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Ha! I still have that drawing somewhere in my belongings.  Funny because when I look at it now, I can see it with fresh eyes and think, why the snake?  And why did I write volume I,  I could have just as easily chose volume IV.  Interesting.

Welcome back Nay

Everyone does.

A dream is simply a non-physical experience where you don't realize you're dreaming.
You're essentially an actor in a play who doesn't know it's a play... you're the actor who thinks they're ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY EXPERIENCING. 

So whenever you're dreaming, you're not you.  You're someone else playing a part.
When you *ARE* you... that is what people usually call an "astral projection", or depending upon how much of *YOU* there is there, a "lucid dream". 

Hi everyone, I've been thinking lately on how I can relate my taste for dark heavy music to the spiritual. Is there any place or reference for dark heavy music in the spiritual? Or there is no place for it? For instance I can listen to some types of old rap music and use that as a reference point for a life separated from the God for a lack of truth. Not to say that is the only way to view rap. I can enjoy it for what it is too. Anyway..

Note most of the songs I listen to are chill and laid back. But I do occasionally listen to dark music.

This is the song that inspired me to create this thread.
Verasect - Catch Your Breath (Øfdream Remix)
https://youtu.be/qFSvvdFUa7A

Does listening to this music relax you?  If it does, then it's "spiritual" to you.

Just about anything can be spiritual.  It's HOW you interact with something which defines it.

Anxious, because of the uncertainty going on today.  Now Ontario is being threatened with another lockdown because people don't seem to be taking this as serious as they should be.

That's great that YOU are not worried about this.  But I worry about my friends and family.  I don't want to see anyone get sick.

Whether you don't want to believe or accept that what's going on is real is besides the point.  My sister in law is an emergency room nurse, she's seen covid up close and what it does.

Any other talk of covid being "not dangerous" is going to be moderated. It's misleading and dangerous to spread that and the pulse won't be party to it.

The gullibility of Americans tinkles me off. But I'm done.

Oh that damn tinkling! 

Thankfully, common sense prevailed the day.  My hope is that Biden is the healing factor you crazy Americans need. 

I don't think it'll happen, but I'll continue to dream.  haha

I've heard rumours here and there about Frank. 
Never met or talked to him myself, but I know folks who have.

I choose to believe the hype... Frank has passed on from this reality. 

Is there something in particular you wanted to ask? 
Many people here, including myself, are well versed in what Frank spoke about and can try to answer on his behalf.

Hello All,

In Hungary the disease is getting worse and worse, but I love quarantine. Didn't like the office and this new situation is sort of an opportunity that gives me more time for introspection/practice.
By the way, are there other Hungarians here? I'd love to know

That's a great perspective. 

I find that one or two drinks relaxes me to the point where it really helps.
Anymore than that, and it's a lost cause.

I am not inside this young ladies head , but as a general rule with a YouTube channel you want as many people as you can get. She does ask for comments .  She does speak good English .

Yes, but pestering her isn't cool. 
Leave her be. 
Just saying.

I have at times been able to keep my NP focus while also going to the bathroom. It's a matter of grounding your semi-wake self a bit more strongly and taking care of business without really paying attention to details. You've gone to the toilet a million times so you really don't need to fully wake for it.

Exactly!

*AND* you can use that as training for yourself while you're non-physical.
The act of STAYING within a non-physical experience isn't much different than what you're describing above.

The Rock... yeah, in your dreams...    

You made the suggestion... maybe she does, maybe she doesn't.

I know you mean well and all but what you're suggesting is actually harassment, so I'd suggest not to do that. 

There is a "method" (and I use that term loosely lol) where you drink a really big glass of water right before bed so that in the middle of the night you get up to go to the bathroom.  That gives you time to do a technique while going back to bed. 

I only know of one technique that might qualify. And I do mean might. And I only will put this out here with the understanding that anyone who tries this does so at their own risk. But first let me tell you why this is the technique I've chosen here in response to your question.

After years of being online and having had many discussions with people regarding dreams, nightmares and other things that go bump in the night this is the one that seems to cause a large percentage of the madness and mayhem. While we here explore OBEs and the Astral many don't and their only frame of reference are dreams and nightmares and superstitions. Now we here may all recognize many of these as actual astral travels. After a lot of digging and asking questions (not all by me on either of those) it seems there is a physical state that can be alluded to.

I do NOT recommend this because the results are usually nightmare and crazy inducing quality. But it seems to throw people out there. So there's your word of caution and I'm sure others will have something to say that may be quite different or in tune.

Some might think I shouldn't put this out there and they may be right. I am not claiming it will work for you or anyone else. So you have the warning and there are better ways to go but if you just want out no matter what, well the choice is your.

The technique:
Eat a nasty meal (something that doesn't quite agree with you). (This will cause gastric distress)
Go to bed
Lie flat on your back (no pillow or a firm pillow. (This will put pressure on the cerebellum)
Go to sleep.

If you are prone to nightmares and negative energies I HIGHLY suggest you Don't do this.

Oh man, that sounds like a normal night for me.  HAHA

That's a little bit too literal interpretation of what Frank was saying.
Frank's experience is his, you have to find your own way.
This makes teaching via reading other people's experiences a bit tough.

Essentially, consciousness isn't all neatly organized as Frank would like us to believe it is.
There's no "individual" area of consciousness where one can point to and say "THIS IS WHERE YOU DREAM"... there's no such thing as the "astral proper".
Consciousness is a whole, and you have direct access to that whole at all times.  What I believe Frank was confused about (and it's the same problem that Robert Monroe faced) is that consciousness isn't linear.  Consciousness is always collective.  There essentially is no concept of an "I", in consciousness. 

The only way through this is to just experience with an open mind.  Don't jump so quickly to labeling your experiences... most people label them wrong, which then sets them even further back in understanding.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

We really need to fill that abyss... someone's gonna trip and fall into it one day.  >_< 

I also have read that the US government is still doing RV along with astral travel. The only time I was able to access the first debate was when they were inside (the two candidates) and it was from a distance. You're better off watching the actual debates rather than RV/APing there IMHO.

Nobody "watches" you.  Whatever people say about the US Government this or the US Government that... that's their own fears of what they're doing.  They feel GUILTY for doing what they're doing.

I wouldn't worry about anyone "watching" you.  That's just an absurd concept. 

Heya Luffy!

It's seems pretty straightforward, but let me see if I can simplify the wording.

It seems to be all about focusing on your breath and slowly, over a short period of time, increasing how deep you breathe in and out.

Step 1: Find somewhere you won't be interrupted.  Sit comfortably.

Step 2: Breathe normally, focusing on the air coming into your mouth and into your lungs.  Do this for, probably 10 minutes or until you feel a sense of relaxation begin.

Step 3: Now, instead of breathing normally, you're going to begin breathing in a bit deeper.  For example if you breathe out 4 seconds and in 4 seconds... then you're going to, at least, double that to 8 seconds in and 8 seconds out.  Keep doing that until it becomes a relaxing experience.  (I usually find deep breathing to be VERY relaxing )

Step 4: Now, as you breathe in, you're going to add a 4 second (or however long you want) point where you're holding your breath.  So breathe in 4 seconds, hold for 4 seconds, then breathe out for 4 seconds.  This has an even further effect of further relaxation.

Step 5: Work on further deepening those breathes... focusing entirely upon the air coming into your lungs and then exiting your lungs. 

You're essentially using the air as a focus for your attention.  The more you can bring your entire awareness to your breath, the deeper you'll get. 

Does that help?

I'm glad that everyone seems to be generally trying to make good of a bad situation. 
Perspective is definitely a big chunk of the source of happiness as LB points out below. 

I like to observe people's behavior and I am noticing how different people's perspective really is. For example, my company decided to release our annual merit increase. I called my direct reports to inform them of their percentage. One of them said wow, that's really low, when can we get promotions again? The other one said, I don't really care what's the percentage, I am just thankful to have a job. So, here are two people in the same boat, but one of them sees the glass half empty, the other one sees the glass half full. Guess which one has more happiness and joy in life?

Oh my!  That really does nail the "perspective" thing on the head! 

Just thought I'd check in to see how everyone has been coping with the coronavirus and just life in general lately?

I live just east of Toronto (Ontario, Canada), everything is going fairly well here.  I mean, we're having a rather anxiety-causing jump in cases... but I guess we're handling it okay.
Personally, I'm a little on the anxious end of things... but I'm managing. 

Everyone doing okay these days?  Holding up okay? 

Hello, it has been a while. For some reason i am having such long breaks in between the experiences.

last night i had another vibrational experience and a short exit though. but something keeps on re-ocurring and has me wondering if any of you has experienced something similar: i so often hear my son calling me or see him scared. it is like sabotage, because each time i think it is real and i think that i need to get back into my body quickly. same last night. it was frustrating, because it was so long until i was finally able to exit again...

my son is scared of the dark and he is also very sensitive to OBEs, but in general it scares him too much.  We talk a lot about grounding ... i try to be easy on him, as there is no need to push or rush him.

so interesting though that it seems as if his spirit is sabotaging me.... or maybe my own psyche uses his fear to sabotage myself....  maybe it does not have anything to do with him at all?

Have you experienced something like this? Any input?

Thank you so much <3

It sounds like something within YOU is stopping you.
Next time try pushing through it... trust that your son is okay.

Tom Campbell always said that in order to project you have to be willing to die.  You need acceptance.

I'm a firm believer that while non-physical, you experience through your learned physical constructs.
Meaning that if you have only ever seen something a certain way, chances are much better that THAT is how you'll experience a projection.

I always say that WHAT you experience while projecting is objective, however HOW you experience it is subjective.

Consciousness isn't segmented into "this is *MY* part" and "this is *YOUR* part".  Consciousness is consciousness.  It's a WHOLE.  All parts of that whole have access to the rest of it.

Hmmm... that's gonna take some time for me to read, re-read and digest. 

Thanks though!

Hi, Fresco.. ( Xanth ) . .

It is true there may be many discrete definitions designed over the years.. but those designed there is consensus upon.

The most known, and perhaps used is that of the biblical reference to ascension, - which is a graduation not just of the consciousness but of the ( consciousness cells of the ) body as well, as Karxx Gxx has said "into a higher vibrational state of being". This is accompanied by what we know as the physical body elevating in frequency to the point of dematerializing from 3D physical space. The consciousness animating this body-form may also reanimate it visibly back into 3D physical space. As it is said the one known as Jesus did. I hope this helps. I, myself feel I am participating in this program.

This has brought one big question to my mind, if I may ask you Casey.
I'm not entirely sure if you believe along the lines of the concept regarding my question... so if it's not part of "your" system, please do smack and ignore me.    hehe

How do you reconcile the concept that this physical reality is an illusion (so meaning the physical body doesn't objectively exist) with the idea of ascension of that physical body?

For me... the idea of a physical ascension as strange (as I understand how you see it, please correct me if I'm waaay off base), because, to me, there is no "physical". 

Everybody talks about spiritual ascension, but what exactly is it??

It's one of those "terms"... there's no agreed upon definition.
Find a definition which resonates with you and work towards it.

.......that is, as long as you're not harming anyone else or yourself.