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Nightwolf,
I regularly visit worlditc and its my favorite, the only site which makes sense. I'll contact them if I need, its too early for me now.

Inguma,
The keyboard idea is cool. Sensitivity is not an issue. Amps that can amplify the signal thousands of times with decent s/n ratio are now cheaply available in a single IC. You can pick up very faint signals easily. The problem is here ---

Then leave it running with a big sign saying "spirit keyboard please use!" or something next to it.  

Here we are assuming that our signals (The sign board) are being read by them . Next we are assuming that they will 'see' the keyboard. On top of that we are assuming that they can manipulate the keyboard states (use it). The truth is, all of these is very unlikely, except when the spirit is exceptionally gifted and powerful. But then he wont require the keyboard, he can just appear or speak to us ! You can refer to the topic below, where I tried to explain the problem in detail -
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17503

The communication will never be effective if its only one way. Its first necessary to establish a protocol with spirits. Its necessary to know what are the things in physical which they can easily manipulate, so that we see the effects here. Similarly, we need to know what we need to do to send a signal directly to astral which they can detect easily. After which we can establish a protocol which both parties can follow.

Before that happens, we need a off-channel talk with someone non-physical who is also willing to create such interface and can experiment out there. Unfortunately I have no access to any such spirits. It will surely require special abilities to communicate initially. And given that I don't know anyone who can communicate with spirits effectively, I'm myself trying to learn to project and meet the interested parties in astral.

So, you can guess that its going to take some time and effort to finally  send my first 'Hello Astral !' signal.

The amazing Russian X-Ray Girl has proved it again.

http://en.rian.ru/society/20050419/39705477.html

Abyss,
Those were really good suggestions. In fact I've tried some of them in past, except going again through walls or doors. Which I think may work. Looking at my hands helped me a few times. But my brain usually recognizes the 'trick' I'm playing and 'corrects' it....

I faced a strange problem of getting 'fake' results. That is, it still remains a dream, only that it becomes somewhat clear. But soon I can realize that the situation is same. The obe lasts upto 1-2 mins, so its very difficult to gain control.

When you fell into the dream state were you still lucid or did you just become wrapped up in the 'scenario' like in a regular dream?

I was lucid, I could recite the name of the person I wanted to visit, and was wondering whats going wrong. Too much confusion and I woke up. So it was not a regular dream.

I feel that it has to do with certain conditions in brain. Obe happens when we are crossing through the boundary of normal waking state and sleep. As the obe progresses the brain proceeds towards sleep in usual manner. Which is perceived as gradual loss of lucidity. So I guess I must do something which delays this habitual 'descending into unconsciousness' of the brain.

No reply from them.
Perhaps they are thinking I'm one of those new-age weirdos

I don't think its possible to comment without listening to it. What class of recording you got?

That sounds great but why would we want to stick around this dump that long  

There ! you have a point. Exactly...
Right now we dont have a control, we are born and get stuck. Its like you hire a car to go somewhere but get stuck inside it, and cant come out till the car itself breaks down. Even if the car is made of gold, this sucks.

If the fiction of factories of bodies comes true, and we can leave and enter the body as and when we wish, we can return here anytime. Just hire a body after 500 years again and take a look around, live and enjoy if you find it cool, and if its still a mess, swipe your card and move on.  

With that aside, immortality comes with a heavy price.  Such as making a pact with a demon, or selling your soul.

   Where did you learn such things?

There is no natural law which says that death is a necessity. Its a technological problem to be solved. Death is a result of accumulation of errors during DNA replications which happen as cells divide.

In not very distant future average humans will be able to live 300 years or so, which I think is long enough for you to do everything you always wanted to do. But there are still things such as diseases and accidents.

The permanent solution that I can think of is to grow bodies in factories and simply transfer your consciousness to a ready made body by leaving the old one, if it gets old or damaged or if you get bored of it.  

Blank,
Flying dreams are a good indication that you are close.
Dont count anything as obe, if the transition from waking to obe and obe to waking was not seamless.

Last evening I had a dual obe. Felt kinda sleep deprived, so went to sleep 19-00 hrs as soon as I got the opportunity for it. Now it happens that when I want to sleep badly, I become ultra sensitive to sounds and even a pin drop feels like a huge distraction. So I put on my mouldable ear-plugs.

It must have been only 2-3 min, and I was already deep, and thanks to the earplugs, all the internal sounds were loud and crisp. I heard the usual 'bang' twice [those who know it will understand], it sounded like a metal sheet tearing apart...   .

Well that was too loud a separation to manage, so I got back with a jerk, full awake. Then again drifted off to sleep. Somehow after some time, I was semiconscious and I felt myself loose in my body. I got hold of my state and started rocking slowly, and increased the amplitude, as it gained momentum like a swing and quickly was out.

I felt the bed and the chair as I moved away from my bed. I gained some visuals when I neared window. It was night with all my neighboring buildings lit up with lights. So far so good, but as soon as I was out of the window I started floating like a feather, or felt so. The environment changed to something else. It quickly faded to some dream about me trying to go some place.

The second obe came without any attempt. Just rolled out from the other side of the bed (just for a change ), when I found myself loose again. This one also became a boring dream. I woke up and had my dinner and went to bed again. The dreams that followed were crisp and kinda 'novel' compared to the usual subconscious vomit.

What I have seen is that whenever I try to cross something , like a window or a door..... I enter a dreamscape. Where I lose control. Is there anyway to keep the consistency and still move far away from the body?

But next time I'm going to stay in my room and just see what happens.

Hi J.hicks,

I'm sorry I was somewhat sarcastic in my previous post. But no hard feelings here. Because your mail gave an impression of yet another 'make money by spiritual power' scam.

I'm personally not against the idea of making money through such abilities, as long as one doesn't ask for others hard earned money. Its unfortunate that people use others for such purpose.

I advise you assure a money-back scheme or something like that. And best of luck in your endeavor.

Whos this guy? and what can he do?
Did he just launched his 'product' or what. With a free offer for early birds?

So, why doesn't he manifest some money for himself and do it free for us poor chaps.

Even if nothing happens, we'd come to know why the hell timeline stops there...... (McKenna's)

Or somebody will find out a silly mistake in his calculations ?  And perhaps extend the timeline to 3013 or 4014

Some tricks are here -
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18297

Ben,
I acknowledge your answer. Right now I can't say whether whatever views I hold are true, its all a theory. So I will let the time decide, while I sit here on the fence

Or ride the wives.......

Now thats fun, only if their husbands dont mind  

Anyway, why see only the bright side? Imagine the constant fear of being eaten and the day long hunt for a piece of meat. Is there any specific reason for you choosing the creatures on the top of food chain? However I dont deny that pleasure and pain exist together. The point is that this system of pleasure and pain has its merits and demerits, and we dont have any other option but to evolve through it. Once you realise that these things are controlling you every second, it becomes sort of annoying, IMO.

I mean think about it, if we remembered our past lives we would make NO progress as a species

Well, I thought about it, but I dont see it. Just think about your school, what would be your condition if you forget completely the things you learnt in the past standard, as soon as you enter the next standard ?

This is the only thing that bothers me about reincarnation, otherwise its a good enough theory. So my only guess is, they clear the past knowledge so that you don't escape this prison, sounds bad

Its more or less the same thing. But it comes in the category of acquired habits rather than natural programs. (E.g. drugs, smoking etc). There is nothing wrong in it, as long as it is used as valve, to release the desire so that one can concentrate on important things.

Its very easy to acquire because its so convenient, and there are not many deterrents here.

If you find yourself in this loop, the practical thing to do is to find an alternative way of fulfilling the need. Like finding a partner or to go for paid sex. Or practice all the three together. Once you have so many alternatives, this loop will become weak, divide and conquer.

When you feel that the program is getting weaker, try to eliminate it. Next, try the usual abstaining from sex, the hassle of maintaining a partner and the worry of maintaining your bank balance will help you

Again, my opinion is that one should not try to repress it. Only see it.....and become your own master.

sloof,
can you elaborate ?

Pain and pleasure, reward and punishment..... can be very effective methods of trianing, as we all know. (For the less evolved).
I feel that its only natural that we find ourselves in such a system. Perhaps the next level in this game will be driven by a hunger for knowledge, desire to create, curiosity and enjoyment.

CaCoDeMoN,
I can see what you mean. I hold the view that we are only capable of one emotion - pleasure, at the highest level. The other emotions, including the negative emotions that we experience are 'colors' of it. From the perspective of a 'higher me', they are all same -- i.e a kind of enjoyment.

I feel that fasting is the most effective and easiest method to break away from the primitive programs running inside our brains. Not that these programs are unnecessary, but we tend to overuse them, to the extent that they halt our spiritual development.

Once you have reached a level of material development, when you need not worry about food and other basic instincts anymore, and you have ample to survive, you must start the next level. But habitually we continue in the same loop of eating, excreting and sleeping. Fast can break you out of this.

It will let you see the mechanical programs running and ruling you. Now you take charge of them and realize your next level. So its has more to do with mind, less with body, although you may get the obvious side effects - good or bad.

The trick is to defeat your program to eat, not to eat when the food is in front of you. And to eat only when you wish to, not when you are forced to, by the program.

The next step is to defeat the program of collecting wealth, even when you have more than sufficient. It's an outgrown version of our primitive instinct to collect supplies for the bad season ahead.

Next and most difficult is to control the urge of mating. Abstaining from sex is a kind of fast that can become a huge challenge. Its not giving up sex, but to see your own actions, when you are driven by this powerful program. You'll be highly surprised, try it !

No reply from the gct guys yet. Barry's site is extensive and I'm still reading it on and off. Lot of info really.

Do you think there is anything wrong with talking to yourself?

Nothing wrong at all
As long as you dont do it aloud displaying all the emotions and actions in public
Most of us do it all day long.

Nightwolf,
Many thanks to you for that link. Its good to know that scientists are taking it so seriously. Btw I sent him an Email asking some questions and his views about the subject here. I'll post his reply here if possible.

From your email id, I guess that you are also involved in this stuff. Am I right? Then let us know whats it about.
And who is Berry?

It would be very difficult to find such substances, but I'll keep you updated on any progress. I should look for natural sources. Perhaps plants or insects can act as transducers too. I heard that plants respond to thoughts and it can be measured by some meter. Must be something to do with ormus.

So I need to setup the plant, astral project there and try to get a reading. Thats a lot of work

Well, even I thought its a paper book. I want to read it however, seems interesting.

Now how's he going to manage the copying issues ?? Is this book "Email protected" or something?

Yes, thats possible. You can have it in days if you are lucky.
But it will take a long time and dedication to carry out useful experiments with it.

These days you need lots of money to prove anything.

i want anyone to post a picture or video that PROVES that they can do what they say...

I can prove you better things. Here you go -
http://www.worth1000.com/cache/gallery/contestcache.asp?contest_id=5463&display=photoshop