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#326
That's what I use, also mind hum which again I think comes from there originally.
Nice and simple.
#327
closed skeptism is so boring, why bother? where's the wonder.
mind you, closed believer is just as bad :-) two sides of a coin perhaps.
#328
I've heard TM can cause problems, disassociation and other issues. It encourages an abundance of slower brainwaves alone, which is also the frequencies associated with depression and similar disorders. However whilst this sounds logical enough on a first reading, I do not know anything about the techniques of TM and how they differ from simple meditation work.
I'm sure there are plenty of meditators here who are experienced who can testify different regardless.
#329
People who bring you down are a pain big time. On the one hand you can teach yourself how not to be drained by them sometimes but otherwise why put yourself through it. It's not so much they're "bad" but their energy draining and mentality is often not great for you, especially if you are trying to work on your own energy fields and other stuff.  Several of my friends are drainers. the more energy work I do the less I see them and the more protected I am when I see them, i.e I don't open up with them any more.
#330
LOL that's a funny place to put weed taking instructions :-).
#331
The illegality of a drug is to me a poor reason not to try it :-). Mainly because by accepting the opinion of the government on it you aren't making a real choice but following the party line. Now not trying a drug because it's not an experience you want, you don't like what it's done to anyone you know who's tried it. Or for health reasons and gut instinct-those are some of the best reasons in the world.
I won't try cocaine because I don't want to snort something up my nose, I don't truly understand what it will do to me and it's too pricey.
I won't try heroine because I've seen too many addicts. Their lives ARE ruined.
I've tried cannabis plenty, because only in extreme cases have I seen harm just like with alcohol etc
I've tried speed because again it took abuse on the users part before it caused issues.
The legal thing isn't the reason to not try for me, the health thing is. :-)
Speed scatters chi, cannabis slows it down for me.
#332
Welcome to Quantum Physics! / Enlightening Science
January 06, 2005, 04:36:00
What on earth is the difference between magneto–electric radiation and electro–magnetic radiation?
I've only read through the first page, and my gut instint involves the syllables quack, quack.   I'm not against people trying to expand science outside the estabilishment, I think in many ways it's the only way it will move forward. But this doesn't feel very real to me. superlight comes out of black holes! ? Something doesn't add up here. Later maybe I'll have more time and reread the site in loads of detail perhaps.  And I think I'll still find a mixture of valid science and quack science.
Any scientists in here read this yet?
#333
One question Rastus, because the phrase keep bugging the **** out of me :-) What on Earth do you mean by 4D/5D existence and practical examples of 4D living? Is this simply a metaphor for something else, like integrating spirit awareness into your life or what?
Also is there a need to give up all this stuff to become spiritual? Or is this individual? I really had to ask because well it interested me! :-) No critiscm is implied or intended by the way!
I'm not seeking to become spiritual myself, I don't know what that means. I practice energy work and healing because it's one of the few things I know I can do, connect with and energy training makes me feel good.
#334
You are trying to utilise muscle memory to allow yourself to focus your attention to any part of your body as necessary.  The model you are looking for is hands. Mental hands if you like.
When you stroke, scratch normally-do you then NOT feel the rest of your body? No.
You simply have your attention focussed on where you are touching/scratching/stroking. Its a normal fade affect to a degree.
So when you are using your mental hands, using a physical touch to target the area is meant to guide you to mentally touch that area.
It doesn't get mystical or anything.  You'll simply find that after 30seconds to 2 mins of such mental stirring stroking or wrapping actions that the area may tingle, tickle or heat up without you physically touching it.
The phrase tactile imaging and mobile body awareness are simply that. tactilely imagining sensations in the body. Mobile awareness being able to switch your conscious focus to other parts of your body. Typically your conscousness will rest behind your eyes somewhere.
#335
Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / mindblowing
January 05, 2005, 08:07:09
What do you mean by psychic boy? :-)
#336
How long has this been going on for?  When I started I already had depression issues. The energy work alleviates them, clearing the mind meditation seems to halt any heavy head nonsense for me.
However there are forms of meditation that encourage brainwaves of the frequencies associated with depersonalisation, depression and other symptoms. One of these is known as transcendential mediation, I have seen links on the net talking about mental health issues from this particular practice.  I personally can't validate this though, but yes, it's not unknown.

In line with your meditation are you doing energy training or other developement? Have you balanced it with a better diet perhaps? This becomes more important the more you do-annoyingly.
Are you stimulated in other ways? regular enjoyment, social contact and work? You may have to change your job to suit you better, you may need new sports or social activities. Your brain will need a wider range of stimulation perhaps? This is about balance now I think.
I'm opinionating and trying to draw from what I know.
Hopefully others will also have some better ideas-I get this problem also-but I stay in at home too much. I can't find enough things to do either as far as going out is concerned.
#337
If a magnetic pole shift does happen anytime in my lifetime-unless either I or someone who loves me enough invents a nice FTL spacecraft. OR I or someone who loves me is the world's greatest wizard/mage etc-I think I'm pretty much toast. So like nuclear disaster or similar I'm not going to even consider it worth worrying about. Unless there is something real that I can actually do at that time to get myself and the people I care about away to safety.  
To me that safety doesn't mean to survive barely for the years afterwards in an impoverished state either.
So for me this is another reason not to worry about 2012 predictions and similar stuff. It's irrelevent to me. I can't stop it if it's gonna happen. I don't believe the things myself. too many doomsday dates come and go. Nothing happens. :-)
The sanctuary sounds like a great fun idea in itself Tayesin. Could be a wonderful spiritual retreat in it's own right.
#338
I've been trying to do more with energy since I was about 11, I read a lot of my mother's books on magic, hypnosis and other subjects. It was an accident that I became aware of being able to move "energy", but once I could I practiced a lot-even though it was in an instinctive and ad hoc manner. It took years before I realised it was more tactile than anything.
I also tried meditation, spells oh the list goes on. I'm now 27 and the only reason I haven't abandoned the field of the "paranormal" if you like, is the fact that I have been able to course healing to occur in a lot of people I've tried to work on. If it wasn't for that by now with the time I've put in I would have dismissed it all as nonsense to be honest.
As it is now, it seems to me that it's near impossible to me to go beyond moving a bit of energy. I've been practicing chakra work as well from the NEW system and have worked systematically. No matter how much time I spend on it nothing changes outside the practice. Inside the practice session it's just simple effort and sensation. I can always feel "chi" as heat/tingles and rushes. It's pretty consisten, no sense of blockages. But no psychic senses ever manifest, nor does my dream life change.
I hope people can understand my sheer frustration when I DO think about this consciously. Most of the time I ignore this issue and just practice what I can feel, but I do feel I'm locked into a boring level of reality that nothing I do changes.
Just as a side note-I have tried different drugs in my life, ecstacy, weed, LSD(once!) and varying doses of mushrooms, also Salvia.
Guess what? Only visual distortions at the very best. Slight tactile and balance issues. some emotional switches on one dose of mushies.
Regardless of dose, hallucination and other weird excrement doesn't happen. Yet another confirmation that I can't go "beyond". Very boring, very frustrating, very disheartening.
I would have tried the payote or ayausca ceremonies but money, and other things have stopped me now and I probably won't. Especially as I've not used anything more than some wine for 2 yrs now.
Basically to my subconscious I just have one reality and some dreaming reality. It's a flaming pain in the ****! LOL.
Sorry if my frustration is just coming through now. I don't let it out that much usually :-) so I hope people don't mind, and I hope my releasing this might help someone else too?
Regards
Karn-Aut-Rahl
#339
Guys just HOW much energy do you have to raise to even begin this stuff? I've also been working with NEW for sometime now, and 2hrs most days is not unusual. It's usually strong enough to make me sweat even when it's cold. However regardless of the amount of energy work or the amount of attempted meditation nothing much changes in my dream world. At all.  It's pretty demotivating to find continous effort isn't bringing any reward.

What kept me doing NEW to start with was the immediate feedback to systematic training. Now however I don't feel I'm getting much further. It does just seem to be harder and harder to get any further. That's a serious demotivator big time.  Is it just me?
I have commented elsewhere that I feel I'm in a psychic cage. As in I cannot get any psychic senses or glimpses of more interesting realities. I'll elaborate elsewhere sometime. Just to say I've a frustrated experience of reality. Beyond energy work internally it just feels that the closed skeptic worldview is becoming slightly more in line with what I am managed to sense. Which is NOT what I want. :(
#340
Welcome to Astral Chat! / harry potter
January 04, 2005, 11:28:34
Quotelets face it some people dont even belive in god how sad is that
Why? I don't believe in a god, do I need to? To be not sad that is.

How many children pick up on these ideas from Harry Potter do you think? I know the youngsters I've worked with would point to spells and magic for sure, but also I think they'd notice the roles of courage, honor and honesty, also of  how bullying and lying/cheating tend to bring the culprits down in the end.  For me the most valuable "lessons" perhaps are these values.  

Magic is a nice bonus.
#341
Is it possible to NOT have any spirit helpers/guides/angels? Because I don't think I do at this time.
#342
Welcome to Astral Chat! / harry potter
January 04, 2005, 07:35:34
How? I've seen all the films and read all the books-so where's the education exactly? Or is this satire LMAO!.
#343
I do the spinal bounce thing every day myself. So far I've taken it to the squirm in my seat level and sweating. I get the waves rushing over the crown also. I've played with this spinal heat/electricity for over 18months now-and I'm  still NOT psychic LOL :-). This is in conjunction with NEW Energy ways also.  I'm aware when I first started I was attempting to raise kundalini. Hell I got a great sex drive out of it. But I stopped trying that explicitly.
Mr Bruce might be the best man or I've seen Leo Volant talk about this I think.
#344
I have to say,

QuoteThis technique will raise your agility, speed, and strength, as well as make your ki flow more easily and smoothly. To start out, get into any stance you are comfortable with. Now, start drawing in ki with deep breaths through your nose and visualizing it entering your body. When you feel you have a sufficient amount of energy, visualize it flowing inside of your body, ready to explode. Then, visualize it moving, creating a glow around you, and then exploding outside of your body, surrounding you in flames. Make these flames of ki surround you and keep them moving from inside you to outside of you, and then back in, in a cycle. If you merely explode the energy outside of you and forget about it, then it's not going to do you any good - it will just waste energy. When you're doing that, you can tense your muscles if you want, or you can remain completely relaxed. It doens't make a difference, but whatever way works easiest for you is best. Just think and concentrate on the fact that it is powering you up. Use your ishi (your will power) to make it happen. If you do this right, you may feel a little warm/tingly/electric sensation around your whole body. This power up also helps prevents burn outs, and since it makes your ki flow more easily, it makes it much easier to perform the ki ball technique, when first starting out.

That this I can do easily, in fact I have to before doing physical training as some of my exercises are little too hard for me otherwise :-). Only I simply feel this, like having an internal set of muscles. The NEW system would say bounce your energy through your body faster and faster until you reach the point where you can't keep "touch" with it. Then slow it down and increase your mental effort.
You might want to skip ahead to microcosmic orbit by the way, you can generate a lot of sensation in the spine with it.
How long have you been working on this site. There is a reason I ask. I've only briefly looked it over, and despite their use of DBZ(!!) they are presenting some techniques that could work for learning to sense and move energy. However you want to build your energy body systematically. If you've been working a few days then you'll need a fair bit more time. If however you've spent some weeks on this then a "feeling" for the flame technique shouldn't be too far out.

I will post more opinion once I've had time to evaluate the site properly however. The microcosmic orbit is a technique from Mantak Chia's work. Don't rush yourself in this, seriously. If your are trying super hard too soon you can build a fragile energy body which makes burnouts much more likely.  Hence why NEW is useful as that goes through this stuff methodically. I'm willing to take the time to help further if our time zones allow it. You can message me on msn messenger easily enough, if I'm at the pc I will reply. I think I can work with you to help you with this stage at least.

[edit] There are later techniques on the site that on first reading still end up belonging to the realm of dragonballZ LOL. That doesn't reduce the value of the exercises that do work. Just seems a little odd to have such a strange hybrid of useful information and "far out" information.
#345
Note: I will attempt to put my understanding only in the context of healing/ap etc as there are more mundane dictionary terms also for some of these words. I take it as given these are already taken for granted!! :-)

Ground - (adj) to ground, after performing healing/energy work in a trance a procedure used literally to bring yourself back to earth and normal daily life.  Techniques include eating, drinking, walking or quick exercise, elimination. There are energetic techniques also for this.

Alternatively to ground can mean literally to sink your "chi" into the Earth in the practice of qigong/tai chi and other internal arts. Furthermore some forms of healing require you to deliberatly ground yourself before attempting to perform healing.

Finally in some healing techniques to ground may also mean to throw everything you may have picked up from your patient- (negative energy wise), into the Earth to be transformed.

Aware(ness) - I modified this to attempt to explain it the best way I know how.  How conscious are you right now? How many things are you noticing when you walk? Awareness to me seems to be the internal mental action of engaging in the world around you. This can be focussed in many ways.  As one could write a book, indeed some have on this subject I won't attempt to define any further here. Too tired :-).

Symbol-Visual representation of a concept? A calling card for a group/company or spiritual calling. Or look at this writing-it's also a collection of symbols. This has levels of meanings also like most of these words. Examples include the Yin/Yang, I Ching, a flag, a company logo. There are deeper metaphorical ways to express a symbol I'm sure. Such as sound cues in a ritual for example.

Vision-Physical? or mental? or psychic? Vision can mean a visual awareness on a number of levels-including temporal vision (past/future), the ability to see into the astral without projecting.
On a wider level it can mean your own vision-like a leaders vision for his/her people or an inventor's vision for their ideas. In this case they can be described as visionary.

Sound-I've skipped this one as the only thing I can think of here is clairaudience, psychic hearing.  Someone will have a lovely definition for this having experienced it I'm sure.

Perceive-Function of awareness perhaps? The sensing of your environment is perception-it's also a filter as it's not limited to just your physical senses but what your consciousness makes of the data presented. Note that environment is a universal term here. For some it's just the room they are in, for others it's a far greater space including a whole universe.

Aura - The body of light that appears to surround all things. It's dynamic in living beings and is said to be viewable by appropriate perception on the part of a very aware human (did you like the inclusion of prior definitions? LOL). It is also said to be reflective of internal states of a living being including emotional, physical and spiritual states of being.


Conscious - Was answered above though also I liken to that sensation you have of being "you".

I've run out of intellectual ability right now, because I need sleep :-). So good night folks and thanks for the challenge. I hope I answered it in some halfway worthwhile fashion. I still reserve the right to be wrong and stupid at times.
#346
I also discovered this trick myself this morning by accident. I woke up, wanted to sleep again, tried some detailed beginner NEW exercises, started drifting and felt heavy and paralysed. I realised I could end up in a projectable state. I knew I'd get too interested and worked up-I've NEVER had any success after years of off and on trying.  So to prevent it, I remembered the only meditation trick that totals my mind. The overwhelming "Om" trick. Single syllable made mentally loud and all consuming. it worked. I can recall what it feels like to hold the state, Now I have to try to repeat :-).
#347
Time for some reading I think :-). In the earlier days of projection exploration there was a definition of etheric projection being a projection into the real world by the etheric body.  This is now considered a projection into the "Real Time Zone", an astral mirror of the ordinary waking world. Again of course you must take this as a working theory until you can check it by your own experience.
The original definition of astral projection was the projection into the planes where your thoughts affect the environment directly.  This is a simplified explanation of course.
A side note, in I think the Muldoon book there is a reference to the etheric having been weighed by a process of elimination either during a projection or death. They actually came to a conclusion that the etheric body weighed 8oz!!
Now I think that's possibly accounted for in death by a relaxation of the lungs and exhaled air etc.

There is plenty more to say, however I'm tired, there are more experienced projectors here. For now I'd consider what used to be known as Etheric Projection is actually an astral projection into the real time zone. on Astraldynamics.com you will find Robert Bruce's treatise on astral projection I believe that may help you also.
#348
Welcome to News and Media! / Earthquake Machine
January 03, 2005, 12:14:32
I really really hope that this is just yet another fantasy.
I really really do HOPE that my natural skeptism is the right reaction.
Because if it's not, and this article has a large element of truth, then the instigators of this machine do not deserve to finish this particular incarnation as this is a crime against the planet and humanity on the widest scale. The twisted mind behind it is probably beyond redemption for some lives yet.
Still I hope that it's just another conspiracy theory that isn't truel
QuoteAt the end of this arm is a directable nozzle that can be pointed at any surface area on this planet.
^ This doesn't read true here though. How big is the arm? The only way you can reach any surface area on a sphere is to be in orbit. And not geostationary.
#349
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Standardize The Words
January 03, 2005, 12:00:11
psi - This seems to be a catchall description of the kind of power involved in telekinesis, pyrokinesis, telepathy and similar. Not sure how it relates to energy work training and astral projection-but there probably is a relationship.

Kundalini - Serpent of Fire energy (metaphoric description of what it will feel like!) Said to be the strongest energy the human body can manifest.

Energy - Catchall description for everything that exists really-matter is energy, light is energy, chi is energy. Usually needs specifying though often used in discussion to mean chi/ki/prana-though that's laziness on my part!

Vibration -  The kinetic movement of a medium. whether it's the skin on a drum, the compression/decompression of air(sound) or the movement of molecules in matter (the property of heat is a result of this. Often used to describe sensations arising from energy training, stages in astral projection and also used a lot in "astral theory", probably because there is a shortage of appropriate language to describe the astral and other existences.
density - The amount of matter in a given volum
focus level - State of mind-alert, relaxed, deeply relaxed, light trance, deep trance and loads of others.

Chakra -Major energy exchange and transoformation  portal/organ of the energy body.

Project - To project your consciousness outside of yourself, to copy your consciousness into your "astral" or other bodies.

Remote view -
Kinesis - Simply means movement. Greek root I believe. e.g Telekinesis (distant movement).

---These are tough, beliefs vary the most on these I think---
Spirit - Used interchangeably often with Soul and higher self. So I will put my PERSONAL view. Though spirit often refers to an astral entity also.
Soul - If you hold your newborn child and look into their eyes for a short time, what do you feel inside you? and inside their eyes?.
Higher self - See above, though you can also add to this the feeling you get after extensive meditation if you feel expanded. Perhaps this is getting in touch with your higher self.
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Mind - Conscious everyday manifestation of "you"+ the mechanical workings of your brain.

Astral sex - ! Sex with another astral being?

Astral - label applied to a plane of existance where mind influences the environment. Too big a subject for me to try to encompass further.

Real time zone - Layer of the astral plane that mimics the real world.

Enlightened -  Ask easier questions! This one is individual I believe, though there are commonalities enough to allow good advice and discussion to be had.

There that's all I can deal with typing out. It's not brilliant because it's just my own opinions and basic understandings. As such I reserve the right to be wrong, partly wrong and totally barking up the wrong tree(s).
#350
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Sexual Taboo to Legality
January 03, 2005, 11:38:07
I definitly think we got your post! :-)

As for taboos. Laws based on only religious viewpoints feel very wrong to me. I cannot assert they are definitly wrong in all cases of course-I am only stating what I feel :-). Personally wouldn't obey a law that gets in the way of my life if the ONLY reason for it's existence is religion and not something more real to me. Though it's interesting how by and large most people probably roughly go along with a lot of the basic commandments more or less.

I don't think there should be any legal no-no's regarding any sexual activity involving consenting adults no matter what it is as long as A)No kids (yeah there is the thing about where the line is drawn and it differs I know) and B) it does not involve any non consensual abuses of another living being-whether they are emotional or physical. To me that word abuse can also mean inflicting emotional distress on bystanders -i.e having a full blown "scene" in public etc.  
What people do with discretion and noting the above points should be their own business. The law and religion could do with butting out on that one.
There is one caveat with religion, whilst no legal intervention should ever happen, people do turn to their faith for advice when there are consequence for their fun. That's a different realm :-)

BTW This is nothing more than yet another opinion, mine-rambling and worth about as much as any other :-).
QuoteThere's incest... beastiality... pedophilia... polygamous marriage... and meh, I'm feeling a desire to talk about something controversial, everyone avoids that around here, while it's actually a major philosophical issue.

Incest is something that people instinctively don't like-where that "instinct" comes from I don't know so I'll leave this one-I know I wouldn't want to get into it.

Paedophilia is an abuse (even though the greek word used is actually misapplied somewhat) of someone's right to choose for themselves when it's appropriate for them to explore sexuality. It feels deeply wrong and rightly is pretty much out of bounds for most of the world. I'm sure someone feeling controversial will find an arguement if they really want to.

Bestiality-where's the consent? Tough one, as I don't many people who speak horse, dog etc etc and animals can be "groomed" to respond favourably-so I'd put this into the abuse catagory for the most part.

The multiple marriage thing-comes under consenting adults, if there's been no unfair manipulations of any of the partners and the love is there-why should the law interfere really? Oh damn it's the christian thing again. We really have got to get the Bible out of our law books. A good law is one that is good for all faiths.  Oooh that was SOOO pompous :-).

Any others to discuss? :-)  I just like commenting on this stuff. Note the distinct lack of any spirituality context to this.  What sexual things do for a persons spiritual life has certainly got to be determined by the individual. I would say.

Any sexual discrimination just ain't on.