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[I just can't see how it's harmless]

Pre-coffee thoughts in response to G3MM4 and in light of last nights journey:   sketchy thoughts about the human condition, and death being the key that releases us from this confining thing we insist is reality, and the idea that the spirits (neither good nor bad) that continue to remain "in touch" with this world are those that even in death cannot let go of their concerns, their needs, their desires, and beliefs.  The idea that beings who function on a higher level have little if no concern for the individuals or states of lower functioning.  The question of diluting ones energy by opening ones self up to lower frequencies, and whether we are in general evolving or devolving as a race?  

"I think therefore I am"?...and the coffee is slowly starting to kick in, and with it the confusion...more questions, and no answers.  Wouldn't the idea of moving towards a higher state of consciousness involve "letting go" of it all?  Is that not what the most profound spiritual seekers of our past have tried to pass on?  Laying with dogs, and getting fleas?  Still I feel that many of us are choosing to stick around and do the work...healing others.  Yet, are we are truly prepared, and are we sure that our "compassion", and "charity" are not contributing to the increasing disturbances? Are we part of the solution or part of the problem?

Hmmm, you do have a logical point there but somehow I just can't see how it's harmless. Don't ask me how I know but I just know that it's not harmless at all.    G3MM4

I'm not saying it's either...I'm just prying at the frame of mind...the idea of "self" that we measure all other things against.  What is that function?  What will be lost by changing perspective?  If you are unable to view this entity as anything other than negative...then that is where it will remain; where you will remain as well.  I JUST CAN'T SEE...you see?!?  You think it's negative...therefore it is.  It's not really important, because in grasping that understanding it opens one up a entirely new mess of problems that in the long run...the long way round...won't necessarily bring u to a higher function.  

there is a link: http://www.hawaiian.net/~larryw/html/shaman.html that isn't too far out of the box, that explains better than I...this path of being open, and J. Krishnamurti is well respected when it comes to the limitations of belief systems.  I wish all the answers came in little red pills, to satisfy the human need for immediate solution and control, but nothing that comes easy is ever truly respected.  I don't feel that the mind has to be left at the entrance to the rabbit hole, but there is a definite benefit to leaving the baggage of it behind if you wish to survive.

We can easily understand the logic where Neo had to release 'what he believed to be real', so that he could embrace a higher function, a truer power...something "more" or something "less"?  something simpler?  We're bizarre animals that walk into houses flipping switches and expect light, hot water, and cable. We go to unfulfilling jobs, so we can expect a paycheck every week or two to pay for the luxury of flipping switches.  It's easy to see how these things could one day no longer exist, and what would we do then? do you know how to generate your own electricity? We can look back and appreciate the advances made from the time when people chopped wood, and carried water, used the wood to build fires, and boil the water to bathe...but as individuals we know nothing of these struggles, and the self-discipline, and wisdom that comes with self-sufficient, independent living...so dependent we are, so free we pretend to be, as we chose which channel to watch, what color hoody to wear, and what type of coffee combination best represents us at starbucks.

haunted: there is a reason why, and i won't be so quick to believe that it's something exterior. "i'm a good person with a hole in my heart, that lets the little devils in", "why me?", etc.  there's a whole hell of a lot more going on than meets the eye. we're conditioned to be victims with slave mentalities, conditioned to constantly be on the look out for something outside ourselves to rescue us...a messiah, a knight on a white horse, etc.  of course this isn't working and there's another problem boiling away on the back burner that has to do with empowering victims.  (re: something along the lines of the teachings of ramtha)  What happens to Neo "after" the last reel quits rolling?  Does he take up smoking and baking cookies alongside the Oracle???

I'm rambling, and the lucidity of coffee is telling me scrap this entire post, but if this is "your" life...then just take a moment to look at what you've created...not as a victim, not as a god, but as an artist.  look at it objectively and just notice it.  SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS, and then for what it's not, and somewhere in between look for subtle clues.  

everyone looking for answers to the neg attacks, and yet there does not seem to be one single thing that seems to work all of the time, or even a fraction of the time.  what is that really telling us?  ask someone to point to their mind, and nine times out of ten they'll point to their head. wherever they point to...it's in their body, and though your mind might be yours...it seems that a whole lot exists that can easily hack into it.  things that exist that know how to use our minds a whole lot better than we do.
is that scary???  you'd be grateful if someone came along that knew a hell of a lot more about cars, while you were broken down on the side of the road, but if they declared salvage rights and drove off with it...that would be another matter.  maybe something is claiming salvage rights to our minds? we're not really using them anyway...maybe it's been going on since forever, and only recently are we rising to notice?...............

.......starting up again...yada, yada, yada. ENOUGH!
 
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have you tried asking the entity what it wants?  they'll usually reply.  

i know it's really hard to do even while awake, but changing your perception of the situation can be useful.  In bad situations most people run or freeze, fighting back is a good sign as long as it's logical, and not emotional.  don't waste your energy screaming.  you don't sound like someone that scares easy, so it might not be that hard to stop "reacting" to this thing, and simply ask it what it wants.  you might be pleasantly surprised.  although most neg's have a look that only a mother could love, or a twisted freak like me...not all are actually neg's.  some of the most hideous and gruesome entities can be the sweetest.  remember beauty and the beast?  kind of like that.  what if some being had some really special work it was trying to accomplish, and something else bound it in a terrible cloak of evil looking tentacles to keep anyone that might be able to help it from bothering? this is the way i would like you to start thinking.  i'm not saying it's not a neg, but the chances of it really doing any great harm to you are slim (in my 30 years of experience).  i think psychic defense is extremely important, because i sense without doubt that the two sides are merging.  the neg's currently vibrate on a level that can't do much harm to you physically.  Although i know from first hand experience that they can make you loony as a bat, but what if this thing with the tentacles was actually, physically (for real) hanging from the ceiling?  would you be able to draw on whatever you needed, to surround yourself with light?  could you fight it with the same understanding that "as above...so below", that just because it's massive and powerful looking doesn't mean squat...or would you try talking to it, before tinkling it off, or putting it on the defensive?

you said you knew the difference between reality and imagination, but you can't view the astral realm through physical eyes, as you can't work physical magic in the astral realm as well.  reality is what you've been taught is going on here in this place...be its real or not.  imagination is closer to where you want to look for answers, thus keeping your perception of things flexible.  i believe this site is extremely useful, this topic in particular, but in the end only you know for yourself, from yourself.  remember a camera lens.  focus on what you see, pan out as far as you can...always watching closely...and once you have refocused, zoom back in.  in and out, in and out.  you think this thing is evil and out to get you, then you think maybe it's not, maybe it has something important to tell you, then you go back to thinking it might harm you.  in between this movement you are vigil.  i think it has to be some "way of the warrior" thing.  never coming to any conclusions about your opponent...the stagnation of thought opens you up for a blow.  stand back, stay limber...let the thing makes it move.  watch it...don't see it, don't try to understand it, don't try to calculate it's moves, it intentions, etc...just WATCH it.  Is it really trying to do you in?  WATCH...what else is going on with YOU, with IT, with everything.  

all my best
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I personally have never found anything that works, and I've tried a lot of different approaches over the years, I have cats, which are suppose to be protective, but that doesn't work.  I've tried burning herbs, smudge sticks, pouring salt around my bed, burning incense, burning candles, hanging holy symbols over my bed, painting protective symbols on the walls, asking, begging, praying...you name it.  I have not tried the sucker punch, crystal things, and would be interested to know if anyone has had any success with them???  I tried to contact don croft who invented the things and share a little personal experience.  he accused me of being a nsa agent, and wouldn't have anything to do with me?   .  He said nothing would help me until I chose to be on the right side, and I have a hard time trying to figure out which side that is.  I don't like sides...I like the middle...more than that I really like being a spectator, but these things (negs) just won't let me sit on the sidelines...maybe there's something to be said for that?!?

good luck and if you find something that works...please post it here.

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Twelve o'clock chant
 - Leonard Cohen (born 1934), The Spice-Box of Earth (1961)

Hold me hard light, soft light hold me,
Moonlight in your mountains fold me,
Sunlight in your tall waves scald me,
Ironlight in your wires shield me,
Deathlight in your darkness wield me.

In burlap bags the bankers sew me,
In countries far the merchants sell me,
In icy caves the princes throw me,
In golden rooms the doctors geld me,
In battlefields the hunters rule me.

I will starve till prophets find me,
I will bleed till angels bind me,
Still I sing till churches blind me,
Still I love till cog-wheels wind me.

Hold me hard light, soft light hold me,
Moonlight in your mountains fold me,
Sunlight in your tall waves scald me,
Ironlight in your wires shield me,
Deathlight in your darkness wield me.[/img]

temporarily as in the last couple of thousand years?

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did a google on deadlight, and found different things, none of them bounced much.
n.   1. Nautical.
        1. A strong shutter or plate fastened over a ship's porthole or cabin
            window in stormy weather.
        2. A thick window set in a ship's side or deck.
    2. A skylight constructed so that it cannot be opened.

You mentioned that your attacks keep you from OBE's.  Are they various (in all walks of life), or is there a reoccurring theme (the same type of attack over again)?  
It is very scary those first few times, but fear is definitely generated to keep you from rising to greater things.  I don't know how old you are, male/female, etc...not that it matters, but thinking about the effects of fear...Agoraphobia comes to mind.  People that are too terrified to leave their homes for fear of what "might" happen.  Of course I don't believe there's a label for people that are too afraid to leave their homes because of what actually "does" happen!  I don't know what my point is...open the bird cage and the bird won't leave.  First you have to understand what the fear is, and what it superimposes itself on.  The attacks and the OBE's share the same realm, but so does it all.  Those that fear death, fear life.  Baby steps, that's what worked for me, although my attacks started when I was six, and my OBE's at around ten. It's hard to say...they're one in the same, but they're not.  I never would have survived this long had it not been for the OBE's.  I am not one to say anything supportive of schooling, but it's kind of been like school for me.  More along the lines of some Native Indian vision quest type thing where children go out into the wilderness alone to find themselves.  Think how scary that must have been?  We lack that type of initiation into adulthood now days, and I feel we suffer badly for it.  I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't feel you can protect yourself from this side.  You have to cross over to "study", to gain a new perspective.  It'll be very important in the near future to understand these things, because the sides are merging .  Don't be a victim, be a soldier.  Believe in yourself.  There are a great number of lost souls in this physical realm that are educating themselves with the dark arts, mostly because it satisfies their need for power, mysticism, and immediate gratification.  They are being led astray  (very few know what they're getting themselves into vs. educated-intuitive-self-initiation) they think they are joining some social club.  drinking blood, psychically attacking people, and conjuring demons is the new trend.  They are willing to sacrifice their energy to a cause that is most negative.  What they are learning is very refined...a brainwashing of sorts that was set in place to raise an army.  From what I know the attacks will get worse, and more frequent.  It's important to cross over now, and learn about illusion.  A day is coming where you won't have to go out of your way, or out of body to fall into the freaky, unknown places...you'll be surrounded by it here.  The astral realm is no different from your physical life, in that it changes as your fear of it changes...for better or for worse.  There is nothing to fear, but fear itself.  The funny thing is (with both) is that the more you fear, the more you close up, the more vulnerable you are.  Open yourself up to the possibilities.  There's nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

yada, yada, yada
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I'm not sure this reply should be posted here under "defense", but I'm going for it.

It's difficult to give advice...causes and effects vary so much in each person.  but why am i here if not to share?

-  Cleanliness & Godliness:  do a good spring cleaning all round, where you live, where you sleep, your body...everything.  And do it with reverence of yourself.

-  Food & Hydration:  I know all this sounds simple, but drink a lot of water and know that most food that's available is pre-programmed in the negative.  If you can't grow your own, at least eat simple, and re-program it for optimum effect.

-  Doubt is not your intuition working.  The hydration aspect above is important for fluid function.  Like water (without thought) you will naturally move around obstacles.  Doubt is a foreign condition that stagnates.  It is not a useful tool.  Even with these tips...something will click or it won't.  Always question your doubt, as you would authority...that looming thing that tries to convince you that you don't know best.  

-  Do a goggle on "orgone" (generators, sucker punches, holy hand grenades, etc) ...similiar to the steel wool idea.  I have yet to invest any time or energy into experimenting with these, but feels logical & I'd be interest to know if anyone has had any success with them.

I might also try a fast, but be wise about it, and keep yourself fluid.  The Master Cleanse is good w/ maple syrup, cayenne & lemon juice.  You'll need to go at least three days before you feel the benefits of it.  Things might get worse for the first few days as you detox.  It really works wonders for clearing out the head & the mind.

Q:  What if you were a neg having these random thoughts of goodwill and kindness?  What would you do to stop it?  Increase your acts of negativity?

I know you are aware of the negativity or it wouldn't be driving you nuts.  Follow through with acts of kindness.  Go out of your way to do good deeds and remain vigilant of your behavior.  One negative comment about something can undo everything you've worked hard to combat.  Repressed anger is another thing you might look at.  People that have been severely hurt when young can be hyper-sensitive to any negativity from the outside, but refuse to see their own negative behavior towards others.

It has everything to do with EFFORT & INTENT...you create/manifest the life/situation you desire.  You have to figure out what seedy little thoughts are going on in your own mind, and embrace them.  Do away with with the negativity you hold for yourself, if you're ever going to get past this on your own.  You're the one with the power here...don't ever forget that!  You own the house...he's just visiting.  You let him in knowingly or unknowingly, and now you have to deal with it.  I know you're probably exhausted, but you make the rules...ALWAYS.  No compromise!  You have to be CONSISTENT!!!
Keep functioning with love, and this test you have chosen for yourself will eventually make you stronger.  No Pain...No Gain.

My perspective:  We all can read each other's minds, because we are all one and the same (connected).  We know the truth and the lies before we even here them.  So this thing which you must have some affinity for b'cuz you used the neutral word "spirit" is probably not the root of your problem.  As with any relationship...you have to accept the entire bag of goods, you can block out what you don't like, but the relationship is stagnant.  No growth.  "Tired of talking to him"...sounds a bit like sitting on the fence.  What do you talk about?  What is it that you don't want to share?  You don't have to tell me, but you need to think about whether you want this "spirit" gone for good, or not.  Neg's have boundary issues to say the least.  For the sake of your sanity...it's going to be all or nothing.  There's nothing stopping you from laying down the law.  Spirits are no different from people when it comes to pushing that line to see what they can get away with.  It's not going to be an easy thing, getting something like that back in the cage.  

Has this been going on for a long time?  Has it gotten worse lately?  Has anything changed recently in your life?  New job, friends, move, etc?  

Hope something in all this helps.

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New to this, but extremely well-learned in "attacks", and always learning when it comes to defense tactics.  Light is good...always, but I'd be interested to know if anyone else out there has tried "black light"?  Not the kind in nightclubs, but matte, black light.  I've only been using it for a few months now (was a gift of sorts), but where brighter lights can at times be consumed and used against you...the black light has thus far proved invincible, although a little more difficult to conjure and hold.  Sort of using their own weapons against them.  However, speaking of enemies...and the idea that the true on reside within, as yourself.  The best defense of all is knowing that nothing can harm you.  It requires complete awareness in an astral state.  It's the one thing I call on most often...and it only comes through practice.

As an example someone will be attacking me with swords, and until I can release the physical beliefs that hold me so tightly in their grasp...it hurts, disables, and drains me.  I have to remind myself that none of the earthly rules apply here, and it's not that everything *poof* disappears, it just isn't a factor any longer.  It works mostly in combat situations, and when you find yourself cornered or stuck.  It leads to drifting through walls, and breathing underwater, and shape-shifting, and all that other great (fun) stuff.  Where I find it lacks is sexual attacks, and I have 30 years of experience with these.  It's hard to take that moment to focus your energy on what you choose to believe is real during these times.  Fighting back with a vengeance is how I began, but it wasn't until I stopped fighting that things changed for the better.  In these cases "resistance" and "fear" is foreplay.  When I released my lower survival self, it was like the negs had to as well.  It changed everything.

Take someone with a negative attitude and try to argue with them, take an abusive individual and fight them, and it just makes everything worse.  It's a test...pushing and pushing and driving for an answer, until you finally exhaust yourself and give up, and there it is.  There is so much wonderful adventure to be found in the astral realm, and although I feel the rewards are only in the personal experience...I'd like to save some from exhausting their energies fighting a losing battle, because the powers that be on those lower levels will do everything they can to keep you there, and distraction is there most valuable weapon.

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