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A "stupid" question: is it worth the energy spent...?

Another one: if you create by example a sword to chop a few negs... is it considered a thought-form?  If so, will there be a problem if you keep using it from times to times for a long time?

I would suggest posting a picture...   It might help.

Why not just look on Internet or buy a book on the subject...?
There is plenty of information out there.

quote:You can't go into actual OBE while in the dream state

Don't know about WHILE but you can at least FROM a dream state...
For me, it works like this:
1. Dream...
2. Suddenly back in my bed; but not exactly awake*.
3. Immediatly after, I get the body separation sensation.

* I feel like I am in my real bed but I feel more my energetical body than my physical one.  And my mind is as "sharp" as when I am fully awake.

I've been a few times to other planets but they ended up looking like fake/plastic; dream like...  But I've never tried from the RTZ since I've never been in the RTZ.  Certainly makes a huge difference.

quote:lol i dont think they can "steal" ur astral body.

Some people think they can under certain conditions (see Castaneda's stuff).

quote:ive always thought that the aliens would be more advanced than us too... did they have like all this cool techonogy and stuff? lol

For me, being advanced is not necessary related to technology.  They can be advanced "energeticaly"; meaning that they can control energy a lot better than we do.  No need of geek gadgets, flashing lights and buzzing sounds... Reminds me of these old sci-fi movies!  [|)]

From what I heard/understood, The Akashic Records is not exactly a place; it's more a "state of mind".  And the knowledge is not about people only; it's about everything.

So, you don't go into some kind of library and pickup books on such and such subjects.  In that "state of mind", you can access direct knowledge.  You just know.

Now, the mind might be tempted to interpret that knowledge into visions/sounds/etc...  But it's superflous.

Symphony for the devil
New Market Films / Icon Production
John Debney, who composed the music for "The Passion of the Christ," says he did battle with Satan while scoring the flick.

Debney had written music for a number of movies such as "Liar, Liar," "Spy Kids," and "I Know What You Did Last Summer" — but he says he was visited by the devil while writing the score for the film about the last hours of Jesus Christ.

"I had never before subscribed to the idea that maybe Satan is a real person, but I can attest that he was in my room a lot and I know that he hit everyone on this production," Debney said, according to a lengthy interview that ran on Assist News Service, a Christian news agency.

Debney claims that Satan's image kept appearing on his computer screen while he was trying to compose music. "The first time it happened, it scared me," he said. "Once I got over the initial shock of that, I learned to work around it and learned to reboot the computers and so I would start talking to him. . . . The computers froze for about the tenth time [one] day and it was about nine o'clock at night and so I got really mad and I told Satan to manifest himself and I said, 'Let's go out into the parking lot and let's go.' It was a seed change in me. I knew that this was war. I am not a physical person, but I was really angry on this occasion."

Debney's spokesman confirms to The Scoop that the composer did, indeed, say those things.

quote:i have been known to set a blaze a theater or two when mad.

Taken from your bio...  Hum...  moderators are supposed to be... hum... moderate.  No?

Congratulation! []

At the vibrations step, you can either wait... or force yourself out with the ROPE technique or any other technique like vizualising yourself floating above your physical body...  You can try to roll to your sides.  You can try to use your astral arms to push yourself out.  You can just intend to go out (of course easier said than done).  Maybe you can ask for help (works for some people).

Have fun!

You can even do it in text!  [|)]

API = Astral Pulse Island
http://www.astralpulse.com/locale/

I am pretty sure it's a real island where "LA FORET MAUVE" added a pyramid.

quote:The original post proved that belief in your self to pass through objects is not enough to actually pass through them.

Hum... as I am sure you will agree, believing is not black or white; on or off...  People can say that they believe, and still have some doubts.
Again, risu used "should".  That means he is doubting.

And, again, I was talking about my personal experience.  For me, I don't really have a body (maybe it is a fake built by my conscious) and the so called objects looks fake too (I can make them appear, disapear, go through).  It just take some intent.  In fact, the more lucid I am, the less odd things I can do (maybe conscious > subconscious).  And of course, the less lucid I am, the easier it is to do crazy stuff.

I am not saying that the vibrational stuff theory does not exist; maybe it does; maybe not...  I just say that I don't need another theory.  I prefer direct experience.

Personaly, I don't need any vibrational state theories...  I just need to convince myself that I can do it.  Or, more like fighting my belief (trained for years in the physical realm) that I cannot do it.

It's the same with flying and any other unusual task that goes against what your mind has been trained to think is impossible.

I will come back to my "we don't have a body" comment.  I can make my body disapear.  So why would my hand bump into an "object" when in fact I have no real hand?  You bump into it because you expect to bump into it.  What about the object?  I can make objects disapear too.

Each time I got out, I would almost immediately "travel" through the 'void" to some other places.  I never saw myself in my bedroom.

As I understand, the controversy is not really about religion, but more about Jews being the bad guys in the movie and the violent scenes (almost sadistic for some people)...

I agree with the others.

quote:I know I should be able to move through physical objects, so why can't I?

Saying "should be able to" means you are doubting.
It is just a question of trust/intent/belief...
Try not to think as you arrive in front of the object/wall/window; just go through it!  You don't even have a "body"; you're a point of consciousness (at least it's my experience).
Many times, when I want to quickly "travel" to some other "place", I just dive into the ground and off I go!
So, don't think; just act!

Hi Mariah,

quote:how long do you think it will take me to learn and get down?

Is that important?  It's going to take... some time...  Maybe an hour; maybe years...  Are you already ready to give up if it seems too long for you?

quote:ive gathered a hwole bunch of info

Good, start reading it.
Most of the answers are in this forum.

Good luck!

That is very nice of you to invite us, but sadly I cannot afford any trip abroad right now...  I need to find a job first...  [B)]

Hope you guys who can make it will have a great time!

Attracting people is good but, keeping them is as much as important...  If a website is good, word of mouth should do the rest.

While information is more important than the look, start by correcting the spelling ("to" instead of "too" by example) and maybe try to keep a uniq look and feel across pages.

I think your website needs something more than links to games/forums/chats...

Good luck!  It takes quite some time to setup a successful website.

I thought about becoming vegetarian but, in the end, I don't see why.

For me, animals/insects/plants are equal.  Once, I heard a vegetarian monk said that it was better to eat fish rather than meat because fish had less consciousness than by example a cow, so it was not as bad for HIS (the monk's) karma...  I found that sooooo selfish.

Then, some people think that it's better to eat plants because they kind of don't suffer as animals do...  How do they know?  I heard some scientific study that demonstrated (by experiment, not theory) that plants could kind of feel...  They just don't have a mouth to scream.  What's worse; we eat most plants/fruits "alive"...

Now, from a diet point of view, I agree that too much meat is not good.  And I don't trust meat anyway; especially US meat full of hormones and antibiotics.  So, in the end, I eat the equivalent of a small steak once a week; either at once or spread on a few days.

While some animes are great/funny/inspiring, some are really... hum... kind of sick...  You know like pre-teen girls enslaved and raped by demons, etc...  Just watching the cover of these books/DVDs is sad enough.  [xx(]

From my experience, it's the same...  I would even expand it to lucid dreams (as opposed to only WILDs)...  The only difference I could point out is that AP/OBEs usually give a higher level of lucidity... until you loose it or wake up.

Almost... 1 small quake happened on the border of France/Switzerland/Germany and a bigger one in algeria...

Maybe you could try to get some feet massages...