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But what bothers me is when Science claims (quote) "In about 10 years we will have the technology capable of not only detecting other planes of existence, but entering them through science as well". Yeah. They said that 10 years ago as well.

I don't know of any reputable sources that would make that claim.

I have an overactive brow chakra, and underactive throat and crown chakras (I can tell this when I do reiki and it gives me a headache). I think this might be messing with my sleep cycle, and it might account for my recent insomnia. What techniques can I use to balance them?

also, I encountered several of those snake things, like 20 odd, killed them all in cold blood, don't really feel, guilty, also my mate said I look slightly demonic when i'm projecting, so if anyone has been propelled out of sleep by something relatively evil looking, probably me, I do that sometimes.

What the...

Odd question: do you have any feathers while OOB, or do you have any other connection to birds?

Excellent find - thanks!

If something is truly spiritual, then there is no way it can be measured by math or detected by science. Science will never "detect" heaven. Give it up. We are on the physical plane, so we can only do physical things. If we wish to see the other planes, the only way we can do it is via the spiritual route. So, on the physical plane, things are physical. One the spiritual plane, which is supposedly the more real and dominant one, then everything is possible.

What makes you think there's only one way to discover the spiritual world? Seem a kind of dogmatic anti-scientific point of view.

If you're not affected by the Earth's gravity, then you're probably not affected by the gravity of a black hole either. Space would still be distorted around you: as you get further "into" the black hole (towards the event horizon, which you'd never reach unless with a superluminal (or infinite?) speed) the Universe outside the black hole would appear distorted and perhaps flat? Time relative to your physical body would be distorted too... but perhaps you can alter that rate for your astral double, or perhaps you'd be instantly pulled back after a second to you, but ten minutes to your body.

You are right, it does sound like a lot of excrement. Please, chemical drugs are not the way, they generally have a higher instance of addiction from the first time you use it.

Drugs are probably not recommended, but that doesn't mean the story is bovine excrement.

The natural drug in our brain is Dopamine, it's the high we feel from physical exercise and other things. Illicit drugs work on the brain because we have receptors for them, but that doesn't mean we should use them recreationally, and especially not as a lifestyle choice.

DMT can be found in the body and in the brain, and it is a natural compound. From wikipedia:

Dimethyltryptamine (DMT), also known as N,N-dimethyltryptamine, is a naturally-occurring tryptamine and potent psychedelic drug, found not only in many plants, but also in trace amounts in the human body where its natural function is undetermined.

Like alcohol, some people should never touch it.

Why?

Each to their own really, I cannot say do not use drugs as I experimented with clean LSD and magic mushrooms in my early days. But I would never touch any of the more recent chemical compounds for the fact that they are intentionally addictive, a lot are made in unsanitary conditions and are cut with horrible things in many cases.. and that's just beside the fact that they are unnatural compounds.

I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about some of the newer legal ones.

I can't focus on astral projecting if I'm drunk. If I'm hung over and feeling horrible though, I usually stay in bed longer and have disturbed sleep... So I usually have a spontaneous projection during hangovers.

I've experienced a tube or tunnel sometimes, but I don't think it will always appear that way. Sometimes it just happens to look like my door, and going through it takes me to the astral. Mirrors and probably posters work like that too.

Can Astral Projecting Be Dangerous?

Lots of people on this forum will say no. To contrast with that, there are lots of paranoid people on the Astral Dynamics forum who will say yes. Trying to be objective here, I'll say it's no more dangerous than physical reality. I've certainly never been hurt in 7 years of experiences.

Can It Be Done By Everyone?

I believe so, but different people may find it more difficult to begin with.

Can I Use Binaural Beats To Help Me Project?

Personally, I think that's just a placebo effect. They're supposed to work by having your brain difference the frequencies going into each ear. I've never seen a good reason why the brain should care about the difference.

Can I Project Anywhere At Anytime?

In theory, you can (Monroe claimed to be able to do this, IIRC). Most people will find it infinitely easier to do it while their body is asleep though, so relaxation and deep trance are most likely a practical requirement.

Does Faith Have Anything To Do With Projecting

No. Astral projection is about experiencing things. Faith is about blind belief in something without any experience.

Can I Meet Other People

Some people have claimed to do this.

Alright I am very interested in Lucid Dreaming aswell an I know about reality checks but will a recording of me saying 'I Am Dreaming' on a loop as I'm falling asleep work and use Lucid Dreams as a 'Portal' to Astral Projecting?

I dunno if the recording will help, but I've used LDs before as a 'portal' to AP.

Will I Remember If I Astral Project When I Go Back To My Body?

Not always, if you fall asleep afterwards. Keeping a dream journal should help with that.

What If I Can't Get Back To My Body?

People here will claim that's impossible. I've never experienced it, but I'm not going to rule it out. Might happen if your physical body dies while you're "out" or if you have psychological or chemical imbalances.

Any Links To Sketches Of The Astral Planes?

Dunno.

Just was thinking of when a person is out of body,what percentage of the brain is being used.

Physiologically, you're sleeping, so it would be the same amount as during sleep.

Sounds to me like you're thinking about the old myth that we only use 10% of our brains. The reality is that we use the whole of the brain, but not all at the same time.

This always happens to me (as it did this morning): when I project, I start out on the etheric plane, and have brilliant realistic sensations of movement, etc. but I'm blind. Whatever I do to get my vision back, what I see is so far removed from the physical plane, I'm often viewing extremely old (> 50 years) thoughtforms left behind from when someone else lived here, or sometimes I'm entirely on the astral plane.

Viewing old thoughtforms and exploring the astral is all fun, but I would like to explore something closer to the physical. How can I stop myself from drifting?

That cant have been possible in your astral body to influence the physical world. The cat must had done it when he freaked or something or more than likely you left the door open before you went upstairs to OBE and forgot it was left open and when you saw it next after your experience you saw it open making you think you did it during your OBE. Its the only plauseable explanation.

If poltergeists are allowed to move stuff around, why can't we?

How's the psychic computer coming along?

Lol, I don't think I have time to investigate it.

However the average user doesn't educate himself, nor would I expect them to.

It's not a good idea to have sex until you understand how STIs are transmitted or how babby is formed. Similarly, I don't think it's a good idea to use a computer until you understand a bit about how security works. Just having AV software and a firewall on your PC is not good enough. It's like using birth control without understanding why or how it's meant to be used. The only difference between malware and STIs here, is that the effects of malware are financial rather than physical, which in some cases can be worse... Bad credit rating and continual identity theft can't be got rid of by visiting a doctor and taking drugs - they form permanent scars. EDIT: And malware can be used as a weapon against other people/organisations too, not just against yourself. It's negligent to allow your machine to be used that way.

Therefore with that said, An Apple may be your best bet, due to it's not as prone to attack, or exploits.

Using OS X instead would be like switching to only having anal sex. Yeah you're probably not going to get pregnant that way, but it doesn't make you magically immune to bad stuff.

Cue jokes about Mac users being gay in 3, 2, 1...

1. placed a random card face up and viewed it while out of body: I could see the card but it constantly changed while I viewed it. In the end I never correctly identified the card. Experiment performed 4 times.

Playing cards are difficult because they're numerical. Try Tarot cards (which have some emotional and symbolic meanings) or post cards of places you've been to.

As a Information Technology Support Specialist, I can tell you, Apple computers cost more due to system stability.

Yeah? As a computer science graduate of the University of ***, (with particular interest in Security) I can tell you Apple computers are hyped. Apple doesn't sell operating systems, they sell the hardware (or at least claim to). The apparent stability in Apple machines is purely because Apple only have to write the software for a particular hardware setup (the gear in the box they sell you), whereas Microsoft have to test and target virtually everything out there. Overall, this means the cost of software development of the OS X operating system is LESS than that of Windows. Why do you pay more for it then? galaxy_storm already said: the design (and I suspect the marketing, too).

Not only is it extremely difficult to code a virus, or malware for the system, it's also secured!

OS X is not immune to malware. It's still vulnerable to buffer overflows and other bugs, just as Windows is. Bugs are a fact of any reasonably-sized software, and being based on Unix doesn't fix that. I can't seem to make sense of your statement that "it's also secured." What do you mean by that?

Traditionally, Windows's weakness to viruses was because of its poor single-user security model, but that's been fixed since 2000. The reason we still see malware only on Windows is because Windows has the larger market share. Why would any sensible malware writer target a smaller market than a larger one for the same cost of development? (I also suspect the large fraction of pirated copies of Windows unable to update with the latest patches contributes. But then, with Macs, you have to PAY for your patches!)

Buying an Apple computer is probably the best investment anyone can make. Especially now that Mac OS X is based on Unix.

No, the best investment anyone can make would be to educate themselves about how computers work and what security is. Promoting one operating system over the others is promoting ignorance and monoculture, which isn't going to fix the situation. Ignorance and monoculture is why viruses and malware are so prevalent on Windows systems.

Note: I'm not defending Windows, I'm just pointing out you shouldn't give people a false sense of security with Macs. Not even Linux (which I use) is perfect.

If you're going to buy a new computer soon, look around for the best value hardware you can get, and then obtain the best value software you can get, and keep it UPDATED.

I haven't seen a thunderstorm in a dream or an AP. I wonder if you can still make one in a lucid dream...

I've never heard that before, but it does sound interesting. Gonna keep an eye on this thread

A bizarre idea came to me today: what if your computer had a partial existence on the etheric plane, just as humans do? I'm not suggesting that a computer could be made into an intelligent living being or have a soul, I'm thinking about what if one component of your computer was a thoughtform capable of controlling its own energies, creating other thoughtforms, psi constructs, servitors. You could download a program to perform some reiki healing, or set up an etheric webcam, or send and receive telepathic messages with your computer, etc.

As I see it, there's two main problems:

• Getting enough energy to create and maintain the thoughtform component close enough to the physical plane for reliable communication. I've no idea how much it would need or how it would be supplied.
  
  
• Sending messages from the etheric plane to the physical so the physical computer can receive information. The other way -- from the physical to the etheric -- is easy enough because the etheric is a close copy of the physical. But it should somehow be possible, because if the etheric plane truly exists, it's capable of interacting with our physical brains, right?
  
  I spent some time thinking about the second problem and googling fringe science theories, and came up with some potential solutions:
  
  
• EVP is one option, but the signal-to-noise ratio is awful, and you could end up recording for hours without discerning any intelligible information, and automating that could be quite difficult.
  
  
• Random number generators are often used in parapsychological experiments, and perhaps they could be useful for this, but there is still a lot of noise. Note that not all RNGs would fit the role: software ones are deterministic, which makes them inapplicable. Some of the better ones involve "random" physical information from hardware, but most of these still operate under classical physics where it might still be partially deterministic. Quantum RNGs, though might work, because they're purely random. They're used in cryptography, and I believe you can probably buy USB QRNGs on the Internet. The best thing is, it's also a common belief that the etheric plane can bias the probabilities of quantum-mechanical phenomenon...
  
  
• The Teslascope. I can't find any information about how it works, though. It's supposed to pick up alien signals and allow you to talk to the dead.
  
  
• Gravity wave radio or Hodowanec's circuit ( http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/EclipseLab/2k1/gravradio/gravradio.html ). Both look quite difficult to set up, but are a possibility (and I'd be inclined to believe Hodowanec's circuit is just a scam - he kept making up excuses to explain why others' copies weren't working, and he never properly explained how it's meant to work). Both are also said to pick up alien signals.
  
  
• Scalar waves and longitudinal electromagnetic waves might hold information if they exist.
  
  Anybody else have ideas or experience with EVP / Teslascopes, etc.?
  
  Here's some interesting links on speculative science that might be useful to an engineer:
  
  
• http://montalk.net/notes/astral-physics
  
  
• http://montalk.net/notes/the-etheric-origins-of-gravity-electricity-and-magnetism

You've no need to be frightened. Don't worry about that.

For most people, projections only last 2-5 minutes, but I've found that if I don't move after I'm back in my body, and relax and enter the trance again, I can get to the vibrations stage in under a minute and then get out again. I've been able to keep it going for an hour before, that way. Maybe you should try that.

-d

Interesting question. I wonder if anyone's done any studies of the embryonic etheric body.

There's always the possibility that consciousness doesn't begin: it might just bud off from the mother.

Thanks, I think I understand now.

-d

This sounds like a 'dweller in the threshold' experience to me.  Not dweller as entity, but as undifferentiated energy that tickles your amygdala and causes visceral fear.  This is thought to be caused by your own expanded energy causing a feedback with your physical body.

I'm a bit confused by what a "dweller in the threshold" is. Googling turns up results that talk about initiations and seems to imply it's an internal struggle about a change of habbit... and doesn't seem to mention anything about energy feedback. But I was doing a lot of energy work a few hours earlier, and I had tried to RV a past life. Maybe it's telling me I'm not ready for this yet? Hmm... I'm still pretty confused.

-dingo

I woke up at 6am this morning experiencing a supernatural fear. I hadn't been dreaming, but I was partially aware of being asleep. Anyway the fear I felt was unbelievably extreme. I've dealt with negs before, and some frighten me, but I've never felt anything like this before. It was as though I'd done something to REALLY tinkle off God while minimally conscious, and his full attention was on me. I think it also felt like I woke up during something I wasn't meant to witness? I wasn't paralysed, so it couldn't be sleep paralysis... but maybe it was a night terror? Ugh... it felt horrible.

Anybody else do this?

-dingo

What? After you dealt 9 cards, 3 of them vanished and only 6 were on the table? Are you sure they're not still in the deck? Have you counted them?