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#401
Quote from: Othos on March 27, 2011, 16:13:26
Perhaps you can halve time infinitely, but surely time would stop at some point, wouldn't it? :)
Let's say we have 2 meters distance to walk. If you think about it logically, there is an infinite distance between the starting point and the 2 meters mark. How many points are there between 0 and 2? Infinite? What about between 1.9 and 2? Infinite. 1.999999 and 2? Infinite. But still, you're able to advance that 2 meters with no trouble whatsoever. Maybe you are confused by the way people perceive maths.

Just because you can divide the distance between two points infinitely doesn't mean the distance is infinite... you are just redefining (increasing, more specifically) the intervals within the original distance.
#402
To say this was "a part" of the OP is quite the stretch without evidence pointing in that direction.

Practical reasons...
Optical illusion caused by something like the tail lights of a car
Kids playing a practical joke on you

Along paranormal lines... you may have encountered a spirit with negative energy (a demon, in religion.) Or, you may have encountered a cryptid... what you describe sounds a lot like reports of the Mothman in eastern U.S. and to a lesser extent, Chupacabra of Latin America.


#403
Quote from: Afghan on March 27, 2011, 03:10:35(I know the dimensions are different frequencies, the 3rd eye is like a natural antenna and have done a lot of research on the drug DMT)

If you *know* this then it appears you already have the answer to your question.

My belief (because I don't *know* for certain) is that projection is all in the mind... along with the physical universe, all "dimensions", and everything that materializes within them.

#404
Xanth has the right idea here, honestly. You don't need encouragement or "approval" from anyone.. this is a mentality that took me many hard lessons to adopt but you can have it for free. Find your inner warrior and pull the encouragement out of yourself.. if you wait around looking for approval you won't accomplish a fraction of what your potential would allow on this planet.
#405
This is the pre-projection state I find myself in most often, and you usually have to work to make something of it... focus on intensifying the vibes and that should allow you to maintain awareness enough to find yourself in projection.
#406
You want to feel fully awake... you want your body to be "asleep" or depleted of all mental energy so that the nerves that send messages regarding bodily sensation are completely relaxed and unresponsive. You should feel bodily numbness/tingling when this occurs. Then after you've made your body totally limp your goal is to place your thoughts away from your body's orientation/location in the physical. This isn't something that is accomplished by letting your mind wander, as this is what happens when we fall asleep. You need to overcome this natural process by maintaining awareness.. by maintaining focus. What is easier than focusing on two or three things? Focusing on one thing... a scene, a mantra, an object, tactile imaging, etc. Of course you can fall asleep into planned spontaneous projection like I do, but you need to keep your energy body in top shape with meditation.
#407
Just gotta say, fascinating experience... well written and kept me on the edge of my seat.
#408
I have a term "episodic dream"... I use it to describe non-to-mildly-vivid dreams that my mind wanders to in "default mode" if you will... I can only break free of these if I strengthen my energy body daily. These are loosely based on my social life in high school/college and involve random peers from my past I don't give much thought to in waking life. They often have an education-based vibe and stress definitely accompanies these dreams on occasion... just last night I had one where I felt pressured to complete a project I didn't start. Sometimes I'm in a class and the teacher wants homework from me that I forgot to do... perhaps what you describe is your "default" area in the astral.

Also I had a string of vivid dreams a couple years back where I'd witness a plane crash, typically around my house... they were pretty fascinating as I hadn't experienced anything like them prior.
#409
If it (your method) isn't broke why fix it? Sounds like your method works fine, it's fear of the unknown that's your barrier. I recommend you try becoming lucid in a dream before you go for a conscious projection... think of it like diving into a pool instead of inching into the water torturing yourself. This was my first exposure to projection (as an adult anyway) and it made me open to the vibration-driven projections I later had.
#410
I reported abdominal pain in a post way back when during a projection... when I woke from the experience I found my arm tucked under my body across my stomach area... I concluded the pressure was amplified to the point of discomfort for some reason.
#411
Nice poll but you forgot 'h' as a third option. :wink:

The main idea isn't to eliminate thought (though "mindless meditation" is great for improving energy body strength and recall, imo)... it's to distract yourself from the orientation, location, and overall perception of your physical body.
#412
I think it's called hypnopompic imagery.
#413
Quote from: donzieja on March 23, 2011, 16:00:15
Well. I thank you all for your criticism. I'm only 17 and I wrote this in a matter of 1 hour, by the way. I also was not looking for a fight... :-D

Sorry if I've offended any of you. I kind of feel moronic, but that's just my paranoia... I guess.

Anyways, thanks for the opinions. I agree that I do have "a lot to learn".

-Don

You didn't offend, just wanted to point out there is a better way to voice your opinion in order to sway others' beliefs... alienating 90% of your reading audience isn't one of them. :wink:

This is what I meant by "a lot to learn"... that came across condescending and that wasn't my intention.
#414
Quote from: Volgerle on March 23, 2011, 14:00:45
some of it I even liked, but these quoted parts show that it is just a religionist 'fire-and-brimstone' dogma sermon which you can hear from any evangelical bible fundamentalist preacher, you just clad it into some "mawkish new-agey talk"   :x

sorry, but I think you are completely wrong about true spirituality, this is not spiritual at all, it is that same ol' dumb 'us-chosen-ones-against-them-sinners-at-the-end-of-times'-talk

In other words: It's BS.

:-(

I have to agree. By the tone of this paper I'd suggest you were looking for a fight. Being on the offense is a surefire way to get people on the defense about their beliefs. They won't even think to consider yours, and I wouldn't blame them. The spirit of the physical is to engage in the physical. You make it sound like doing anything outside of living an ascetic lifestyle is hazardous to the soul. I can tell you have a lot to learn, bro.
#415
Survey says: Take a nap.
#416
Here's a reason why religion is good... it makes most people believe in an afterlife or at the very least think about it. I imagine expecting something after death makes the transition a lot easier and the destination a lot more inviting even if it is a "hollow heaven." Then you got your hardcore atheists who expect non-existence after death... they have "one life, one shot" so they cling to the physical after death (ie. ghost) or they are confused and/or oblivious to what's going on. Sure we are taking the "high road" by dabbling in the afterlife before death, but if my only options were skepticism or religion in the long run I'd go with the latter.
#417
Hey there. If you want to advance with astral projection you're going to need to meditate... no way around it unless you're born with the ability to project naturally. Before bed is the worst time to meditate unless you have a strong will to combat the temptation of sleep. Meditate anywhere between early morning and late afternoon to begin with.

Also, what you love about yourself may be keeping you strapped to the physical. I sense that you have an "out of sight, out of mind" thought process, yes? A lack of imagination might work against you in my honest opinion.
#418
Your experience reminds me of the time my old highschool buddies and I tripped on mushrooms.. we were in my best friend's basement watching Finding Nemo with nothing but a black light on. For some reason what you describe resonates with that memory.

Anyway, great read... far more interesting than the run-of-the-mill neighborhood flying I've been doing.
#419
Quote from: hereforhelp on March 23, 2011, 07:08:27
Alright hello there I am 14 years old, Ive been reading a lot about astral projections and I saw a lot of people who said that "willingly astral projecting is dangerous because you don't have a guide with you". I've also seen someone who said he felt pinned down while in the astral plane and he could of died in his sleep etc. I've also saw a lot of people on youtube saying astral projecting is dangerous when you willingly do it.

These people fail to know what they're talking about, unfortunately.

Quote from: hereforhelp on March 23, 2011, 07:08:27
Well I really want to do it, so I am going to use this one method I found on this other forum.
First I am going to lay down and relax, breathe in and breathe out until I am relaxed. (Do I close my eyes?)

It helps.

Quote from: hereforhelp on March 23, 2011, 07:08:27
Then I am going to focus on something, well I will focus on spongebob the cartoon. It says when ever your mind gets lost you are suppose to focus back onto that thing. Hmm, I will try to do this. So I will just keep focusing on spongebob imagining him as I close my eyes until I reach the The Hypnagogic State. Which I really don't understand, how do I know once I get here it says dreams begin to invade your point of focus once you get here.

You mean imagery, not dreams I'm assuming... you'll know because you'll be experiencing it. If you get excited or think about your progress at this point however, you'll likely lose your progress. It's tricky.

Quote from: hereforhelp on March 23, 2011, 07:08:27
So when I get to this state I will clear my mind until I see completely black and stop thinking about spongebob.

I'd continue thinking about spongebob at this point... I have a saying: "Go with what brought you to the trance."

Quote from: hereforhelp on March 23, 2011, 07:08:27
Then I will reach the vibration state. Do I wait till the vibration and tingling goes away then I do the seperation? (Imagine the roof is a magnet and it's pulling me up) Or do I do the separation during the vibration?

Vibrations don't happen for everyone so do away with this idea for now. If you make it through trance to the 3D blackness or pre-projection state you can either use the exit technique or continue focusing on sponge bob.. with the second option you may end up in some backwards version of Bikini Bottom though lol.

Quote from: hereforhelp on March 23, 2011, 07:08:27
And how do I go back to my body when I want to?
And what happens if someone wakes my body up?
Are you SURE this isn't dangerous in any kind of way?
Alright, that's about it just please answer my questions and help me. Astral traveling sounds very exciting fun and better the watching television or playing games or what ever.

You think of your body with the intent to return or you display too much emotion... excitement or fear being the main ones.

You return to your body.

It's not dangerous physically, though psychologically I can't speak for everyone.
#420
Conflict in the Middle East and natural disasters are nothing new to our lives, let alone planet Earth's existence.

Activity amongst the local population will increase it being the start of spring and all.

Like Carl Sagan said... extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
#421
When I started meditating in an effort to intentionally project (but before I actually projected) my dreams got more interesting and vivid... I had more control and my thoughts became more reactive instead of passive to what was going on. So yeah, it sounds like you aren't too far from having a spontaneous projection. Hope that answers your question...
#422
An object with a different "frequency" from the physical won't materialize in the physical.
#423
Quote from: Neo_one on March 20, 2011, 19:06:56
What would you suggest I focus on? The sensations themselves? Or should I try to stay focused on that red circle image?

I'd say whatever got you into the trance, so yes the red circle.
#424
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Stuck
March 20, 2011, 18:59:33
You could have a weak energy body. Do you try to meditate or do energy work regularly?
#425
You don't need to fall asleep before you have a projection. Sleep is just sort of a "bridge" most people use to get from waking state to out of body. You were clearly going deep into trance. The perception of your physical body would've become clouded out to nothing as you experienced a variety of stimulus. You would've eventually integrated into a projection with sufficient focus... all without a lapse in waking consciousness.