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With your visualising-do you actually get sensations of energy movement within the physical body?. All the solid energy training disciplines do intend for the practitioner to manipulate energy through the mindbody interaction-NOT just in their heads. Visualisation is usually intended to cause a sensation of moving energy-as that feedback is necessary.

Can you describe how you are attempting to make "ki flame" at all? If you can detail the method perhaps one of us will know more of what you are after and be able to give you some solid advice.

I've never heard of "ki flame" as a basic or advanced practice in any real energy training-unless it's a metaphor for something else?

In my case-In the past anyway, it could just be the family inherited manic depression .

I would be interested to learn more Ryu-Kanjin. I've been playing with "chi" since I was in my very early teens, but only in the last year have I had a "system" to work with as such. I know the feeling of balance you talk about, and also the sensation of there being more of "me" here after a full extensive session.
I've directed my ability to heal to several people at once before now but that's as far externally I've gone-except in attempted spellcasting work. The spellcasting worked for some of the recipients as it raised and wove energy to a degree.
Beyond feeling my own energy work to a high degree sometimes (sweating from the heat of it for one) I'm most psychically blind/deaf etc as the most psychic impression I can recall is occasional faint echoes of symptoms from people I've worked on. So anything that will advance my skills beyond what I've done so far I am interested to hear about.  The tactile imaging always works for me. Visualisation alone is never "real" to me at all.

Have you tried Astral Dynamics or Mastering Astral Projection by Robert Bruce yet?
I haven't personally progressed beyond energy work myself-but that's because I'm a little lazy. I can feel chi/energy easily so it's immediate reward . but the rest is harder feel. Having read the books however I suspect someone as dedicated as yourself should be able to learn the discipline and be projecting within a few months

Having read through the above, it sounds to me that "summoning" a spirit successfully is more akin to a magical version of do unto another what you would have the other do to you. No matter "what" the other intelligence is.
That sounds like common sense . If I was more psychic I'd have been tempted to try evocation using the above advice as a guiding ethic. However I appear to be psychically blind this lifetime (if that's valid). Hmm..I'll do a new post on this.

Who are you waiting for?

Sorry I've only dreamt of being a "wizard" and have attempted spells last year with my "xenoglossalia" . As it happens the only thing I know I can do is move chi. But as I finished your post I had the impulse to write the above question.
I hope it means something more to you than me . You may have to move in the direction your heart is pulling you to find out more. Ask yourself to find out when you sleep next.

OK that's completely nuts . I have to send that to every nutcase I know .
Thanks for the laught Frank, and a Happy New Triangle, I mean year to you too.

I don't normally do the tears thing, and since there's always tragedy in the news I don't react any more (sadly). BUT, reading this thread however did cause a reaction.
The same reaction I had the first time I used Robert Bruce's Mystic heart healing technique. Involuntary tears..and a quickening of the healing energy without any real effort-intention only but no effort. Normally I have to work at this. So maybe I can hope it helped someone? I aimed it in the general direction of the earthquake and I did for the first time ever get a few images. I never normally get any psychic stuff, but I did have this for a second or two.
I hope it helps and I hope I can do it again.

Well even under torture I'm afraid I couldn't give more than verbal lipservice to a dogma.
Extreme fundementalist faith is blind. It always has been. Always will be. And it's a nice fast way to encourage our entire race to head towards extinction. Hey maybe that's the plan.
Set us all to religious war, just in case other stupidities aren't quite enough along with natural disaster, disease and other issues. Lets give man this propensity to circular reasoning and blind faith.
Sorry but this Islamic /Religious dogmatic stuff REALLY gets to me. They always believe in their books. BAD MOVE. In this I nail my colours to the post.
Spirituality is great, blind religious faith is not. IMHO

There are many paths to "God" or "Realisation". No-one, but no-one has the right to claim that there is ONLY one way. To top it off no one has the right to claim that any forms of violence, force and coercion is a proper way to spread a faith.  If "peace" is something that will weaken a religion-then that religion itself is in the wrong.  I don't care that I don't have deep understandings of Islamic law and culture. I don't have a deep understanding of many psychopaths either, I don't have an understanding of many people who can rationalise acts of pure evil.
But I can feel that they are wrong in what they do-even though in their hearts they've been twisted to believe they are right.
If any religion was the ONLY true religion, then not a single human alive would be able to deny it, as it would be self evident without the intervention of violence or other methods.  The trouble with language and semantics is that we are able to justify ANY position with all kinds of clever quotes, and arguements.
To kill in self defence (of yourself and your loved ones) as you would be killed otherwise is argueably the only real reason to fight that cannot be condemned. To kill for religious belief-i.e. to force the take up of that belief is ONE of mankinds greatest evils (in my own opinion). There are other things as bad but this stands out to me at this time.

Nothing, but nothing will persuade me to believe in anothers dogma ever. And conversion by force of arms or economics is NOT real, it's insincere and "Allah" would know the difference.

"May YOUR God(s)/Goddess(es) walk with you, guide you and protect you"

I think I'm happy speaking one language. English. that'll do .
Telepathy-I understand it isn't exactly universal as it can occur on different levels and many beings don't have access to all levels of telepathy. I'm using "levels" in a rough way. i.e emotional, mental, conceptual etc. Hard to talk to a being who's never seen electromagnetic radiation but lives in a universe that has a different set  of forces.
I'd say more but I'm doing something else here too . and I'm lazy.

ZaadzBrian
http://www.zaadz.com/community/showthread.php?t=36
Is the writer of this piece. I liked it enough to think perhaps a few people here would like it too.


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Here's a little piece I wrote last year. Hope you enjoy:

thinkarete.themanifesto.

What would you do if you weren't afraid?

OK...

So...uh...what exactly are you waiting for?

This isn't a dress rehearsal...

Wake up!

Here's the deal: What we can be, we MUST be.

Period.

There's no getting around that one.

So, turn off your TV. Put down your drink. Get off the medication.

Quit numbing yourself. The pain's not going away.

Not until you thinkarete.

"thinkarete"?

Yep.

Gandhi got it. Einstein got it. Mother Theresa got it.

Tiger gets it. Gates gets it. Oprah gets it.

The Greeks got it.

Get this: Guys like Socrates, Plato and Aristotle said that if you want happiness you better live with areté--a word that literally means virtue or excellence but has a deeper meaning...something closer to "constantly striving to reach your highest potential."

areté.

How beautiful is that? It was one of the highest ideals of Greek culture.

It should be one of ours.

Tragically, it's not.

We seem to be more interested in resumes, accolades and 401k's.

Speaking of retirement...

Who came up with that? Work like crazy doing something we're not passionate about so we can accumulate enough money to pay the bills from our stress-caused illnesses while we complain about what we should have done when we were still young.

Hmmm...We can't quite figure that one out. Seems like it makes a bit more sense to go ahead and dare to live now...

Why not thinkarete?

Live to your highest potential--moment to moment to moment.

Not in the mood?

Fine. Then live with regret, anxiety, and disillusionment.

Your call.

Think about it. When do we feel most alive?

Exactly. When we're being ourselves--our highest selves.

You want happiness?

thinkarete.

Dream. Grow. Stretch yourself.

Rip off the tie. Jump out of the cubicle.

Dream. Think. Dare to be crazy.

What are you waiting for?

thinkarete.

Are you crazy enough to think you can change the world?

Good.

Now go out and do it.

Live. Love. Smile. Hug. Laugh. Dream. Do. Create.

Have fun. Be intense. Be audacious. Be unreasonable. Act impeccably. Breathe.

Be you. Be different. Get paid to do what you love. Dance in your underwear on your way to work...

Why not?

Ditch the tie. Escape the cube. Leave the 8-5. Trash the resume.

Ignore the critics. And the cynics. Burn the corporate ladders. Laugh at the ceilings.

Quit the bitching. Open your mind. End the laziness. Overcome the fear. Transcend the conditioning...

Why not?

Move the world.

Change the world.

Push the human race forward.

Whatever you call it, go out and do it.

When?

Now.

Not when you have enough money or once you do this or do that. That's nonsense.

It's not gonna be easy, but go out and live your dream. Now.

You deserve it.

And, if that doesn't move you: The world deserves it.

thinkarete.

http://www.thinkarete.com
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I'm sorry but there is a difference between open mind and a "true believer". It's a passion of the human race, maybe because of death or other issues, that we have to have prophecies.  What's amazing is that when seeming solid prophecies don't happen that the believer's are amazing at ducking what didn't happen and STILL believe.  I personally don't believe as such.  I work "energy" work as per Robert Bruce's NEW and chi kung because I personally can feel it, reproduce it regularly and do stuff with it for myself.  If something requires faith alone I ignore it-I don't believe or disbelieve, as either way too much mental energy is required.
^ This statement applies to things like AP, OOBE, afterlife, God(s), spirits etc. Yes it's interesting to talk about but believing OR being closed are not that useful. If I'd experienced spirits, and other things then I'd not need belief-though I'd have an opinion about what I experienced.
This 2012 stuff sounds and feels like yet more NEW age nonsense to me. I for one am sick to death of "Yoghurt weavers", prediciting this/that/the other, talking of new age coming and other stuff. Long windy passages said to be channelled etc.  To me any real exploration needs to be from within.
So yes, people can definitly pick apart what I say in different ways. But I'm a skeptic to all blind belief, and that kind of nonsense. I'm a great "believer" in DIY. If the New Age stuff being published (and profited by in many cases) was that important-we'd all be getting in our dreams, in our lives and it would be pitched so that each individual could follow it.
It's not. I've nailed my colours to the mast with this post-I don't go for the wishy washy misty tinkly stuff at all. I go for real experience, that's what I respond to. Anyone can say anything with sufficient thought, time and motivation. It doesn't mean it's real.
And damn I did it again, I rambled.

Bottom line-unless there's some way to solidly prove prediction (HOW!!!) without just using yet more channelled stuff-I don't think it has any reality. .

P.S there's a reason i'm a little vitriolic. For several years a lady who I thought was a very dear friend had me going along with her on this stuff-she even had me believing I was meant to be one of the "technical team" to help the planet through this time and help work out space folding and other stuff.
yes, I was seriously naive and dumbass and wanted something to hang onto. It took me a few years to regain my independent critical thinking.  I stopped short of closed minded skeptism last year due to the fact I could STILL move chi-an ability I'd had since I was small.

For some reason I have this feeling that ego is the part of who you are that's always conscious. If you have a very low level of energy then ego alone can often seem to be a source of all kinds of mental misery (when I mean low energy I include low sugar and tiredness etc).
From my experience so far, raising energy levels in general from a combination of diet, exercise, meditation and plentiful energy work seems to add "more" to me.  It's like having your ego and more of you become present.
I likened to a funnel and an ocean. At my worst my ego the result of a really restricted 2 way funnel between me and the world. As I do more and handle energy better this funnel opens up. The ego is still there, but there's more of me as well.
Hmm I didn't think this would be so hard to describe in words online! . Ego to me is like the smallest part of me that expresses my personality and consciousness. Because of that it is good/bad/whatever I am but only in miniture and because it has limited capacity it's never complete and balanced -i.e it can be judgemental in a flash, or allow silly things to annoy it etc.  When I'm more expanded through other work then these things don't annoy or make me go into different moods the same way. As there is more of me present and aware, so more space for me to exist mentally.

Ok now I give up . Anyone get where I'm coming from?

iank, for some reason this:-

don't blame my parents i was born like it. what the [edit] do you know about it.keep it shut until you know the facts..

Does not strike me in any way as being particularly civil or friendly.
The majority of people on here are actually in the process of helping themselves, to learn, expand, grow and reject information when the need arises. In the process many are generous enough to actually try to help or advise others as far as their experience can.  This to me is an act deserving of a civil tongue and a measure of respect, at least for the consideration of the time given if nothing else.

The problem with text only of course is we cannot read into words what would be conveyed by meeting, through body language and emotion. So you sound uncivil and unfriendly with the above quote. That may not be true. Yes there may be lots of issues you have that none of us can actually guess at. However if you have the intelligence to use the Internet, you also have the intelligence to think more deeply about what you say.
Your question is perfectly reasonable, and I'd like to have answers also. I suspect those answers won't be nice and simple. I'd like simple answers too at times.
My suggestion would be to explore more deeply if the question is important enough to you.
This isn't a flame, I don't know you and cannot judge beyond what I read. You sound angry, but it's easy to sound different from what you are actually like on the Internet.

Well I've been following the dream journal thing for a few nights. It's a bit bitty-having to use mindmap format because i never get plots .  Still the memory practice alone is useful.

I understood "clearing" the mind to be chiefly concerned with switching off that part of your mind that constantly verbalises and has a habit of dashing around talking to you. Rather than being free of internal thoughts entirely your mind becomes silent of verbal thoughts.

Just a passing thought

That's way too "back to nature" for me!. Naked round the house with a real fire on is good. naked in the garden in the summer when training is good too.

But naked in the cold? Unless you love being cold I personally can't see the point. Outside of the practice of "tumo" perhaps if you really have to have that challenge!

Try waking up 2 hrs earlier than normal if possible. Also try some meditation perhaps before sleeping too. If you've got any energy work knowledge such as NEW energy ways, do a little of that before sleep also.

Practice recalling your dreams-BEFORE you even think about moving or doing anything else. Replay every component you can. Move forwards and backwards in the memory. gently hold onto each piece. And then attempt to find a key word or phrase that would remind you of the scene/sequence of events.

Then write it down. I suggest mindmapping as an alternate way of recording dreams as your recall won't always give you a sequence that makes sense. But the branches of a mind map would give it another kind of sense.

Above all get used to having a goal of having and recording dreams. Each night remind yourself of this.

There's more, but I'm not even a novice . So someone more expert can be more concise and add more to this.

The Monroe Institute, does it still train people in these states of mind?
I ask because I'm having difficulty doing anything more than move energy on a normal waking level. These alternate states of mind seem elusive and difficult for me to reach, at least so far.

I can't AP just yet LOL. But I will eventually, might take a long time though. Energy work=easy for me. Trance and other skills seem impossible

I can deal with strictness in itself. Scientific proof does have to follow some standards in order to obtain "proof" wherever possible. But successful science was/is done by open minded thorough researchers. It's unlikely to be achieved with a thoroughly closed skeptical mindset.

It is bloated and showy for sure. And you are totally correct on the proving 70% success thing in my case. Way too many variables for me to truly know. I am relying on people's feedback and what I see/sense as well.
I would think the chances of my being able to win the $million are very slim with that kind of setup. Unless someone can think of an easily objective way to prove it? I personally can't.

I've come to the conclusion that both closed minded skeptics and blind believers are at extreme sides of dead end thinking. Neither one is going to advance the knowledge of mankind by very much. We all already have some idea of the power of faith and the mind and we already are aware of the value of solid logical/analytical/critical thinking.
Now what's needed is solid work by open minded skeptical people who basically are only interested in truth-NOT just their own philosophical viewpoint.

Macaroni, as far as I know, at least what I've learned from the RB workshop recently and my home practice: you can't close the chakras. Attempts to "close" them stimulate them further.

I would go along with clearing the mind and similar meditations to recuperate however. To ground yourself would need some exercise/shower/protein or even sex possibly (?).

For you Telos.

http://www.alternativescience.com/james-randi.htm

When I have heard on TV the arguement that Randi's $1million is unclaimed being proof that there is no psychic abilities or paranormal events, it makes me mad.
The stupidest arguement I ever heard a "skeptic" come out with.
How many years of study equal knowing everything there is to know? Many many people study their specialities for for many many years, and still find out that they are ignorant in many areas that they should be expert.
I'd place greater confidence in someone if they were open minded about what they didn't truly know. If Mr Randi wasn't closed minded as a personal philosophy then his expertise would be worth respect.
I am sure there are many people here who can demonstrate reasonably show they have abilities-to heal or see clairvoyantly-in relaxed informal circumstances. There's possibly some with the discipline to enable them to perform in a normal scientifically rigorous setting.
But there isn't one I bet who could deal with the risk on a personal level of failing in front of James Randi with the conditions involved.  I wouldn't, I've had about 70% success with healing (very roughly note) and it's not super strong compared to some I met at Buckland Hall.
To me a real skeptic is a seeker after truth-real truth-WHATEVER that truth may be. NOT a seeker after validation of only his own belief/personal philosophy or what he thinks he already knows. <-That's a bigot.

http://www.alternativescience.com/skepticism.htm

The modern day use of the word skeptic is sadly hijacked by actual bigots and narrow minded types who hijack the terminology of science and critical thinking to support their view. It's the wrong word.
A critical thinker would take into account everything and do their best not to be biased-where possible.

As far as I know I understand the amygdala appears to have a role involving the emotions. I've read it somewhere that it regulates and deals with emotional response in general.
Now whether it also helps us tune in to "higher" emotions as well is another matter.
I would imagine some of the awareness exercises used in NEW primary centre stimulation might stimulate this to some extent also.