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No hard feelings, I didn't quite get your meaning.

sometimes internet text doesn't adequately convey facial expressions and voice intonation.  i enjoy chatting with you.

Excuse me?

i'm sorry, but i thought that you were using levity.  i don't mean to offend.  i can delete my last post if you'd like.

blessings to you for the holiday.   i have honestly been interested in your stories.

welcome.  i can't drink hot chocolate while reading or sketching, because i'm too messy, lolol.

Just don't kill yourself when 2012 comes and nothing happens.

perhaps i'll start investing all of my money in the stockmarket right at the end of 2011, lolol.  is this a good idea?

At this point I really only have a few odd secondhand stories to tell which really aren't of much interest beyond diarrhea and giggles.

Sure, choosing to be incarnated here on Earth is far from the most comfortable option, but it is a great temporary learning "zoo". Self preservation is not in question. 

yes, it does feel like a zoo sometimes, lolol.

I don't think the universal yearning of any conscious entity for comfort, security and self preservation will ever cease. With self preservation can come radical change off course, that is kind of the point though, changing yourself for the better.

okay.

It is total oblivion that scares the heck out of me.

i fear interacting with my brother's in-laws.  that may be near to the eternal oblivion experience.

One of the important factors in fasting is to spend some time preparing to be able to fast safely, then try starting with one day on the weekend, when you can rest and don't have to tend to obligations or responsibilities.

We've seen a few discussions that fail to address the importance of preparation. For example, one person was saying that he would eat a fast-food hamburger, then go on a fast,and no one addressed that as being an adverse issue.

I used to follow the old school method of preparing to fast by maintaining a strict vegan diet and having a good supply of fresh fruit, wholewheat toast, and light vegetables, (to avoid heavy starch potatoes).

During the fast, a popular method is to drink water with fresh lemon slice, a bit of 100% maple syrup, and a pinch of cyan pepper.

The method of breaking the fast is critical, and recommend ending the fast with grape juice, fresh grapes, then clear veg broth. After the energy returns, then have more solid food.

I don't fast anymore because I need to keep my energy up for kite surfing, but still maintain a light diet, with soy and dairy products for protein.

The last time I fasted was on a survival training course and when sleeping had the most intense hypnagogic visions, but no luck projecting for me at that time.

As I said, this is the old school method of preparation, and recommend researching current info on fasting.

very excellent suggestions.

OK what are bioenhancements? There's a word that comes up with zero hits on google. 

that's just a fancy name for performing bio-manipulation to enhance the body and brain.

Hmm. Bioenhancements might be a good topic for a new thread, I have done some work like that myself actually, although it might not be the same thing AT is doing. 

please feel free to share.

your not condescending, I don't remember everyone that visit my site, nor their nicknames.. just too many people to keep up with and I am always repeating the importance of tracking...

I wish more people would explore these avenue's and start tracking. To me it makes common sense!

yes, i fully agree that tracking is very important.  maybe i already do this in my own personal way, although i don't record and publish the results.  my current endeavors are taking up my full energies and resources.

Can you explain more indetail about bio-manipulation enhancements?

Keep up the good work.

Tvos

certainly.  thanks.

btw, these methods are extremely dangerous, and have a 99% chance of causing chronic or permanent brain and/or organ damage if practiced by anyone who would endeavor them without the necessary knowledge base.  please don't do this at home.  i've done a vast amount of research into these bio-enhancements over the last decade, so i'm working within a much safer framework.  it's safe for me, but not for others.

in this context, bio-enhancement primarily involves the reprogramming of the body's circadian rhythm (among other things), wherein an individual would be awake 2/3rds of the time and asleep 1/3rd of the time (as usual with anyone).  however, the waking and sleeping blocks would either be substantially lengthened or shortened with this particular methodology.

1. circadian extension: the circadian rhythm of the average person is on a 24 hour cycle (16 hours awake and 8 hours asleep).  my methods extend the circadian rhythm to a 48 hour cycle (32 or more hours awake and 16 or more hours asleep) or longer for a potentially lifetime basis.  i will even attempt to push it up to 72 hours and 96 hours.  please be aware that this requires years of knowledgable training along with a sacrifice or career and family contacts.  if a person lacks the research necessary, this will cause chronic to permanent brain and/or organ damage, and may even be fatal.  the effects of this training cause the brain, heart, lungs, stomach, eyes, ears, etc.  to function at several times the normal operating intensity, as well as inducing a hibernation-like sleep state incurring potential systemic hyper-regeneration of the organs.

2. sleep fragmentation: this method is somewhat safer, but should still be approached with care.  the merger of the waking and sleeping states is acheived through splicing the waking and sleeping blocks in half several times.  again, the average person is awake 16 hours and asleep 8 hours per day.  however, these times would be shortened (8hrs awake/4hrs asleep to 4hrs awake/2hrs asleep to 2hrs awake/1hr asleep to 1 hr awake/1/2hr asleep, etc.).  this is progressively trained gradually over several weeks, months and years, and is interspersed with the circadian rhythm extension as mentioned above.  this method causes the waking and sleeping states to overlap to a greater degree, depending upon how many years trained.

other secondary methods involve intensified long-term fasting over several weeks, sensory deprivation (of sight and sound) for several days, and adaptive temperature exposure for several hours.

again, i'm pushing these methods to the absolute limits of human health, to levels which require monkish-like sacrifices of career and family.  don't do this at home.  it will damage your health severely, and may prove fatal in some cases.  i'm simply more cognizant of safety methods than the average person due to my years of personal experimentation and research.  since the effects of these methods are so potentially dangerous, i've chosen not to publish them due to legal liability reasons.

I'm a bit sleepy right now so I may have to get back to you later on any questions but ether way you could ask about the nature of reality or life that is native to the realms. You could ask more about the barrier/veil. Or my favorite, religion.

which realms are you specifically referring to?  there are perhaps infinite realms.

What is there next to say? I prefer answering questions.

my next question is: what are the most appropriate questions, lolol?  not sure where to go.

i'm listening.

AT,

Are you willing to pay the price for being able to project weekly?

i've already paid the price for 25 years.  i'm already projecting several times weekly and am performing bio-manipulation enhancements which currently exceed anything publicly available.  we exchanced emails several days back.  i don't mean to be condescending, but spending my energies on tracking at this point will detour me from priority agenda.  i applaud you for your work in that direction.  we are on entirely different paths.  blessings to you.

Its all pretty much the same, along with the iron in the soil of the mountains and the iron in the blood of your body. The only real difference is that the energy already in your soul is easier to utilize because it is already in tune with your system.

hhmm, okay, thanks.  some of these things are new to me.

Have you ever had an astral experience like this?

http://userpages.burgoyne.com/bdespain/progress/progzeph.htm#Sg

Clement, Stromata 5.11.77

The scene in the fifth heaven.     A And a spirit took me and brought me up into the fifth heaven. And I saw angels who are called "lords." And the diadem was set upon them in the Holy Spirit, and the throne of each of them was sevenfold more (brilliant) than the light of the rising sun. (And they were dwelling in the temples of salvation and singing hymns to the ineffable God.)

Sahidic fragment

The seer's vision of a soul in torment.     B1I saw a soul which five thousand angels punished and guarded. 2They took it to the East and they brought it to the West. They beat its ... they gave it a hundred ... lashes for each one daily. 3I was afraid and I cast myself upon my face so that my joints dissolved. 4The angel helped me. He said unto me, "Be strong, O one who will triumph, and prevail so that thou wilt triumph over the accuser and thou wilt come up from Hades." 5And after I arose I said, "Who is this whom they are punishing?" 6He said unto me, "This is a soul which was found in its lawlessness." And before it attained to repenting it was visited, and taken out of its body. 7Truly, I, Zephaniah, saw these things in my vision.


The scene in a broad place.     8And the angel of the Lord went with me. I saw a great broad place, thousands of thousands surrounded it on its left side and myriads of myriads on its right side. The form of each one was different. 9Their hair was loose like that belonging to women. Their teeth were like the teeth of ...

Akhmimic Text

Fragment dealing with burial.     11 ... dead. We will bury him like any man. 2Whenever he dies, we will carry him out playing the cithera before him and chanting psalms and odes over his body.


Scenes from above the seer's city.     21Now I went with the angel of the Lord, and he took me up (over) all my city. There was nothing before my eyes. 2Then I saw two men walking together on one road. I watched them as they talked. 3And, moreover, I also saw two women grinding together at a mill. And I watched them as they talked. 4And I also saw two upon a bed, each one of them acting for their (mutual) ... upon a bed. 5And I saw the whole inhabited world hanging like a drop of water which is suspended from a bucket when it comes up from a well. 6I said unto the angel of the Lord. "Then does not darkness or night exist in this place?" 7He said unto me, "No, because darkness existeth not in that place where the righteous and the saints are, but rather they always exist in the light."

8And I saw all the souls of men as they existed in punishment. 9And I cried out to the Lord Almighty, "O God, if Thou remainest with the saints, Thou (certainly) hast compassion on behalf of the world and the souls which are in this punishment."


Recording angels from Mount Seir.     3 1The angel of the Lord said unto me, "Come, let me show thee the place of righteousness." 2And he took me up upon Mount Seir and he showed me three men, as two angels walked with them rejoicing and exulting over them. 3I said to the angel, "Of what sort are these?" 4He said to me, "These are the three sons of Joatham, the priest, who neither kept the commandment of their father nor observed the ordinances of the Lord."

5Then I saw two other angels weeping over the three sons of Joatham, the priest. 6I said, "O angel, who are these?" He said, "These are the angels of the Lord Almighty. They write down all the good deeds of the righteous upon their scrolls as they watch at the gate of heaven." 7And I take them from their hands and bring them up before the Lord Almighty; He writeth their name in the Book of the Living. 8Also the angels of the accuser who is upon the earth, they also write down all the sins of men upon their scrolls. 9They also sit at the gate of heaven. They tell the accuser and he writeth them upon his scroll so that he might accuse them when they come out of the world (and go) down there."


Ugly angels carry off the souls of ungodly men.     4 1Then I walked with the angel of the Lord. I looked before me and I saw a place there. 2Thousands of thousands and myriads of myriads of angels entered through it. 3Their faces were like a leopard, their tusks being outside their mouth like wild boars. 4Their eyes were mixed with blood. Their hair was loose like the hair of women, and fiery scourges were in their hands. 5When I saw them, I was afraid. I said unto that angel who walked with me, "Of what sort are these?" 6He said unto me, "These are the servants of all creation who come to the souls of ungodly men and bring them and leave them in this place. 7They spend three days going around with them in the air before they bring them and cast them into their eternal punishment."

8I said, "I beseech thee, O Lord, give them not authority to come to me." 9The angel said, "Fear not. I will not permit them to come to thee because thou art pure before the Lord. I will not permit them to come to thee because the Lord Almighty sent me unto thee because <thou> are pure before him." 10Then he beckoned to them, and they withdrew themselves and they ran from me.


The heavenly city.     5 1But I went with the angel of the Lord, and I looked in front of me and I saw gates. 2Then when I approached them I discovered that they were bronze gates. 3The angel touched them and they opened before him. I entered with him and found its whole square like a beautiful city, and I walked in its midst. 4Then the angel of the Lord transformed himself beside me in that place.

5Now I looked at them, and I discovered that they were bronze gates and bronze bolts and iron bars. 6Now my mouth was shut therein. I beheld the bronze gates in front of me as fire was being cast forth for about fifty stadia.


The accuser and the angel Eremiel in Hades.     61Again I turned back and walked, and I saw a great sea. 2But I thought that it was a sea of water. I discovered that it was entirely a sea of flame like a slime which casteth forth much flame and whose waves burn sulfur and bitumen. 3They began to approach me.

4Then I thought that the Lord Almighty had come to visit me. 5Then when I saw, I fell upon my face before him in order that I might worship him. 6I was very much afraid, and I entreated him that he might save me from this distress. 7I cried out, saying, "Eloe, Lord, Adonai, Sabaoth. I beseech Thee to save me from this distress because it hath befallen me."

8In that same instant I stood up, and I saw a great angel before me. His hair was spread out like that of lionesses'. His teeth were outside his mouth like a bear. His hair was spread out like women's. His body was like the serpent's when he wished to swallow me. 9And when I saw him, I was afraid of him so that all the parts of my body were loosened and I fell upon my face. 10I was unable to stand, and I prayed before the Lord Almighty, "Thou wilt save me from this distress. Thou art the one who saved Israel from the hand of Pharaoh, the king of Egypt. Thou saved Susanna from the hand of the elders of injustice. Thou saved the three holy men, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, from the furnace of burning fire. I beg you to save me from this distress."

11Then I arose and stood, and I saw a great angel standing before me with his face shining like the rays of the sun in its glory since his face is like that which is perfected in its glory. 12And he was girded as if a golden girdle were upon his breast. His feet were like bronze which is melted in a fire. 13And when I saw him, I rejoiced, for I thought that the Lord Almighty had come to visit me. 14I fell upon my face, and I worshiped him. 15He said to me, "Take heed. Worship me not. I am not the Lord Almighty, but am the great angel, Eremiel, who is over the abyss and Hades, the one in which all of the souls are imprisoned from the end of the Flood, which came upon the earth, until this day."

16Then I inquired of the angel, "What is the place to which I have come?" He said to me, "It is Hades." 17Then I asked him, "Who is the great angel who stands thus, whom I saw?" He said, "This is the one who accuses men in the presence of the Lord."


The two scrolls.     71Then I looked, and I saw him with a scroll in his hand. He began to unroll it. 2Now after he had spread it out, I read it in my (own) language. I found that all my sins which I had done were written in it, those which I had done from my youth until this day. 3They were all written upon that scroll of mine without there being a false word in them. 4If I did not go to visit a sick man or a widow, I found it written down as a shortcoming upon my manuscript. 5If I did not visit an orphan, it was found written down as a shortcoming on my scroll. 6A day on which I did not fast (or) pray in the time of prayer I found written down as a failing upon my scroll. 7And a day when I did not turn to the sons of Israel — since it is a shortcoming — I found written down upon my scroll 8so that I threw myself upon my face and prayed before the Lord Almighty, "May thy mercy reach me and may thou wipe out my scroll because Thy mercy hath come to be in every place and hath filled every place."

9Then I arose and stood, and I saw a great angel before me saying to me, "Triumph, prevail because thou hast prevailed and hast triumphed over the accuser, and thou hast come up from Hades and the abyss. Thou wilt now cross over the crossing place."

10Again he brought another scroll which was written by hand. 11He began to unroll it, and I read it, and found it written in my (own) language ...


Leaving Hades.     two pages missing (In the missing pages the author probably discussed the content of the second scroll, which should have recorded the good deeds of the seer. If the missing material is parallel to the preceding section, the reading of the scroll would be followed by a prayer — possibly a prayer of thanksgiving — and a pronouncement of triumph by a great angel. That would be followed by preparations for crossing over the river in a journey out of Hades. The section that follows begins after the arrival of a boat.)

8 ... 1They helped me and set me on that boat. 2Thousands of thousands and myriads of myriads of angels gave praise before me. 3I, myself, put on an angelic garment. I saw all of those angels praying. 4I, myself, prayed together with them. 5I knew their language, which they spoke with me. 6Now, moreover, my sons, this is the trial because it is necessary that the good and the evil be weighed in a balance.


The 1st trumpet: triumph & visitation of the righteous.     91Then a great angel came forth having a golden trumpet in his hand, and he blew it three times over my head, saying, "Be courageous! O one who hath triumphed. Prevail! O one who hath prevailed. For thou hast triumphed over the accuser, and thou hast escaped from the abyss and Hades. 2Thou wilt now cross over the crossing place. For thy name is written in the Book of the Living." 3I wanted to embrace him, (but) I was unable to embrace the great angel because his glory is great.

4Then he ran to all the righteous ones, namely, Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and Enoch and Elijah and David. 5He spoke with them as friend to friend speaking one with another.


A 2nd trumpet: opening of heaven & souls in torment.     101Then the great angel came to me with the golden trumpet in his hand, and he blew it up unto heaven. 2Heaven opened from the place where the sun rises to where it sets, from the north to the south. 3I saw the sea which I had seen at the bottom of Hades. Its waves came up to the clouds. 4I saw all the souls sinking in it. I saw some whose hands were bound to their neck, with their hands and feet being fettered. 5I said, "Who are these?" He said unto me, "These are the ones who were bribed and they were given gold and silver until the souls of men were led astray." 6And I saw others covered with mats of fire. 7I said, "Who are these?" He said unto me, "These are the ones who give money at interest, and they receive interest for interest." 8And I also saw some blind ones crying out. And I was amazed when I saw all these works of God. 9I said, "Who are these?" He said unto me, "These are catechumens who heard the word of God, but they were not perfected in the work which they heard." 10And I said unto him, "Then have they not repentance here?" He said, "Yes," 11I said, "How long?" He said unto me, "Until the day when the Lord will judge." 12And I saw others with their hair on them. 13I said, "Then there is hair and body in this place?" 14He said, "Yes, the Lord gives body and hair to them as he desires."


The intercession of the saints for those in torment.     111And I also saw multitudes. He brought them forth. 2As they looked at all of the torments they called out, praying before the Lord Almighty, saying, "We pray unto Thee on account of those who are in all these torments so that Thou might have mercy on all of them." 3And when I saw them, I said to the angel who spoke with me, "<Who are these?>" 4He said, "These who beseech the Lord are Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. 5Then at a certain hour daily they come forth with the great angel. He soundeth a trumpet up unto heaven and another soundeth upon the earth. 6All the righteous hear the sound. They come running, praying to the Lord Almighty daily on behalf of these who are in all these torments."


Another trumpet: the coming wrath of God.     121And again the great angel cometh forth with the golden trumpet in his hand blowing over the earth. 2They hear (it) from the place of the sunrise to the place of the sunset and from the southern regions to the northern regions. 3And again he blows (it) up unto heaven and its sound is heard. 4I said, "O Lord, why left thou me not until I saw them all?" 5He said unto me, "I have not authority to show them unto thee until the Lord Almighty riseth up in his wrath to destroy the earth and the heavens. 6They will see and be disturbed, and they will all cry out, saying, 'All flesh which is ascribed to Thee we will give unto Thee on the day of the Lord.' 7Who will stand in His presence when He riseth in His wrath <to destroy> the earth <and the heavens?> 8Every tree which groweth upon the earth will be plucked up with its roots and fall down. And every high tower and the birds which fly will fall ... "

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Now at the time this was really cool and i was extremely excited but the next day when i recalled the incident i realized this that i was standing near my door looking at myself in my bed at my moms house but i was staying at my dads apartment and this REALLY confused me when i thought about it the next day.

your psyche may have generated a duplicate holographic room imagery from memory.  this is often the case when environments don't quite seem to match right.

Question: What do you guys do when you're having a lonely day?  I usually don't feel lonely, but today I just felt this overwhelming sense of loneliness....how do I snap out of it? I'm sure tomorrow I will feel fine, I usually just get this feeling once in a while, as I'm sure we all do.  So what do you guys do to overcome loneliness?

i sometimes go to the gym or work on a writing project.  then i feel like i have some purpose that's not dependent on other people.

my last OBE that I recorded with a three video camera setup, audio recording my heart beat and breathing.. should have it released sometime in the next month on my site.

interesting.  i've never thought to record myself.

what I found is that in these videos I record and upon returning back to the body and then awakening, you can see that I am clearly in a trance state which I shake my head back/fourth.. it does not look like a typical rem, peaceful awakening from a dream.

how can you tell from a recording what the difference between a trance state and typical sleep is?  what are the indicators?  i sometimes fall into trance when i'm wide awake and meditating, depending on how we're defining trance.  most people have trances when their bodies are asleep, but i have them when my body is awake too.

rather than playing guess games why don't you start recording your times and start tracking.. i just did a 3yr study and know exactly where I am at with projecting.

tvos

hhmm, that would take a financial investment.  i'd be interested in trying it, but i'm probably more focused on paying down my mortgage first.  not a lot of excess cash flow right now.  that'd be my only hindrance.

Good question. After thinking about it, most of my projections occur after I've entered REM and start to come out. I'm sort of in the half awake, half asleep realm.

okay.  same here most often.

I've projected at night but not great results and VERY VERY rarely. 99% of the time I project in the morning and often have multiple OBE's while laying on my back. (meaning I project, return to body and physically awake then repeat)..

yes, this is how it happens with me most often.

I already am sleep deprived so that could be a means for my projecting so often. however i would never negate food in my daily life to project on a more regular basis...unless i was unemployed and didnt have to worry about bills and school.

yes, it takes a great deal of effort.

quite interesting.

Just to get clear though, these images aren't coming from an outside source?

yes, it's quite probable that they're coming from an outside source.  you may be tapping into a dreamscape of dreams which are generated by astral entities.

Like a sacrifice?

First you have to get the concept that chi and other spiritual energies are just like physical matter of the "astral" or "realms" if you will. Here is a simple comparison. Matter is to our bodies as chi/spiritual energy is to our soul.

And second the "astral" or "realms" are just a more-general reality to our own. In essence the realms are identical to our physical reality except for the laws governing a more-general reality are them selves more-general. This makes for a reality that simply has more options within its laws of physics.

Such constructs are made of spiritual energy, the same kind that makes up your soul and most of the time when you'll be making a simple construct you will be making it out of your own soul's energy. At this point my previous statement of "it's made of souls" is no different from saying anything carbon based is "made of bodies" but I will tell you that the creation of the veil quite literally tore the souls, of those participating in the creation, out of their bodies. Though I can not say exactly the reason or meaning of it. No one cared enough to do any proper research so little is known or my contacts care little of scientific curiosity to relay any research that has been done.

so these constructs are made up of energy which was extracted from souls?  what of energy extracted from the earth or plants?