugh.
5.  I too love video games (multiplayer Halo mostly)
6.  I LOVE to go fishing!

Flummox- post some screenshots of that game man![]

Squeek- give us the low down on S.C.![]

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All right, here's my little update (and then I GOTS TA' get to bed!) on the video game scene:

1.  CHeck out the new console due to be released.  What the ____ going on?  It's either going to be AWESOME[8D] or totally WHACK[V].  Seems like a gussied up PC.  Supposedly it's to be connected via broadband 24/7/365.  Here's the link:
http://www.phantom.net/
Click on the PDF icon in the corner to see the info on it and let me know what you think

2.  XIII for all consoles and I think PC...a cell-shaded cartoon/comic book style first person shooter.  Here are a few screens:





3.  I am playing HALO on the net (without Xbox Live)!  Although my wife hates it, I drive all the way over where I can get high speed access (cable) and I hook my Xbox up to the PC via ethernet cable and play through GameSpy arcade.  FRAGGIN' all night long!

4.  TOns of good games coming out soon for every console.

Check:
WWW.GAMESPOT.COM

Sorry about the bad link[^], just go to:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/27/neverland.ap/index.html

and click on the special "Urban Legends" spot to see what I was trying to link to.[]

Hey Little Ninja great pics!  Thanks so much.  Keep 'em coming!

I especially like the one with the hands.

Hello goingslow!

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree.  As your friend and Christian myself, I COMPLETELY understand what you mean.  While I stand up for what I believe, I have never preached in here nor have I been rude...and you know what, I think (I hope I don't sound prideful here) I have garnished more respect for Christians than Allanon has with all of his incessant and at times idiotic chatter.  

You know, when one is truly kind and loving and desirous to help others it shows...it shows how one communicates and shares ones thoughts and feelings.  

I try to talk about truth with people and if I happen to share some insight that reveals that I worship Jesus Christ, so be it...but most of the time I just talk about truth and experiences.  

Anyway, it's late and I'm TIRED too so I better just let this go...but I wanted to let you know that I feel what you're saying.

sincerely,
Daniel
ps- I decided not to visit any of Allanon's threads, they are just boring and annoying at this point...