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You reached 2012 on a post which happens to be about 2012....That shouldn't normally happen in a normal universe.
Someday I gotta create an universe that behaves.

Talking of physical plane only, infinite particles means infinite energy and infinite expense, which is absurd.
So your point remains valid IMO. But perhaps we dont understand finite and infinite.
Now, I really dont know if !p is the right number and if the dimensions exists on their 'own', but probbly we'd stop seeing everything in terms of numbers when we evolve out of it and it will all become, say 'metafinite'(?)

Anyone else had any odd stuff happen as a result of investing energy into something in this way?

Yes, I'm dead sure of this phenomenon.
I can feel very easily if someone else had used my PC. It gets a distinct 'alien-ness' imprinted on it. It gave a lot of trouble when it was shared in my family (especially with someone in particular), like lot of bad sectors, heating probs and h/w failures.
Then I locked it up with a bios password, and wont let anybody touch it...and it runs fine.
Also, I've seen some people can make machines go faulty just by touching it.
OTOH, machines start running magically better in presence of a few.
'Green hand effect' I guess.

Your prime builder is still dogma.

Well, let it be, I mentioned that just to introduce the 'spiritual Darwinism' stuff. I guess everybody in modern world has got over it.

"2=3" is logical

That's right. Logic has no relation to truth or falsity.

What is self-negation?

Hmmm..you need to dig a bit into Existentialism. I've only read J P Sartre, and found it very interesting. Basically being(which is pure positivity, its all that is) negates itself to create 'nothingness', after which the things start rolling.

what is a dimension made of?

Good question, but a dimension only describes the degrees of freedom something can possess [in mathematics]. Consciousness has infinite degrees of freedom but it must restrict itself to a few to make some sense. Else we'd become a multidimensional ball of chaos. More evolved it becomes, it can organize in more dimensions.

My guess is that during telekinesis, you are exercising your ability of existing in more degrees of freedom.

I am unsure if any infinite beings could or do exist.

Well, I don't say 'infinite'. Gods are very much limited, else why will evolution continue? I've not witnessed anyone 'higher' yet, perhaps they are not interested in me Just like I'm not interested in the activities of ants crawling in my backyard.

understatement

Agree.

beavis, that was your 2012 th post, just noticed.
This reality is clearly inconsistent, more so when human consciousness is involved in it.
There were experiments on it being biased. (Like the one when a group tried to see if the bread falls on its buttered side more often)

Just kidding...

The elders here on astralpulse want to discourage such a cheap means of contact as chat. This will halt your progress. They want you to learn to AP and contact anyone you need to, on astral.
This is for the good of all.


PS: you can add someone in your buddy list on msn etc and easily cheat.

Hello,
Of all the things on earth and heaven, why would I concentrate upon seeing a particular time ?  
And moreover I never do it consciously, so no question of concentration.
In fact if I try to do it consciously(i.e. try to guess the time), its never xx:11 or xx:12.
Hope I got your point correctly.

how can a soul be built?

That would need a builder. Which in turn would need its own builder...and so on. You end up with a paradox if you follow this path.
Then you can assume the existence of a prime builder, who need not be created and came into being on its own. But that would contradict your own statement that its a bit too much complex, for that to happen.

Well this (very solid) argument must be a familiar one, as its often stated against the existence of god and creation of lifeforms, by those who support Darwinism. So why not extend the evolution principles to spiritual.

I propose that a very primitive and simple form of consciousness exists in the whole of the being, by the very nature of being. So being is consciousness itself. It is so simple that its not even self-conscious and can't experience anything. Slowly [not in our timeframe] it evolved by a natural quality of self-negation and through Darwinian processes and could express itself in forms of itself (matter, we got).

These multidimensional material forms grew more and more complex and some of them could become self-conscious.....souls, we have here.
The souls continued to evolve and could direct their own evolution, which speeded up the whole thing and the souls could become conscious of higher and higher dimensions, which were of course their own content.

Some of them are so evolved that they could create whole universes (which are they themselves expressing themselves) and mimic the evolution in an accelerated manner by incarnating their own parts.....gods, we arrive at.

The parts are obviously us...the living beings in their various states of evolution. Just like the image formed by a complete hologram is crisp and bright, but the image formed by one of its smaller part is dull and blurry, our consciousness remains of an inferior nature.

There are many-many souls stacked up on this ladder at various levels of evolution. Some of us would become gods and start the process over. Evolving more and more. But there remains a possibility that we are not parts of some greater soul, but evolved out of primordial stuff and are on our way of becoming a god.

Someday we'll create our own universes and souls.

Above goes well with the 'Disc' theory I read here and many other 'spiritual facts'. Or may be its my over-imagination at work.

No, the clocks are running as usual, nobody sets them.
I happen to look at time, and its mostly xx:11.
Btw, I dont do any kind of serious energy work. Hopefully its clear now
[For more info just google 11:11]

Some examples :

http://www.worlditc.org/c_04_s_bridge_25.htm
http://www.worlditc.org/c_07_senki_b_09.6.htm
http://www.worlditc.org/c_04_s_bridge_23.htm
http://www.worlditc.org/c_04_s_bridge_24.htm

These are all actual scientists and the messages are straightforward and meaningful (unlike the nonsense that you see here on this forum)

Visions...hmm
Only a handful of guys in this world know how to detect them or even interpret them.

Once they succeed in putting some text files in the comp (which they did, as reports say), it should be easy to mail it across or make a post in a forum.
After all clicking the mouse a few times (by supernatural means, they dont need to know the protocols ) should not be harder than manipulating the hard disk directly.
Or once they could call someone on phone and speak to  him through voice, data should be a simple matter.

Pod_3....you got it wrong. Sorry if it was a bit cryptic.
By XX I meant any number between 00 to 23.
That is the hours in a day.
So e.g I keep seeing 08:12, 21:11 etc

Hi
Sounds too far fetched, but is there any possibility of contacting non-physical beings via Internet?
The media though which they(spirits etc) can contact include -
1. Human mediums.
2. Simple objects (pendulum/boards/sticks, but a form of channeling)
3. Radio waves
4. Telephone
5. TV
6. Computer

Very impressive list indeed. (for examples of these communications please visit http://www.worlditc.com )
So did they got their hands on a www or smtp/pop server yet?
I heard a few stories about people getting anomalous mails. But I get 20 such mails daily and they go staright to the junk-mail folder without my knowing
Are there any serious examples of a contact through Internet? Thanks

Its been more than 4 years now. Still I'm puzzled.
A brief history:
Chance: At first when it started, I barely noticed it. Most often knocked it off as a matter of chance. And forgot.
Curious: The frequency of its occurrence grew beyond a statistical chance, and I was curious, still never took it seriously.
Amazed: It was amazing as I somehow knew the time subconsciously only, never intensionally looked at my watch when this happened. Started noting its peculiarities.
Worried: It didn't go away, once I was worried...I'm going insane, perhaps some weird sort of OCD gripped me. I made all clocks/watches of my house randomly faster or slower by a few minutes. (I still keep my PC clock 1 hr+some random mins faster). It seemed to vanish.
Irritated: No, it came back fast. I thought of a presence which reminds me somehow (scary when you are alone in night...). Tried to get rid of it, couldn't ask for help, as I thought they would laugh at me. Irritation followed.
Discovery: By chance(?), I found a similar experience posted by someone on Usenet. Much relief and amazement. Later found 1000's of accounts....that shared same story. No scientific cause found, mostly new-age-ish BS.
Connection: But I found a connection (roughly suggested by the BS ), it started almost at the same time I started learning about spiritual things.

The puzzle is getting deeper and darker, on some days it happens almost every hour !!.... No exaggerations here....

Can anyone throw some light here? Why XX:11 or XX:12 ....?Thanks

(I did read about it on the net, about which I'll post later)

Giant spiders/bees/scorpions/cockroches....
Hallucinations can appear 'real' while they are occurring, especially after a good nites sleep.

Feelings such as air being sucked from my abdomen to my throat area really quick, and then I'd let it out in a steady, strong stream. I also felt a lot of pressure by my neck and in my head.

recoverer:
Your symptoms indicate a shallow relaxation state. Your will and intension is forcing the separation when your body is not yet ready. In other words, your input/output connections are still somewhat active.

This happens a lot to me. IMO you simply abort the attempt, after which you may find yourself in a mild paralysis. Then check if you are feeling sleepy, if yes, continue, but mostly you'll be wide awake, so get up after a few minutes (you may feel shaky) and try when the time is 'right'.

There may be other reasons but I'm only aware of the one above.

How do they create an object on the astral plane that says You Are Dead??

I don't understand the question. What object?

I feel its very important to ascertain the validity of AP phenomenon.
For my personal convenience, I broke the problem down in these stages -
1. The pre-oobe symptoms (vibes etc).
2. The 'separation' or switching to an altered state.
3.  The 'travel' or the actual experience.
4. The 're-entry' or switching back to normal state.

So far I'm convinced that the points 1,2 and 4 are very real; almost 'objective'. They are very much consistent, across multiple experiences and multiple individuals. So no chances of doubt for them. We have something here.

Actual drama starts at stage -3, and as is obvious no proof is available. There are claims, which are mostly of a 'personal' nature and unintentional, i.e. the person did not arrange an experiment beforehand, he just hit it. (some NDE accounts, although valid, fall under this one)

Those who arranged an experiment, to rule out coincidences and frauds, could not repeat it. Which is unfortunate, because it neither proves nor disproves the stage-3.

For me, the grey band of stage-3 ranges from seemingly real to totally lucid-dream like, there are no black n white ends yet. If it is true, but still cant be proven by current scientific methods, it'll give birth to a more advanced science. (see Godel's views regarding logical truth).  There are no doubt that 'something' is going on, and people are studying it since centuries and have left tons of information about it, cross confirmed by others.

could they have more control about whether they live or die in a near death experience??  

They'd surely have more control in oob state.
Whether they can choose to leave it forever, actually depends on the condition of the physical body. If the body is still strong enough it will pull the person back eventually. And it also depends on the doctors, they'll make sure that the person gains consciousness, you cant control them
If the body fails, you are gone anyway, even if you want to come back, and its not an 'NDE' anymore.

In addition,
I recommend a very good site on Instrumental Tanscommunication
http://www.worlditc.com

http://www.cgtalk.com

Don't listen to what psychiatrists say.  

That branch of science remains most underdeveloped of all. (IMHO)
Just as there are a huge variety of human bodies, there are many kinds of minds.

If you assume the variance of human bodies from a (hypothetical)standard to go say from -75% to +75%, you can assume that the variance of minds from a (hypothetical)healthy mind, goes -200% to +200%.

Nature needs all the variety, you know.
Those minds which don't fit are naturally deselected. Thats the ultimate treatment for 'mental disorders'.

once dead, it can be that a dude finally undestands he must go on with the flow and just let behind unfinished businesses so the living ones can fix them.

Well andonitxo, I do agree that this is the case with most of them.
However, there are many dead who struggle to communicate after the death, the 'RTZ' is full of them. They may get stuck there as a result and need a 'helper' to get out of that plane...... so I read. (Not my experience)

But I feel that just as there are lots of physical people who are desperate for a contact, there are a lot of non-physical who are trying for the same. All we lack is a reliable means....a technology.

I'm waiting for some expert comments

Vibrations come in garden variety. Following are the kinds I've felt on various occasions -

1. Rocking motion : just like a swing, only a feeling no motion.
2. Earthquake : those who had experienced it know it, sometimes I had to get up and check whether its real earthquake
3. Strong tingling : can be partial, i.e. in some parts only
4. Ants : the start of it.
5. Pressurised tingles : this is when you try to induce it by force. Never yields an obe.
6. Electricity : very pure vibes, expect a good trip.
7. Intense electrocution and shakes with sparks : happens in early days of your attemps, you miss it always

They can occur as a blend of any of the above.
I'd like to hear if there are any other varieties?
Vibes are the most 'objective' part of an obe, make you a believer for sure.