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Hi All,

My daughter has been sick for the last week so I have been very sleep deprived which brought on a migraine last night right before bed.

I woke up about 4:30 AM and had to take my normal bathroom break. I was feeling tired and hazy due to the migraine I suffered right before bed. It's not the migraine that has pain, I just see wild swirling zigzig colors in my sight and seem to feel somewhat dull. Before anyone suggests tumor, I have been to the neurologist and have had MRIs of the brain and EEGs of my thoughts, all is in the normal.

So after my bathroom break I laid back down and drifted off and then about 10 minutes later I woke up in sleep paralysis. This has happened in the past (rarely) and each time I feel panic struck. This time when it started out it wasn't any different, and I could also sense that someone or something was watching me, just like every time before.

When I started researching OBEs last week I noticed people saying that sleep paralysis was right on the edge of an OBE, so I have been telling myself for the last 2 weeks that if this happens to me again, that I would calm down and try to exit my body.

Ok, so I was in the bed fighting to get back to waking state and I realize what's happening and calm myself down. I start trying to will myself out of my body by first trying to float up out of my body. This technique fails. Next I try the roll out technique and BINGO! I roll out of my body and I am standing beside my bed. I never tried to look at my astral body but I do see the outline of my Wife and daughter laying in the bed.

I look at the window next to the bed and for the first time I want to leave the house so I think about floating through the window. Just like magic I float right though it and I am hovering about 12 feet above the yard in the middle of my backyard. I can also feel my subconscious rushing in and trying to take over my thoughts and my sight seems to be somewhat hazy. I literally yell out "Clarity NOW!", "Control NOW"!. My sight improves and I get more control. The funny thing about this is I heard my voice which has never happened in a dream before.

I think to myself about how I told a co-worker that I was going to visit his house if I jump out of my body again so I instantly have the desire to fly to his house. No sooner than the thoughts enter my mind and take off into the sky and I am flying over Austin. Once again I feel my subconscious start taking over again. I stop somewhere over Austin and I think I was about 5000 feet up in the air. I am looking around and for some reason I lose control and just get stuck up in the sky.

My subconscious takes over and I blink out for a second and end up in a strange house with some guy, his wife and his two daughters. I somehow get control of my consciousness again. I tell the guy that I am not dreaming and start arguing with him. The guy seems to be from the past, maybe the late 1800s, and he is getting very upset at me because I keep telling him that he is just a figment of my imagination. I can feel my subconscious taking over. I can feel myself needing to wake up. I wake up and I am not paralyzed anymore.

There are several things that I noticed. I noticed that the backyard had some differences and it's hard to describe, but it was not an exact replica of my backyard. I am not sure if this was because I was constantly battling my subconscious but I would love to hear some good techniques for staying focused and for pushing these dream thoughts away.

I also noticed the the roll out technique seems to work more ofter than the float out of the body technique. I think this is because I am a programmer and I tend to be very logical minded. I think that in my mind the thought of floating out still somehow defys logic and rolling out seems to make more sense. Next time I am going to run the thought "Floating is perfectly logical and normal", and then see what happens.

What do you all think about this? Was this a OBE or a lucid dream?

Best Regards

David

Yeah, I agree with what you have last written above. Maybe I did misread you first post .

classikcage,

How foreign was the concept of projection before you started trying?

The idea that's floating around is that ultimately the universe is thought to be made of pure energy and thought and that thoughts actually manifest matter and actually masks the true nature of the universe which is energy. 

Many well know physicists and Authors of some of the most popular astral projection books believe that thoughts themselves create reality and the physical matter that make up your physical self. Rhonda Byrne is one such author who wrote a book called "The Secret" which covers this topic of thought becoming reality at a high level.

I would say that if you are fairly new to the concept of projection, continue thinking about it all the time and keep a positive and patient attitude at the same time. You should eventually see results as your thoughts will turn into reality.

To directly answer your question, it took me 1 week to project for the first time. I thought about it day and night and basically blocked everything else out for the entire week leading up to my first projection..

I hope this helps.

Best Regards

David

CFTraveler

I was mostly basing the question on the Robert Monroe book "Ultimate Journey" I just finished reading. He has a program called "Lifeline" where he trains people to listen for help signals coming from what he calls focus level 23 (People who have died and got stuck). He claims to have gotten infomation from people who have died back in early 20th century that related to their physical life such as name, address, when they died, how they died etc. He was then able to validate some of this to be accurate.

He also refers to the "I-There" which is a cluster of consciousnesses and previous lives that he has lived. He claims to be able to relive any of these lives is perfect detail and to also be able to pull any memory from any previous life in perfect detail.

I am now 100 pages into the book by William Buhlman "Adventures Beyond the Body: How to Experience Out-of-Body" and he as well makes references to OBE where he communicates with dead family members that he never really knew.

It seems to me that the only point of our lives on Earth is to bring back human experience to the astral planes. These accounts that both Authors describe seem to somewhat contradict what you state above. I think I get what you are saying though, which is that some people forget that they were once human over time.

Best Regards

David

Stevie.

I just started trying to consciously induce OBEs about two weeks ago and have already had 3. I will share with you my technique, it seems to work for me.

a) I lay down and get comfortable.

b) I listen to either "Brainsync - Deep meditation" or what others have recommended "Tibetan Chakra Meditations". I have been successful with both.

c) I start running thoughts through my head. The ones I use the most are "I am leaving my body now". I also say things like, "where I am going I need no physical body", or "My body is much more than physical matter".

d) I repeat the above over and over and over for about 15 - 30 minutes until I feel random dream thoughts trying to invade my thoughts. When this happens this is when concentration comes in. You have to push the dream thoughts out of your mind. I find that if I can push these dream / random thoughts aside for a minute or so the vibrations will start.

e) All I have to do at this point is think about being out of my body and I usually float out or roll out to the side of my bed.

Something else worth noting, not sure if anyone else has been able to do this, but last night I tried to project around 4 AM and I didn't think about anything other than it's time to project and the vibrations started. I killed the experience though because my blackberry went off.

Hope this helps.

Best Regards

David

Hi All,

I have another experience to share, something that happened in the past about 29 years ago. This event was buried in my memory and for some reason after attempting OBEs the last tow week I have suddenly remember this.

I lived in a small house that had a pretty big attic of which the entrace to it was right outside my bedroom door at the time. You may or may not have ever seen these type of attic doors, but there is basically a door in the ceiling that is held closed by heavy duty springs, and on the door there is a large string, almost the size of a rope that is attached to it which is used to pull the door down to reveil the latter.

I was about 4 years old at the time and had a very wild imagination. I would think about monsters under the bed and more specifically I would think about what might lurk up in the attic. I would always have my mind focused very intently on this attic door every night while falling asleep, thinking that something may push it open and peek out at me. I would eventually drift off to sleep and my fears of this would disappear.

So I was laying in bed on this particular night and I had just drifted off and then the very next second I was floating above the attic door and there was this enormous buzzing sound the was saturating my body, it was so loud that it was drowning out my thoughts almost. The attic was lit up very bright and I could see everything cystal clear. The attic should have been pitch black, even if the light had been on it would have been very dim. I was actually in the attic!

I was only in the attic for like 1 second and I became so alarmed by the sound of the buzzing and the fact that I was in the attic that I woke up immediately.

I am not sure if this was a childhood OBE, but now that I have been able to recall it happening it sure fits the description.

Fascinating!

Best Regards

David

Hi All,

About 10 years ago when I lived in Georgia, a friend of mine and myself made our way back home from Atlanta. We were headed towards Chattanooga which is a town in Tennessee located 100 miles north of Atlanta. It was a 1.5 hour drive and was during the night, my friend was driving crazy and I had to tell him repeatedly to slow down and drive normal.

I got home in one peice around 11 PM and laid down for sleep. About 30 minutes later I felt myself drift off to sleep. Suddenly I woke to find myself fully conscious and behind the wheel of a car that was traveling at what felt like 100 mph through a field in the pitch black. There was no windshield in the car and I could feel the wind rushing in on me. I could not see anything and I was terrified, I knew in my mind that I had actually been driving and was dreaming that I made it home and now had actually woke up after falling asleep behind the wheel and was in a field about to die. The thing is, I was dreaming and the dream was more real than reality. I was fully aware of myself and had full control of myself.

I woke up about 10 seconds later and was literally kicking the wall because in the dream i was frantically stomping the brake trying to stop.

When considering how real this seemed and the fact that I could feel the wind on my face etc, could this have possibly been an OBE?

Best Regards

David

Hi All,

So I have a question for anyone that may have participated in the program "Lifeline" or any such program like it.

Has anyone encountered a person who has just died who was very evil (or should I say cruel) who killed, raped or tortured innocent children in there physical life? I would like to know if this evil (or should I say cruelty) passes over to the other side?

I am not looking for opinions, I am only looking for information from those who have actually experienced meeting someone like this in the afterlife.

It just seems like if I can bring my good intentions to the afterlife, why would a cruel / ill intent person suddenly lose this part of them when crossing over after death and sudden become a good soul?

After finishing Robert Monroe's last book "Ultimate Journey" this week I didn't see much mention of this.

Best Regards

David

jezsika,

Check your messages on here. Feel free the msg me anytime.

I think I am making some progress.

My first OBE earlier this week was somewhat hazy and lacked the control that I desire, however last night was different.

Like last time, I got up around 4 / 5 ish AM for a bathroom run and then went back to bed and started repeating "I am leaving my body".

This time I felt mild vibrations and then my head just sank into the bed. I knew that I was breaking free and phasing into my astral body. I then just rolled back and forth about 3 times and then eventually just rolled out of my body to the left side and landed in a squatting position on the floor beside the bed.

I could not see very good as was the case last time. This time I was prepared and knew what to do. I simply thought "clarity", "awareness". and instantly the room lit up. I was there only a fraction of a second because I thought about my childhood home 1000 miles to the east. I was instantly standing  in the the front yard of the house I grew up at.

I then realized I was back home and that my grandmothers house was only 1 mile to the east (She is sick and close to dieing) so I just instinctivvely took off flying to the east. While flying over the trees, I noticed how much detial there was to everything, actually seemed more detailed than waking life.

I lost focus at this point and woke up.

Just thought I would share these experiences in hopes that it will inspire others to discover their true self. I will continue to post my progress as I have new experiences.

Best Regards

David

2432615184: I guess I should point out that I have been listening to meditation tracks for the last year and I also practice Yoga (My cure for migraines). I am not sure if any of this helped speed up the process, but like others have mentioned on this forum, this type of thing doesn't seem to happen overnight for most people. I would say most people don't even know this is possible, I know I didn't know until a couple of weeks ago and I am around meditating hippies all the time.

I think the main thing is to know it's possible and REALLY believe it's possible, and this philosophy can be applied to anything in life. The more you think about something and believe in it the more the mind brings whatever it is into reality.

Make meditation a way of life and I am sure you will see positive results in not only OBEs, but all other aspects of life.

When I rolled out, my physical body did not move. It was all in my head in a dreamlike state. Like I mentioned above, it was not a normal dream, because in a normal dream I have no awareness of my physical body or my wife laying in the bed.

It was either a very lucid dream or an OBE I am not really sure at this point. When I floated over my wife I was very much aware and conscious. I knew that I had induced the state, I knew where I was and who I was and was looking at the room just as it really is. The part the irritates me is that I tried to open my eyes and lost it .

Maybe the eye thing is a common occurrence.

Hi Everyone,

I am happy to see that there are so many people interested in something that is so overlooked and unknown and considered false by a great majority of the population (Especially in the US).

I knew nothing about Astral Projection until about 2 weeks ago when my friend of 11 years mentioned it to me and that she had been doing this for 20 years. I just had to get started immediately to make up for lost time.

I want to share my progress after a week of trying and get some opinions about my experience last night. I think I might have projected however I feel it may have been a lucid dream.

I have been using the same technique for a week now ever night. I start off by listening to "Brain Sync - Deep Meditation - 1 - Music + Theta Waves.mp3" while I fall asleep. I try the following steps while I listen and fall asleep, or any time that I wake up during the night.

a) I close my eyes and focus on the blackness and I run the following words through my mind over and over and over. "I am leaving my body"

b) After a while I start to notice that random thoughts try to enter my mind, I can feel the dream state coming on. When this happens I block out the random thoughts and continue to run the words above through my head and I start imagining myself floating out of my body.

Until last night I have had no success. Last night I still fell asleep at the beginning of the night but I woke up a 5 AM and had a bathroom break. When I went and laid back down I tried the same steps above and saw results.

Five minutes after I laid down and as I was imagining floating I felt a high pitched energy enter my body. It seemed to be centered in my jaw, forehead, arms and legs and my body started vibrating. I ignored this and stayed calm and then I was able to roll out of my body to the left side of the bed. I looked over at the bed but could not see myself as it was dark. I was able to make out my wife in the bed. I then lost it an woke up.

Then ten minutes after this while using the same technique again the same vibrations happened, however this time I floated over my wife and sat down at her side of the bed in the floor and was looking around the room for about 5 seconds. I then for some reason felt like I should open my eyes, even though I could see fine, and I was instantly back in bed.

Was this an ODE or just a lucid dream? I was totally aware of the state I was in and that I invoked it, however it did still seem dreamlike.

Best Regards

David