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Arakara

Forgive me for not reading this whole thread (I'll get to it tomorrow, skimmed bits for now), but the topic of "you create you own reality and this includes negs" has come up before, quite a lot of times (we really should make a sticky to address it....hmm), and I think is well addressed by RB's article at:
http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_39.htm
He also takes the arguments from new-agey channeled info, including I believe Seth (which I saw you mention), and his refutations are very relevant to the things you are saying. Evidence such as 9 month old babies coming under massive psychic attack from negs, for instance, cannot be explained with this popular theory. My own experience and logic also disprove this for a number of reasons, some of which are and some of which are not addressed in the article.

Personally, I used to believe in the 100% YCYOR model, but after a number of years trying to piece together the evidence for it, I had to drop it completely. For instance, the reverse of neg attacks, it does not include direct intervention by God, which I know to be real. IMO it might be a part of the picture, I see no reason why it should not be - but it is most certainly not the be all and end all of reality.

Rob

ps CM - how are you getting along fighting your attacker off? Please do tell..

pps Jane Roberts died of cancer while Seth, who claimed unlimited access to higher knowledge, rattled on about deconstructing and reconstructing her belief system.....

Hey guys

If anyone out there still cares I got a q-link pendant off Kifyre a couple of months ago. There is some effect, but it it not half as powerful as the Ally, and it is different.
Its odd, often (not so much now, but before), when I would take it off my body would kinda "sigh" like with relief. I dunno, I think its kinda like having someone next to you all the time who refuses to let you slouch so you have to keep your back straight all the time []. Then, when the person leave its like "aaaaahhhhhh" <slouches back again>, although they were still doing you good.
Anyway I didn't think it was doing much, but then I went on my computer for a couple of hours one day and came off feeling terrible - it was definately different from when wearing it. So I am quite sure its helping "fend off"/whatever the EM radiation.
So, I wear mine almost all the time. I do think its doing good, just not as much and in a slightly different way to the Ally. Maybe thats good in some ways - to revert back to the back slouching, the Ally is more like having an iron rod comfortably stuck to your back so you CANT slouch! Although, this is quite an inadequate description - it forgets that the slouching/EM radiation is not ours, and we shouldn't have to deal with it in the first place, the body being able to use all the lost energy much better without it thanks...
Other effect - there was a slightly woosy feeling when I first put it on, again similar to the Ally but not as pronounced.
In summation though, I am not as convinced with the pendant as with the Ally. I think anyone who can should buy the latter, the former being useful mostly for people strapped for cash and doing lots of office work or stuff in from on computers all day.

peace
Rob

My method: Have a bath, at the end pull the plug but stay there - and dont move. You'll soon start to feel REALLY heavy, odd feeling. Close your eyes and REMEMBER WHAT IT FEELS LIKE. Then later, when out the bath, try and recreate the feeling. It should drop you quickly into a trance. Let me know if it works please!!

Rob

Exothen - your attitude makes me not want to post any more on this topic. Which is such a shame, as the discussion was going so well.
Please be nicer in the future......

You could say that the astral is infolded, dimensionally speaking. As such, it can be  found everywhere (and therefore nowhere), totally and simultaneously. []

I'm a Scorpio!! Which some people tend to think makes me totally eeeeeeevvil, but I'm only a little bit []

And as for Chinese......chicken......boy am I proud of that one......

OOooh yeah! Using Donni's (excellent) divination system which she took from the Aboriginal dreamings, my totem is the Platypus, which sounds kinda lame, but is actually quite cool.

Hey!!

OK first

quote:I did not mean to make everyone so defensive.

LOL I do hope this was not aimed at me!! heh no siree. Anything which looks like that can be safely called "baiting"! Besides, I would be quite happy to believe all the things said, as I "love" to see orthodoxy crumble beneath sandled feet.

Hmm so, the earliest texts it has been stated that we possess are a "a few third century fingernail-size fragments of parchment that scientists 'think' may have come from an early hand written bible testament". And yet, after doing only a minimal amount of research I have read about:
The "Bodmer II Papyrii" which contains most of John, cardon dated to 150-200 A.D.
"John Rylands Manuscript" - part of John, from AD 130
"Chester Beatty Papyri" - Some of the old testament (Genesis, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Esther, and Ecclesiastes); and significant portions of the new testament; and Enoch.
Should these texts be real, and there is no huge church "conspiracy" to date them to an earlier point than they truly were, or to simply make up their existance, then I think that - considering the first church councils were 3rd century - this firmly invalidates your arguments.

Adrian! I agree with much of what you say, and would love to hear more about how you know evidence of reincarnation was stripped from the churches teachings. Presumably this comes from versions of the gospels from before C6?

quote:I think a very important consideration here is that it seems likely that no one actually documented the words of Jesus at the time

Its not "at the time", but the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas (from the Oxyrhynchus Papyri and the Nag Hammadi find...not sure date, no time left to research, gotta go eat.....mmmm) provides many quotes attributed to Jesus - some of which are in the bible, some of which are slightly different from those in the bible, but half of which are nowhere else.

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Rob

You can extract your own, using magnets and stuff attached to your water system or whatever (being superconductors, they are repelled by magnetic fields). Or extract the stuff eg from sea-water using highly alkaline substances (NaOH - lye - most often used). All this at http://www.subtleenergies.com - you might want to read up some of the "reported effects" people have had first though. There's a HUGE amount of other very very good info there, recommend you get to know the effects of each of the main metals first to help you choose should you go buying (not that we really know a huge amount, mind you). Or just get a general starter load with high rhodium, iridium and some gold.

Alternatively if you want to buy it, you might want to try http://www.life-enthusiast.com/ormus/index.htm - recently bought some Ocean Alchemy "Great Salt Lake Manna" for my grandad (has alzheimers). He'll get it in a week or so, I'll post whatever effects it has (if any) either here or on a new thread if I ever get round to writing it. In the meanwhile I'm taking it myself. Its effects have not been earth shattering, but there's definately something going on. Later today I'm going to meditate for half an hour, take some, then carry on meditating to see what it does.
There are other good places you can buy from - a short list at http://www.graal.co.uk/whitepowdergold.html eg http://www.liquid-chi.com/ seem to know what they are doing
....take your pick.....

Hey,

I've read most called "The Teachings of Don Carlos" by Victor Sanchez - its a practical guide to using the techniques and ideas in Caslos Castandeda books. Its all very good, I have to say. I particularly like some of the ideas on the nature of reality - being in certain "bands" and etc. Cant remember the names....
but yeah, some of the techniques and great - the ones on hammering the ego down to size spring to mind as being particularly genius! As for "sorcery" - well, I dont think the nature of the "sorcery" in castanedas books is quite the same as that which is typically looked down upon by occultists and etc.
As for him being a "fraud" - well, it might be that Don Juan doesn't exist. I dont know, and wouldn't be suprised. I could, however, quite understand why he would write about this great shaman person, put all the knowledge and etc into those books in the form of stories. Many good reasons for doing that - for instance, it makes sure that he is not setting himself up on any pedestal he doesn't want to be on, and keeps him in the "student" perspective (ie where we all should be).

Okeydokie – Nox man, you there?? How was your holiday? Mine was good, did some thinking....

Your comment about resonating frequencies and etc being an important factor in the mind, got mine working. I now believe that ORMUS might be capable of taking us a long way into a fully scientific description of the energy body and etc. I'll write this along the lines of how I wrote it earlier, apologies if its messy (there may also be some inaccuracies in the science). Further, I now have more questions than I started with, as is the way with these things!:

Meissner fields have the property that when they are resonating in harmony (ie at the same rate, don't think it works with different harmonic, not sure), and they touch, they link together and energy (and presumably therefore info) can flow between them. Boy! Does that sound familiar? Eg q-links work by helping the body to resonate in harmony, meaning info can flow more easily throughout with less distortion.
IMO the Meissner field of the human body is the aura. So:

- Colours of chakras are their auras are described in terms of colours of light. Is it possible that different ormes have their own unique colours? Or are they easy, ie can be changed to whatever rate? My intuition says the latter.
- Primary chakra has resonance that controls/goes through whole body eg nervous system – brain perhaps too?
- Feet resonate with earth - draws energy in from earth
  - Through what? A form of quantum resonance? Meissner fields touching?
- Secondarys link different fields of resonance - how? Through vortex's of light. Previous theory of mine on this is that if you have an attractor in the middle of a spinning medium, as in physical forces, you can cause the medium to spin faster and faster as is gets towards the middle, and when it does, the medium is siphoned off along the meridians. Now I need to know if this would work with spinning light in the meissner field, I see no reason why not, but this needs investigating. eg can the rate of vibration of the meissner field actually be described in terms of the rate of flow of the light?
- Energy body corresponds to the nervous system - of course! This is a fact often used to "debunk" acupuncture. And yet along the nerves is where you would expect to find high quantities of ormus - it can have a strong healing effect there if taken.
    - But then, what about the 4 pathways that run up the outside of the legs and arms? - need medical opinion.

Big questions:
1) Why do we need strong meissner fields?
2) What is it powering?
3) How? How does meissner link to the mind?
4) How does the mind move energy? - necessary to get into assumption territory (mind always is a spanner in the works of science!)

Answers:
2 - Experience shows that increased energy (arguing this is through the meissner field) powers consciousness, ie links the mind stronger into the body (err...). Also, if high enough, psychic abilities.
I feel that it is an assumption to say that the meissner field directly powers anything. I think it much more likely that it simply serves as a conduit for energy transmission throughout body and mind and etc.
3 - Let us assume as fact that mind connects to body through ormus. It is known from experience that harmonics are important for easy flow and exchange of energy and info. Discord and etc breaks the harmony - energy will then be required to re-establish it. The spiritual life is the way of harmony - it therefore wastes less energy! The mundane life is filled with discordant thoughts, and thoughts have their own vibrations, so we are all in the process of a running battle to hold resonance and expending a lot of energy trying to re-establish harmony. Presumably resonance with the mind and ormes is how we link to out bodies.

I am doing some thinking on the nature of cancer with all this too, but I've leave that for another day [] My head is spinning! This all seems rather weak now, I thought it was quite good when I came up with it. Oh well. Thoughts? And have you still got those questions?

peace
Rob

Ahem....

3) History is made in the texts that record their events. To say that there is no "evidence" is then almost ludicrous - when you remember that there are many thousands of texts which record the life of Jesus. Admittedly, they dont agree everywhere, but you can hardly fault them for that. It is therefore misleading to say that the Bible only verifies itself - forgetting the many other texts not included, this is the way with much of history - the records are indeed all we have to go by. Texts are what create history, they constitute evidence in themselves.

4) Continuing from this, the "physical evidence" you speak of, I assume, is directed at the lack of errr lets see, physical objects. This is, however, again misleading. Jesus was but one man, with a handful of close followers. His main works were not like emperors who built huge palaces, or the pharaohs who build pyramids. They were in the message he brought, in the work he did with his own healing hands and the suffering he received. And, of course there are no massive edifices erected to him in his time - some of the people on the street loved him, but those in power either hated him or were not particularly interested. Why should they support him? So! What else is there? What would you really expect to find, if we are talking of "evidence" here?
And yet, we do have indications of his life, thanks to his disciples. I've just come back from holiday in Turkey - where I visited the temple of St John the Divine, and the Church of the Martyrdom of St Philip. The latter was stoned to death in AD 80 or abouts, with his son, by the locals; the former is the final resting place of St John. The churches were build in the 3rd and 4th centuries AD - which is hardly surprising, as it took a while before Christianity took hold. That is, you cant really expect them to kill a man then build a huge Byzantine church to him the next day......so are you seriously suggesting that these people were totally made up? Why?? And, why then would erect churches to honour them in totally random spots in turkey, of all places?? It just doesn't make sense. It indicates that these people were real, did real things, which they believed totally in, are received punishment from the heathens for it...
The church of St John would have been a magnificent structure when it was in use (both are ruins today), and had some very interesting inscriptions and carvings. To me, they indicate that whoever build the place, knew a lot that we dont. (If there's anyone who would be interested in seeing some piccies, let me know - there is what looks to be a sigil or two, and a very odd cross which inscriptions over it)

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Rob

Of course, none of this really means I believe what I say, but any discussion would still be valuable!

Waves rise and fall. Evil may be on the increase (in general, for years now) but I would argue that recent fights/whatever on the forums would be more the influence of Mars and some pretty extreme electrical alignments in the last couple of weeks. Tsh! I leave you people alone for 2 weeks and see what happens!!!! hehe.
Seriously though, if any of you are feeling fed up and like leaving, instead of announcing a final absence from the pulse I would advise you to leave it a week or two, then come back here, have a sniff around and see how things feel then. A break can do wonders to clear the mind, and the forums will probably be clear sailing again soon enough.
And remember - that you, the members, make the forums what they are
aho!
Rob

Oh boy! Great post Robert, VERY interesting.....

Right - no evidence for Christ etc:

a) I seem to remember a post of yours, a long time ago, when you mentioned an OBE in which you met Jesus, and also (perhaps another) in which you saw the scene of the resurrection in the tomb, or something, when Mary first saw Jesus after he arose. Have you changed you mind about this, or are you now saying that this was all just the creation of man??!?

b) I would like to site an usual piece of evidence. Namely Laurence Gardner's work (for which, amusingly enough, he was knighted.....lol I'm sure that it was just for his wonderful research though, nothing else []) - his book "Bloodline Of The Holy Grail" in which he traces the lineage of all the kings and queens of europe and, to his suprise, finds that they all seem to point to a single couple  at....wait for it.....the time of Christ. This is, obviously, a continuation of the Royal line of David, which came through Adraham and Moses - arguable an ex-Pharoe of Ancient Egypt, the line of which may well go back to Enoch and Adam.
But anyway, further evidence he investigates are orders from Rome in the centuries after Christ to hunt down and kill the descendants of Jesus, who are seen as a threat to Caeser.
While I have not read this particular book, I have read "Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark", in which he argues (fully backed with science) that the Ark was an enormous electro-static generator and then some, used for the production of white powder gold. Its a very good, scholarly work, and I see no reason to think that his other books are dissimilar.
website: http://graal.co.uk/ - specifically http://graal.co.uk/bloodline.html (oh yeah the section on "white powder gold" is worth looking into too....hehe I just cant help myself LOL)

OK I should be in bed, just got back from holiday, luckily I slept most of the journey heh pure skill. If I think of anything else I'll post again.

adios
Rob

Wow, thats pretty fast, well made.
Lol I had the idea for the same virus a few years ago now! hehehe. Used to hack a bit too.
I actually know one guy, who is a PROPER hacker (unlike I was, total neophyte). They are, on the whole, a good group. Its only the stupid ones around the edges who hack into major sites and destroy everything. Most of them are just interested in getting to the bottom of code, and if they do hack sites, they will respectfully move everything to another directory (ie leave everything intact), before putting up something like the hackers manifesto on the front page. Or something amusing.
On the whole, they are some of the most intelligent and able computer people around. Which is what I think amuses them - they know more about computers than 99% of system admins do. Hence why they can do what they do.
Rob

Hey!!

Well, now its my turn to go on holiday - for 2 weeks, sailing and mooching through Turkey.

"Oh, another field which I believe can help discover the secrets of the brain/mind interaction, is brainwave entrainment using light and sound (for the purpose of achieving alternate states of consciousness). If you're not already familiar with the subject (on a deeper level than the one usually discussed in the OBE forums of this site , I'd be glad to elaborate on it after I come back."

A damn good point, I'll have a hard think about that......hrrmmmm

Your experiment - yes, does sound a good one! Unfortunetly, there are too few people researching this topic, and fewer still with the resources to do something like that. David Hudson would have been able to, but I dont know what happened to him after the FDA and chums shut his plant down......

"Your nick - isn't an Inguma some kind of Spanish evil night spirit?"

eeeeeeeeerrrrrrr yyyeeeeeeaaahhh.......
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I play a lot of action quake 2!! I was young and wanted a cool sounding eeevil name to kill people with!!! Lol, so inappropriate these days, I really should change but then nobody would know me! Although that might be for the better, I dunno. lol. oh well.

hope you enjoyed your holiday - I gotta run!
laters
Rob

LOL!!!!

Yeah, perhaps a stick would've been a better choice [8D]

Timeless,

from http://www.rense.com/general32/strange.htm :

"By far the most common objects they witnessed were floating spheres of different sizes and colors. In 1995 and 1996, the Gormans and others reported 12 separate incidents of seeing large orange circles flying over the trees of the center homestead. Tom Gorman claims that holes occasionally opened up in the orange spheres and other smaller spheres would fly out. (A neighboring rancher told this reporter of his own encounters with what he called a flying orange basketball.)
 
By early 1996, the sightings of blue spheres at the ranch became almost commonplace. These orbs were said to be about the size of a softball, made of glass and filled with bubbling blue liquids that seemed to rotate inside. Mr. and Mrs. Gorman say that in April 1996, they watched one of the blue orbs repeatedly circle the head of one of their horses, The horse was illuminated by an intense blue light, and there was a sound like static electricity in the air, but this wasn't ball lightning. The orb seemed to be intelligently controlled. When Gorman approached the horse with a flashlight, the orb darted off, maneuvering through tree branches with speed and dexterity.
 
The Gormans say the blue spheres seemed to generate severe psychological effects on the family. Family members felt waves of fear roll over them, far in excess of what might be normal, whenever the blue orbs appeared. It was the appearance of one blue orb in particular that finally convinced the Gormans to sell the ranch.
 
One evening in May 1996, Gorman was outside with three of his dogs when he noticed a blue orb darting around in the field near the ranch house. Gorman urged his dogs to go after the ball. The dogs chased and snapped at the orb, but it dodged and maneuvered enough to stay just beyond the reach of their snapping jaws. The ball led the dogs out across the pasture and into the thick brush that borders the field. Gorman says he heard the dogs make three terrible yelps, then they were silent. He called for them, but they didn't respond.
 
The next morning, Gorman went to look for the dogs. What he found were three round spots of dried and brittle vegetation. In the middle of each circle was a black, greasy lump. Gorman surmised that his dogs had been incinerated by something. One thing for sure, the dogs were never seen again. The disappearance of their dogs prompted the Gormans to think about getting out. "

So, I dont think you are going insane! And if you are, you're certainly not alone!!!! []
btw morals are a funny thing to try and put onto the whole UFO and high strangeness topic like the above, they seem to work....different. Like elementals, perhaps.

Rob

Totally man. Interesting to see how the trend has been for hundreds of years that the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. When Rome fell most of everything was controlled by about 11 people. Today in America, the figures I have: Roughly 50 or so years ago the top 1% of population contained 47% wealth, now it is 67% (63% when Bush Jr first came into power). And its not going to be a linear increase.

Plato used to say that when a country gets to this sort of stage, there are 2 options: totalitarian government, or anarchy which erodes away the current power structure. MJ-12's quiet revolution is a nice form of anarchy, as it removes you from the system of heirarchical control.
Of course there is another way - outside intervention. Whether from a massive comet flying by and shredding the planet (planet x as it looks to be heading our way, revelations styleee), totally destroying all order, or perhaps the US govt will just annoy so many people half the world will invade.

Ultimately, I see a form of aided implosion.

I'm afraid to say I dont think MJ-12's idea is going to work, though I would love it if it did, as there are just too many people sitting around with their eyes wide shut, slumming on the couch, and not giving a crap what goes on in the world around them as long as they have their 300 channels and 28 brands of peanut butter. Because, most people just want to get by, from day to day. Which leaves a few people around who want the best for themselves and others, and are prepared to fight/work for it, and a few who just want the best for themselves and dont care about anyone else. Trouble is the latter group are the people in power, and have been for some time, and there are too few of the former group and even fewer who have a clue what to do about it.

There are so so many ways of keeping control, its sick....

I'm either going to trust in God to save me, or go hide in a cave!

Rob

Hey Noxerus! []

"You might be impressed that I'm just 16, but it's not as if I'm as intelligent as I may sound."
LOL YEAH RIGHT!! You are reading Bearden and studying calculus in your spare time!!
And, being lazy hehehe you are like me there then. Totally know what you mean, I've been reading and theorising and building up concepts for a few years now, but only recently have I started putting these things into some practise (fringe tech stuff mostly). Computers are a big distraction...
Btw - do you recommend Beardens "Energy from the Vacuum"?

"Until very recently, the emotional aspects of my life were completely messed up (long and extremely stupid story - heck, I am 16.5 after all, as much as I try to rise above that)"

Yep.....hehe thats being a teenager. Do you meditate?

"*Somewhat angry at himself* just noticed that certain portions of this post of mine might sound patronizing. I deeply apologize in advance if this indeed is the case..."

No, not at all, and please dont worry about that kind of thing with me anyway! Besides, I'm quite aware of how much a slut the internet can be like that...

"As for ORMUS metals - I'm only lightly familiar with the subject, so there's a lot I can (and should) learn about it from you before I can genuinely contemplate their practical use for such goals."

Oh boy, you shouldn't have said that.......
OK! ORMUS metals, when converted from their base metal state, lose 4/9ths or 44% of their weight. This ties in with our theoretical understanding of exotic matter. The missing portion is, litereally, not here - ie not in our physical dimension. Even more extreme, if you heat and cool the stuff its mass changes, varying from many times is original weight to less than nothing, and this antigravity effect is even transferred to whatever it is touching (probably whatever is within its meissner field). When ormes reaches a certain temperature (in the absence of oxygen) it completely disappear - and, its not just that they have become invisible, it is literally not here. You can wave objects around in the space it was occupying, then cool the stuff back down, and it will reappear in exactly the same place and position it left (which begs the question - how is it being heated and cooled at all from the physical?? One of the odder properties of EM waves, presumably).
So, the "not here" portions, physicists would say that they are in a higher dimension. Metaphysicists would also say the same thing - but give the higher dimension a name like the astral. Almost certainly then, the astral portion of the ormes can be directly affected by the mind, and the effects are produced on said ormes - part there, part here, so the effects from there can be picked up here.....get it? I think I'm making it sound more complicated than it is. The mind affects the ormus, the physical can pick up those effects. This stuff really is the bridge between the two worlds - and in my mind, after thinking about it in this thread, I am left with no doubt that it IS how the mind and body connect. At least, it is one way, there may be other.
Relating this to the golem, and the brain, its gonna take some real head scratching to work out how the signals are picked up on the physical. Maybe instead of forming one meissner field per brain there are thousands, MILLIONS! for each neuron or cluster of them. We really really need more info...
Oh ya, the Meissner field. Well, ya know how say magnets have electromagnetic fields? The meissner field is like that, only its a light field. ie a field composed of photons - although not quite, actually made of things very close to photons. Its pretty cool really, David Hudson (bloke who "discovered" this stuff) uses Beardens reverse time theories. So what we are actually looking at, he says, is an electron and positron (reverse time electron) being added together, the result being a ummmm forget the name if there is one, but its very similar to a photon (although it flows at the speed of sound, and other oddities)
The meissner field can hold, indefinately, any energy (and information?), you put into it. It flows around the ormus, with no energy loss at all. The meissner field is individual to each quantity of ormes which are entagled together. Also, energy can be transferred between the meissner fields, without the ormues touching. With no energy loss. But getting energy out of the stuff is trickier, you need to form a resonator at the same speed as the ormus, link to it and out flows the energy ((eg?) as electrons).
Ormus appears to be used throughout the body, not just the brain.
You've heard in mystic terms that we all high a "light body" right?? Well!! Guess what....
Lets seeeee what else.....
Oh yeah, links at www.subtleenergies.com for the most info, and some mp3's with Hudson talking about all of the above at http://www.luminet.net/~wenonah/hudson/
Lots of other cool stuff relating to ormus - its history is MIND BLOWING.
OK this is probably long enough now, if you have any question shoot
laters
Rob

Hey,
I've heard different people do have random things like that happen to them.
Myself I once had an experience where I blew a couple of bulbs, I was on a high edgy energy at the time, pushing/being pushed through to it. So yeah, I guess it happens. Maybe it means you have a lot of energies you need to reign in and bring under control, who knows..
Rob

Hey Noxerus!!

You post made me smile! [] And, if you are happy to see that I am an engineer, then I am very happy to see that you are only 16 - WOW!!! I am seriously impressed.....
Lol, engineering, damn today I wish I had taken quantum mechanics or something hehe, but  yeah, you are probably right that the world does need more open minded engineers as a priority. Its just a shame that engineering is so bloody boring!!

Btw, I have some experience with Bearden, having read a lot of his website and most of Excalibur Briefing. Lol took a couple of weeks before I was able to understand ANYTHING he was saying (totally impenetrable at first) but I have some sort of a grasp of it now...

quote:That dream, I believe, we two have in common (well, that and the desire to build a robot who has a non-physical AI instead of physical AI).

Oh yeah, absolutely - I guess that really is one of the Holy Grails of our research.
I think my biggest dream, and has been for some time now, is to get advanced technologies, technologies that affect the spirit, or hell anything like this to market. That these things have been so rigorously suppressed for so long, is one of the biggest crimes in human history. Rife, AG, FE, ORMUS, etc etc. Any of these would do, and would force a leap in understanding as they hit the mainstream. And, I think it may be possible to get them out there, if you know where to start from, and if you are cunning enough!

You know about ORMUS - sweet!
A relatively obvious thing to remember, which I am sure you are already considering, would be that ormes exist only 56% in the physical so its entirely likely, indeed almost certain, that they can be effected directly from the etheric, and the signals picked up here in the physical. The only question that then remains is how is this info extracted and inputted into the human mind - ie how do the neurons interact with (probably) the meissner field? Lol looks like I will have to look at how matures's done it after all.
Fffggrr, running on extremely limited information here....
But, it has to be said that I think this line of thinking is closer than anything being studied in any university. Which is pretty cool, when you think about it, that the emphasis is now on people like you and me to find the answers to such enormous question!

Anyway, enjoy your trip, and I look forward to hearing from you again!

cheers
Rob

ps How far experienced are you with Bardons Initiation into Hermetics, if I may ask?

Noxerus - you've read that book? GGrr!! Jealous!! Its too expensive for my student pocket []. Although I might persuade some people next year to buy it with me.

"What ever happened to "simply" engineering a living mind using EM waves polarized on the t-axis?"
Please explain this in more detail!
To me, the fact that OBE's are possible tells me that the mind is not based in the physical, and that the brain simply serves as part of a mechanism linking mind into the body. Therefore for a fully functioning mind you need to have a variable that starts off completely disconnected from the physical (ie the thought form) - em waves dont seem to be able to fit this, but that could just be a hole in my understanding....??

quote:Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior

Inguma,
As soon as you have some new screens, throw them up, I am anxious to see.  Have you seen the trailer for Half_Life 2?  They are actually going to package editing tools with the game, at least the PC version, as I am sure you are aware, the mods for half-life 1 are far more popular than the actual game.  The half-life 2 engine is supposed to be amazing.  The E3 trailer for the game (aval at www.gametrailers.com) shows off the new engine and you can actually hear a guy commenting on the physics engine, etc.  Check it out and let me know what you think.
Dan

Hey!!! My friend started moving the map on to rq3, but we never got very far. Will do! You play q3 much? I might try and put some bots lines in it, have to learn HOW first of course. If you like I'll mail it to you when its finished.....

OH YEAH the half life 2 trailer does like very cool! Hehehe to be honest though I have a pet hate of counterstrike - its sooo slooooowww!!! And (lol) I think it annoys me so many people play it LOL. Some people like tactics but I just like speed and big, cool guns [] hehehehe...

Hey!!

The theories, yup, tricky to mesh them together (quantum Vs relativity, microscopic Vs macroscopic). But the practicalities - its done all the time! Although, to the best of my knowledge, people have yet to combine the magical with the technical. Too much of a huge gaping chasm that exists between the two parties (err from the pseudo-closed minded-scientists perspective anyway []) for them to work together for the most part. And grants needed etc etc etc....

Rob

Been there!! Was regular for a while. The flame wars were highly amusing, but being around wasn't doing me any good (I was getting quite "aggressive" myself [}:)]), so I left!! Quite a quirky place, to say the least, some err "characters", a lot of good knowledgeable people too.