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Maybe you did hold your breath without noticing...

quote:I dont mean ask it to leave, I mean MAKE it leave.

I did understand what you meant but... I still miss the HOW???  I tried everything, love, light, energy, intent, etc...  does nothing!  Maybe you are just way more powerful than I am; or I am just weak; or my negs are stronger...

A crude example that happens too often: A woman will try to make contact with my crotch (genitals?).  I am VERY sensitive there!  If she gets there, I will "take off" in 2 seconds (if you see what I mean) and maybe release a lot of energy, and I will wake up...
What am I supposed to do?  Ignore her?  She will get there.  "Make" her leave?  She smiles and continue to come closer.  The only thing that worked so far is to catch her hand and block her...  I am sure that there must be some better solution but I did not find it...

Other attacks I experienced were: some kind of VERY STRONG and BOTHERING energetical "tickels" (they put both of their hands on the sides of my ribs and zapppppppp); and also some kind of bite on the left side of my neck (ala vampire).  First time, some thing popped right behind me and in less than a seconde bit me there and I immediately was paralyzed, and felt very cold and weak...  After that, other things would "play" with this area (where I have been bitten), but it was more annoying/bothering than painfull...

And to come back to the weapon, I did not mean to say that the weapon had some power (to hurt/destroy) by itself; I meant that, by choping them to pieces, they were no more an annoyance (since they could not move anymore).

Oh, and personaly, I am not into the good vs evil stuff...  I just think that these things are just trying to eat (my energy), like we eat animals/vegetables...  So, they are as much evil as we are when we kill our food.  But, who knows, I might change my mind later.

I don't want to start an US/oil/Iraq/Afghanistan discussion here but: Iraq is the 2nd largest oil reserve; and the US is craving for more oil; they are so dependant on OPEC, South America. They deseperatly tried to drill in Alaska, etc...  Even in the US, Bush changed the law to allow more drilling in some protected areas...

Before the war: the US could not buy any from Iraq.
After the war: the US now controls the production; they can do whatever they want.

And a quick one about Afganisthan: The talibans refused to let an oil pipe go through their country.  What did the US do as soon as they crushed the talibans...?  They built the pipeline.

I could go on with Somalia, which local governement was opposed to some big oil companies.  Tada, here comes the US!  Let's drill!  "Black Hawk Down" movie, sponsored by the US army...  What a bad joke.

What do you expect from a governement that has personal interests in oil, military supplies and reconstruction...?  I really hope Kerry will change all that!

Ah, US only...  I hope they release it on DVD!

quote:but the 'like attracts like' phenomenon that supports my former assertion seems to be the most plausible consequence for putting up a fight; that is, agression attracts agression.

Hum... personaly, I consider myself to be quite peaceful...  as most of my friends think.  I am all for finding Astral friends, but can't find any for some reason.  Maybe I must look like the perfect victim...

quote:If you want rid of a Neg, just send it away

Easier said than done...  I tried many time and they don't seem to be willing to comply, or even care (a bit like showing a crucifix to some Vampire; he will have a good laught)...

quote: You can just walk away or wake up so to speak to be rid of any astral agressors.

That's ok for one night, but not every night...

quote:The best weapon on the astral is the intelligence of the person projecting.

Damn, guess I am screwed... []

I am open to any suggestions to get rid of these negs peacefully...  But, so far, none of the "walk away" or "ignore them" worked for me.  And I must be too weak to just "send them away" either...

quote: I wonder if reading could in fact be a reliable OBE OR LD test.

Not for me.  None of the "light switch", "digital clock", or "book" tests do work for me...  Most of the time they are stable...

quote: By unreal obes i mean obes that only happens in the mind of the subject. Obes that didnt happened. Illusions, dreams.

Now, who said that dreams are just illusions from the mind...?  Maybe they are, maybe not.  I personaly don't know.

Cool, that's the second time I hear that cheese helps.  But, I do eat a lot of cheese (Ahhh the tasty French stinky cheeses!!!) and I don't have that many APs...  So, i guess it still depends on people; or on the type of cheese maybe. [|)]

quote:Why are people in Spain AND the UK ticked off? Because they knew that the UK or Spanish governments throwing their support in with America would make them targets for Islamic extremists.

While I agree that people are ticked off because the governements were not listening to them, I think that, it is (at least was) not out of fear of becoming a target that most Europeans were against attacking Iraq...  It was more about the weak/false/fake reasons Bush/Blair used to "authorize" an attack on Iraq.  At least that was my and my friends/family opinion...  Especialy when you saw that the first thing they did was to secure and restart the oil production and ship it to the US...  BTW, thousands of Iraqis civilians died under the so-called "chirugical" bombs.  But it is supposed to be ok, since it is in the name of freedom!  [xx(]

Did you try to walk away or ignore them...?  Did it work?

Personaly, I tried both.  Sure I can "walk" away or project somewhere else, but they are chasing me.  As soon as I stop, they're back!  So, it's constantly running away until I wake up.

Now, ignoring them...  you still feel what they are doing to you...  Sure, it's easy to ignore the guys who just stand in front of you screaming "Boooo boooo!"  But what about those who do some weird/bothering energetical stuff on you, or sexual stuff...?  It's not like they care about you ignoring them.  At least that's my experience...

And, for the weapon stuff, I tried a bit and it did not always work.  It's not that they get hurt, it's that I chopped them so much that they are no threat anymore since they are in pieces...  [|)]  But some guys are stronger than me, and I feel like a 2 years old baby fighting an adult...

So, I would say: try and see what works for you...  I guess some people are more "yummy" than others... []

I did not mean to say that the new governement decided the withdrawal after the bombing; I meant to say that, because of the bombing mess, another political party (which indeed is against attacking Iraq) was elected (at least that's what the press is thinking; you cannot be 100% with elections).  So, in some non direct way, the bombing pushed the withdrawl from Iraq by weighting on the elections to not re-elect the "pro-US" party...

One question is: did the terrorists do it on this date to mess up with the elections, or did they do it because, as said in the press, it was 911 days after 9/11...

Here's the result in Spain:

The terrorists said they bombed Spain because Spain helped the US in Irak.  Most of the Spanish population was against the war in Irak.  The former political party in power, expected to win, lost the elections ( mostly because of the ETA / Alqueda controversy).  Now, the new governement in power said they will withdraw Spanish troops from Irak.

Sadly, looks like the terrorists got what they wanted...

Hum... terrorist won't get what they want by sending flowers to governments...  They want to pressure governments to do this and that, to leave them alone, etc...  Governments will never agree; so terrorists have to go after the population as a mean of pressure.  The more the death toll, the stronger the pressure on the governement.

I am not saying they are right to do what they do of course... I am just saying that is is sadly logical.

You could almost say that going on strike is some kind of very light terrorism...  If you go on strike and it does not bother anybody, it won't change anything; everybody will ignore you.  If you block transportation for millions of people, you will get a lot of attention (good and bad) suddenly...

Right now, in France, a group called "AZF" asked the french governemnt to pay like 5+ millions $$$ or they will blow up some trains...  And officialy the governement is going to pay them.

Hi Roxy,

I also had some "visits" in some weird transe state.  My problem is that I cannot really see (as you can in a dream/projection), and I cannot really speak either.  So there is no possible communication with these things (which is frustrating)...  I cannot move a lot, except my "astral" arms.  I usually "wresttle" with them (more like you would with a friend) and they endup "disolving" or me waking up...

What about you?  Can you move?  If so, did you try to push him back?

In my case, most of these experiences were "non-intrusive", meaning that they are just more or less crawling on me, sniffing my face once, etc...  Basicaly, trying to scare me.  Only once a "woman" (I prefer to think that it was a woman [|)]) did some sexual stuff, and I made her stop.  And another time one thing crawled up to my head and did something (intense) to my forehead, and I decided to go somewhere else and projected...

Also, in that state, I am very close to the physical...  Sometimes I try to move in the astral and end-up moving physicaly.

PS: I would avoid putting too much info about yourself on the net; you never know what kind of psycho might use it to reach you...

I looked at your links and I don't come to the same conclusion as yours...

On a side note, I was so disapointed with Gandalf in the LOTR movies...  watching the powerful wizard swing a sword and hit some monsters on the head with his staff instead of casting some nice spells...

While you are still searching, why don't you "invent" one...?  Just try some home-made auto-suggestions like, when you get to the trance state, repeat over and over in your mind: "as soon as I say Kartofel, my brainwave will go back to this frequency."; etc...  Be creative!  []

Personaly, I think that I can recall it with my body...  I don't know how to describe it but I just intend it and my body "knows" how to get back to trance.

Or maybe just order those monroe CDs: http://www.hemi-sync.com/shop/customer/home.php?cat=8
Or use this one: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7718
Or try to make your own: http://www.bwgen.com/

Where did you hear about this anchoring technic?

Mostly same as Kristina.  Once I got some rain, but it did not last long and I am pretty sure I did not feel any cold...

Personaly, I think a lot of it is the mind trying to create a "perfect" copy of the physical body.  But that's just my opinion...

quote:Nagual: sorry and thanks! - sorry for my mistake (word "true" instead of "false") and thanks for showing me that mistake. I have corrected it in an edit. BTW: have ever seen any "unusual" thing that has make you believe in obes? Do you believe in your obes?

Don't be sorry!  I did not see any mistake.  "True" and "false" can be both both corrects; it just depend whose ideas you were refering to (your idea that it's fake or people's ideas that it's true)...  [|)]  I was just trying to say that "What if" games dont help much.

I had plenty of "unusual" experiences, but none in the RTZ.  I might (pure speculation) have been in the RTZ a few times (when I have my weird encounters with some "things" crawling on me or my bed, but I cannot see or hear anything in those states; I can only sens the energy...

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quote:Just suppose for some moments that all these are ideas are true...what do you think about this?!

Before that, let's just suppose for some moments that all these ideas are false... what do you think about this?!

We won't go far with suppositions... [|)]  Are you really wondering if it is real or not, or are you just trying to convince people with suppositions that it's all fake and see how they react?

Personaly, I still don't know which one to choose; so I don't choose.  I agree that the mind can be very powerful/tricky.  But there's one thing so far that point to "it's true".  I experienced (and I am sure others too) the body separation sensation with all the steps involved before reading about it in other people's stories.  It would be an amazing coincidence that all the tricky minds out there would use the exact same steps to trick us...

The next step would be to have an OBE in the RTZ and modify or observe something from there...  Your red car example is not good; you can always wonder if your subconscious did not record the fact that the car was there before; or that you heard and recognized the noise of it's engine; or etc....  A better test would be to modify something or oberve something you never saw or something unusual (that does not repeat) that happened while you were projecting; and then verify it.

To answer your question, even if it does not say much, I supposed I would be quite disapointed if it was all in my mind...

But, I am a bit like you too; I also tend to think that many so called facts became facts after people blindly/wrongfuly preached the words of others without verifiying/understanding them...  It happens in many disciplines and will continue too.  There's not much you can do about it...  The only thing you can do is to keep a clear/neutral/open mind.

As I said in another post; as long as there are several more or less opposing "facts"/theories for one single truth, you can/should not rely on any of them.  Sad, but that's the only way to go (for me)...

Not sure if it helps but you can find a list of frequencies here:
http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/r/rtulloch/soundfrequency.html

You could try to link the freqs to musical notes or colors but you it won't for the low freqs (the most interesting ones)...

I think the "best" is to just do it (lowering your brainwaves) over and over and try to get a "feeling" at each level...  And then, just bring back that feeling to get back to that freq.

If you're rich, you can even buy an EGG biofeedback thing to check the frequency.  I would love to get one of these to be able to test what techniques works best.

quote:I couldn't sleep tonight, so I was watching some tv, and surfing the net

What???  You watched some TV and surfed the Net instead of meditating and trying to AP???  []

PS: I love your signature!  Do you think I could put this in my resume...?  []

I might be wrong but I don't think you will be able to do it by just reading some websites...  Try to find a good TaiChi teacher maybe.  By good I mean one that can demonstrate it; not one that can talk for hours on the theory behind it...

quote:Another thing I'm sometimes afraid to try things for myself for the implied dangers something's have

You have to take more or less calculated risks in life...  You can watch the world through your window/TV, in the safety of your home; or you can take the risk and go outside!  Just crossing a street is risky...  On the other hand, don't run across the street with your eyes closed...
You/everyone will make some errors, will have some kind of accidents...  It's part of the game!

quote:and then I'm still stuck whit believing or not whiteout knowing.

Just put it aside until you will feel strong enough to test it yourself.  And maybe you will decide that these changelings, wether they exist or not, are not worth your time/energy anyway.

Hell, I still don't know wether my OBEs are "real" or just in my mind...  Can't wait to have one in the RTZ!

Same with me...  I became a little lost too, as soon as I realised so many so called "truths" out there were just theories.  And most of them  incompatible.  Some say white; others say black; others say green...  Who's right?  Who's wrong?  Who's purposefully lying?  And they ask you to blindly believe.  So, in which "color" should we believe???  White?  Black?  Red?  Blue?

How many of these "truths" have been proven wrong after some months/years/centuries?  How many times did I read "It is like that.  It's proven scientificaly!"; followed later by "In fact, we did not notice this or that and so we changed our mind...  The new truth is blablabla".  Etc...

For me, there are no truths; only theories...  Some seems to work (until maybe proven wrong).  Others don't work.  The problem is in the interpretation of an event.  You can have 10 people witness something and get 10 different "truths"/theories/descriptions.  An example I use often is when people thought that the sun was going around earth.  At that time it was true!  They saw it every day!

So, in the end, you have one truth and hundreds of more or less different interpretations...  Which one to choose?  I personaly decided to choose none.  Or let's say that I pick a few things (mostly technics), test them as much as I can, and I will make up my own theories (only if I can!), while hoping to be right.  It is slow, and I am pretty sure I won't get very far; but it's the price to pay for "freedom" I guess.

And nothing proves that we will ever (be able to) understand what's out there...

Many times I have to "fight" to get higher...  It takes me quite a lot of concentration/intent/will at first.  Then, something changes in me and it becomes almost natural; even too fast sometimes.

Last week, I was having a very light (like 5% lucid) lucid dream.  I was in the middle of some hills.  I decided to take off, but I was as usual stuck at 20 feet off the ground.  I insisted, but I was tensing my legs (it even felt like I was tensing my physical legs).  I tried to relax them and work more with my intent and... pffff!  I took off like crazy.  I was looking down and it was more like zooming out (with some kind of "1 second pause" in the middle.  After 5 seconds, earth was like a dot.  Then I zoomed in on the moon, but it ended up not looking like what it should have...