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This is what I use to get to the hypnogagic state quickly, so I suppose it would come in handy when using the phasing technique.

I lay down on my bed, and look at my ceiling. I start breathing very slow and very deep, as soon as I am accustomed to the slower breathing, I start to breath in six seconds, hold it for six second, and then breath out for six seconds. I didn't pay much attention to breathing exercises stated by others though, because I just tried to find the most comfortable for me, and it works way better.

Remember holding your breath too long for comfort can be damaging, so it can be anywhere from three to six (or even more if you like).

As I am doing that (still looking at the ceiling in my dim lit room) my sight starts to fade out of focus, and eventually my eyes will want to close. As soon as I feel that, I close my eyes and stop my breathing exercises, but continue to breath slowly, and I continue to breath 'manually'. Which means you have to really feel the breath entering and leaving your lungs.

I then shift my focus to my body, and make it feel like it is getting heavier every second. I can actually feel it getting heavier. When I feel that I've reached the max (can't feel any heavier), I take the focus away from my body, and I notice I can now barely feel it.

This is when I attempt to see if I can float. I heard a lot of people talk about a technique, where you had to feel yourself above your body. I don't know about other people, but this was a near impossible task in the beginning. Sounds familiar? This is how I solved it.

I start knowing (yes knowing, don't attempt and don't visualize, know) that when I breath in, I go upwards, and when I breath out, I go downwards. Now you shouldn't think about how many inches you should go up or down, just know you will feel it. After a few breaths you will feel a slight movement. Keep at it, and before long you will feel yourself go upwards and downwards with every breath.

When you feel your 'movement' is steady, know that you every time you go a little higher. For example you rise 10 inches and go down 8 inches. You will then feel that indeed the downward movement will be a little shorter. When that is steady as well, feel that with every breath you are getting further out of your body. Remember, all the time you have to pay attention to your breathing, breath manually!

I can't say it will work well for others, but it has reduced the time it takes me to reach the hypnogagic state by 20 minutes!

Beyond this I cannot help, as I have yet to have my first OOBE. Good luck.

Lastly a short list to make it easier:

- Lay down eyes open, breath slowly.

- Once accustomed to the breathing, start breathing exercises that work well for you. Breath in X seconds, hold breath X seconds, breath out X seconds. See what works well for you.

- Once relaxed close your eyes, keep breathing manually, slowly and deep.

- Focus on your body, feel it getting heavy, to the point where you can't get it any heavier. Go slowly.

- Take focus away from your body. Know that with every inhale you go up, and with every exhale you go down. Nothing else should be on your mind. I found that if you say "rise up" "float down" to yourself, it's easier to not get distracted.

- When you've got a steady motion, know that you go up a little further then you come down. You should feel that the down motion is slightly shorter.

- When you feel that steady as well, now know that you are getting a little further away from your body with every breath. Nothing should distract you. I find myself thinking for instance "If I float up any further I'm at the ceiling" and thoughts like that. Try to keep them out, we don't have to mind the ceiling where we are heading (or walls for that matter ).

- Keep doing the previous step, and you will reach the hypnogagic state fast. I'm still figuring out what to do after that myself.

Thanks

Well, I have this kinda thing. I can put myself in any mood usually via photographic memory. I'm not sure how, but I can think back of a place where I have been (in this case a dark/depressing place) and it makes me feel that way. Kind of like "think of a happy place" in reverse

After reading a post here by Goober, I thought I should give writing a try. As I found his very good.

Anyways I've never done anything of the sort, so i'd like some feedback on how to improve. It came out darker as I expected, I'm usually quite a happy person, don't know where this came from

Anyways here it is:

As darkness descends upon me
From the starless sky
I expect nothing but pandemonium

Cursed visions haunt my waking hours
And cast a pale light of understanding
On what little i have left

Twisted nightmares disturb my sleep
And linger on inside me
Driven me beyond despair

Sliding ever deeper in the swirling vortex
Created by my own sick mind
Slowly losing sanity
A contract of damnation, that i myself have signed

Could't find a moment of peace
Like bare feet on hot desert sand
Couldn't even remember how i got this way
As I died by my own hand



And another one:



I entered winter once again
But this time shall be the last
My final confrontation with the past

Decrepit body's lay beneath the icy surface
Fulfilling their final purpose
To remind he whoever passes here
That so shall his

A thousand corpses well preserved
Of those condemned from birth
And although they came from all corners of the earth
One thing they shared, and one thing alone
They had an ending, well deserved

And now I too shall meet this fate
For living my live in seething hate
And I too came here to clean the slate
For this icy hell, is where final judgment is received
A place where the gods debate

Terrified to my very soul, the final steps I now take
And there sat a terrible creature, spawned forth from the frozen lake
It let out a schreeching howl, and a devastating rake
And shred me to pieces, as They had decided
It did not take Them long to decide my sake

And so I too, was buried beneath the icy earth
As I was too, condemned from birth
And so I too, had an ending well deserved


And yet again, a fair judgment was served

It is said that sometimes when you begin to truly learn more about yourself (spiritually) and you just begin energy work/AP, all the feelings and thoughts you have surpressed come out. Sort of a cleaning of the mind/soul.

I do these meditations on a regular basis, and haven't had any negative expierences whatsoever.

I think it's a great side, allthough I don't at all agree with the racism that is also on there.

If you believe demons are real, as in real demons (not 'evil spirits' called demons). Then you should know they are said to be the gods of hell.

To make a long story short, even if they were real, you couldn't

You mention that you feel more when breathing, I also feel something like that.

Usual when im feeling sensations (of any kind) and I hold my breath they get far stronger, it also feels like there is much more energy when I do that. Anyone else feels the same, and why does it work that way?

I have the same thing. Often while practicing an old surgery scar starts to burn, it's really painfull. Too intense to just ignore, so I get snapped out of it.

Pretty annoying, but it doesn't happen very often so it's ok 

Hi all, I have been practicing astral projection for a good two weeks now, and have had pretty powerfull sensations pretty much from the start.

Yesterday I was practicing and I drifted out of consciousness into what seemed a dreamless sleep. I woke up after what seemed only a few seconds later, feeling like I was floating above my body.

I have tried to feel like floating above my body before, as a technique, and it went pretty well, but this time it came out of nowhere, and it felt far more real. Also as soon as I woke up i felt my body vibrating, I managed not to get excited since it was my first time (go me) and soon I felt my body again. I didn't how that could happen, I was so far into it!

But then I noticed that it wasn't my physical body and I instantly tried to sit up. Obviously it was too soon, and a mistake on my part. However I did feel myself sit up perfectly, but my physical eyes opened right after that. I couldn't try again because I was too excited now.

My question was, based on my description, if I were to wait a little more and then tried to roll out of my body, would it work?

I'm asking this because I heard someone say that if you feel these kind of sensations so quick after starting out it was nearly impossible to be the real deal, but it was certainly a step in the right direction. So if this were true, trying to roll out of my body everytime I get to that state would pretty much lead me to a dead end everytime.

I would like to add, that in those two weeks, I read at least 6 full books on the subject, both from an occultist and atheist point of view, and have practiced at least an hour a day.

So is it really that impossible, am I really experiencing a deep trance, rather then being ready to go out? Or is it also possible I'm just one of those lucky few that can manage faster then most others. It has been for instance, always really easy for me to clear all my thoughts.

I would like to hear some viewpoints on this.

Thanks in advance,
- LittleJoe

I've seen it aswell. Even if this happens (mass CME) there is a fifty-fifty chance it will not affect us, depending on the direction of the CME. If it's north it's harmless, if it's south then it will.

The chance of such a "Perfect storm" (or perfect solar storm if you will) is quite small, but that doesn't mean it can't happen

They explained that in that case, it would probably knock out all the generators which convert high volt electricity into the lower kind we use at home. There are only 2000 of those in the world, and only 10 to 20 new ones can be build each year. Those new ones will go for the highest bidder, that means the poorest country's will be without electricity for 10-20 years.

Ouch!

In my opinion the question you should ask is "do I think it is immoral?"

Morals are forced on you from all sides, your direct environment, school, sometimes church. I find it important to make your own morals and live by them, take control of your own life. Too many people decide not to do things they enjoy because other people frown upon them, it's a shame.

Ofcourse you should always follow the law, and make sure other people are not bothered by them. And by that I don't mean if people take offence by the you dress yourself for instance!

That's my opinion on it.

LittleJoe

I just posted a topic on this subject based on my expierences:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/binaural_beats_bwg_it_worked-t26608.0.html

Hi all,

I've just registered on this forum, but have been reading it for quite some time now. I have been practicing to consciously go out of body for about two weeks now. I have tried a lot of techniques, some of which gave me some result, but none felt like "it was the one" if you catch my drift, none were 100% comfortable for me.

Then i thought back of an essay I once wrote about I-Doser, a program that uses binaural beats to simulate certain drugs. I remember that at the end of my essay I came to the following conclusion:

"Some people report feeling the actual effects of the 'drug' they choose, while others say that no matter what they choose, it only makes them very relaxed. I think the latter do not yet understand the powers of the subconscious mind. I believe the binaural beats are used to put the user into a trance, after which the subconscious remembers what effect the drug is supposed to give, and induces these sensations"

Then I figured with some slight tweaking this could work for OOBE purposes, instead of having the subconscious induce drug-like sensations, I should be able to use the beats to put my mind in the right state, and then consciously try to get out of body.

So I started looking around and came across Brainwave Generator (BWG) and found out they had binaural beat 'templates' specifically made for OOBE. I decided to try Deep mind 6, and I noticed at the comments section that a lot of people think merely listening to these sounds forces you out of your body automatically, naturally they were disappointed. I told myself I wasn't gonna make that mistake, and find a technique that utilizes it, rather then depending on it.

So I installed it on my laptop, lay down on my bed, and put on my headphones. The first thing I had to do was get over my fear. You see I get scared laying with my eyes closed AND having headphones on, because someone could easily sneak up to me that way. Of course no one is gonna sneak up to me in my own room, it's just one of those irrational fears of which everyone has at least a few.

It took about 30 minutes for me to get really comfortable, and so i started to experiment. I noticed that listening slightly, helped me sink deeper into relaxation. I still had my dimmed lights on, and when I closed my eyes it was still rather bright. But as i kept listening closely to the sounds, it got darker by the second.

I knew this was a good thing, because that is what happens when I do my regular breathing exercises. I think after about 30 seconds I was enveloped in total '2d' darkness, and my body was getting quite numb. This usually takes longer if I try it with regular techniques.

So now I had to find a way to focus my attention somewhere other then my physical body. I figured I'd try something with the binaural beats. After a while I noticed that when I was deep enough in the darkness (I think this is a trance) I could deform and control the sound with my mind!

It would normal go "WU WU WU WU WU" but I could make it one long "WUUUUUUU". I could also pitch it higher and lower.  After playing around with it for about 3 minutes, I noticed that the "lights" behind my closed eyes, were now moving to and away from me, they also had depth, I made it to the 3d darkness!

I figured this was the time to try some techniques. So I used the 'mind awake, body asleep' technique I once read here. First I would focus my consciousness on my mind, and I said to myself "Mind awake" then i focused on my body and said "Body asleep".

When I said "mind awake" I let the sound go "WU WU WU" and when I said "Body asleep" I deformed the sound into one long "WUUU" with my mind.

Then I started to see the most real hypnogogic imagery I have ever had. One moment I was trying the technique, and the next moment I was on broadway presenting my latest invention, neon lights. Everyone was blown away by this invention and I knew it was going to make me filthy rich. Then I suddenly remembered I was trying to go out of my body, and I went back to the 3d blackness. It was like a vivid dream that lasted about a minute.

More followed, and I stopped doing anything, I just let the imagery come to me, and it did so without any help from me. After about 5 minutes I sank into what seemed a dreamless sleep, for about 1 minute, and i woke up feeling myself above my body. I wasn't using the technique, I just woke up feeling that way.

Then I felt like my whole body was gently vibrating, but I didn't get excited, because I knew I shouldn't. This was the first time I have ever felt the vibrations! Then I remembered many 'first-timer's' said the vibrations would soon grow so strong it would overwhelm them. So I had to find a way to distract myself from fear, and getting overwhelmed. So I made a song in my head, while still focussing slightly on the vibrations.

It was like this:

"Little Joe, the human vibrator, floats out of his body, and into yours" ( )

After that I was about 10 seconds into them, and I felt my body again, but it wasn't my physical, and i figured I should try to sit up. Somehow my mind kept telling me to wait a bit longer, but I just didn't want to. I sat up in my astral body, and instantly the vibrations faded and my physical eyes opened. So I advise you all, listen to your instinct!


What I'm trying to say here, is that software such as Brainwave Generator can be very usefull >AID< for beginners like me. But remember in the end it's still up to you! I will now make a short list of what I did to get to the vibrations state, for others who are interested:

- Installed Brainwave Generator, and downloaded the "deep mind 6 (VI)" template.
- Lay down on my bed in a comfortable position and put my headphones on.
- Listened slightly to the sounds, and saw the dim brightness behind my closed eyes grow darker and darker, until all was enveloped into a deep 2d darkness.
- Started listening very intensely to the sounds (the "WU WU WU") sound. for about 3 minutes.
- Started playing around with the sound, noticed that I could deform it with my mind, I think I also did this for around 3 minutes.
- Stopped playing and looked at the darkness, I noticed the 'lights' were now in 3d.
- I used my favourite technique (you should replace mine with what you find most comfortable). I focused on my mind and listened to the sounds go "WU WU WU" and said "Mind awake" then focused on my body and deformed the sounds with my mind to go "WUUUUU" and said "Body asleep".
- Started to get vivid Hypnogogic imagery (feels like very short dreams). Didn't do anything, just let it come at me.
- Drifted out of consciousness, and woke up with the vibrations, I figure this is what people talk about when  they mention the 'blackout'.

Lastly I will mention two things, that took me quite some time to find out, and were holding back my progress with OOBE. First, relax the eyes! I read that somewhere on this forum aswell, and caught myself twitching and moving my physical eyes a lot. Try to relax them!

Secondly, when for instance I say "I got the hypnogogic imagery" or "I drifted out of consciousness" this doesn't mean that you should TRY to do these things! If you try, you will most likely fail, so I've noticed.

I merely mentioned these as markers, so that you can see how close you are. Remember you have to stay passive all the time, don't try to work towards a trance, don't try to work toward vibrations, practice a technique you find comfortable and it will come by itself!


Wow this turned out to be a rather long post, I tend to ramble on a lot, so I better stop now. If this helps even only one person I will be happy! Good luck.