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Hi Rob
Sorry about the mentioning of Doug, ha glad you answered , it is naturally open for all to do so. Yep my friend just a old recycled hippie, hitchhiked to India and lived all over the Mideast Afghanistan in the early 70s, did LSD in Goa, with the full moon parties. Had my share of the vierd and vonderful vorld of the hippie, note the German accent, there were a lot of Germans there then. We had folks specializing in smoking Cobra poison Datura seeds peyote and experimented with alternative realities and altered states of consciousness daily. Had my first OBE meditating in a Buddhist temple on the slopes of the Himalaya chatted with the Dalai Lama (before chatting became something you do on a computer) Yep you might say I have been 'round the block.

No bragging but you just stirred up old memories. Part of my old memories are the experiences of Spiritual phenomena, elevating swamis, moving furniture, and talking to spiritual entities in English, through the mouth of someone who was not aware that there is a world outside of Nepal. So all in all I remain cautious. How I wish you were all right, but I am pretty convinced that this is no more than a convenient belief system invented by charlatans who care not for anyone, not really, and who have very little real life experience and compensate by living and inventing fiction.

That is my opinion so far, but I realize I could be wrong so I wait and try to stay open.

Regards Mustardseed

[The world as you know it is just the reality that you have chosen, it is the focus of consciousness that you have chosen to adapt, (for reasons not even known to you) nothing is real, its Maya, an illusion, in some way it is in nature as a giant lucid dream, in which you play the main part.]

Hi Doug

I totally understand your post and I am glad that my understanding of Phasing is correct. This very idea is what I find a claim. That Negs just to mention one issue are nothing but a fiction of my mind, or indeed a fiction of someones  life. This makes them un real to my definition of them, in so much that they can be combatted by manifesting a attitude of non compliance (non belief).

In a way this very approach is what many people say about sickness, that it is all in your mind. Like the Christian Scientist said to a guy with a cold on the bus, "its all in your mind my friend" to which the guy replied holding his nostril open "no it ain't see....its in my nose".

The approach is in my opinion a mind trip and it is in contradiction to most other approaches, as it claims to be the underlying principle of them all, and the "Real" explanation of how it all hangs. I understand the phasing teknic and it works ok, it is the wider reality, the context if you will, that I find problematic. It seems to me that out of a teknic has grown a understanding of the world, that goes something like this.......
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The world as you know it is just the reality that you have chosen, it is the focus of consciousness that you have chosen to adapt, (for reasons not even known to you) nothing is real, its Maya, an illusion, in some way it is in nature as a giant lucid dream, in which you play the main part.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If this is the case then there is no right no wrong, you can do whatever you want, and like in a dream there will be no consequence to the choices you make, be selfish, unkind, aggressive egotistical it does not matter, cause it ain't real. One have to enlarge ones vision and see that its all about ONE SELF, you are number 1 the main player.

As I said phasing in itself as a teknic is fine but in the wider reality it does not address life and the issues life is made up of properly, all it does is provide people a means to live for themselves, something I believe will come back and bite them some time in the future. It seems to me to be more a product of someone wanting to write a book, and having run out of stuff about the teknic, have decided to play the "what if game"

Imagine there's no heaven its easy if you try as John Lennon sang ...............imagine. No consequence, no right no wrong no light no darkness, no God no Devil no negs, no fear nothing to be afraid of, it all is ok you are ok I am ok, lets sit back smoke a joint more and listen to a few more songs, hey look at that candle man heavy......

I am an old Hippie Doug I heard it all, this sounds a lot like old second hand hippie philosophy, nicely packaged but same old stuff.....cheech and chong "its all in your head man"

What do you think

Regards Mustardseed

Hi James

I think I will take your advise, ha it seems that I am doing all the talking and no one really wants to get involved in this debate. I wonder why that is. ?

It is my guess that the moderators and maybe others on the AP have too much vested interest in Phasing and maybe this is clouding the issue. No one talks James, no one answers question just..........silence.

One thing is to present a method, as a alternative viewpoint, another thing is to present it as an Ultimate truth. I guess I could soon get an answer that says something like "you want answers read my book", it wont be the first time. How does the green lady fit in James, is she a fiction of your imagination?

I tried for a light hearted approach, but I get the feeling that folks take themselves too serious.......that little burp is actually my favorite joke, I tell it to myself when I get too high and mighty ha.

So help me out here how do you think I should go about steering this back to solid ground, without getting boring? Is this a question I am alone in asking, is this of any kind of interest to anyone but me.

Regards Mustardseed

Hi James
How have you been . Thanks for the post, yea I have also tried both and settled for I guess what appears to be an in between using elements of both, however that is not my issue. What I am asking about and hope to get clarified is Phasings (Franks) overall view on spiritual phenomena. It seemed to me that Robert provided plausible theories and suggestions to explain things that I know to be true in my life. He never claimed to have the whole truth but merely tried to put into western words what other cultures have their own lingo for. At least that's what I understand. He attempted to describe the phenomena and chose words like energy points or centers instead of Chacra, negs instead of demons etc etc.

It seems to me that Frank is quite inexperienced in the spiritual aspects of these things, and have chosen to postulate that these things only exist in your mind, in other words that they are not real, if we define real something that appears to all. (i.e. the Taj Mahal is real cause we can all see it and experience it by going to Agra)

In other words negs as I previously understood them to work even before I read any of Roberts material, is only in my head, a subjective reality of sorts .

I certainly hope that this is not offensive to anyone especially Frank, but I find it questionable that he seems such a Phasing Fundi, I find it very hypocritical and misguided  for him to say

"I alone know the truth I alone can explain it I alone have the model, all that went before me were mystics frauds and power trippers, so buy my book and I will tell you all about it" This is not a quote from Frank he never used those words but seems to imply this attitude.

Doug re iterates this attitude and it seems so weird that they do not realize that they are guilty of the very things they accuse Mystics of.

Here is a little story for you Imagine........

Robert Bruce Adrian and Frank standing around. Adrian and Robert both with their hands tucked inside their shirts talking.

Robert.......I am Napoleon

Adrian.......WHAT!!! that's not true, you cant be 'cause I AM NAPOLEON

Robert...... No way, what makes you think you are, when I know I am

Adrian.......God told me man

Frank........That's not true, I never said any such thing

A slightly more humoristic way of explaining the point I am trying to make

Regards Mustardseed

[It seems logical to me however, that your model, (Phasing) your belief system or non belief system ................. is just another model to explain something we seem to not understand. What makes you right Frank ? or Adrian and whoever, and what makes Monroe (Robert) Bruce (i.e. The Mystics) etc wrong wrong. ...................Why should we believe a word of what you say?, are you not just another guy with all the answers another Mystic trying to sell his "charms" packaged in nice books fancy titles and catchy advertising, and as I asked in some other thread, how does this attitude of selling the truth look on your karmic records.]

In the first post my question was:


It seems logical to me however, that your model, (Phasing) your belief system or non belief system ................. is just another model to explain something we seem to not understand. What makes you right Frank ? or Adrian and whoever, and what makes Monroe (Robert) Bruce (i.e. The Mystics) etc wrong wrong. ...................Why should we believe a word of what you say?, are you not just another guy with all the answers another Mystic trying to sell his "charms" packaged in nice books fancy titles and catchy advertising, and as I asked in some other thread, how does this attitude of selling the truth look on your karmic records.

If you don't understand the question Major I can re write it in another form.

I am still waiting for Frank or Adrian to address this issue.

Regards Mustardseed

[rather than relying on what others have to say, it is necessary to adopt a solid, no nonsense, no frills approach. This might not suit everyone but it does suit a lot of people.........There are no degrees of knowledge or grades of initiation etc etc. It is this 'graded' approach that comes under fire as this hierarchical system is unfair and elitist and completely unnecessary. This is what the phasing model approach tries to get around by being no nonsense and telling people like it is, so that they can then go out and check for themselves, not just go by the rantings of some guy from the pulpit.]

Dear Doug

First let me ask you to define the difference between Robert Bruce Frank and Adrian. Did Robert not start the site......granted with Adrian help? Did he demand special initiation from you?

As far as I see he damn near posted his entire book on the site and poured out all that he knew to anyone that asked you included, or am I wrong.

You said ..... rather than relying on what others have to say, it is necessary to adopt a solid, no nonsense, no frills approach. This might not suit everyone but it does suit a lot of people.........There are no degrees of knowledge or grades of initiation etc etc.

It is this 'graded' approach that comes under fire as this hierarchical system is unfair and elitist and completely unnecessary. This is what the phasing model approach tries to get around by being no nonsense and telling people like it is, so that they can then go out and check for themselves, not just go by the rantings of some guy from the pulpit.

Dear Doug are you really so young that you do no realize that Frank and Adrian are using you to sell their books, I just cant believe that you do not see that. Maybe you in your pride (and I sense a somehow Leo vibration there) maybe you think that they are somehow "better", if so I say you are the new inquisition, take your best shot. Burn the heretics anyone who does not see it like I do and by the way the earth is still flat  

Whats your point my friend

Regards Mustardseed

PS still waiting to hear about the negs and spirit guides Frank how does that fit. Have you ever seen one, or have you ever seen a person possessed by one. In my opinion and I have seen a few, this would have to fit because its not in your mind or mine Frank, its out there, and its not always happening while you are on your bed or chair Phasing.

Hi guys
Yea I am not so sure I know what I am talking about either   ha no....just kidin'. Doug I find your post rather interesting. Let me ask you how I should understand it. Are you saying that Mystics like R.Bruce are trying to hide the truth and make people adhere to his secret society before he will let them in on the real McCoy, if you are talking about Robert Doug, you are at the very least silly .............he wrote the very books that gave many of us a possibility to live with what was happening to us.

If anyone has attempted to be no mystic in actual reality, yet still being a very mystical person in actual fact, I would say it was him. The fact is that Robert as many of us have had experiences that he has done his best to understand. His writings are still a great comfort to many Doug, and no matter what you cal him, he has a heart. You know I have my issues with certain things as well, no apologies, I do not see eye to eye with him on everything, but on enough things to recognize a kindred Spirit.

Mystic or not he is human he gets ticked has his issues as do we all, but I have reached out and felt him and he is real, I trust you on many things trust me on that one. Why bash a man who has helped so many, explain that to me . Whats in it for you Frank. ? Adrian?

I know I am not so easy to get along with either (right Nay   ) but I try. Everything you say guys I think about, I really do, yet there are white spots on your map, it does not fit completely.

Frank tell me have you ever had a conscious exit? can you recognize the scenario of watching your body slowly elevating out of your physical body. If you have, explain me again what is NOT real about that, indulge me.

I want friends good vibrations I do not want to leave a trail of contention. I have learned so  so much from you all about so much, learned to talk without getting too sensitive argue a point without negativity etc

I want the truth as I assume you all do, so as I said enlighten me.

Regards Mustardseed

Well interesting but that's not how I understand phasing, from my understanding it is just a enlargement of consciousness, no exit is possible. Enlighten me if I am wrong!!

Regards Mustardseed

My point exactly. .........It seems that Frank has just adapted a model that is more consistant with the life he or we or some of us live, a different style. Fashion changes all the time. I totally get that its more in synck with the way life is lived, however that does not nessesarily make it true, albeit more palatable. There is a difference.

In his model I would assume that he counts Negs a thing of the mind. I woulod like to  ask him that. Bruce presented a whole picture in which Projection was a part. How does that fit Frank, are negs a fiction of your mind, and while we are at it how about spirit guides and other spiritual phenomena, how does all that fit.

Regards Mustardseed

I wrote this post but posted it probably in the wrong place, I have some questions about the phasing model  for you all.

Ok Now I ain't no mystic, never claimed to be one. I would however like to ask all you guys to explain me something.

You say that Monroe Bruce and others who you now term Mystics were wrong, no such thing as out of the body. 3 years ago when you were all just experimenting and someone came with such a claim he was met with ridicule, but now you have the very convenient Phasing Model (thanks Frank) to lean to and now suddenly the "Mystics" are out and you, all the "more enlightened people" rule. Your model of explanation the latest and most progressive model is the "in" thing.

It seems logical to me however, that your model, your belief system or non belief system (which is just another form of belief albeit negative in nature), is just another model to explain something we seem to not understand. What makes you right Frank or Adrian and whoever, and what makes Monroe Bruce etc wrong wrong. If you have the holy grail please let us know. Why should we believe a word of what you say, are you not just another guy with all the answers another Mystic trying to sell his "charms" packaged in nice books fancy titles and catchy advertising, and as I asked in some other thread, how does this attitude of selling the truth look on your karmic records.

I am seriously interested in this debate and I am curious if you will take this debate or delete my post. I know that whoever posts here are not allowed to question or criticize the moderators- so lets see. What do you think Nay Gandalf and all you others ................. how are we doing on the pulse. ?? Still fighting for the truth??? or what.......

Regards Mustardseed
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Words.....there was a time when I believed in words!

Ok Now I ain't no mystic, never claimed to be one. I would however like to ask all you guys to explain me something.

You say that Monroe Bruce and others who you now term Mystics were wrong, no such thing as out of the body. 3 years ago when you were all just experimenting and someone came with such a claim he was met with ridicule, but now you have the very convenient Phasing Model (thanks Frank) to lean to and now suddenly the "Mystics" are out and you, all the "more enlightened people" rule. Your model of explanation the latest and most progressive model is the "in" thing.

It seems logical to me however, that your model, your belief system or non belief system (which is just another form of belief albeit negative in nature), is just another model to explain something we seem to not understand. What makes you right Frank or Adrian and whoever, and what makes Monroe Bruce etc wrong wrong. If you have the holy grail please let us know. Why should we believe a word of what you say, are you not just another guy with all the answers another Mystic trying to sell his "charms" packaged in nice books fancy titles and catchy advertising, and as I asked in some other thread, how does this attitude of selling the truth look on your karmic records.

I am seriously interested in this debate and I am curious if you will take this debate or delete my post. I know that whoever posts here are not allowed to question or criticize the moderators- so lets see. What do you think Nay Gandalf and all you others ................. how are we doing on the pulse. ?? Still fighting for the truth??? or what.......

Regards Mustardseed

very funny you should say that Ben I actually do. I am presently in a cellar room with 102 fever and needs some headache pills and electrolytes. Ha what are the chances of that.

Actually I spent a good deal of time in the country side but born and bread city. My experience are with spiritual things. You assumption that only things on the outside are harmful is also an assumption.

In the astral there appears to be no outside/inside each apparition, experience and manifestation has  to be tested on its own.

Regards Mustardseed

Glad you take my little poke in good humor. In my experience those who speak as do you have built their "Faith" on the notion that fear by definition in un-real a bluf and does not "really" exist.

This might be very well and work in certain circumstances but in others maybe not. You just wait till you happen to come face to face with "Old Red" the meanest bull west of............ well whatever     one day down on the farm. When that 800 kg of muscle and horns come charging down the side of your old barn because you forgot to close the fence.....you turn mystic mighty fast, and I tell you it will do you no good telling that bull he don't exist. Trust me.
I bet you get my point



Regards Mustardseed

ha let me guess, you are a city boy.......ehhh maybe around 20

Dear Frank and all

For a while I have been mulling things over and have a few questions, to ask. The answers seem to elude me and the whole issue seems to be a bit of a catch 22 so bear with me.

If we assume that the constructs people have been putting on the OBE/Phazing experience, be it a mystic or more traditional religious one are only constructs, to make the experience fathomable to the mind, what makes the phasing model "better" "correcter" or more accurate, as a tool to describe what actually happens. If they are all tools (constructs) to describe an experience that seem to have no real definition or explanation, using  the parameters of the known universe we all inhabit, would it not stand to reason that the phasing idea is just another construct?

I confuse myself so if you do not understand the above its OK.Ha

So far I must admit the phasing works at some level with me, yet the exit experience seems so real that my mind battle with just seeing this as a elevation of awareness. In this I mean that moving from one place to another as in a conscious exit, tricks my brain, and makes it difficult for me to cope with the idea of phasing. It seems so abstract, and the exit so "down to earth"

If we see all these experiences for what they are without getting tangled up in what and how they happen, the mechanics of it all if you will, it seems to become easier to focus on why they are happening. This may be a springing point for some as here the belief seem to have an effect. A religious person may look for "the path" and a non religious person may just wander around thinking or trusting it all to be a fiction, however real it may appear, none of them KNOW.

What is the deeper meaning to you guys, why are we having these experiences? Does the Phasing model have something on this? it seems the Mystic and religious people do but what say ye......

Regards Mustardseed

Yes, this is correct.

I often become so immersed in this area of consciousness that I totally forget I am projecting as opposed to being resident there. The place is just so physical-like it's unreal at times.

Yours,
Frank

Would that be dreaming? In dreams you do forget you are not really there, or does it happen after the entry to that Focus area?
Regards MS

Still waiting with baited breadth, for this most interesting and revealing conversation to turn into a OBE  related issue. I am sure you catch my drift Frank

Regards Mustardseed

PS there should be a tongue-in-cheek emoticon , since there is not this will have to do

Dear FH
I am not sure if you address me or someone in particular on the thread but for my own part I have actually read the Bible a lot, possibly more than most. I am not sure what you are trying to infer in your post could you be a Little more clear.

Regards Mustardseed

Still Frank,all things considered and my own inability or whatever, I did have an experience that I still struggle with, what do you think happened, as per my last post.

Regards Mustardseed

Dear Frank
First of all no offense taken, none at all. I think the thing about getting to me was in reference to your asking such an obvious question. That's all. Yes there do seem to be some limitations to this type of engagements, and I don't quite know how it works. For your information and anyone else as well, I do not take myself so seriously and certainly not the thread. I do honestly in prayer ask the questions and then I type what I get....that's about it. At times it gets a bit vague for me as well, ha . Somewhere in the thread there was a very interesting answer touching on this. It seemed to indicate that "God" works in a sort om symbiosis with my mind or spirit if you will and the one who asks the question. It seems more to have to do with my inability to receive any more than my mind can comprehend. I often wondered why I could never get direct answers to things like math problems or lotto numbers etc . I guess I just don't have the faith to ask those questions!!! .

On the other hand I do think that it is evident from the thread that the voice is very consistently the same throughout, and furthermore I seem to get bolder the longer I do it, so maybe there is a learning curve somehow as with so many other things.

All in all it is my impression that "God" is just sweetly and lightly bringing me along, with a lightheartedness and patience much the same as my image or understanding of "Him", based on my own Christian belief system. I still think I have come a long way from the very Fundamental belief system and outlook I have had years ago. Maybe there is still hope ha

Its all just interesting to me and in no way meant to be authoritative nor do I expect any adherence to the answers from me or anyone else. Just a small bird singing a lovely little tune in my ear, and besides that ....its fun.

Regards Mustardseed

Hi Frank

Well I asked him and ....well you can read what he had to say. Besides being cryptic as usual he did seem to admit to something......maybe it makes sense to you, more than me. Ha. He also asked me to ask you about the bits and bobs as you call it. I guess you can read it yourself.

Regards Mustardseed

CHANNELING GOD

You know something God........I have a few questions myself for you
Ha....he really got to you didn't he
got to me?.......you mean Frank
yup.....he got to you!
yes he did actually.....but not in a bad way, he seems such a nice guy
He is
so how about you help me out with my questions
you ask the question and I will see if I can answer.....yes you heard right I will see if I can answer
hey.....I thought you could answer anything, whats that all about
I have certain rules that I stick to, just to keep myself in check, mostly so no one will get hurt you included. You wont get it so don't ask about that stick to that other question
........OK well what is reality, is this life as we know it only a construct and how does it all work, with phasing etc
OK so let me get this right.....you would like me t tell you how the universe is screwed together, how I did it and how I continue to do it in other words give you the secret of eternity
well ......yes If it would be OK with you....I would like to know
OK.....but only if you can keep it a secret and not tell everybody
well this is a public forum so I guess others will read it
ha....no deal.  
but how do you want t do it then
Just kiddin Mustardseed, to be honest no can do. Think about what you are asking for, the secrets of the universe the kernel to the whole thing. I cant do that but I can do something else
OK well what can you do then
I can tell you where to start looking
well....ok
Think about it this way, the power and energy of the universe is like a mighty current, all the rivers of the world all the wind all the fire, its like nature. Everyone has a part in nature everyone experiences nature in some way and everyone has a construct from where to do this. The guy who has a nice house looks through the window into the garden from HIS constructION and observes, some want to get closer and live in a camper or a boat, they experience more of nature and are more in the midst of the elements. Some want to go and become one with nature and live in a tent, they are really at the mercy of the elements and some just decide to sleep under a tree making that their construct.Nature is force full, so are my truths and I  have made it so that they are best enjoyed and experienced from within a construct. No scientist would do much good without a frame work from where he could examine what he collects, so its all for your own good
but what about lets say a very fundamentalist construct
that's the whole point, some people forget about the rivers the forests and the wind and weather. They live TOTALLY with in a man made environment, they solidify and forget ME they freeze in their conformity and they say to themselves, this is our world we see the whether on TV stay inside when its bad and only expose ourselves to the nice things, a bit of sun on the veranda, Sunday morning service. We have the answers to how it works in our remote control
its all a lot.....but you say that we all have some kind of construct.....does that include Frank.....he seems to have a lot of answers
he is just a little closer to the reality of nature, he accepts the fact that he is only one in a line of explorers a tiny link in the chain, someone else will come after him and go further and understand more, but he should change his question
what do you mean
He should not only ask how......also why, as I said before so much of the answer is in the motive
well......I don't understand that so you will have to tell him that
just did
then there is the questions about the experience I had
ask Frank
ask Frank.....I just did he sent me to ask you, it would not be so nice to go back and say you didn't know, ....God
don't get fresh with me MS......ask Frank what he thinks

this is very embarressing......
I think it is funny......so does Frank.....good sense of humor he's got..........note to self, "create future explorers with good amount of humor, it works well"
Note to self.....come on this is getting too long anyway I gotta go
ok CYA

Thank you Frank. Ha that is a very interesting idea, and I will ask the question at the earliest time possible. What I meant was merely to describe that I was attempting to Phase at the time, but to some would be called exit, only terminology. How does Robert see this theory by the way. After all he is the one who I personally first heard use the expression "exit", and he also writes extensively about it using this terminology?

I am starting to understand better the phasing concept, and so far it has been a very interesting ride. Fits very well with his attempt to explain Reincarnation, in his essay on the subject.

Don't know why I never thought of asking "my God friend" as you call it , sometimes the simplest solutions escape our attention. I wonder if we as humans are somehow conditioned by the mind to lay aside simple solutions in favor of the more complex ones. Ha

In any case my question remains. I have on several occasions been able to access or being accessed by my wife, though we are an ocean apart. Could this be telepathy, if so what focus would it be. I suppose I am looking for a down to earth "use" of the whole experience. The personal growth that it brings with it is obvious, but is there areas of this life, this awareness, in which the experience can be useful. I read Edgar Cayce and am very interested in healing etc. Where do you think this occur.

Another question is that I have on maybe a dozen times been approached by people I know in this life, who have told me their innermost secrets almost as if in therapy, maybe in focus 21, what Robert calls Astral sight. Very chocking experiences. Is it possible to help someone else while in this focus level, who is present in only the first focus levels, sort of a retrieval but with people who are all ready alive and active here.

Thanks for taking the time, its very much appreciated

Regards Mustardseed

Is it any different from people building whole buildings to supposedly house an invisible God

CHANNELING GOD

There were some questions, very good questions actually about the different channelers and why what they channel is sometimes different or inconsistent
OK so let us talk about that then,
Well why is that
There are many different reasons for this. Channeling prophesying or hearing from Me is not so easy for some it all depends
depends on what
The interference
interference by who..... or what
Ha ...mostly by people themselves
you mean people get mixed up
yes...sometimes people mix up my voice with their own thoughts or their own logic.Pride arrogance and self righteousness also play a role. I am neither proud arrogant nor am I always conceived to mortal men. My truths are often revealed to those poor in spirit, it all depends on the channel, the purity and the desire to hear from ME and that of putting their own thoughts away. Most people have a hard time doing that, this is why so many should learn to study to be quiet,my will not theirs my message not theirs. Imagine a large painting, if one focus in on only a corner a detail it looks as if it is a different scene all together, so in order to hear from me you must often come back several times, ask again, hear again, open minded and without preconceived ideas, after a while a larger picture will form.
OK that sounds interesting, actually I have had that happen to me several times, I think I know what you want me to do and that I have heard your voice but to be sure I ask again
Yes this thread is a good example of the greater picture
what about the fundamentalists and their views
People like to think they own me, .......they have me all figured out, and the rules are clear ....and everyone likes to be on  a winning team. It is so easy that way, being saved becomes a club, a physical thing almost keep these rules say these words judge all others, but my truth runs deeper than this
so these folks are ....well what are they
they are learning and growing like you all are, learning that my truth cannot fit in a box and a building cannot hold my spirit for what building will they build for me , Heaven is my throne and earth my footstool and I do not live in buildings temples made by man, but I dwell in the secret places in the heart.
so some of those fundamentalists.......they are wrong
some will come to me and say in your name we did cast out demons did great works so give us our reward and in that day I will say hey back off you missed the point.....you did not do it for love, there will be weeping at that time when people realize how much more important things they could have done, had they only loved
and the thing about Jesus.....what are people to be saved from
themselves. When all is counted and a life is measured when the last day is at hand and the scroll is opened you will judge yourself, I judge no man, at least not at that point,at the end of a life a man is judged by the very life he lived. Being saved is having faith in this truth that I AM, love anyone who loves knows me and anyone who does not love knows me not....its that simple. Through this love, MY love, and not yours man can connect with me and in doing so transcend his own inability, the human condition, for the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak
is that it
ha well part of the picture.....as I said its a big picture. The secret is in the heart and in the motive. The best and most perfect man who has lived supposedly a life for me can die and have a lot to learn and the simplest humble weakest man can die and go straight to my presence, for to whom much has been given of him shall be much required and to the one with the lesser gifts less is expected ......another part of the picture
sounds a bit complicated to be
well think about it and by the way get back to work....I have a ride for you....someone I want you to meet
OK ....let me close down bye God
till later my friend