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hihi

Great synthesis!
Congratulation Cube!

But I'm, Sarah. Have you ever noticed that every joke could be tracked back to gloating over someone else's misfortune? Someone, please disprove me. (or could be that we are just laughing on ourselves?)

I hate the word "non-physical." By definition it mean something that unable to interact with physical things. Some possibilities: 1. consciousness is physical & non-physical at the same time; 2. "non-physical" term is useless because "non-physical" things are only continuation of things we could measure with you current equipment; 3. we are nuts talking about consciousness (these possibilities don't exclude each other)

I think consciousness is (1) a higher function of any self-regulating system that has already passed through some sufficient tresholds of complexity, (2) an ability of self-reflexion, and (3) enhanced control on internal and external events (seemingly against the trend of "global" termodinamical processes).

When I've said that you are what you think, I meant that if someone think that he or she (as a person with given desires and personal methods for acting, thinking and perceiving) will survive death then one could be wrong. However, if you identify yourself with "something else" death doesn't mean the end for you...

Of course, in a given extent I agree with you, James, but I'm still think that natural laws are exist, at least, as some consensus between your super-consciousnesses (they set up our current limits by determining our sensory machanisms).

Ok Tom, good luck to you and everyone. I hope we'll get what we want without doing harm in our real selves. Please report your experiences as they unfold.

I'm going to stand here for a while to post some summarizing pictures about phasing/OBE and perhaps some technique currently I'm on.

I don't understand what you wrote.

maybe the answer depends on what do you think you are

Mind enginer? That could be stressful.

links & some old notes


1. links:
- meeting the dead Monore in F23 http://www.monroeinstitute.org/memberships/members_section/voyagers/voyages/personal-sylviainc-grieve.html
- chat with Skip Atwater, research director of TMI http://members.tripod.com/~TMIVoyagers/skip.htm
- PREP Session Physiological Monitoring http://www.monroeinstitute.org/research/J&J.html
- transcript of a PREP session (haven't find yet)


2. [focus level - "official" description - my notes]

F10 - "mind awake, body asleep" - mind barely awake, body is in slumber (similar to sleep stage #1,2)
F12 - "expanded awareness" - mind is very focused or absorbed in hypnagogics, body asleep (no feelings of) (somewhat anomalous state)
F15 - "no time" - no idea of mine
F21, F22 - "other energy systems", "edge of pace time" (?) - mind highly active, body asleep (definately REM-sleep)
F23 - "recently excited humans" - mind and body is asleep (consiousness is active but detached from the sleeping brain - NREM sleep)
F24 - belief system territories - "primitive" tribal beliefs ??
F25 - belief system territories - chatolics and other organised belief systems ??
F26 - belief system territories - modern, "hollywood" belief systems ??
F27 - The Park / Reception Center - the state wherefrom wanna-be higher selves fishing for their fragments that have been trapped inside the belief systems territories


3. an attempt to compare focus states with sleep states:

one sleep cycle:
[image]http://img1.uploadimages.net/595149scycles.jpg[/image]

a typical nightly sleep as being composed from various sleep cycles:
[image]http://img1.uploadimages.net/659723sstages.gif[/image]

> waking state, TMI C1
> stage#1 - you try to relax, could be similar to TMI F3, F10
> hypnagogia - rapid transition through various states from the Higher Self to F12 (reversed!) - OR - REM-sleep/dreaming in F22 (when need for deep sleep is satisfied or anomalous SOREMP occurs due to sleep interruption or attack of narclolepsy)
> stage#1 (again!...if homeostatic sleep need is satisfied) -  you regain consciousness after dreaming or you wake up from hypnagogics...you feel yourself somewhat frustrated because you lost your "trance".... you turn on your side and impassively release some angry farts by mere frustration - Fault! this is the best state to get into action by silence & intending because your consciousness is still dispersed between various focus states: changing focus levels along the consciousness axis (perceiving through the local devices by turning your attention to the proper direction), you can reenter into dreams, download information through hypnopompic books, etc.
> stage#2 - short transitional stage between the double (hovering inside and above the physical body in F10/F12) and the dream body (which is dreamed by the double and "projected" into your "astral bedroom" around F22) - OR - dream projections based on false awakenings at around F21/F22 and reentering into regular dreams with full awareness
> stage#3 - real "astral projections" from F23 to ?
> stage#4 - "deep astral projections", returning to the Source
> stage#3 - transmission of unexplainable experiences
> stage#2 - further transmission of unexplainable experiences
> stage#1 - preparing to the first/next REM-period
first "regular" REMP - final transcription of "astral experiences" through dream insights
...sleep cycles (and adventures) are continuing...

To extrude consciousness by the Gateway system, I think, it is very important to apply Focus tapes/CDs in successive order. F10 focuses it in the Hara, F12-F21 push it from the chest to the top of the head (see curves of the diagram at the bottom of the previous page).

We could build up imaginations to prevent energy leackage. Think about the body centered thoroidal flow whhich is used as a general imagination in psyhic protection excercises.

You can recycle the toughtforms as well if you believe so, however, in theory, parasites could use these images to make themselves more appealing to you.

The real problem could be the overburning of the brain 5HT-, dopmaine- and noradrenaline system and the resulted depression.

This article makes me think again about the possibility that after our death - without the anchor & support of our etheric body - the great mobility we enjoy in exploring the astral isn't possible anymore.

Considering the fact that only couple of gramms will be loosened by an etheric OBE, our bodies accumulating enormous amount of energy from its environment.

So what happens after this energy supply is cut off and the stable/anchored copy of our personality is ceased to exist?

I think I've done it a couple of times, but only one is validated so far. In theory, sleeping at the same time is not a requirement.

If I'm out of sync with my partner I can't articulate and don't understand what he/she says.

If my partner wake up, he/she become a puppet (it's rare to disappear). We can fly together holding each other's hand. Arms seem somewhat elastic.

could be "scalar"

there must have been a reason...
my people are already on it

very evil.

an another variation:

//www.liquidgeneration.com/sabotage/optical_sabotage.asp
(if you're stupid enough use headphones)

Go for it, Rastus! Perhaps one could use three EM-emitter to build up spatial interference patterns in order to stimulate the anatomical locations of chakras. In his project, Shakti, Persinger attempted to stimulate the brain directly by week, EEG-derived magnetic signals http://www.innerworlds.50megs.com/shakti/index.htm - as opposed to the binaural stimulation which is indirect and purely sonic. But our mind is superior.... (or I just have no many?)

MajorTom wrote:

quote: have jogged some memories from a course in psychofysiology that is somewhere far in the back of my mind

Are you in the business too? Somehow I was in the belief that you are an enginer...

quote:It's an interesting idea to relate carrier waves to particular brain structures, which in turn are related to different sections of the body and correspondig chakra's. That's what you are doing right?

Exactly.

quote:Do you know what the basis is for relating these higher frequencies to specific body parts, or corresponding brain regions?

To simplify a little: The carrier frequencies are processed in the thalamus where all the other sensory information is meet. Different tones stimulate different neuron groups which are supposed to connected to different systems of sensory processing. Again, this is a great simplification. Due to the fact that every neuronal assembly has a specific frequency of operation where maximal resonance occurs, some frequency could elicit specific responses.

The brain is heavily "impregnated" by its auditory processing system. Hearing occurs in a wide frequency range compared to other senses. It seems to be an universal sense, most independent from the brain compared to other senses. I think, by hearing we could escape from our brain. Not only inner noises could turn to "outers", signals from the astral, but, for example, by observing the low-frequency sounds of the landscape around one can expand their awareness into his environment. One of my ongoing project is stabilizing OBEs by opening the gate of hearing and concentrating noises around me. I hope that noises are genuine sources of direct sensory information by which the energy body could reinforce its connections with the environment, preventing its desincronisation, one of the main reason of premature awakening.

quote:That is, is there such a connection? How and where was that data observed?

If you like physiology I advise you the following descriptors for a Google search: thalamocortical loop, resonance (not tested). My current favorite scientific (?) author is Matti Pitkanen. http://www.physics.helsinki.fi/~matpitka/ Look for his writings about quantum biology & semi trance. Soon his name will be show up on T-shirts (I hope that he will still alive...)

I'll definately look furtehr into it, to see whether stimulation or relaxation fo certain body parts, will increase the effectiveness of the tapes.

Yes, that could be the perfect practical application. I'll send some links I've found useful. You know the theory and own the tapes. What more one should want?

Another methods to go OB from SP:

Simply focus on the top of your head. If you are paralised or close to it this focus will loose up the second body enough for separation. No intense concentration is required, the enire process takes about 5-30 sec from start to separation depending on your state. Works similarly than taking deep breaths that is by "raising your vibrational level." It will works from any states close to paralisys or just after you see a stable hypnagogic picture. A very simple and efficient method, highly recommended. (A yet untested idea: regarding the power of breathing, targeting Cube's breathwork to a point just above the head could be easily a stand-alone OBE induction method from sleepy states.)

Sometimes you have to move the focal point upward from your head along the axis of your body in order to get a better grasp on the phantom. This is the natural extension of the method above, works from similar states, but it could be a stand-alone techniqe as well. If I'm able to set a sense of motion of being continously moving upward along the axis of my body I could feel two point of pressure: one in the Hara (between my navel & moron) and a second in the middle of my head. For me this is something that very hard to attain from full waking. I was only successfull two times.

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I still adwise WinAmp (and ClockWise). Using WA's superior function to create playlists you could make and save as many programs as you would like. I've been use prerecorded minute of silence as building unit. ClockWise can't do timing otherwise than signalling periodically (ok, it's able but its a circuitous programming).

An mp3 CD (or DVD) player would be the ideal solution. One is almost able to record the full cycle of the signals from Cube's SB method on a regular 74min CD (5+10+15+20+25=75). By slightly decreasing the interwals one even can put an audio track on the end of the CD and wake up fully before the next cycle begins.

When I use the LOG-system I do it with earphones to not disturb my family. I put the other earphone when I turn (I use only one at time). I recommend those models which had a support around the ear, so they will not slip out.

I've hoped it will raise your curiosity, Tom, because I was planned to write something about brainwave stimulation and chakras. You've trigger my lazyness into action. I think this is the thread. If my hypothesis below is true, my interpretations from my previous post could enhance your practice!  

FFT (Fast Furier Transformation) is a tool to get the spectrum of any signal as a frequency-domain representation. By applying FFT analysis on the TMI materials one can identify the exact frequencies from which those materials are composed. I have used the FFTA of someone else to draw my conclusions (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~noromaas/bwg-list/2000-04.htm). Later I was able to get some mp3 versions, unfortunately, mosty in joint stereo which ruins binaurals. But they were enough to realise that the FFT data I was used is not perfect. So the following hypothesis could be wrong, but so beautiful! I know that they are various methods like harmonic box and other, so this hypothesis could be also covered. But there is still a chance that is it new. Anyway, this project is far out of date because I'm not interested in binaural technologies anymore.

The audio patterns of Gateway Focuses are composed from 3-7 (8 or more?) pairs of sinus tones. Each par of sinus waves forms a carrier of a given binaural frequency (BF). For example the pair of 198Hz & 202Hz tones make the binaural stimulus of 4Hz (=202-198). The site where I've find the FFT analysis marked this BF as 200[4.0], a notation I kept so far. Another notations for the same stimulus is 4Hz @ 200. I was tought you know this and could follow my analysis.
For example "Exploaration Sleep" is composed from 3 pairs of sinus waves: 100[4.0] + 300[4.0] + 500[4.0], (4Hz @ 1,3,5K). This is a very simple construction, all carrier's amplitudos (volumes) are set equal to a level that is greatly above the noise profile.

"Advanced F10" is more complex: 100[1.5] + 200[4.0] + 250[4.0] + 300[4.0], but not so as F12 which is composed from F10 + two alfa stimulus (BF=10.0 & 10.1Hz) + one theta (4.8 Hz).

"Advanced F10" and especially F12, F15 and F21 feed our brains with various different BFs at the same time. Here it is, the very skeleton of the TMI Gateway focus constructions (some tricks are not mentioned like attempts to breath regulations @50Hz by carrier amplitudo modulation):

F10 - 102[4.0], 302[4.0], 502 4.0]                                                          
F10 - 102[4.0], 412[4.0], 502[4.0],
F10 - 102[4.0], 302[4.0], 498[4.0]
F10 - 100[1.5], 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0]                                                                                                                                  
F12 - 100[1.5], 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0], 400[10.0], 500[10.1], 600[4.8]
F15 - 100 [1.5], 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0], 500[7.05], 630[7.1], 750[7.0]
F21 & F22 - 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0], 600[16.2], 750[15.9], 900[16.2]
F23 - 400[3.9], 503[4.0], 600[4.0], 750[3.9], 900[4.0]
F24 - 50[0.75], 400[3.9], 503[4.0], 600[4.0], 750[4.0], 900[4.0]
F25 - 503[4.0], 600[4.0], 750[4.0], 900[4.0]
F26 & F27 - 400[3.9], 503[4.2], 600[4.0], 750[4.0], 900[4.0]

I've been spent months speculating on this raw data. As someone mentioned (perhaps who have done the original FFTA) that the mystery lies not in the theta/delta mix of binaurals but rather in the exact chosement of the carrier frequencies. As you can see, the carrier frequencies are multiples of 50 and 100Hz but there are some exceptions too (in the case of F15: 100, 200, 250, 300, 500, 630, 750 is used - 630 is out of the order). The reason of this multiplication is simple: BSs are inaffective above 30Hz (determined by the diameter of the scull), but the distance between the stave of the 50Hz and 100Hz scaled ladder is still greater than 30 even after adding or drawing BF/2.

You can also see a trend that higher BFs are carried by higer frequencies (in the case of F21: BF=4.0 is carried @ 200 but 16.2 @ 900). So I've got the idea that higher carriers target higher brain structures that are being more close to the cortex. One day I've found the following frequency table:

bin / audible / body - comment                           
16.4   526   1052   top of head -      spirit, liberation, transcendence   
15.4   492   984   cortex   -      intelligence   
13.8   440   880   frontal lobes -       the seventh sense, final decision   
12.3   393   787   eyes -          visualization   
10.7   342   685   ears -          hearing, formal concepts   
10.3   329   658   nasal passages -       breathing, taste
9.19   294   588   upper lip -       emotions, conflict resolution   
8.22   263   526   mouth -          speech, creativity
7.69   246   492   shoulders -       strength of the arms, expansion, teaching
6.88   220   440   collarbones -       vitality, overall balance, stability   
6.15   197   393   heart -          love, warmth   
5.35   171   342   lungs -          oxygen, heat   
5.14   165   329   stomach -       emotional acceptance   
4.60   147   294   spleen, blood -       emotional impulse
4.11   132   263   kidneys -          strength,
3.84   110   220   ovaries -          vitality, life at every level   
3.07   98.4   197   hara -          3cm or 1.5 in. below navel, balance of pelvis
2.67   85.5   171   intestines       
2.57   82.3   165   bladder       
2.30   73.6   147   genitals   
2.06   65.8   132   coccyx   

Considering the fact that we use headphones it is obvious that tones aren't affect our body directly. However, as you can see, there aren't so many mentions of brain structures in the table (except at the top, cortex). So I've figured out that body parts and functions in question are targeted and activated through those thalamocortical loops which hold their reverberation/operational frequencies at values featured in the 2nd table.

The first row show the intrinsic, average (binaural) frequency one can assign to a given body part or set of functions. The next two rows show the carrier frequencies (lower and upper harmonics respectively). Generaééy, they are effective per se, but TMI seems to use the upper harmonic scale, sometimes both of them at the same time (could be an inevitable artifact). For example 10.7 @ 342 will do the same as 10.7 @ 685 - which is basically nothing. Nothing because the binaural frequency in question (10.7Hz) is not different from the intrinsic value assigned to the targeted body part 'ears.'

Therefore, for example, if you want increase the activity of your "heart chakra" you may chose a carrier close to 197Hz (or 393Hz). If you set BF below 6.15 Hz  then heart chakra will be supressed. If you choose a greater value than 6.15 then heart chakra will be activated. The latter is the case what TMI seems to do by F12. They use 400[10.0] which will activate the heart by a factor ~10.0/6.15 (a rough guess of course). In theory, we could target any centers and set they activites similarly as we use the sliders of an equaliser. The adjusted systems will effect body physiology accordingly to their functions and feed back to the consciousness centers whom which they are part of it. Below is the original picture I draw as a summary:

[image]http://www.uploadimages.net/images/222371TMIF10-21.jpg[/image]

However, this is not so simple - for example, one cannot activate these centers independently from each other, because they are interconnected in many levels - some of these levels transcend physiology. Also, the relative intensities (overall volume profile) of the carriers are equally important because greater volumes may have greater impact and could imbalance feedback. If our binaural construction doesn't match to any existing brain states then it will not work. The brain is indeed very plastic and able to form new connections (the conception behind binaural brain stimulation) but there are states which are still impossible to attain. Properly chosed binaural frequencies, carriers and their amplitudos have to meet to form a working key. Even peoples in TMI have chosed the parameters by reverse enginering of EEGs have been derived from talented subjects. However, there is still a hope that someone able to construct a working OBE-preset by simply considering the informations above.

Basically my hypothesis on "chakras" is the following: as we move upward along the neurotaxis (from brainstem to cortex) we'll likely to find innerconencted neuron assemblies (working as adjustable frequency generators) serving as biological parts of various consciousness centers projected as chakras along the spine. For example, activation of your solar plexus chakra (by 6.0 @ 250) will result in increased activity in that part of your brain that's responsible for your tactile sense of your navel regio. Those neurons will activate that parts of your brain which works together as the biological components of your navel chakra. Of course chakras have real 3D acceptor-structures in our bodies like endocrine glands, nerves and bands of collective tissues channeling light in the visible spectrum. This acceptor structures designed for the F10-like bioplasm field which could be the last having real 3D (macro)structures (acceptors for F12-like fields).

If you focus on your navel local bioplasm density will increase in that regio activating the parasympathetic nerve ganglions of your plexus solaris, the most important vegetative center in the body, also called abdominal brain. The effector nerves originated from that plexus will decrease blood pressure and muscle tension causing relaxation. This why I so serious about focusing on the solar plexus through localised breathing. The nerve plexuses in your body, the neuron assemblies in your brain and the remaining non-biological parts of the consciousness center of the "navel chakra" form together a functional unit. This is the real navel chakra. The feeling and subtle sight on that regios as a vortex is only one projection of its multidimensionality. Its body parts control digestion and cause relaxatation, its energetic parts control consciousness in a F10-like fields of bioplasm, and its brain parts serve as interface between them by sustain the required neurophysical reverberation & coherence. Sounds cool. But is it the truth?

quote:I understand the purpose of the beta signals in focus 10 (to keep one alert), but perhaps for some reason the increased beta signals of 12 are associated with another perceptual window opening up. Does that make sense to you?

Yes it does. However, as you can see above, there is no beta signal either in F10 nor in F12 (only in F21). Alfa BFs of 10.0 & 10.1 are used in F12 to activate those centers of consciousness which are projected on the body image as "heart chakra" & "neck chakra" to open up that perceptual window onto RTZ & non-personal, lower dream states. Also 4.8 @ 600 is used supposedly in order to inhibit regular dreaming and hinder unintentional slipping out of RTZ by sealing the consciousness axis just above the collective dream territories. Hitting the 6K centers with BF=4.8 would decrese its activity to 52% (4.8/9.19) which supposedly is at around its lowest possible values. This center correspond to the regio of upper lip and functions as emotions & conflict resolution according to the second table. The center corresponding to 500Hz and the realm between RTZ-OBEs & regular dreams is stimulated. This could greatly facilitate the double's mobility through manoeuvres like "stratching" or "zooming" in this transitory realm. This could be the edge of space as we know it where spatial decondensation of the energy body is significant. This is, still a hypothesis, of course.

["Zapped by the Sun"]

I've totally forgot this thread. But recently I've complained to Cezyl about my messed up rhythms. Here is an excerpt from the PM I've sent him (it is heavily edited due to the recurrent content of child phornography, dangerous and subversive thought patterns, encouragement to drug abuse):

Generally, bright light is used as more natural and efficient threatment as opposed to melatonin's to syncronise the free-running cyrcadian rythm. Sungazing at sunrise has the potencial to do this job, but I need stable sleep around this practice as well.

(...) The most important thing that a wanna-be projector have to know is about the basic regulation of sleep (interaction between the homeostatic process responsible for the primacy of deep sleep against the ultradian clocking mechanism which regulate REM-sleep propensity).

(...) Actually, it's no matter when you expose yourself to the light if it contains the high frequency part of the light spectrum like  sunlight does. Artifical light can be used as well if contain this specific short wavelenghts. You have to expose yourself to the light exactly the same hour, preferably every day. One can use the light of sunset, but sunrise is more natural, especially if you don't plan to sleep back. However, bright light will delay melatonin excretion for about 30 minutes which could be very favourable for SOREM (entering REM-state directly).


[image]http://www.bariumblues.com/images/zapped%20by%20the%20sun.jpg[/image]
"Zapped by the Sun" by Lydia Mancini 12-2002

quote:It's like your conscious level is a sine wave that's tilted downward wavering its way into the OBE frequency.

I've never thought on the process like that. Maybe I would have to use it. It's more simple than my monsters and could be more easy to hold in the back of my mind. I prefer to think on the brain as a "continously humming system" being composed from various interconnected, competiting frequency generators. Possible brain-states are superpositions of those frequencies and exist at the same time, however most of them we yearn for have so little probabilities that they could be regarded as negligtible outcomes.

Ehhh, MajorTom is drown me deep into this binaural stuff again, soo...In general, there is no such thing as single OBE frequency. The most close to it is the 4Hz binaural stimulus feed into the brain through the formatio reticularis by its specific frequency (100Hz or 200Hz carriers: 198Hz in the left ear & 202Hz in the right or 98/102). FR is the proper place to target if we devote a frequency as overall stimulus to the whole of the brain. So, 200 [4] is almost standalone (used ain the end of the preset called "Tommy's vibratio starter", and the one I have had my first success with in 2000). And not to mention, that is also part of TMI consstructions like F10, F12, F15 and F21. Focus 12 - perhaps the most potent RTZ-OBE-inducer ever to date - is composed from 7 (8?) pair of carriers but still seems unable to define the OBE-state with enough accuracy, and one have to put off their headphone after 20-30 min of exposition to let the proper alingment to happen.

BTW, no serious idea about your dancing arm. Pray to that purple superbeing...

quote:I'm able to get into deep a relaxation or body detachment from the upper torso occasioannly. This appears to coicince with being very much "in one's head". Sort of bodyless. It seems to be an extended form of focus 10 which for me is a state where there is an overall sensory redution in sense input (with the except of auditory and visual input). But, in this extended focus 10, there does not seem to be any awareness of breathing or swallowing. Hoever, the blackness is still simply black (which would indicate to me the visual senses are still operational).

If my interpretation of the results of an FFT analysis somone had done on F12 is correct, then centers associated to 400Hz & 500Hz carriers are seem to meant to be active, corresponding to the chakras of heart & neck respectively (according to the homeophetic frequency chart @ http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm).

Focusing on the neck could yield some very visual experiences, but you have to forget your body after the neck-focus is set (generally we have to forget our body above F10 at least for moments to successfully "change" between them). You could try the neck trick in luxus sleep when you doze on and off.

quote:I think it's fairly close to focus 12 or 2a in your terms, but as you say, it seems hard to consciously get there, and it is even hard to unconsciously get there.

It makes sense to me that getting unconsciously into F12 is even harder than doing it consciously. The hearth chakra (and associated RTZ-OBE) is seems somewhat out of the route from the natural process of sleep. I think the bioplasm/solar plexus state (similar to F10) serve as natural commutator to dreaming (which is somewhat associated with the neck).

quote:focus 10 has nothing to do with focus 12

Totally agree. I'm in firm believe (which may not good) that there is no such thing that shift from F10 to F12. Consciousness had to split for that transition. One part of the consciousness remain still and passive in F10 so doesn't disrupt the other parts (not identical!) that become active in F12. In the case of regular sleep, consciousness may first split into dreaming from the F10-like bioplasmic state for dreaming. (Only after, of course, homeostatic sleep need is satisfied. Up until that point hypnagogia will substitue the first REM-sleep at around the 1st stage of sleep).

Directly and consciously entering into REM-sleep often occurs through a window like structure. I may see my dream body before the frozen picture of a street or something, but I have to trick myslef into believing that indeed I could and will move that body. If I fail I'll wake up by a jerk. In the case of F12 or more likely in the state of its natural apt I feel a massive support beneath me, so there is little chance to fall back. It is not, by all means paralysis, but could be an entirely different direction of my awareness than I'm accustomed to.

quote:seems that tha is waht I'm doing when getting images in focus 10..staright to focus 21. But only semi-lucid during them. To be fully lucid would be easier from focus 12.

I think I've succesfully cracked TMI's Gateway series at around 2000. What TMI seems to do with F10 is establishing a state close to the prestate of dreaming (~ sleep stage #2), the state where normally bioplasm body would expand. However, activity of consciousness center which required to bioplasm separation (projected on our body image at the regio of solar plexus) is supressed by the binaural stimulus 250[4.0] (exclusively in "advanced F10" which looks like a prep for Focus 12).

In fact, again, according to the FFT (and no interpretation is needed in this case), the audio pattern of F12 is composed from the audio pattern of F10 + upper torso activation + a tone looks like an attempt to prohibit regular/emotional/compensatory dreaming and further balance average brain activity within the alpha/theta range.

It is interesting to note, that there are two F10 variations: "Advanced F10" & "Exploration Sleep." Both of them seem unnatural from ordinary sleep states, albeit in different manner. "Advanced F10" will shift main activity from the bioplasm center to the Hara by the binaural stimulus 200[4.0] (again, according to my interpretation of the FFT analysis). Also, 250[4.0] will keep activity of the bioplasm center around its average level & supress REM-sleep indirectly through its upper harmonics (@500Hz). The 200[4.0] could be an attempt to extrude consciousness from the bioplasm body into F12, because Hara is the lower candidate of the heart chakra due to their exact harmonic relashionship (200 Hz & 400 Hz respectively...the third memeber of that triad is the brow @ around 800Hz). Hara also have to do something with the sleep paralysis.

On the other hand, the "Exploration Sleep" version seems directly supress the dream center by binaural stimulus 500[4.0], but let bioplasm expansion to unfold (no stimulus @ 250Hz), so "rolling out slowly" and "flying upwards" or somethin like that could become possible without the hallucinatory intrusion of ordinary dreams. Seems like guys @ TMI plays their cards very well within the limits of the binaural technology. I wonder what they could do today - after more than 30 years!

quote:What do you make of the dream-like images such as those in focus 10 however? Almost seems as if they are dream-like because once mind is not fully not alligned with them. Hence, perhap, they are experienced semi-lucid and one is not full alert during them. I wonder whether when these images are experienced more lucid that the 3D effect of focus 12 is not far around the corner. Almost as if one has to allign oneself with them.

We see those pictures only for brief seconds. As we realise we see them they disappear. I think, those pictures are primarly sensed by that part of our consciousness which is at the other side of the membrane at around F12. However, the part of our consciousness which is reflected in the bioplasm body is still active, that is two set of consciousness try to operate at the same time. The result: F12 experiences will be overwritten by F10. "Advanced F10" seems hamper imagery by 250[4.0]. The bioplasm "body" (the "body who dream" the "astral body") is also can be used as temporal carrier of consciousness in "etheric projections."

I going to correct the stage numbers in my previous posts, because I've seem to lost in them. Edit: 2b1=3a / 2b2=3b. Maybe I should draw a picture...

quote:How do you switrch from 1 to 2a? I find that to be the most difficult transition.

Indeed. I think it is mostly out of our control. Seems like the most important thing we're able to do is to carefully managing our sleep architecture. However, the 1->2a transition seems to coincide with F10-F12 change, so the mistery should be lie in shifting activity from the solar plexus regio to the middle and upper part of the chest. Muscles have to be profoundly relaxed previous to the shift because it will result in sympathetic activation.

quote:At which exact point a classic OBE occurs I'm rally not sure. I can't slow the down the procss enough yet with regards to classical OBE to be able to twell which fous levels are involved exactly.

I believe there is no such point. Even if one can induce paralysis at will, the resulted OBE-state will depend upon the direction of the sensory feedback one establish with the environment before internal projection. One can separate etherically from F10, split consciousnes into the RTZ at around F12 or project into the dream states at around F21 from F10.

quote:2b is the astral visual screen which has to be past through by phasing. Do you experience it as "hovering" over it?

I used to do. For me it was not like a screen at all. Perhaps the "3D darkness" correspond to an another type of hypnagogia I have been observed but forget to mention in my previous post. This stage is somwhere around 2a & 2b (?) but it is in the 2nd stage for sure (let's called to "8c appendix"). In this state sky plays dominant role, sometimes with the background of stars & moon, or the Sun. Sometimes I have seen the sky through unknown windows. Also there is a great feeling of expansion. I still have no idea what does it mean, it could be personal or my heavily interpreted version of the 3D blackness. Again, my method is not phasing anymore, it has took a dreamy turn so to speak (seems I'm in upstream).

I think 2b is already after the "astral screen." It's like a very brief OBE flying above cities and meadows. It could be alternated with the sense of being in the body (perhaps paralell processing of sensory informational occurs at that point, and memories about alternated locales are only some conflict of linear recollection. To prove the opposite one could take mental notes in one stage on the other).

Hovever, I'm not sure that 2b is already the astral, because phasing into the astral through 2b could be acccomplished by two manner. You could "see through your closed eyes" somewhere between F12 & 21 into the RTZ (2b/1...hehe sorry) or you could wake up in your astral bedroom (the personal landing unit projected into F22 by your uncosncious expectatations of still being in your bedroom) which is indeed in the "astral" and may correspond to 2b/2. Somwhere between 2b/1 & 2b/2 should be the state where astral screen is shows up if we don't loose consciousness at the transition from F21 to F22, which seems hard because it's associated to the natural start of dreaming.

We could call the latter (2b/2) as "phasing through closed eyes" in the sense that an internal dissociation of consciousness is required to project above the bioplasmic layer. This internal mindsplit is called trance / hypnosis. One part of your being should be asleep (in F10) while an another part is detached and observe the process, evantually regain awareness in F12 as a projeactable double. The internal mindsplit occurs between those consciousness center which projected upon the body image above and below the diaphragm as navel chakra & heart chakra respectively. As you may already suspect F21 is associated with the top of the head.

quote:You mean you hear hypnagogic sounds while you're up and around?

Nope, I have to lie still and listen. I use earplugs to sample that noise. 5 minutes is sufficient to isolate a potential window. I've found that interrupting sleep greatly increase inner noises. You might observe as well that these noises tend to build into brief bursts hitting a treshold where they seem to transform into brief sequences of realistic noises & talking. Kinda like the auditory equvivalent of the fleeting visual pictures we see in the first stage of hypnagogia but these sounds are more close to the waking state and greatly related to potential OBE-prestates.

Letting the noises burst (if there is any at all) is one of my favorite thing to do in order to facilitate an "OBE," because this activity seems to help to close the sensory gate and perhaps directly promote sleep paralysis as well. I've found that I can facilitate these bursts by trying/letting to imagine brief sequences of noises or music.

First, as sleep progress, the intervals between bursts will decrease and at the same time noises become louder. With every burst, ability to hearing external noises is temporally lost. Eventually the bursts will unite into a loud sequence of white noise (sometimes almost inbearable) which is immediately followed by various degrees of silence and paralysis.

In my earlier projections I have often seen hypnagogic pictures in the following, I have to say, suspicious order:

1. faint, fleeting thought-like pictures of faces, objects, etc. (everyone see this type of imagery at sleep onset)

2. stable pictures of two kinds (exlusive for LDs/APs/OBEs)
a.) close sights of abstract-organic pictures in fluid motion
b.) passive hovering, drifting above various landscapes

3. glimpses of the room I have been slept in from various perspectives outside of my body (this is the last stage before an "OBE" occurs)

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My method was something that you may would like to call phasing, passively observing sleep as it progress - which technically is a WILD (or WIOBE?).

I've observed that "lucid dreaming" is very likely after the process has reached the 2nd stage. I've concluded the first stage as something that has to do with the process of shutting down my brain and its ability to process memories, while the second and third stage as brief dreaming sequences. Sometimes I was able to jump into the pictures of the stage 2b but was unable to hold them for more than a minute.

It was seemed to me that pictures of the 3rd stage is generally no different from 2b, therefore just before the feeling of separation takes place I have to jump into some pictures that portrayed my bedroom!

The 2a stage and especially the exact order of the stages was a great mystery for me. I was thought that they were special dreams. Now, I see things a little different.

2a pictures might be some kind of visual interpretations of my system in work from an "inner perspective." Perhaps this stage happens when my consciousness abandon its identification with the body. Could it be the exact point where I get into OB? I don't think so.

It seems to me that in reality a typical, non-RTZ projection occurs "from the opposite direction" than we expected. If you like it, you could say that we're outside of our body all the time. When identification with our body is ceased by the onset of sleep, somwhere  around the hypnagogic state. I think hypnagogia with 2b pictures mark the state we start to operate, normally "unconsciously", from an almost non-local point of view, supposedly by an energy field which "hover above the land" and penetate other energy fields: places & peoples whom we are emotionally connected with. This is the intermediate state between OBE & dreaming, somwhere around F21.

Basically our brain & body are more likely to serve as some kind of lens to our Higher Self in order to localise and further specialise its perception. However, partly because our memories are stored in the physical brain (and bioplasm body) and because they not just have to be linearly reorganised for remembrance but they have to be linked to our previous experiences, we are unable to understand our HS's as it is. All in all, we have no memories of that existence.

Due to this conflict, we are hoplessly bound to our localised perception and we are forced to choose our body as reference just before we gain full controll of an ongoing OB-like state. In this regard, typical "OBEs" seem to be the poor man's phasing.

You should avoid exposure to bright light which will delay sleep onset.

I've found the most appropriate time to go back to sleep is when you hear bursts of inner noises.

I think you have misunderstood my whole method. It is like your Surprised Body method with a CD-player. The working essence of the original LOG-loop concept is a very loud and brief acustic signal that will raise you up from deep sleep. It's not a constant noise at all. (Continous reality check is not possible due to habituation.)

In one version of the LL, I have been used a very quiet bip-like noise in every 30 sec to help me get inner silence and continously keep me informed about the OS (crashed or still running). I've tired to use this signal for suprise the sensory gate when it is about to close (making me temporally deaf for noises below a treshold of volume). I've found that there is no such point, or more exactly, it could be absent when I suceed in being aware of my hearing all along. Seems like our brain is able to support many different OBE related states in which we are still able to hear.

But this states are not like LOG and more likely they will result some low degree etheric separations. In my opinion, the body is not really paralysed just slip into a state characteried by extremly low general muscle tone.