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#426
Greetings and welcome linemile
Many people become new members here with no prior experiences of being out of body. However, if you are interested, then it IS entirely possible that you will have that first OBE quite soon.

Good Luck on your journey

Cheers  :-)
Grey
#427
Hallo Jeffd
Both OBE4U and Dreamviews are quite interesting. I am not a member at either site but do lurk at both a lot.
If you are a practitioner of the Phase then you will feel at home here. Although more traditional OBE methods are used here as well.

Regards
Grey
#428
Greetings MD3
From the description of the event you posted it certainly Does appear that you had a fully conscious OBE. As you stated, 

QuoteI've been trying to have a conscious OBE for years unsuccessfully.

Yes, it does takes some people years (not just months) to have that first OBE. So congrats on this, you certainly deserve it.  :-D

Regards
Grey
#429
Greetings Mini stapler and welcome.
You obviously already have considerable knowledge about this subject. Also it would be a good idea to read some of the threads in the FAQ forum because there is a considerable amount of good info in there.

Regards  :-)
Grey
#430
Hallo to ArmyOfOne1911 And dreamingod
That's a good sign of progress as both of you took full advantage of an opportune situation to go out of body. And, yes, flying is a BLAST !.
Armyofone  I suspect that the joy and excitement that you experienced during that short flight was the cause of your plummeting. It tends to work like that you know, as too much excitement tends to cut short many a projection. I can sympathize about

Quoteweird things start to happen and I end up in places I have no clue about.

because that sort of thing has happened to me Many times.

Cheers  :-D
Grey
#431
Greetings ArmyOfOne1911
Your experience was certainly unusual and in some ways weird. Try not to worry about this overly much. A lot of strange and weird things happen during OBEs. Believe me because a lot of bizarre situations have happened to me during my out of body travels.
In my experiences the only situations that truly concern or bother me are those situations that REPEAT again and again (and this is true whether it be OBEs or dreams btw). If something happens and does Not occur again then I consider it to be part of the learning process and Don't sweat it. If a situation happens a second (or third or fourth) time then it is something that required full attention.

Regards  :wink:
Grey
#432
Greetings Shivers
Most people go through 'dry spells' where they go months, or sometimes years, without any or maybe only a few OBEs. Don't feel too bad about this. Sometimes those dry spells only last a few weeks. Hopefully you will be experiencing out of body travels agains quite soon.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#433
Hallo SeekersLegacy and welcome
You should by all means experiment with different products that might help you get out of body. I might recommend trying either hemisync CDs or a binaural beats program. I have used both and found both to helpful for getting in the right hypnagogic stateof  mind prior to going out of body.
If you have any success with the i-doser then please make a post about it here. I have never tried that but have heard some unusual stories regarding it.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#434
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hello...
January 18, 2012, 22:57:17
Greetings Oldsoul.
You have joined the Right site to meet fellow astral travelers and OBEers because the are many of us here. There is also a special forum here devoted to dreams and lucid dreams where everyone can post and discuss those experiences.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#435
Greetings heman and welcome.
We hope that you like it here and stay around awhile.

Cheers  :-)
Grey
#436
Puma
Yes, 1 week to six months is about right. It took me about 6 months (although I had a lot of OBEs as a kid but never realized what they were). It does take a few people longer than 6 months. So patience Is an important asset.

Regards  :-)
Grey
#437
Greetings Puma.
Experience with lucid dreams might well help you in getting out of body. Lucid dreams and OBE Do have similarities although there are also important differences. Just so you know - it usually does take first timers longer than a week to induce an OBE. So try to stay focused and positive and hopefully something good will happen.

Good luck  8-)
Grey
#438
Hallo LPC and welcome
The overwhelming evidence seems to point to the fact that animals Do survive physical death. I have encountered animals many times during my out of body travels. Though I have never met a passed pet from earlier days that event has happened to many other people who have reported it in these, and in other, forums.

Cheers  :-D
Grey
#439
Greetings proyect_outzone and welcome.
Your written English is definitely passable as I can certainly understand what you have posted and look forward to reading more of your posts in the forums here.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#440
Greetings all
proyect_outzone
You mentioned FAs as being 'chains". And yes, I agree completely! One of my best nights going out of body included transitioning 3 FAs directly into OBEs. Three FAs and 3 OBEs might not seem like a lot to some people but to me it IS a lot.
Also I have read accounts from other people who experienced as much as 10 to 15 FAs in one night. And some of those FAs also led to either OBEs or LDs. So, again, I endorse your opinion that,

QuoteThese false awakenings are the best things you can get

Regards  8-)
Grey
#441
Greetings Light
Going out of body directly through a lucid dream (or a non-lucid dream) is one of the most effective methods of inducing an OBE. If you can regularly become lucid during those nightly dreams then it should be relatively easy to have OBEs on a regular basis.
What cut short your OBE was probably the excitement as strong emotions usually curtail the average OBE. That's just something to be aware of so the next time you get out of body try to keep those strong emotions under control.

Cheers  :-)
Grey
#442
Hallo scout
That was well done. Managing to stay calm, not get overly excited and go out of body a second time through a false awakening shows real improvement. Taking advantage of those good opportunities to go out of body is at least as important as trying OBE induction methods before sleep.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#443
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: :D
January 09, 2012, 23:11:22
Greetings Dreamshards and welcome.  :-)
Having an OBE or an astral projection as a child is probably quite common. I too experienced this has a child but never knew what these experiences were. The ability to leave the physical body can be learned (or relearned) as an adult. You Do have a positive attitude and seem to be in a good frame of mind. So there is every reason to believe that you Will soon be able to deliberately go out of body.

Good luck  8-)
Grey
#444
Hallo horaciocs
Although I have not read Moen's Afterlife Guidebook per se I do lurk at his afterlife-knowledge.com website and have read quite a bit of the afterlife info that he has posted at that site. What Moen has to say about the afterlife is Very similar to what Monroe wrote about the afterlife in Monroe's 3 books. Both talk about reception centers, learning institutions and recovery' hospitals' that exist in non-physical realms. All these locations apparently exist in order to help the newly arrived there (= newly deceased from physical Earth) adjust to their new deceased situation and nonphysical environmnent.
Having had several OBEs and APS where I visited similar locations (both a hospital and a university in separate experiences) it is my belief that Moen's info is accurate. Of course there is more to the afterlife than hospitals, universities and reception centers yet Moen's Guidebook is probably well worth the read.

Cheers  :-)
Grey
#445
Greetings Benjam and welcome
It's good to know that you keep an open mind about spiritual subjects.
The best way to decide for yourself is to have a spiritual experience, namely an OBE. That is really the ONLY way to make such decisions.
Undoubtedly you already have had Many dreams. Dreams, like OBEs, are non-physical experiences. OBEs are different from dreams in that OBEs occur outside and apart from the physical body. Whereas most dreams, both lucid and nonlucid happen inside the physical brain.
So my advice is to keep an open mind to the possibility of an OBE occurring for you. And you need not necessarily attempt to deliberately induce an OBE. Many times OBEs will occur spontaneously by themselves, OBE are especially likely to happen when a person desires them.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#446
Greetings darunia and welcome.
Sleep paralysis (SP) is actually a common phenomenon. SP is normally association with normal sleep dreams. SP is the safety process that paralyzes the physical body preventing all of us from getting up and physically acting out our dreams. SP is fairly easy to break by getting a small finger or toe to wriggle and gradually moving the other digits and limbs.
If you are interested in deliberately getting out of body then SP can be used as a catalyst to successfully implement an OBE induction method.

Regards  :-)
Grey
#447
Greetings Travellingmist
It would probably surprise most people to find out how many young people (kids and pre-teens) can get out of body. But most young people lose that ability by the time they get out of high school (I did anyway  :oops:). So many of us have to relearn the ability as an adult.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#448
Greetings Moonstone and welcome, and Happy New Year
Bringing a physical object back from an OBE might be possible but it would be just about the hardest task imaginable. People can affect physical objects (especially electronic devices like tvs and radios) while out of body but returning back to the physical body with a physical object is going to be much too difficult for most people. But if you ever manage to do it then please let us know!  :-)

Regards  8-)
Grey
#449
Greetings and Happy New Year everyone!  :-)
Randolph
Yes OBEs and LDs Can sometimes overlap one another. This Dual Consciousness state is usually shared between being OOB and being hypnagogic. But a person can also be in two other states of consciousness simultaneously as well. I have been in OBEs and dreams at the same time on more than one occasion.
So I think that OBEs and LDs are separate and distinct states of consciousness but that both can be accessed simultaneously when the conditions are right. So a person could experience both an OBE and a LD at the same time and that would account for much of your confusion.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#450
Greetings scout and welcome.
Many children have an innate ability to get out of body and to control their dreams. This ability usually declines by the time he or she gets through high school. (It did with me btw). But it is much like riding a bike as the ability can quickly be relearned and even improved with effort.

Regards  8-)
Grey