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#326
Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / mimosa
May 05, 2005, 08:59:07
QuoteMimosa rootbark is VERY VERY VERY strong, it WILL kick your butt through several dimensions. Psychedelic bravado is not in order with this substance. This is no toy psychedelic, this is the Real Thing. Do not assume that just because you can eat a quarter sheet of acid and cope that you can handle ayahuasca. You can't handle ayahuasca. IT handles YOU. Use her with respect, and she can show you things you cant see any other way. Use her unwisely, and she will tear you apart and teach you respect.

from http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=5694

this stuff grows everywhere, mostly the sides of highways...but i wouldn't suggest using it due to the fossil fuel residues (even though the bark is what is consumed). i've made tea with the berries before, but as a kid i was always told the rest of the tree/plant was highly poisonous. AYAHUASCA is the trip i'm wanting to take someday in my shaman fantasy/vision quest thing. not ready yet...some loose ends to straighten out first. i've been close to this experience, and i would not suggest it in anyway if you are not in a comfortable headspace with yourself. this is major therapy s**t...a lifetime of bootcamp packed in a 6 hour session.
#327
Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / Drugs
May 05, 2005, 08:16:09
COFFEE is a weakness for me, and it's funny because minus the few bad trips i've have had from certain drugs...i've found caffeine to effect me most adversely in the astral. when i was younger i could easily drink a few pots of coffee a day. i attributed it to being Canadian  :wink: , but i guess i had a "problem". i've since traded in two pots for a pack (cigs)...mixing it up a little. (and YES...never start smoking!) anyway i seem to have my worst attacks if i drink coffee just before going to bed. not sure why that would be of any importance...i guess bcuz we were talking about the effect of drugs on the astral experience.

once again...
Q: no one with mushroom experience?

http://www.rickstrassman.com/dmt/chaptersummaries.html#Society
clinical dmt studies (fairly interesting in regards to penal gland).

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/psychoactives.shtml
great site

http://www.drugwar.com/caddenexperience.shtm
MUST READ---opening the doors of perception/1st trip in the 1st person.
The Experience- Ayahuasca
&
http://www.jamesarthur.net/about.html
JAMES ARTHUR**** ADVICE FROM THE MOST EXPERIENCED
#328
Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / Drugs
May 04, 2005, 20:31:12
they've also started the heroin program in B.C. as well, not sure if it's helping or not (yet). as i mentioned i grew up around a lot of drugs, which is why i don't have any hang up's per say. i've tried a good deal, but i never once thought about making a career out of it. some people have a highly addictive nature...i suppose they have to control themselves in all aspects of life.
i see where there's a problem keeping things taboo/illegal. it's too bad really, bcuz i believe that it's all being used for very black op type control and manipulation projects. there's no other reason why marijuana shouldn't be legalized. it's less dangerous than alcohol, less detrimental, and leads to less aggressive behavior. people like to call it a gateway drug, but i don't agree with that speculation.

There having a free "StreamLink" weekend at coasttocoastam.com!
I urge everyone to spend the entire weekend listening to the achieved shows!!! I'm a dedicated listener of four years, and the best show yet has been Black Budgets & Money Trails (Monday. April 4th) AN ABSOLUTE MUST LISTEN!!!  

Go to c2c and check out the "past shows" link (top left)...there's a host of excellent interviews (ie. Messages from the Masters/UFO Roundtable (w/ Linda Moulton Howe, Grant Cameron, Bruce Maccabee, and Bob Wood)/
Psychic Dreamers/Astral Projection Techniques (w/ROBERT BRUCE)/
Underground & Undersea Bases & for my special friend Titanic: Myth & Fact  :wink: and that's only about 10% of the selection over the last few months that you can tune into. You can also download to h/d,disc & mp3.
#329
QuoteSo you are saying they were geniuses as a result of using drugs? Or they were already geniuses who chose to use drugs? There's a diffference.

Let's run with the redundant thing......shall we?!?
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OH WISE ONE?

challenge: can you respond without making it black & white???

taunt, taunt
:lol:
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#330
Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / blather
May 04, 2005, 11:43:57
QuoteCertainly drugs will get you there but for many the drugs do get out of hand. Not because of the drugs themselves, but because they are used recklessly.

When aren't humans reckless???

The word "drug" is funny to me, most likely one of the poorest defined words in the dictionary. Take a mushroom for instance...completely harmless unto itself. Where did come from? Why is it there? It isn't bad, or evil, or powerful in anyway, shape or form. It just is. Something within our chemical make up and the mushrooms chemical make up meld. It awakens something in us. This cannot be defined, defended or dismissed.  Every single plant has some magic to it, some medicinal quality in reaction to our physical bodies. I defend all plants! I would never think to separate the good from the bad...what is that function???
We are already connected to a higher consciousness that is rightfully ours...though we are currently hanging on by a thread...there is talk of coming round full circle in regards to the 2012 shift.

What is being discussed here has nothing at all to do with drugs. It has to do soul-ly with the state of the human condition! People are really f**ked up, and what's the fun in discussing that? If we started talking about what we as humans should keep away from...I don't think the list would end. If we follow that line of thinking...the majority should avoid sex as well, anything with a sharp point, or anything that involves interaction whatsoever, bcuz humans understand so little (if anything) about cause and effect...where animals on the other hand we never cursed with the ability of contemplation.

What a tangled web we weave!
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#331
Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / P.S.
May 04, 2005, 11:16:02
What difference does it make if "I" said they were genius because of taking drugs, or they were geniuses that took drugs? REALLY?!?
I honor their work. Not because it's hip or trendy, not because it's the right thing to do.  If you notice there is a total lack of female genius throughout history, but that's a different gripe. Christ...I have a very strong reason to believe that the bible itself was written by some very heavy drug user's.
My opinions mean nothing!!!  They do not sum up who I am, and they definitely don't exist to define who you are...'nough said.

Always be grateful that there is more than ONE path.
Celebrate all the difference no matter how on point you think you are!

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:wink:
#332
Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / Drugs
May 04, 2005, 10:58:39
Babar started a thread
QuoteHas anybody tried using drugs as a means to attain the experiense like: ie Nitrous Oxide, dmt, Ketamine etc etc?
Good question, although the with hindsight it probably should have concluded with "how are the effects different when taking drugs vs. not taking drugs...then it would have left less room for speculation.

Minus BenK and myself...6 pages have been written by those who are NOT drug user's...(stating mostly the drastic downfalls, the poisonous attributes, and oh-so-typically winding up on the point  of illegality. (we all know these things)(we all know so damn much about everything...don't we). And may it be understood that I have a problem...not with any individuals right to live in whatever mindset they choose, nor to contemplate the things or worlds outside...but to ignorantly (sorry there is no other word) draw boxes around other people, and force that their (conditioned) view point, supported by the majority of "decent/upstanding/functional/law-abiding" citizens it the ONLY CORRECT function....but on to the free-diving issue...

What does the Titanic represent? A legend? A piece of our history that sleeps in the quiet depths of the ocean...longing to be discovered? What does the ocean represent? A world outside our normal function? A mystic playground full of unimaginable things? Something we are ultimately connected to that is as familiar as home? Astral Pulse would then be a place for those who have on summer vacation (in between important things of life) frolicked in it's refreshing, wet, and conductive glory. Is it not also a place for those that have ventured out further, and those who have yet to venture? Is there no space for the stories and experiences of those that HAVE BEEN THERE, and survived?!? I JUST HATE IT (AND I TRY NOT TO HATE ANYTHING). I CAN'T STAND DUALITY!!! I can't help myself when it ALWAYS has to be one side or the other. Drugs are okay/Drugs are evil. Submarine or free-dive...republican or democrat...teachers pet or drop out...fun loving whore, or frigid b*tch?
Oh, all the s**t that is MISSED in the middle!!!

Everything that society has taught us does NOTHING but WEAKEN us! Can't anyone SEE that??? So weak we feel ourselves to be that even someones point of view that does not conform with our own, must be smashed, and any light that might by chance lead us astray...must be immediately snuffed out. So weak that we fear a cigarette might kill us, a drink might bind us to the devil, a prostitute might deflower or purity, an insane freak might contaminate us somehow. There are still people in this world that believe that black people carry diseases that are contagious. Don't think that your beliefs are far from that mentality.

I was a vegetarian for ten years, and I mention this bcuz of some of the earlier posts where I caught an inkling of selfrightouseness in this area. It was a personal choice and path to explore for whatever reasons...but daily I was attacked for my beliefs (which at the time were strong and emotional)...It was bizarre how I felt people were waiting to POUNCE at every corner. On top of that I felt a need to constantly refine my direction...till I drove myself nuts over it. From vegetarian, to vegan, to raw-foodist...and the world that surrounded me appeared more vile and unhealthy then ever...the air, the water, the people. I went down that path as far as I could and things around me just got harder to deal with...bcuz I am an Empath...so...ultimately it can never be just about me. The things that are most miraculous about us as (and around us) have nothing to do with what we think. Every function from blinking to heart-beat, from breathing to digestion...happens on it's own. (even putting one foot down in front of the other)...
For some reason we put so much stock in our heads, in the conclusion of who we "think we are" and "what we SHOULD be doing", but who we think we are (in general) is a sad thing that has been force-fed, and what we think we should be doing is even further from the truth...and here we are stuck...and here we shall remain. Drugs are not the ANSWER, but unconventionally throughout time, they do/have offer/ed a glimpse outside the box.

Again I am cornered by a question with the pre-requisite of two answers.
QuoteSo you are saying they were geniuses as a result of using drugs? Or they were already geniuses who chose to use drugs? There's a difference.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh (long, exhausted sigh).

They're just genius! We are all genius! Tap into it however you want. There is however a massive structure that works against you...know this!
Everything established in this world is constructed to KEEP YOU FROM THAT GENIUS!!! KEEP YOU WEAK & WANTING! All of them are built with extreme subtlety. Some of these geniuses even helped (unknowingly) to pave the way.

Brilliance...some people wear sun glasses to cut down on the light, some people eat trash to keep themselves filtered from the energy, some people take "legitimate" drugs to try and keep themselves grounded, but we are all slipping off into the cosmos and no anchor is strong enough to hold us down. soon you will not need to take drugs to experience the most mind-bending trip you could ever imagine...i promise you that!

and this website and everyone's opinions will have never existed.

BenK what is your reason for drawing a line between poppy seeds and morning glory seeds? I'm not surprised you didn't like the DXM, when you think about the trip it took before it got to you...I can't see where it would be anywhere near pleasant.  There's a huge difference between smoking pot that's grown outside in the wonder of natural elements, and pot that's grown in a closet under artificial light with thrash music blaring 24-7. This knowledge is an important factor to anyone that's traveling the magic path of plants/chemicals.

No one around with any shrum experience? Just curious...

thanks to no_leaf_clover for the welcoming
:wink:

the Olsin twins, Eminem & Sponge Bob reference was to lighten the mood, and also as a bit of slight since I am assuming (i know...) that I am out numbered by a younger mentality here. I never implied they were genius, but...why the hell not?!?  

and I can't believe I forget my most favorite drug addict of all
LEWIS CARROLL!!! (all genius aside)
BLESS HIS BEAUTIFUL SOUL!

back @ ya
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#333
Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / Drugs
May 03, 2005, 19:51:23
i was thinking about posting something along these line, and figured i'd add it in on the end of this post...since all this has my panties in a "slight" twist. where to start?!?
 
Quotewhen in fact its the same nonsense as telling me not to use a car, because we have legs.
that made me "actually" LOL!!! and it's too true. i guess that would place BenK , no_leaf_clover,and I on the same team (sad there has to be sides...always).
QuoteWell prolonged usage of drugs is not good for the mind and health, as they create dependencies, and further harm normal functions. Many of the recreational drugs are potentially dangerous even in short use. Many also have what is called a "crash" phase, that is after temporary beneficial effects, there are rather unpleasant effects. So there is something inherently not good about drugs.
...i'm not going to bother arguing that point of view. the general population should NOT take drugs, bcuz they're too messed up, basically too "IRRESPONSIBLE", and in need of escapes. we've all heard the saying that "guns don't kill people...people do". well, DRUGS DON'T CREATE DEPENDENCY...PEOPLE DO.

I REALLY don't want to push buttons, but some of you guys make it so inviting...i can't help myself.  
Quotedrugs will never (hardly ever at any rate) yield any usable results. Just like free diving to the Titanic won't result in you actually getting there.
...tell that to Vincent Van Gogh, Edgar Allen Poe, Alister Crowley, Da Vinci, Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde, Walt Whitman,  Degas, Toulouse-Lautrec, Gauguin, Picasso, Andrew Jackson,Teddy Roosevelt, Ernest Hemingway, Jack London (not to mention the more current artists), and almost every GREAT mind in history!!! (of course very few people a have a true appreciation for sheer genius these days, but i'll add that the Olsin Twins, Eminem, and Sponge Bob Square Pants...all definite drug users!) P.S. submarine or freediving? aren't we forgetting the simple and efficient astral travel?!? This duality must end guys...if we're ever going to get out of the box.

Quoteit is probably impossible to create the chemicals that LSD creates in your brain on your own.
WE ARE ALL CHEMICAL COMPOUNDS. and yes...you ABSOLUTELY have everything within you to create LSD, DMT, DXM, and every other drug known to man...right inside your very own body. amazing!
QuoteWe are not really talking about DXM are we? We are talking about recreational drugs
...to some people DXM is a recreational drug, as is silver spray paint, rubber cement, and glade air freshner. lets not split hairs.
Quote
Blood pressure
Memory loss
Aggression and violence
Panic
Psychosis
Reduced cognition(as if it wasn't low enough already)
Confusion
Depression
Insomnia
Addiction
Severe anxiety/paranoia
Higher body temperature
Damage to brain cells and other parts of the brain and body
those are the same symptoms as everyday stress.
QuoteThe "problem" with drugs is they give people experiences they are not psychologically equipped to handle
ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!!
QuoteThe survey you mentioned is not a proper survey. Do you know of a more professional one with a wider sample.
you cannot trust ANY survey...there is always a directive.
QuoteSo someone in authority, that in turn depends on an assessment of the drugs by scientific bodies, has good reason to believe these drugs should be illegal.
you wouldn't believe me if i told who pushes the MOST/WORST/MOST ADDICTIVE drugs in the country!?!

whew! this might garner more posts than that "how to pick up a chick" thread! :wink: i'm not opposed to much of anything (expect child molesting, and male beastiality (female bestiality=pretty much ok with). generally i'd have to say that doing anything AGAINST someone elses WILL is BAD...maybe even EVIL?!? drugs definitely don't fit in here, unless your shoving a needle in someones arm, or using that date-rape drug. yes i use drugs. YES I'VE HAD A FEW BAD TRIPS (one that changed my life forever). funny thing is it wasn't the drugs. i've staved off a good while to get my head together, bcuz drugs for me tend to work as a magnifier of my reality/headspace. if i smoke pot and get "off" effects. i know that something is wrong in my waking life...i'm not working up to par, or i'm doing something against my nature, etc. if i smoke and enjoy it...i know everything is ok. i personally wouldn't prescribe the home lab s**t, but that's just me. there will come a point in time (which i am working towards) when i will take some BIGGER steps into the unknown. the fantasy involves a shaman, a jungle, and some major plants, but i'm unqualified to say any more. there will come a time when i'll have to meet those monsters again, if i'm ever going to break free/break out the other side. i will NOT do this without someone extremely PROFESSIONAL, and that isn't some dork in a white lab coat...that's some toothless wonder with a bone through their nose, and moss loincloth.

DATA STICK WITH YOUR CONVICTIONS & NEVER, EVER, EVER, TRY IT!!!
i know that a lot of my reply seemed directed at you, and that was not my intention. i complete RESPECT your perspective (and others) and where you are right now and where you may go. i sympathize with your childhood experiences...i suffered a lot of abuse as child as well. strange thing was my parents were hippies (i smoked my first joint when i was six) and everything seemed fun and easy and creative...till they stopped being hippies and feel back into the s**t...but that's not applicable here.

BENK...HAVE YOU TRIED ABSINTHE? I'VE BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN IT OF LATE...LOT OF THINGS POINTING ME IN THAT DIRECTION. THINKING ABOUT MAKING UP A BATCH. PERSONALLY I LIKE CHARTREUSE, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY TALES ABOUT THAT OR POPPY SEED TEA (SEEMS TO BE A BIG TREND OUT WEST). ANTIQUE DRUGS?!?   :wink:

I THINK YOU AND I ARE THE ONLY ONES POSTING THAT HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH A VARIETY OF HALLUCINOGENS...WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE OF THE "TRIPS" AND LESS OF THE "DEBATE"
(if possible) :roll:

sincerely y'alls BIG SISTER
333

p.s. i've mentioned this in another post, but...KEEP IT NATURAL! GROW OR WILDCRAFT YOUR OWN HERBS/PLANTS (drugs)...DO NOT TRUST ANYONE!!! (THIS IS FROM EXPERIENCE...TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE). AND NEVER, EVER, EVER DO DRUGS WITH A BUNCH OF STUPID YAHOOS, OR STRANGERS! ONLY WITH PEOPLE YOU LOVE AND TRUST THAT ARE ON THE SAME WAVE LENGTH...........................YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED :shock:
#334
i meant specifically news about the functionality "coding system", but yes there is a lot in the news if you pay attention to the small stuff. they've started implementing the "dashboard transponders" here (US) at the beginning of the year. they're being used for drive-thru fast food restaurants and gas stations as well as toll roads.  the "humane society" no longer allows adoptions of ANY pets unless they are implanted with the gps tracker chip ($25.00) each, and talk also of a new "national ID card" functioning as a drivers license and social security card in one...plus the AMERO. a counter part to the EURO that will include (of course) the territory from south america to canada.

i agree that things feel like they're behind (thank GOD & those beings that work to curb the dark force). still 2012 is a blink away, and i sense the agenda will be gaining momentum.

watching bush's address on t.v. LIVE as we speak. no point trying to make sense of it.

i really don't mean to step on toes, and i'm not own to pry anyone's eyelids open...but i started this thread bcuz everyone here has an interest in what's going on behind the curtain (i assume), and i do really sense an involvement by the secret agenda of the elite/illuminati/NWO/whatever you want to call THEM, and what we discuss here.

tonight on C2C...Richard Sauder (http://www.sauderzone.com/kt.htm)
Kundalini Tales & Mind Control Technology (??????)
:wink:
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#335
Welcome to Astral Chat! / OMG
April 28, 2005, 09:08:29
you guys had to go and do it...didn't you? you couldn't just go and check out the info (take it or leave it)......now we have "SIDES", and that will lead to???
some interesting, high-energy posts i'm sure...which is what this place is all about...so i guess it's a good thing "questioning what the ISSUE is". ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY..............................................ALWAYS! :wink:

i'm glad alexd & data got to this thread before me, bcuz i would have (am going to) made (make) a senseless mess out of it. (you guys said it well)...some people (most people) will not SEE a problem with this "micromanaging", and i never know what to say them. it stupefies me...even more people will never come across this post or the ICF site, bcuz they "really" don't want to know.

it would be F**KED up enough if it was a score of 100, but THIS IS A SCORE OF 5!!!  :shock:  i've been scored on many things in my life, and it was ALWAYS LACKING!  first is the label change from "dysfunctional" to "functional"...how many years have i been labeled dysfunctional, bcuz i'm sensitive to the excrement that i'm being force-fed.  how many times have people called me "co-dependent" when what i really asking for was to be self-sufficient and independent...this ICF system is drastically flawed, and completely un-necessary.  why can't we LEARN to leave well enough alone? there are children starving to death all over the place, and they're going to waste how much money putting this "surveillance/cataloging system" in place???  the point is also that it's covert...you'll never hear about it on evening news...it'll just quietly be implemented into place.

i have to recall all the insanity over this last presidential election, when the majority takes a DAY every four years to "get involved", make their "vote count"...laws are being passed everyday and we couldn't care less, and then six years down the line when it begins to effect our daily lives, or lively-hoods.. (duh)...we wonder how it happened. take FREE TRADE for instance. what really gets me is people that are ignorant enough to believe they have some sort of say so...a choice. what it's coming down to is either standing nicely in line waiting for your bio-chip & inoculation cocktail with your national ID card in hand, or living in caves.

i won't get into how the bushes, clintons, kerry-heinzes, shrivers and schwarnagger all belong to the same "grovey" club, but if it came down to ARNOLD or HILLARY.........who would you vote for???
(what's your favorite color? and who really cares?)
we might as well embrace the full mess of thing
CAVES ALL THE WAY!
     :wink:
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#336
Welcome to Astral Chat! / EPHEMERAL CR*P
April 26, 2005, 04:11:12
3:10 having a rough night, and not in a great mind set...have to do this to keep my self from wondering into the eerie places.  

something to do with the culling i suppose, and eugenics. i don't think it'll be enough to be rich or white, because i don't feel that/those groups are any more productive or useful.  

i listen to coast to coast am...pretty regularly, and one of the best shows (most informative)ever was with a woman by the name of Catherine Austin Fitts, that owns a company called the Solari Investment Group.  The show was called "Black Budgets & Money Trails".  Amazing stuff about the (not so) new faction of black government and the embezzling system they have legitimized for themselves.  I highly suggest the online membership to C2C!!!  At the beginning of the show George was talking about Maria Shribo (?) having died, and all the intensity that surrounded her last few weeks. (whenever a story hits mainstream media with that amount of focus & dedication (forget human interest)...i get suspicious. that's just the way i am. always peeking under the layers...or maybe making up layers to peek under (either way))...a guy called in to the show and said that they wouldn't keep her alive becuz of Mad Cow Disease. George was working to cut the crackpot off when he made a very intelligent point.  that the incubation cycle for Spongiform Disease is five to ten years, and that they are putting a law in place now...so they don't have to pay to keep a bunch of brain-dead people around.  
it was a simple connection, but it had weight.  

some major chess moves are beginning...i don't play chess, but i know it's all about strategy.  i always imagine that if two people are severely good at it...there's no point in playing...after the first move is made, you can predict with great certainty who's going to win. in the simplest form i think of it's like tic-tac-toe. i be live at one point in time there were great minds working on the outcome...people were willing to wait generations to play out one move. i think whoever "they" are...they've gotten off track in their greediness. now it's more about whoever moves fastest, and moves first.  i see a lot of men with their fingers on buttons and holding onto reigns that are entrenched in the deepest groove of the "me-me" mentality. i don't see these guys (and some very suspicious women behind them) willing to wait any longer.  

The World Health Organization, The United Nations, The World Bank, The Fed, etc...are run by the elite, secret members society.  This isn't small potatoes. (You have to listen to that interview with that Catherine chick!
if you only sign up for one month...it's well worth it...becuz you can listen to months worth of shows on streamlink, and download them to MP3).

i heard something on another interview a while back, where this guy was talking about people on antidepressant medication. that there was a list that was generated on everyone that was prescribed zoloft, paxil, etc... and that the government was going use that list (prior to marshall law) to round up all the guns in the country. that part of the patriot act covered this issue...of people that weren't mentally equipped to posses weapons.
(and then you've got all those concentration camps they've built!)

it's all very strange...i don't think they care anymore if we know about it.
i think, they think...it's funny. i think, they think...we're pathetic sheeple, and maybe they're right for the most part?!?  how can the population put so much energy towards a poor vegetative women that should be left in peace with some dignity...and not give a rats butt about the economy tanking, or the "incurable" Marburg haemorrhagic fever outbreak with it's 90% mortality rate (ebola was only 53-88%)!

they've got us looking in every direction, and we're missing the obvious.
i have no idea for sure what that is? those of us here @ AP have even more s**t to deal with...and that's just sad!!!  

i want to bring attention to things like this. i want to tell people to start building bunkers again...if for no other reason than to fair safely when all the people start to lose their f**king minds...and then...i wonder if it should be mentioned at all?!? that we all don't have enough to worry about already?

aaarrrrrrhhhhhhg. SPEW, SPEW, SPEW...and still 2 or 3 more hours till the sun comes up.  wonder what other posts i can senselessly ramble on over???    
:roll:
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#337
Welcome to Astral Chat! / have no idea?!?
April 25, 2005, 07:19:15
it's always nice to find people here that still have a sense of humor.
it's no joke (since i myself have lost mine & don't see where that would be funny)..."Check your IFC rating on-line" is though...very funny (lol), and scary s**t at the same time!!!  You get the basic jest of it, but reading the information (posted for health professionals only) on the site is a trip that has to be taken!  They even have a disclaimers that if any aspect of the site whatsoever is copied, reposted, distributed in any manner the person will be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law...yada, yada.

I have of course gone through therapy, med cocktails, wound up in the hospital once over a major anxiety attack, and been to a few groups...i never once felt anything intelligent in any of it...just more manipulated.  just monkey's in white coats, taking notes on other monkey's.  I have always believed that the psychiatric realm exists for no other reason than to gather information on "the effects of fear and anxiety on the human population".  

here is a another link (hope this one works)......"dance monkey dance"
(brilliant!)  http://www.stileproject.com/flash/dance2.html
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FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THE IFC SITE IS BACK UP & RUNNING
#338
Welcome to Astral Chat! / site down?!?!?!?!
April 24, 2005, 11:21:37
that's strange?!? the link is correct. they could be updating the site?
i urge you try again later...and let me know what you think.

you can also direct yourself to the site by going to who.org, clicking on "health topics", and the under "D"...click on Disabilities, then under "related sites" (top of list)... International Classification of Functioning, Disability and Health (ICF)

...but the site is still down for now.
:roll:

SORRY ABOUT THAT
THX FOR TAKING THE TIME TO EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THIS.

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#339
Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Speak to Me
April 23, 2005, 08:40:45
I've been following your posts at GOM. Mick was kind enough to invite me after I had one of my more "troubling" nights.  We share a lot in common.  MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU!  I'm pretty sure I've run the gambit/gauntlet of experiences where the darkest, most vile destruction is concerned...but were both here still talking about it...so something has to be said for that, and we still have our wits about us (though at time's barely intact).  I understand the feeding as well, the core-nibbling worms, the grotesque feeling of having something (large) slithering through your being is most distracting/disturbing, the neg attacks, the major rifts, the pouring out of energy, and the creatures that lurk in the shadows, salivating over the human race, starving, wanting and ready to pounce.  

It's been an everyday occurrence for me as well......for THIRTY years! (began when I was 6 and hasn't let up since, although it changes as I change, adapts and restructures itself as I do, but has never let up.) I'm exhausted in the sense of one person battling something much larger than this world, disheartened that so few, if any REALLY understand, and stuck between "why me", and "why not me".  I'd be interested in knowing your personal "heart-felt" thoughts that concern you ever thinking of yourself as "chosen"...or special.  Because I don't believe that anyone that goes through this with any common sense or intelligence can continue to only view it as black and white. Do you hold on to that?  The idea that there is a reason, a purpose, a position you're in that could ultimately be of great benefit?  Saying that a blind-man possesses more ability to "see" than those with sight, or a child holds more wisdom in it's words than any adult...is there something along those lines or do you consider yourself to be nothing more than a victim?

I hold a message that is impossible to convey to the masses.  Soon it will no longer be "us" FEW. The veil between the dimensions is decomposing rapidly as I speak, and what has been confined will soon be unleashed.  I think you are experiencing a major premonition on this that is manifesting itself physically in your being. The falling, the severing, the loss of heart, the infestation, attack, the ultimate control & demise of the human race is playing out in your being (as in mine)...and how do you prepare anyone for what is about to take place?!?  I feel at times that I'm the only one that exists (as a total representation of the people) that there's something I could do to save myself that would save everyone else in effect, but the time for that is coming to a close...and leaves me all the more anxious.  

What is it???  Why do we know about these things were others don't?  Why are some of the most profound humans, drooling all over themselves in infirmaries??? (God Forbid). If we can put ourselves aside for the moment...what are being shown??? Nothing has effected me that I haven't "allowed" to effect/infect me...and that's touchy subject matter where OUR functions are concerned....but wouldn't the reflection off the other side of the sword show this to be true?!? Are we not IN THE END BETTER people for it?  Better prepared?!? We are holding on!  We are strong beyond anything we could explain! We have not given in or given up!!! Yes there is a host of things that suck, and gnaw, and drain, and feed and deplete us down to the bare minimum, but do we not regain our power and hold strong?!?  Is not the "least" of us still enough to continue on? I know it is still enough to be of attraction where these things are concerned.  

The words..."give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day.  Teach him how to fish and he'll LIVE FOREVER"...keep circling through my mind as I write.    Are you not a fisherman?  Have you not dropped your line in the most devilish of waters....off the map in the land of monsters, and survived your catch?!? Survived the storms in a world that few would ever venture.  You have KNOWLEDGE of these things, and that prepares you far better than those that have NOT A CLUE!  Be strong Brother Mystic, and know that despite all your feelings..............................YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!

The time has come to let go of being ticked off.  Golden light rises on the horizon you will see everything as it truly is, and you will know "their" weaknesses because you have FELT them to your very core!!!

You have somehow in your journey fallen into a pit of snakes.  You have REACTED, scrambled, panicked, and cried out...but you know that you are the only one that can get yourself out.  You SEE the reality of your situation, you wish others to see it too...to empathize, to grasp the SCALE of what you are experiencing.  You feel them slither around you.  You have felt their venomous fangs sink into your flesh, and you have experienced the illness of their poison.  In the worst moments when you are weak and delusional...your spirit riseth out of the pit to hover over your trapped body.  It asks you, "Are the snakes real?  Does the pit exist? Are you INDEED trapped?"  Silly questions, but your mind is doing silly things...and you let it go.  You open your mind up because what else is there to do in your final hours than entertain the possibilities??!?  A moment later there is no pit, no snakes...
You're spirit has not left you...you will command these things!!! I promise!
 
I am here for you as well...if you need to unload,
or wish to share insight.

Humbly Yours
Sister Souljah333
#340
i think it's interesting that with my experience with the "exchange" place and no U.S. currency that existed (only Euros), and Ezekiel's with the U.S. as Germany, and Arnold on the move towards the "White" House, and Rat-zinger as Pope, and the strange Nazi stuff about Antarctica (Neu-Schwabenland) ...and the rise in popularity over Eugenics's?!?!?!

It'll be interesting to see what JULY has in store!

pondering
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#341
Welcome to Dreams! / For GypsyWander
April 22, 2005, 09:10:44
http://www.jamesarthur.net/about.html

i've included this link to James Arthur's website, and feel that it may be of interest in the direction you were inquiring about...sharing astral experiences with another.  I point you to the section on "recipes", but all his work is amazing.  It's not something I'd suggest normally, and I warn you highly to do a lot of research and meditating on all this before even entertaining the idea of delving into this medium.  

I consider myself to be quite experienced...spiritually, and even I'm not ready.  I would also urge you to google "raising kundalini", or better yet "kundalini & anxiety/panic attacks"...because this is what you'd be up against on the flip side.  Hallucinogens are the fast track to the realm of enlightenment, but ignorance and disregard can send one plummeting to the bottom levels of hell.  It must be approached with the utmost respect and with people (as i've stressed before) that you very much trust and hold dear!!!

If you experiment with drugs...please keep it as natural as possible, and most preferably...grow or wild-craft your own!!! I stress this because I was the victim of some "tainted pot" that caused a sudden awakening of my kundalini (which I was completely ignorant of at the time)...it caused a massive anxiety attack close to a near death experience that landed my butt in the hospital for several days, several weeks of intensive group therapy, and at least three years of living in complete fear of my life!!!
NOT something you want to toy with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm only pointing you in this direction for research, so that you might know your options...there is much work to do to ready oneself for this path!

sister333
#342
ya....the same thing with the two voids, but attached somehow.  it all starts as the same nothing blackness space...sometimes the small orbs appear that are like the ends of fiber-optic straws that can suck you into a multitude of....
...i don't know...parallel universes?  sometimes i see planets (mostly earth), sometimes galaxies, but on their own in the void...no atmosphere.  sometimes there's this soothing coolness that envelopes me, and that's when the water appears and i find myself in the ocean (?). in the beginning i found myself concerned with which direction i was heading, and the need to swim "upwards", not down...but it's impossible to sense direction because there's no gravity.  i have descended very far down on a few occasions and did not like what i found there. one time i entered some passage/tunnel that seemed to go on forever, with a long precession of human forms (all ghostly blue pale).  i remember one guy in particular who was a serial killer, and he led a group of young chained girls (all around ten or twelve) along with him.  When I tried to free them there was this sudden suction that began dragging me at high speed further and further down...towards the end of which was a large set of doors, and everything became slightly golden in color, and the entrance was covered in Egyptian hieroglyphs, and then the massive doorway turned into some horrific face with it's mouth wide like it intended to swallow me.  It was the one time (recently) that i remember not being able to wake myself up, and had to fight hard to swim against the current to get out.  

i will have to try aligning my sight because i get the same thing where it's like i can only see "half" or a portion of what's normal. it's frustrating. i never actually thought of it as a suit/mask before, but i absolutely feel that i am in another's body at times! they/I are usually in some desperate situation or trapped, and i don't allow myself to wake up until i/they are free.  this has become a major theme/job for me as late.

there were a few times early on that i would run/glide into others in this void, but they all seemed new to the travel and bewildered as such. they had no clue where they were, or what was going on.

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#343
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / thx
April 20, 2005, 16:32:50
I've always had that idea, of people going to where they "believed" they were going to...i didn't know it had a name.  I'm sorry I couldn't answer your question about Dulce.  I spend a great deal of time in complexes, and I believe I was the one that brought up the subject, but I can't name the places I've been...I've never thought to ask.  They're huge wherever they are.  I can attempt to give it a try, and p.m. you if I'm successful.  Lately though (the last week or so) I just seem to be floating through the void.  No sights, no sound...like a sensory-deprivation tank as large as forever...like swimming through absolute nothingness.  

last night i swam around for a good while till i encountered a glowing being off at a distance.  I followed, eventually catching up, and wound up in a tunnel that led to a complex off this world.  Typical ATM-type convenience equipment about, food courts, shops, docking bays, etc.  As soon as I arrived in this complex I was attacked by micro-machinery (fly like) that laced my entire body with that fine wire filament I've mentioned before (pain in the a-s-s) & painful...anyway. I was trying to get this security guard guy to help me, or direct me to a medical area.  He asked where I was from...I replied Earth, and he cried out loud, "Earthling!",  and everyone in the vicinity roared with laughter (?) There was one place I stopped at that exchanged money.  They had Euros there with Queen Elizabeth's face on them, but alien-like...with the typical large head, and huge black almond eyes?!?  I pulled an American bill out of my pocket, and the clerk went nuts over it...like it was rare.  I also handed over a "Loonie" (Canadian 1 dollar coin) and she responded the same.  She gave me a handful of the Euros and I went to the food court.  There was a lot of strange stuff I didn't recognize, but the most popular seemed to be an Asian "sweet" stand that sold those tapioca type drinks in neon colors, and an Italian place.  The clerks told me, "Everybody loves Italian food!"
Then I woke up.

I don't know why I posted all that?!?
Bored I guess  :roll:
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Usually I ask the date, but I will try and remember to ask the name of the facility from now on.
#344
James Arthur who I (and many others) believe to be the leading expert on "natural hallucinogens" as well as OBE's...(may his sweet soul (now bodiless) be soaring even further into the unknown as I speak)...said that the further "down" one goes...the further "up" one rises.  

I am flattered Major that have posted here, and you're point is well taken...but thirty some-odd years of attacks & battling, tugging, pulling, prying and exploration place me in a position to have a little fun "once in a while" (if not more so than that).

I have been encountering a lot of "kids" lately?!? which is tinkling me off to no end, because they function on some mass-hysteric level of ignorance that makes them impossible to deal with...I have more comments about the "kids", but will stave off for now. I feel compelled to express however that I am a WELL-seasoned traveler...not a child...in things outside this world.  I couldn't get stuck if I wanted!  

I don't remember what I said about being "tagged", unless it was in relation to "implants", and in that case...I feel that I've been tagged by "both" sides.  I am not one (however) to "willing accept without question the nature of my experiences"...far from that entirely.  I am highly conscious outside my body, but I have worked very hard on letting go of "reality" both in and out of this world. I broke my frame of mind open and although it sent me over the edge for a while...I am back now and the stronger for it.  I still have much to learn in placing "my self" aside, but the implants have nothing to do with this.  I have been involved in two distinct seeding projects, and to save on explanations...I will say in both the "light" and "dark" empires/good & evil...whatever you wish to call it?!?

At last count on the light side: 147 offspring, and on the dark: a needed number of 12. I am not privy to much information on this, just a "supplier" of sorts, but I have a notion that the implants are simply to keep track of my whereabouts, monitoring, etc.  It allows them to "pull me in" whenever they feel the need.  I do not consider the implants to be of a physical nature, but I am hoping that they may eventually serve as a link between myself and my "cosmic offspring".
I know that sounds out of this world......it is.

SKILLS: for Ezekiel

The Web Shot is my favorite, and used most often as I mentioned.  Most of my skills are simple hand gestures that allow me to be invisible, levitate, heal, etc. I don't do a lot to curtail what is happening around me.  As a Warrior I have outgrown the fighting, and moved deeper into the matrix...where (as I mentioned above) my situations have more to do with what is being "perceived".  I do a lot of manifestation, and willing to get myself from one place to another with what I need (which isn't much). Since I entered this "space" as a child I continue to become more and more "physically" passive in my "actions"...and more "thought-full"...it's hard to explain.  Very much The Way of the Jedi!!!  The Way of the Warrior!

There is no longer much use in conjuring up weapons and shields, when what I am surrounded by doesn't really exist in any form...if that makes sense?!?

So far it seems likes it's just the two of us that know the pure thrill and enjoyment of the web!!!  
:wink:
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P.S.  WHAT IS F3???
#345
http://www3.who.int/icf/icftemplate.cfm?myurl=homepage.html&mytitle=Home%20Page

ICF: International Classification of Functionality!!!

THIS IS A MUST READ (ABSOLUTELY).  SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE DESCRIBED. A DEVELOPMENT BY THE WHO TO RATE INDIVIDUAL "FUNCTION" ON A SCALE FROM 0-5, THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING IMPLEMENTED GLOBALLY BY PROFESSIONAL HEALTH PRACTITIONERS (YOUR DOCTOR).

CAVITIES/BALDNESS/DIGESTIVE DISORDERS/ALLERGIES/POOR COMPREHENSION SKILLS/DISREGARD FOR AUTHORITY/POOR HYGIENE/LESS THAN TWO BOWEL MOVEMENTS A DAY??? PAY YOUR TAXES ON TIME? SHOW UP TO WORK ON TIME? ANY SOCIAL ANXIETY??? KEEP YOUR HOUSE CLEAN???

I DIRECT YOU SPECIFICALLY TO THE "ICF CHECK LIST" (pdf.)
AT THE END OF WHICH LEAVES SPACE FOR "OTHER" FACTORS THAT CAN EFFECT FUNCTIONALITY SUCH AS...RACE/RELIGION & INCOME BRACKET!?!

NOW THIS "IS" SOME SCARY S**T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND I WOULD LIKE TO PASS THIS INFORMATION ON, SO IF WILLING...
PLEASE COPY LINK AND DISTRIBUTE TO ANYONE/EVERYONE, OTHER
FORUMS, ETC.

W--T--F?
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#346
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Member Poll (?)
April 20, 2005, 09:58:28
I wrote an incredibly LONG reply and trashed it just now, because what difference does it make?  I don't see any tractors in nature helping elephant and moose give birth.  I highly doubt that these "large calves" are a natural occurrence, and haven't been manipulated in some way. Still it is a terrible thing I'm sure, and another reason why we should leave well enough alone.

I will mention that in some cultures it has proved necessary in the past to have many children, for few survive to adulthood, and those that do are needed to care for their elders...and there are other places that breed out of ambition, and others still that breed out of ignorance and total disregard for themselves and the children the bring into this world.  I have no children/I am celibate and have been for eight years, so it could be easy for me to agree with you, but I can't.  I can't because I know of man's involvement in it ALL, and I know what man is prone to, and I see great fault in his finery and his ideals.  I know what seedy lengths people will go to to secure themselves riches, and I know in man's eyes we are all disposable.  So...what more is there to say???

Bless the Divine Feminine in all of us and pray that the answer comes either in a gentle, soft and loving manner...or with a swift and sudden hand.  Either way I feel we have overworked it all, and we are too far in the thick of things to see our way out safely, but nowhere do I stand-down to an elite government and allow them to decide my fate or future!!!

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#347
OMG!!!!
I can't believe that you mentioned the "WEB SHOT" thing?!?  I have avoided posting that skill, because I assumed...that others would "assume" that I was some kind of avid Spiddy buff that was implementing anothers talent.

THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT THE CASE!!!  
I do a lot of comic-book art, but in the vein of Robert Crumb...I was never into the Marvel scene, so I was taken back when the skill first appeared over ten years ago.  IT"S MY FAVORITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I use to spend a lot of time flying (which I still do on occasion), but I am most excellent at swinging through my travels.  It affords me much more flexibility, and is the best way to both ESCAPE & RESCUE others.  That sticky "web shot" is good for everything!  
I can't believe you mentioned that.  I love you for that!!!

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT IS SOMETHING FROM THIS WORLD, THAT I HAVE TAKEN INTO THE NEXT, AND I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW MANY OTHERS HAVE THIS ABILITY INHERENTLY. PERHAPS WE SHARE THE SAME ASTRAL DNA? LAST WEEK I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING UP CONTACT INFORMATION ON STAN LEE (CREATOR) TO WRITE AND ASK HIM IF HIS IDEAS FOR SPIDERMAN CAME FROM A DREAM, BUT I NEVER CARRIED IT THROUGH.

There is a definite similarity between the substances (web & wires).  At first I had a very difficult time separating myself from the web.  I went through the same ordeal in trying to manifest something to "cut" with, but little worked...I therefor by-passed the "physical" notion of "cutting" and worked along the lines of??? I guess it could be called "devaluating", where I let go of my focus, and ignore the fact that it's there.  If I make it an issue "it sticks" and if I let it go...I can release myself, and I am finding the same applies to the wires.  I am not one to give up in my travels and I will keep on till I achieve my goals.  Can't say the same for this world, but I'm linking up to my subconscious in that area...slowly.  

It was worth joining up to this forum just to see you use those words...web shot!!!  The butterflies sound interesting and will give it go, since I'm tired of cracking jaws! I would very much prefer to get on the same wave length as these dogs, and attempt to release them from whatever is utilizing them for the worst.  I have managed a few times to do some hands-on healing that has worked to pacify them, and they were incredibly grateful.

ALL MY SINCEREST THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT...TRULY/TRULY
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#348
Welcome to Astral Chat! / STUDENTS?!?
April 19, 2005, 10:02:58
TO THOSE REFERRING TO THEMSELVES AS "STUDENTS"...STUDENTS OF WHAT???  WE ARE ALL STUDENTS OF LIFE.  IF YOU ARE AN ACTUAL STUDENT PLEASE CONSIDER STATING YOUR MAJOR (INTEREST), OTHERWISE...WHAT DO YOU DO ALL DAY THAT SUPPLIES YOU A PAYCHECK?
#349
CaCoDeMoN: Thanks first for your input.  What you described IS "Eugenics", although the label here isn't important...you will find it ruffles feathers, and rightly so!  You're talking about some crazy s**t!!!  
I will assume you are a vegetarian/vegan...and as such a "humanitarian" (although your choice could purely be for health reasons)...the stereotypical's point you in the direction of thinking yourself higher up on the evolutionary food-chain.  I myself am nowhere near convinced of this, which leads back to your theory (in way).  I'm sure with a little more thought you would have to agree...that GETTING MORE INVOLVED will only degrade the situation further.  I glanced at your profile, because my immediate thought was "you had to be a guy"...but noticing that you live on a farm...makes all the more sense to me.  

I have to agree with Karnautrahl that hybrids have more severe, PHYSICAL hereditary problems in general, not to mention PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDERS.  There isn't a species on the planet that humans are not involved in destroying, saving or "MAINTAINING"!  We must learn to leave well-enough alone, or risk the BIG LESSON.  You say you are happy with this life/this world, but then you suggest drastic changes.  You might be very pleased to know that the ELITE are IN THE PROCESS of doing exactly what you recommend.  I unfortunately don't have the links to back it up, but google anything on "Withholding UN funding in return for MANDATORY STERILIZATION" and you should be satisfied with the results. PLUS a wealth of information on major funding in the EUGENICS realm!!!  

You may have opened a can of worms here, but I know a lot of people who consider themselves SUPERIOR, and I would much rather spend the rest of my life on an island populated with down-syndrome dwarfs, then be subjected to the arrogance of those that "believe" themselves fitter for this place than others.  

We have NO IDEA what "superior" ENTAILS!

What men garnish from nature is the age old adage of survival of the fittest, but take a longer look and nowhere will you find a herd, pride, flock, or gaggle entirely made up of ALPHAS!  It takes all kinds.  The end result of your thinking would be a competition based race that would destroy everything (including themselves) that didn't suit them (which is pretty much where we're at anyway), without the DNA to back it up.  

I'm not attacking you.  I know what your saying.  CONTROL is needed, but there is much bigger picture you're overlooking, and I have to say it bothers me, especially if you consider yourself a HEALER (and wish to become a better one)...why are there alcoholics?  why are there drug attacks? why are there so many people lost in pain???  Who are the PUSHERS??? Who supplies the escapes? Does the SYSTEM AT LARGE work to enlighten/release, or DEADEN & HOOK??? And why???
You will find that the richest people are those that can afford themselves all the healthcare in the world...and THAT is my problem with it...the line gets blurred because what is happening is not the FITTEST coming out on top, but the RICHEST!

I'm sure this discussion will continue...so I'll save some things for later.

If it wasn't for the Conspiracy Theorists...we wouldn't know half of what is really going on.  What makes your opinion more SANE???

If you do indeed live on a working farm, then the entire mentality that you are surrounded by supports "complete control".  That's where the practice of Eugenics and Hybridization stem from ORIGINALLY.  When we "chose" to settle in and MAKE THINGS WORK FOR US.  Implemented at first to provide MORE meat, more wool, more milk, larger eggs, and vegetables that could survive drought, pests, diseases, etc...yet very few farms exist anymore to support their own, or their communities (at least here in the U.S.) (but that's another issue)...I am a strong supporter of natural, bio-dynamic farming on a small scale, and I would love nothing more than to have a farm of my own, BUT...personally I feel we messed up when we walked out of the woods and began to settle and control.  
Oh bless the nomadic gene that I have all but forgotten to feed!!!
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#350
Welcome to Astral Chat! / virtual prize
April 17, 2005, 18:05:32
for the student: brilliant color, one of those astronaut pens, and a pound of blue mountain coffee.
8)
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