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Cool, yeah, but be careful, train with the help of an instructor, I've heard of people becoming paraplegic from trying these tricks. It looks like capoeira mixed with some extreme moves, I can only make the high spin kick on the ground, not jumping, but I've seen some capoeiristas doing that and it's crazy.

AstralVibe, I saw the whole documentary you've posted, it was very informative and interesting.

I have no experience with drugs of any kind, really don't think I should because I have profound astral projections, regularly, and drugs could wreck this emotional and psychological structure that I've build over the years, and that keeps me on my track while I walk on the other dimensions.

The problem I see with using a substance to aid you with this is that at first it could seem to be effective in reproducing the results you're willing to achieve, but in the long run, when you stop to truly analyze where you've gotten, you'll see you've gone nowhere, you're unable to operate without that little trick. So, in the end all that substance did for you was to cripple your skills, showing you something you're not ready to grasp.

Yup, most of the time I go through the normal sleep cycle 4 - 5 times before I A.P. Eventually something happens and I'm ejected from my body after the first stages of Non-Rem sleep.

Wow I was thinking about asking the same thing, I ended up using yahoo questions and didn't get the answers I was hoping for. I'll be sharing mine soon too, good idea psychonaut!

Hehe but I knew it was one of my posts, I couldn't resist replying to it now that I think I finally have an answer. I could be wrong though... 

Good to hear that rave_master, good luck in your endeavors!

Some things that helped me:

*Don't take lucidity too seriously, keep it at the back of your mind in case you need it and continue with the dreaming.

*Be discrete about it.

*Don't try to change the dream situation, adapt yourself to them.

*Do things your way, but remember - for the dream to go on you must keep on being active and responsive.

*Stabilize: read something, clap your hands and dance.

*Set a goal: if you're undecided then say goodbye to your dream. Find something to do and put your heart into it.

Could be, whatever she did, it worked.

There was this girl that I've know who always been chubby, and one day she said she was going to make a 'sympathy' (aka spell) to get thinner. I thought it was just a waste of time, maybe she should exercise or start a diet, but I didn't tell her that. Sympathies are very common here, girls use them to get a boyfriend, women use them to attract wealth, luck, happiness. Well, one week later I saw her and couldn't believe my eyes, unless she put a spell in my eyes lol she seemed to have lost over 20 pounds (10kg) in 7 days. It was unbelievable to me, I don't know how much weight a person can lose in seven days on a diet and exercise, but I'm sure she did neither.
I can discard liposuction too because at that time we didn't even hear about it, and she was 15.

I believe it can work, but how effective it will be will depend on your trust and constancy.

It sounds like you will be able to explore the astral dimension soon. From personal experience, I only had problems with 'entities' when I believed they would be out to get me. The moment I instructed myself more and learned that nothing could hurt me I felt like I was set free to enjoy my new found ability.

You shouldn't worry too much, as these insecurities are something you need to overcome if you want to go any further, and the things you describe are all pretty normal. Good luck!

I guess you just answered question 12 

They must have found a way to manifest here, etheric matter, lower vibration...  I just don't know how.

P.s.: wasn't your name catmeow?

[1 - Have you ever encountered more evolved beings?a:]

1 - Have you ever encountered more evolved beings?
a:  Possibly, they were interpreted as guides, helpers, sages and the like, some examples below:

*Looking to the sky through my bedroom's window I see the green mountains and the sun, distant, beautiful. I hear a song, 'indios' by Legião Urbana, but there's a woman singing it. It is such a great view, mixed with the sadness of the song, I crumble and cry. My emotions really get out of control and it feels like I'm gonna have a fit. Out from the sky I see rescuers coming down on ropes, I even help them land in my room. They seem kinda concerned, they encircle me, unexpectedly I wake up.

*As I fly over that fantastic city I feel like someone is guiding me, by my right side, but I can't see who. Like telepathy I receive informations from that person that is showing me the city. I simply understood, felt what was being presented to me. There was no doubt or conflict.

*Floating in my room I find this woman in a brown gown flying next to the wall. She hands me a seed to eat, it has a small metal at it's base, supposedly to hold it. I ask her what it is, but receive no reply.

1.1 - If so, describe the place: twilight zone, room, forests...
      what were they like: smily, serene, brief, strange
      what have you learned from them: Eventually I've received specific informations on things I've asked, but the feelings that were transmitted made more sense than the words spoken. I've learned about values, and to try to do things on my own instead of asking for help all the time.


2 - What have you found out about life on other planets?
a: Some of the things that I saw had me convinced about the existence of many sorts of life-forms on many different planets, however, some others seemed very dreamy and made me uncertain:

*I go to a dark planet where there are some small floating balls of light visible in the mist. I see no ground, it's probably down there somewhere, all I see is this strange atmosphere and the floating light-creatures. I receive the information that they get into the brains of the beings, but I'm not sure if there are other creatures there, or if these lights go to other planets. Approaching one of the dots, it get's into my brain. I hold one of them and it becomes a lightbulb. I'm not on that planet anymore, but in my room. The dots of light are in the room, and I grab one of them again. It electrocutes me badly.

*Flying towards other planets I see primitive barbarians. They sing in a strange language, could resemble latin. They all have arrows and lances.

*In deep trance I decide to ascend, and end up appearing on another planet. Then I go back down, and find myself underwater. There are thousands of bright dots, silvery coloured. I flow my hands through the liquid, it is denser than water. It is all very intense, I keep myself for a good while in that kind of 'temporary absence'.


3 - What was the most interesting conversation you had? What did you ask/say and hear?
a: *A tiger jumps in front of me and comes forward. Confident, I hold him by the neck and ask "What do you represent?", he takes some time, but answers in a low and strong tone "I am the voices of the demon inside of you!", "I've been inhabiting you for over a millennium!". Not believing him I make a challenge "What was my name a million years ago then?", he says "I don't know, and don't even care.". I demand him to say more, then he replies  "I've already said too much, and too little...". 


4 -  Describe 3 things/creatures that you saw there, but never saw here: There were different trees, and the leaves had strange shapes.  Sometimes the colours of the trees and lakes were so beautiful that I felt like eating/drinking the whole landscape. It's like the colours were not bounded by the shape of the things, they overflowed.

I also saw strange foods, one of them looked like a soft, green tree log, full of toothpicks, they told me it was called "cacuí", and it tasted like chicken.

Once I saw these colourful lightnings, red, purple, green rays during a storm.

On the plains I saw huge animals, some were familiar, horses, bulls, but there were some really big ones that resembled mammoths, but their heads were smaller and didn't have tusks nor trunk. There was a lady riding one of these huge animals.


5 - If you've been able to read, what did you read about? How many consecutive words do you remember?
a: Magazines of science, music, culture, animals, books of magic and religion, random texts on paper, stuff on tv.

Never remembered much more than 3 consecutive words. A funny one that I remember was the videoclip of a punk rock band, it was hard to understand what they were singing, and then appeared the name of the band on the tv 'Telamente of Telabranca', translation 'Mindscreen of Whitescreen'.

5.1 - Have you read words you haven't seen here before?
a: Many times. Once, when trying to figure out the name of a cd for an experiment, I received the word BABAEVI.
It wasn't the right name, but later I learned it is a turkish word for "father's home".

On a street sign I read the word Predoque, followed by 2 other words that I couldn't make out. After returning and researching I learned that Predoque is latin, and means 'robber'.

*In trance I see something that resembles a tv commercial, they are making a grape juice, it's called PARALACO, the water is extremely clean, the colour is amazing.

When trying to figure out a word for an experiment, I pick up a piece of paper out of the grass and read the word KAPUMA. Wake up right after reading it. Again, it wasn't the right word, but I learned that there's a place and a waterfall called Kapuma, it can also be the name of a person.

*Find myself stuck in a hypercube. Try to fly to the boundaries of that world, and ask about my quest. On a piece of paper that I hadn't even noticed I was holding starts to form a word, ALALAKARA

*Sinking deeper into the darkness of my vision, I exit to the middle of my room. With no hurry, I see a yellow box with a small drawing of a 'dragon?' written NOSSOSIS. I check both sides, but don't open it.


6 - Ever learned special tricks to be used there?
a: Yes, some very useful ones. In a lucid dream a person once told me to make the sound 'tssss' with my tongue in order to go through solid objects, and it worked! It kinda turned my body into a gas, which allowed me to walk through walls many times. I was really glad to hear that it worked for other people too.

Also during a lucid dream I was given the magic words 'hadaboojy' and 'booda jee' to blow away anything that was annoying. When I pronounced the word, a sudden wind came and grabbed the disturbing characters, and carried them away. One word is more powerful than the other, it's 'booda jee'.

Learned some interesting concepts, like how to use group of objects to increase the power of a magic. For instance, I'm there trying to make a table levitate, if my will is not enough to make it happen, or I'm feeling weak, I can make my will go through a chair, and then through a wardrobe, and then 'we' make the table fly.


7 - Ever received a solution to a problem?
a: The closest to this that I can remember was a prevention to a problem, it usually works that way with me. My sister and I would be going downtown on the next day, so that night I had a dream that we were walking in the center of the city, and I had to hold her arm very firmly so that she wouldn't get run over by a car. Disturbing dream, she's way older than me, why would she do something so stupid? I woke up in the next morning and we went there, and one time she wanted to cross the street right between the cars. There was no traffic light or platform for pedestrians, she was really going, and it was silly. If I didn't have that dream I probably would be going too, it was the easiest way, but then I stopped her and firmly said "No, we're crossing through the platform!". It was a little far from where we were, but surely safer and wiser.


8 - Describe the most amazing thing you saw:
There were so many things and places, most of the time they are not otherwordly things, but things that I've never seen so purely and clearly, like the water, the atmosphere, green landscapes, the sky, clouds and stars. Other times there have been colourful stars and galaxies, magnified microscopic organisms, pre-historic creatures, crazy fractals.

*On the meadow I see indians on bulls. They ride under the bright sky and with the wind in their faces, the whole visual is wondrous. I see a ladder that goes up to the sky, so I climb it up. Everything is extremely beautiful, I climb up and up, the sky is blue and surreal. At one point the ladder ends, and there's an iron bar, sort of a bridge to another part of the ladder, then it goes upward even further. I climb until I get in trance... then I fall a little, but get back. Now on another fantastic world I search for registers of my existence. There is no ground, no places, it's like I'm in the blue of the sky and have access to many things. Things seem to come my way as I wish to quench my thirst for information. I find many papers, full of things written in a strange language, I can't identify letters. See some numbers and occurrences, 1997, 2225, can't consciously find any meaning to them...


9 - Describe the most amazing thing you did:
*...running away from the dragon, I grab two people under my arms and escape flying towards the outer space, the Earth explodes. In some kind of deep trance I find myself creating a story in which the two don't survive the space travel, and then are sent to a spiritual realm that I often go for a visit. Over there I create many landscapes, heavenly fields, lagoons and bushes and flowers. I watch two lagoons side by side, imagine that one of them is for humans, and the other one is for animals. Sitting on the border of the lagoon for animals I wonder what kind of fishes would be nice to have there... I just sit meditating and imagine it would be good to have sea lions, then they appear making their sounds. I imagine a gorilla and a large sea lion walking out of the water, and so they do it. I'm still sitting with my feet on the water, and wonder what it would be like to meet Bruce Lee over there, but I can't recreate him very perfectly. He's way too small and doesn't look like Bruce Lee. I greet him, then go for a walk. There's a girl dressed as a princess, I touch her face and smile. I notice that I can't create hapinness, there is an apparent harmony, but the people look gloomy and disappointed with one another. I go through two gates and keep watching every detail of my creation of paradise. On the last gate I create some green hills with short grass and flowers, lots of beauty. The sky is cloudy, but I can still see a bit of blue. I raise my emotions so that I can appreciate better, and this makes me unstable while I fly over this environment, so I end up losing it and returning.


10 - Describe your most amazing validation: I've conduced many experiments in order to try to validate my experiences, to have an idea of how far I could go, and know how much information I could access while out of body. Though the results that I've gotten weren't quite what I was expecting, they never failed to surprise me.

When I first started my aim was to move a physical object while on the astral, that would surely convince me that I was indeed outside.
I was never able to make it move, but was having 3 - 4 experiences everynight, I could see myself in my room very clearly, under the exact same conditions, no dreams could repeat themselves in such a stubborn and constant manner, not even if I really wanted. I've always been very good at dreaming, so I knew this was something totally different.

Since I couldn't move physical objects, maybe I could go for specific informations. I asked friends to write words on paper, or put a cd on a table, and I would try to figure out.
Instead of reading the right words, I read things that I've never seen before, words that I had no idea what they meant, but later, to my astonishment, found out that some of these words really existed, and belonged to languages I've never had contact with.

So, what's with these strange words? Maybe I will try to figure out something about a person that I don't know. I concentrated on a friend I had been talking to from Usa, and suddenly I appeared in a corridor. I saw many rooms, and in one of them I found him writing something. I invited him to go outside and levitate. When we were outside he was with a friend, a tall, thin black guy, with very short hair. I levitated first and asked them both to do the same, they did, and I had to go now.
The experience went on, I flew to some other place and had a great wacky time. After waking up I emailed him telling of what I saw, and he replied the next day, saying that he was writing lyrics that day with his only black friend, who is tall, thin, and has very short hair, but the place that I saw didn't match at all.
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I guess this one is my most impressive validation, there have been many others, some more subtle, some that blew me away, and some that probably escape me for lack of attention and understanding.


11 - Ever had your astral body malformed or defective? What was it like?
a: Wish I hadn't, it's very weird and boring. I've experienced some problems with my vision, like there was something over my eyes that I tried pull off but couldn't, and also some physical abnormalities:

*On my left hand there were only my thumb and the index finger, I try to make the third finger appear, but it comes out in reduced size.

*Some conflicts going on, I'm crippled, the worst thing is not to be like this, but to really believe that I am, and to accept this situation.

*There's an image stuck in my vision, I command the image to dissolve itself, and it does, but my hands are attached together. The left hand holds tight to the right hand, which is now very small. I can't pull them apart, I feel my tendon hurt.


13 - Describe the 3 strangest sentences you heard:
*In trance I received a phone call, it was my friend saying "Leandro, I'm going to call you, and you send me a message, ok you a**hole." 

*I begin to ask many questions, then her face and body start to transform, it won't keep any constant shape for too long, then I feel I might be waking up, so I ask her to hold my arm. It works, I ask her if there is life after death, to what she says "Yes, and psychoanalysis.".

*I hear this song that I suppose it's called "Earth on Habit", because the chorus goes like "You gotta keep the Earth on habit, you gotta keep the earth on habit..." 


14 - Describe 3 things that you still want to try in the astral:
*Listen to ancient songs
*Visit and communicate with people on other planets
*Become fearless in exploring the aquatic world


12 - What interesting things have you found out about the Universe?
a: I've found out about the other places and possibilities of existence under a myriad of distinct forms. To be part of this creation is a valuable, unique oportunity.

There are some interesting concepts that I received and, though they can't be validated, they seemed unquestionable while I was there:

*It's history class, the teacher explains that the lightnings from the clouds are like letters, and that's how the Earth communicates with the other planets.

*Teacher talks about electrons, their shape is like a spiral, resembling the number 6 with some other 6's atop. They are not all the same, one of them is like a small circle with a line inside.

*I am taught that there are going to be two great cycles of life on Earth that will last millions of years each one. I see pictures of the planet, surface and environments, they look nice.


15 - If you believe in a God, what clues have you gotten about it's existence?
a: This question was more of a provocation, of course, to a believer, their every breath should be the confirmation of a tremendous, active, conscious power. Anything besides that is extraordinary wild perception. Therefore, yes, everytime I find myself consciously living in a non-physical dimension I'm reassured of the undescribable nature of the Creation, and that is all part of God's art.


16 - Ever been lectured on the process of Creation?
a: I picture God as a volcano expelling minds full of wishes and curiosities, and these minds, as they reach different levels of understanding, are able to take a more active part in creating the realities and their grounds.

There have been times when I found myself being lectured on certain things, there were visuals, graphics with numbers, sensations, and even a voice or thought explaining things to me:

*Some place underground, many trees withstanding a progressively warmer climate, and then on a certain season the temperature decreases drastically, it even snows.

*A guiding voice speaks of the neanderthals and the appearing of the human race. It says we're not all descendants of a single type of pre-historic men, we're hybrids.

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Thanks to everyone that has replied so far, and thanks in advance to those that are still to reply, this is going great. It is a real good time reading all your accounts, and there are still people that I wish to see participating in this.

This has been helping me process and evaluate my experiences a great deal. As I read my diaries and try to classify the stories I'm able to draw a clearer picture of my progress. To answer these questions is proving to be a valuable procedure to all those that seek the self-development. Our experiences appear to be like an unpolished stone, and in order to really understand and appreciate what is going on we must apply an objective scheme of analysis. I truly hope this is helping you as much as it is helping me.

I am a man who walks alone, and when I'm walking in a dark road at night, or strolling through the park...

My mother is too afraid of the dark, I am no longer afraid, your fear will pass, there are more serious stuff to be afraid of these days   

This is a questionnaire to help put together some of the most interesting achievements people had with Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming. Anyone is free and very welcome to answer the questions, though the aim is to provide data received through direct experience.


1 - Have you ever encountered more evolved beings?
a:

1.1 - If so, describe the place:
       what were they like:
       what have you learned from them:


2 - What have you found out about life on other planets?
a:

3 - What was the most interesting conversation you had? What did you ask/say and hear?
a:

4 -  Describe 3 things/creatures that you saw there, but never saw here:


5 - If you've been able to read, what did you read about? How many consecutive words do you remember?
a:

5.1 - Have you read words you haven't seen here before?
a:

6 - Ever learned special tricks to be used there?
a:

7 - Ever received a solution to a problem?
a:

8 - Describe the most amazing thing you saw:


9 - Describe the most amazing thing you did:


10 - Describe your most amazing validation:


11 - Ever had your astral body malformed or defective? What was it like?
a:

13 - Describe the 3 strangest sentences you heard:


14 - Describe 3 things that you still want to try in the astral:


12 - What interesting things have you found out about the Universe?
a:

15 - If you believe in a God, what clues have you gotten about it's existence?
a:

16 - Ever been lectured on the process of Creation?
a:


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Please, copy and paste the questions followed by your answers. It's not necessary to answer all the questions, but try your best. Also, you don't have to describe 3 things if you can only remember one. I will answer them too, looking forward to hearing from you all!

If we receive a good amount of answers we can make this a Sticky Topic, available for easy research.

sushil yadav, you sound exactly like I did some 6 years ago, and I also heard the same things you're hearing now. It's not that I stopped believing, or even conformed, no, but I learned that the message goes to everyone or no one. No one is happy with the abuse of the resources and the contamination of the environment, but euphoric words won't change the course of things. The best you can do is become a living example for the others, and hopefully they will follow, but even if they don't, know in your mind that you're doing the best that you can, and that's the most you can wish for. You're really not alone in this.

Nay, you remind me of the italian singer Cecilia Bartoli :

Indeed! I'm gonna try that regression thing as soon as possible, without shrooms though 

Fantastic! 

Hmm, I don't know, emotionally I guess, I used to be unstable till not so long ago. It's something that has changed for better, matured in a way. It would have been helpful if I kept a diary of my waking life too, would let me see the whole picture clearer, but that would be too much.

Like me. Venture to far down the rabbit hole and thought needs to be abandoned.
-AM

Yes! You're part of this too, don't try to sneak away 

To make things a little stranger, that day when I posted my experience I was reading other people's stories, and I read an experience by knightlight that reminded me of my own. He said he saw mirrors, 2 selves, and a funeral with a famous person. I replied to him and said I'd be posting mine too.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=22318.0

Absolutely 

Never used them, read some posts on this before only.

It might have been myself, I made this experiment to see if I could move the object across the sheet of paper, and was able to move only the astral counterpart, never the physical. 

No idea how many members we had here, but I did dig some fascinating discussions.

LoL! yeah, but I posted that one long ago, I guess it was my first post here, over 4 years ago, I was obsessed with this thing.

No one's ever replied, until today hahaha 

Hmm, not sure I can help you, maybe you should accept the laws of nature and move physical objects using the physical body, and astral objects using the astral body.