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one more thing! check out the Permanent Astral Topics!

Did I say irish scotch?  man, I must have been tired.  I meant scotch scotch.  Warm and straight.  But not too much of it, or I'll tip over.

Ah, techniques, techniques.  I think I shall use your question for my new FAQ essay [][][]

The techniques are almost zen-like.  Check out my essay on OBE (it's a "sticky" at the top of this section), where I provide a link to Mr. Bruce's Treatise on OBE.  It's almost required reading for those who choose not to purchase his book. It's FREE!

Also, there is a FILE LIBRARY and the material therein is FREE FREE FREE!!!!!!  Lots of stuff in there to help you.

Also, there is a "search" function near the top of the page.  I highly recommend doing a search on the name "Frank," may God bless his big, absent heart.

Birm also has some real good techniques, if you want to call them techniques.  Actually, most techniques are non-techniques.  It makes no sense, I know.  It will make more sense when you succeed.  In the mean time, study the meaning of Zen to get a better idea.

There are no fast ways to OBE except drugs, which I don't recommend.  So you have plenty of time to peruse the archives while you're not busy practicing!

One more thing:  I'm pretty sure I'm descended from Michael Scott (Balweary), the famous occultist/magician.  It would explain the sorcery in my blood!  But it's impossible to prove; they were hardly keeping records back then.  So it only makes a good story.  I am definitely of the Scott clan though.

I'm Scots-Irish-Norwegian-German-British.  All my ancestors huddled around the North Sea.  Shivering, probably.

I'm ready for a pilgrimage to the Old Country.  I want some good Irish Scotch, ans some Guinness on tap, so I can get stinking drunk and sick all over my pointy high-heeled boots!  Just kidding; I'm in a weird mood.  AHEM>

To all I say: FIELD TRIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Let's crash someone's house.  Next SUMMER. When it's WARM.

Welcome to the Forums, ChristianMagick,

I was once so foolish as to call myself a "Christian Witch" (ah, I was young then).  I knew the reality of magic, and was able to do things that could only be described as magical.  But I was SO terrified of the supposed ramifications (hellfire, damnation, etc.) of abandoning my Christian Faith that I just couldn't bring myself to lose the "Christian" moniker.  Plus, I've always had a soft spot in my heart for (the real) Jesus.

But something happened.  The deeper I went, and the more I learned and understood about magic and the nature of the Divine, the less Christian I became.  I didn't love Jesus any less, but I became more wild, more "pagan," more connected to the rhythms of the earth, the elementals, the spirits, etc. etc.  I also saw how Christianity estranged humanity from the natural world, including other humans.  I saw the evil face of Christianity. I watched the horrors. I saw what it did to women.  I saw how through Christianity, people lost their understanding of the immanence of the Divine.

One day, I understood both the point and the pointlessness of Organized Religion, and gave up labels entirely.  It was a brave, brave day that I finally realized I was no longer a Christian.  I still love Jesus, and believe he's helping us from the astral realms. But I am horrified by Christian dogma and reject it, almost in its entirety.

So, if you hold your Christianity dear - - and I can tell from your name that you do - -  think hard before you delve into magic or mysticism of any kind.  You might just lose your faith. I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing.  But you might.

Hi Tao,

Yes to both aol and yahoo.  My online time is extremely limited though (single-working-parent!); in fact I haven't "chatted" in a very long time!  If you find me in the neighborhood though, give me a shout.

Yes, I agree that all these different (and sometimes conflicting) techniques can confuse a newbie.  They also give the false impression that "it's all about technique," when it's most certainly not.  OBE is Whole Life Thing.  Many successful projectors are near-obsessed with OBE and otherworldly phenomena, and devote much of their waking lives to achieving otherworldly states.  Most regular people aren't up to (or even interested in) this level of dedication!

Part 2 to my essay?  A writer should only write about what he/she knows.  Unfortunately I don't know much [].  When I rack up a few more experiences I will write about them.  Lately, however, I've been grounded by some very significant stresses, so I will need to take my own advice if I ever want to OBE again . . .

As for Frank?  We miss him too. []

Ack, it happens sometimes, the blindness.  The next time it happens to you, just think "Sight NOW," I hear it works.

Thanks for the thanks, everyone, Voodoo, Sokrates, everyone, and thanks too Birm for your observations - - - very important and useful stuff!

I've effected changes in other realms that were reflected in the here-and-now when I "woke up."  I did not bring back an object, but willed a change to an existing one: my cat-familiar, McKenzie.  

It was almost by accident.  He was old, skinny, scraggly and ill. He jumped on my bed and disturbed my deep-state.  As I was coming out of it, I had a deep, deep wish for him to be young and healthy again.  Amazingly, he was suddenly all poofy and fluffy and wide-eyed!  I kept running my hands through his new fur, all amazed, for days.

Like someone mentioned before, however, the effects did not last for long.  A few days and it had all faded away, and McKenzie was his old, snaggle-toothed self again.  He died a few years ago, I miss him []

very interesting! tell us more.

KoolGZe, I don't know what you've been reading . . . serious covens are traditionally run by both priest and priestess, and they're usually NOT celibate.  Ever hear of the Great Rite?  HMMMMMMMMM . . . it doesn't seem you've heard of Tantra, either . . . but nevermind . . . I'm getting off-topic.  This thread about kids, not sex.

Anyway, stick around, you might learn a thing or two. Covens and other magical orders are much more than just occult versions of the Catholic Church.  Sex in the occult realms runs rampant . . . even amok. Which can be good or bad, depending on your focus.

oooooooooooooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . I'm too embarrassed to go to Her nowadays .................... (cringe, duck!). One of the hardest things about hearing the Higher Voice is that you're obliged to follow its direction (learn, etc.).  When you don't follow the directions, it's embarrassing to go back for more advice.  If I were her, I'd slap me in the head.

quote:He said the way to judge your level of perfection is how long you go between fights. Every fight begins with the imperfection residing in your own soul. Every fight ends when you uproot that germ and thus it never occurs. So true.

Radha, this is beautiful.  May I quote you? Or him, I mean?

CELIBATE??  (rolls on floor laughing) Man, if you are (honestly and truly) celibate, then you are the first one I've met in my 20+ years of working and playing in the magical community.   I will answer your question re: my order via Private Message.

"High magic" - "ceremonial magic(k),"  are not the only magics in the world. For the record, when Tisha speaks of magic, it is usually the universal, natural, preliterate, shamanic kind kind of magic.  Not the "High-Episcopagan" magick, not Crowley, not names-of-gods, not secret-societies.  I speak of basic hermetics (universal law and its application), otherworldly journeying, communication with the other-than-human realms, symbolism, elementals, shifting realities, etc.  

Secret societies don't have a lock on this knowledge.  Magic has been passed down, mother-to-daughter, man-to-woman, teacher-to-student, for centuries.  All without keys, codes, or secret handshakes.

peace-out,

quote:OK, I apologize in advance for all you U.S. Republicans out there.

I think this one was the funniest of all!  I think I was supposed to day "to," not "for." Freudian slip?  I think I just made my own day!

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Hey beav, you are creating realities.  Look around you! Magic masquerades as the ordinary.  No poofs of smoke, no special-effects. Just you and your life.

Come give momma a big hug, Squeek.  MWAH! []

Thank you Radha!  Over here we call this "the call of the Harieth."  That inner yearning.

I have an astral guide . . . I often go to her with questions.  She's a rather prim, blunt lady.  Usually, she answers with, "What do you want?  How can I help you if you don't even know what you want?

ha ha! Thanks for the reminder.

Yeah, everything is funny "but" . . . .none of the black people I have ever known - - seriously, I mean this - - - ever spoke this way.  Not even the ones who don't speak English very well - - actually, the overseas blacks seem to speak the Kings English much better than I do.

So not only was it supposed to be a racist joke, I didn't even GET IT.
Perhaps that should be a sign for us that we've transcended our racism . . . we just don't get the jokes anymore.

Now joke about racists . . . THEY'RE funny.  Let's stereotype and slam them instead, they deserve it.

KoolGZe, I was going to ignore your comment, but feel the need to respond for the sake of other Astralpulse members.  Your idea that magical knowledge is ONLY held by initiates of (presumably secret) societies is archaic, affected, and almost funny nowadays, given modern realities.

First, what used to be esoteric is now exoteric.  Covens are publishing their books of shadows, and hermetic books of so-called "secret wisdom" can be downloaded off the internet.  

I'm not saying the so-called "masses" necessarily UNDERSTAND what they are reading, but the few with eyes to see and ears to hear, the ones that are ready, do understand.  Sometimes knowledge can come from meditation and prayer, without reading any books at all.

(FYI I was initiated - ceremonial magick, secret society -  back in '85.  I was not required to remain childless).

Secret initiate societies still keep their secrets, but these are secrets peculiar to their magical systems.  MAGIC IS UNIVERSAL AND KNOWLEDGE OF IT CANNOT BE HOARDED BY ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE.  Initiates who believe they can hoard this knowledge have ego problems, and probably joined their "secret society" in order to feel special and superior to others.

The most powerful magician I know is a high priest (small secret society) and community elder, and the father of two beautiful children.  Stand not 6 feet away from him and the electricity will make your hair stand on end (if you're sensitive).  He evokes psychic abilities in nonpsychic people just by his presence! He also teaches magic to noninitiates . . . for at least 20+ years.  So, there you have it.

The Wombat Laws
by Rosemary Edghill, circa 1978


About the Author  
Rosemary Edghill is the author of a number of excellent fantasy stories and novels including the very popular with Pagans Bast trilogy.

THE WOMBAT LAWS

1. THE LAW WAS MADE AND ARDANE about a week from last Wednesday.

2. THE LAW WAS MADE FOR THE WICCCA in order that they should develop a nice longhand style from copying it.

3. The Wiccca should give due worship to the Gozd, presuming they believe the Gozd exist and aren't just metaphors; and obey Their Will, which the HPS of the Coven will make up as she goes along, for it was made for the purpose of ego-tripping and wild parties. The worship of the Wiccca is good for the owners of Occult Supply Stores, for the owners of Occult Supply Stores love the money of the Wiccca.

4. As a man loveth a woman using the missionary position, so the Wiccca should shaft their fellows and other total strangers frequently. And it is necessary that the Magick Circle which is the principal difference between a Wicccan rite and a frat party be cast and all Wiccca properly purified to enter it so they can drink five gallons of Ripple each and not throw up.

5. The HPS shall ruin rule her Coven as the local representative of the Goddess, and choose whomever she is sleeping with this week to be her HP ... or her Maiden.

6. And remember that the Wiccca would have it that The God Himself kissed her feet and gave up the position of Ringmaster to her because of her arbitrariness and autocracy, her spite and un- reason, her mysteriousness and ignorance: so the HP is expected to go as far away as possible and not even show up for Sabbats.

7. It is the greatest virtue of an HPS that she turn as many of her Covenors into closet Xtians as possible, for the true HPS realizes that anyone with the sense Goddess gave a goose is not going to stick around without having a death wish.


8. In the Olden Days when Wiccca extended far, we were free and had reservations in all the best restaurants.
But these days, we eat at McDonald's.

9. SO BE IT ARDANE, that none but the Wiccca shall ever be invited to dinner, for people who ignore us are many, and if they ever found out what we are really up to they would giggle.

10. SO BE IT ARDANE, that no Coven shall know where the next Coven bide, or who its members be, save anybody who looks in Circle Newsletter and the hit team we send out to sanction them.

11. SO BE IT ARDANE, that no one shall tell anyone anything, Least of all thy fellows in the Craft, for fear one of you will learn something; because as it is truly writ: Gerald wrote it, I believe it, and that settles it.

12. And if any break these Laws, they will have to start their own Tradition and make up their own Grandmother.

13. Let each HPS govern her Coven as she damn' well please, riding roughshod over the Covenors as long as they will stand for it.

14. But it must be recognized that sooner or later they will get mad and stop bringing the Ripple to Coven meetings. When this happens, it hath ever been the Old Law that the HPs will Elevate them to the Third Degree and kick them out, and promise them the Rest of the Book ... someday.

15. Anyone of any degree or none may found a Coven, provided they think they can get away with it and can create a convincing Grandmother.

16. They may raid other Covens for members as long as no one knows where to find them.

17. But splitting the Coven oft means new opportunities for evading the consequences of your actions, so the wise HPS will think of it first.


18. If you should keep a Black Book, let it be in your own hand of write, except for the parts you Xerox out of Lady Sheba. Or better yet, tell everybody they're not of a high enough degree to see it.

19. Proclaim your Wicccahood loudly, and often; you may be able to do a brisk trade in spells, psychic fairs, and talk shows. If nobody believes you, try holding a public skyclad circle. If all else fails, hire a press agent and advertise in the National Enquirer. If they try to make you talk of the Brotherhood, lay it on with a trowel. Ancient Atlantis is always good for a five-minute spot on the six o'clock news. Not all interviewers are bad; some may even flash your business address on the screen for a few seconds.

20. Fear not; the Brotherhood is not likely to notice anything you do, and if they do, they will say: Well, we have no patent on the word Witch ... who am I to say she's not honest and valid?

21. To avoid discovery, let your working tools be as ordinary stuff such as any may have around the house: AR-15's, Patton Tanks, Howitzers (let's see how far we can stretch that First Amendment, gang!). Have no names or signs on anything, and remove the ones they came with, as otherwise this can lead to a charge of receiving stolen property.

22. Let the Pentacles be made of wax unless something else is more convenient.

23. Have no sword, unless you are in the SCA or a collector of WWII memorabilia.

24. Write the names and signs on a gummed label so that it can be peeled off immediately afterwards; remember that not guilty by reason of insanity is not a valid defense in cases of this kind.

25. Ever remember you are the Hidden Children of the Goddess; when you can take time out from Karma Dumping Runs, Psychic Vendettas, Banishing each other from the Coven and discussing how much fun it would be to persecute the Xtians, remember never to do anything to disgrace her. Or them, if that's possible.

26. In the Olden Days, when we had Power, we could use the Art against any who ill-treated us; but these days a whispering campaign works better. Remember always that there are a lot of flaky people out there, and for this reason it is best to give a fake name and a Post Office Box address. Someone is always going to blame you for something.

27. SO BE IT ARDANE: HARM NONE, or at least have a good alibi. Never break this law, or people you get burned along with you will come after you with baseball bats, and you will never be able to score any decent hash again.

28. Any HPS who does something you don't like you can walk out on, but be sure to clout the Coven Book on the way to the door and set up in business for yourself (Learn Witchcraft from the Experts!)

29. Always accept money for use of the Art, but keep an eye on the Gypsy laws. In some states, Barter works better. All may use the Art for their own advantage; remember, quick and dirty works best, and you can lay off the Karma on the Coven. If that doesn't work, try dead cats in the mailbox.


30.'Tis the old law and most important of all the Laws that no one may do anything that will endanger any of the Craft. Unless there's money in it, or it's to someone you think deserves it, and anyway 'endanger' is in the eye of the beholder.

31. In any dispute between the Wiccca, no one may invoke any Law but that of the Craft. However, you can break into your opponent's home and mess up his stuff ... after all, it says right here they can't go to the Police.

32. Never bargain or haggle when you buy by the Art; most Occult Store owners will just throw you out and everyone else will think you're a nut.

33. Let the Craft go out and buy a copy of Culpepper's Herbal and a PDR, and learn the names of all pharmaceuticals that will really send you on a bum trip. Keep another book with the antidotes and the names of your suppliers and let only trustworthy people have this knowledge.

34. It is ever the way with men and with women that they are ruled by their glands. At any moment your HPS may run off and become a Rosicrucian. And the way of Resignation is this: if she doesn't answer her phone for two weeks and is never home when you drive by, you can declare her outcast from the Coven and take it over yourself, with as many as will have you. But if she comes back she will probably take over the Coven again, or start another one in the same building and declare you Invalid, and there's not much you can do about it. Learn to live with anxiety. Get everything in writing.

35. It hath been found that two people sitting around with a bottle of Chianti discussing Atlantean Grandmothers will become fond of each other, if only because of the Stockholm Syndrome. Therefore, let it be resolved that an human being shall be taught in the Craft only by another human being, and screw the middle-class morality of the nineteen-fifties.

36. And the Curses of the Mighty Ones be on all who try to take this seriously, or the Craft seriously, or the Wiccca seriously. Caveat Lector, and May the Force Be With You!

http://www.draknet.com/braglorin/main.html

Here is a very nice website for pagan kids (7+). It was developed by a woman in the UK.  She provides lots of basic info but doesn't "go over the line" by teaching spells or magic.  There are activities (games, paper dolls, coloring books) and stuff like that!

enjoy!

quote:I just don't have the time to form relations to get a satisfctory answer.

Astralian, you've told me all I need to know.  Good LUCK, you will need it!

A letter from a third grade teacher to Wiccan parents:

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Thomas,

I write this letter in concern of your daughter, Aradia Moon. Please don't take this the wrong way, however, although she is a straight A student and a very bright child, she has some strange habits that I feel we should address.

Every morning before class, she insists on walking around the room with her pencil in the air. She says she is "drawing down the moon." I told her art class is in an hour and to please refrain until then to do any drawing.

And speaking of art class, whenever she draws a night sky, she insists on drawing little circles around all the stars and people dancing on the ground. And that brings up dancing, I had to stop her twice for taking off her clothes during a game of Ring Around the Rosey! By the way, what does "skyclad" mean?

Aradia has no problem with making friends. I always find her sitting outside during recess with her friends sitting around her in a circle. She likes to share her juice and cookies. It is nice how she wants no one to ever thirst or hunger. However, when I walked over to see what they were doing, she jumped up and told me to stop, pulled out a little plastic knife and started waiving it in front of me. I thought this a bit dangerous, so I took her to the Principal's Office. She explained to the Principal that she was "opening the circle" to let me in. She also said that her Mommy and Daddy always told her not to play or run with an "athame" in her hand, that she could put someone's eye out. I don't know what an "athame" is, but I'm glad she keeps it at home.

As for stories, your daughter tends to make up some whoppers. Just yesterday while I was talking sternly to Tommy Johson and shaking my finger at him, he started screaming and ran from the room. When I finally caught him, he told me Aradia told him and the rest of the class that the last time I shook my finger at someone, they caught the chicken pox. I explained to him that the Sally Jones incident was just a coincidence, and that things like that don't really happen.

One of the strangest things that happened was when I asked the children to bring in Halloween decorations for the classroom. Aradia brought in salt, incense, and her family album. I see she has quite a sense of humour.

One of Aradia's worst habits is that she is very argumentative. We were discussing what the Golden Rule was (Do Unto Others as you would have them Do Unto You), she firmly disagreed with me and stated that it was "Do As you Will, but Harm None" and she will not stop saying "So Mote It Be" after she reads aloud in class. I try to correct her on these matters and she got very angry. She pointed her finger at me and mumbled something under her breath.

In closing, Mr. and Mrs. Thomas, I would like to set up a parent/teacher conference with you sometime next week to discuss these matters. I would like to see you sooner, but I have developed an irritating rash that I am quite worried about.

With deep concerns,
Mrs. Livingston

P.S. Blessed Be. I understand this is a greeting or closing from your country that your daughter informs me is polite and correct