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Hi everyone,

I agree fully with what Nick has said here.

If you feel that you would like to donate and do not know how much to give in support of these excellent forums may I offer the following advise. Remember please that it is only advise offered by a member like everyone else here.

Consider the following...

1> How much disposable income do you have?

2> What value do you place on these forums? If they were gone how would you feel?

For many people here these forums are just that, forums. For many more this is not just a website, it is a community, and more. Friendships are formed and information exchanged in an atmosphere of friendliness, willingness to help, and respect for each other (for the most part).

Many people giving a little makes a big difference. The whole world could be changed if everyone would just make a small effort.

How important are these forums to you and are you in a position to take action to reflect this?

With very best regards,

Dave

Thanks a million James!

Armed with this I will enter the dark world of computer Negs to fight the good fight []

Cheers!

Dave

Hi James,

Thank you very much for the link to that excellent free virus software. I have to hold my hands up here and admit that not only do I know precious little about computer security but I have also been quite lazy with what I do know.

18,000 infected files!!!!!!
[?]     [:I]       [xx(]

What is worse is I do not even recognise about 80% of the files. I did a clearout of SYS32 folder a while back and found hundreds if not thousands of files I never saw before. A large portion of them had song/band titles as the name of the file.  I dumped them all, or at least I thought I did. I probably got these infections when I used "p2p sharing" with no firewall ( I know, I know ).

My real problem is that this virus software was only able to remove 6,000 of these infected files. I have not got a clue what to do to clean up my system.

Any advise you could offer would be very much appreciated.

Cheers,

Dave

Hi Colin,

quote: Wow, I've been wanting to check out Bardon for a while now, but I somehow feel strange accessing such information without paying for it. .

If you have been looking to read Bardon for some time now I can understand how having a pdf version rather than the original wouldn't quite resonate with you. I myself will purchase PME and KTQ as soon as I can comfortably afford to do so (I spend a huge amount of money I don't have on books), even though I now have pdf copies of both. At least by having the pdf copy you know what you would be getting in the paperback and, if you feel that this work is something you wish to do, then I definately reccomend to buy the original.

The same could be said for all books. There is such a plethora of information on esoterical subjects available that I for one could not possibly go out and purchase every book I thought may assist me on my journey.

For more on Bardon you might like to read the following;

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5395&SearchTerms=IIH

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9411&SearchTerms=IIH

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3732&SearchTerms=IIH

And in particular http://www.abardoncompanion.com/CommentariesLinks.html

With best regards,

Dave

Yes, reading instructions does seem to help sometimes! [] I have to admit I have a habit of skipping them also though so sorry everyone, I should have pointed that out.

With best regards,

Dave

Oops-a-daisy!

You seem to have prior knowledge of the writer of this article, I do not. You also appear to know more of Tolkien than I do.

quote:I'm sorry, but anyone who feels the need to interpret any more that what Tolkien originally intended, should STOP reading articles posted on the web that make up half baked theories about him, and START reading what the man himself had to say.

Actually, anyone wanting to interpret more than Tolkien originally intended SHOULD read half baked theories. That is not what I was trying to do though. You may well be right about Tolkien James, and I do not know enough about it to argue with you if I wanted to. I stated that it is a very interesting article, and people are finding it to be just that...very interesting.

quote:It might sound like I'm coming off a bit annoyed here about this. Well, I am!

Well, we all have our pet peeves []

With best regards,

Dave

Hi Kakarrot,

Good to type at you again, how are you? I realise this isn't the place but I hope all went well with what you were planning to do [].

quote:ok, if my understanding of what that web site is saying is correct, they are saying that the lord of the rings books are "true history", or are based upon "true history"? O.o

Jay Weidner in this article tells us that "To Tolkien, Lord of the Rings was a mythical reimagining of the history of Europe 6,000 ­7,000 years ago."

I think the key word there is 'reimagining'. I do not know how much truth Tolkien believed was held in LOTR but I found the parallels between his world and ours very interesting. Also well portraid IMO was the path that would have led Tolkien to the discovery of Alchemy in the first place.


Hi Arthelion,

quote:And the ending of this cycle of ages also corresponds whit the Zeta's and Reptilian's theories on this forum

That is true. I believe the channelled info on cycles is only recent too. I have to say in all honesty that I was unaware of the 'coincidence' untill after I submitted this post. I had the link to that article in an unopened e-mail for weeks before I looked at it []

With best regards,

Dave

Dear Kristen,

I do not check this forum in particular. I do check the 'active posts' whenever I log in here and when I notice a genuine request for help in the healing place I do what I can to help the person/persons. I generally do not respond in type as my healing abilities are not much to write home about. Perhaps I should do. Perhaps there may be many more people who do the same thing. I would like to think there are [].

I will send love and Reiki healings to your cousin Linda with the sincerest hope that the remainder of her days, however many that may be, are filled with peace, love and happiness.

With kindest regards,

Dave

No problem at all []

Ive never heard of the owl as messenger, is that Native American symbology? Dream symbols vary from person to person depending on what they can relate to. I had a vision before where the messages appeared like ads in a classifieds paper! I wonder what that says about me []

Best regards,

Dave

Hi Zarklon,

What I like about this is the fact that it is virtually effortless. I usually just listen to my breathing or listen outwards for a non-physical sound (hard to explain that one). When the imagery appears I generally push it gently away. Last night though, I tried your trick with the imagery and ended up in a medium trance before I knew what was going on! I proceeded for a while but did not quite make it to a projection. I'll try it out again tonight.

Nice idea []

Best Regards,

Dave

Hello Chill,

Allow me here to offer you my thanks if you will. Thank you for being the person you are and thank you for showing me much about myself. You see, our feelings and reactions towards others shows us much about ourselves. It did take me a while but in this respect I did learn much from you. I am gratefull for the opportunity you presented me with.

With regards to your report I look forward to reading it, provided it is honest which I am sure it will be. Our opinions on these matters still differ I imagine but opinions are not what is important. Personal experience however leads me to disagree with you on the following ('They' meaning the Pleiadians or Zeta);

quote:They can't do any remote viewing whatsoever either.

Other than that well I guess I'll hang on untill the end of the month for your full report.[]

With regards,

Dave

Thank you Nick []

I do intend on being more active now than of late and with my online access back to normal hopefully I'll be able to do so.

Best Wishes,

Dave

Ditto,

Wishing the best of everything for all in the coming year!

Squeek, I see you have been 'mod'ified! And about time too []

Best regards,

Dave

Hi Morpheus,

That dream sounds like one of the unforgettable and undeniable moments that show us that what we see on a day to day basis is not reality as we have been brought up to believe in. Just one moment in a lifetime can totally change how a person views his or her reality. And it seems to be happening to more and more people all the time now []

I'm replying to you here not because I have had a similar experience but because I've been told things about DNA recently that you may or may not find interesting. I suppose the best way for me to explain would be to point you to an e-book channeled by Barbara Marciniak for the Pleiadians that discusses DNA. The reason for this is that my only knowledge of how DNA is important at this time came from a Pleiadian. Whether you believe in ET's or not is up to you. Whether you believe in channelers or not is up to you and whether you believe in this channeler or not is also up to you of course.

Some quotes from the book...

The original human was a magnificent being whose twelve strands of DNA were contributed by a variety of sentient civilizations. When the new owners came in, they worked in their laboratories and created versions of humans with a different DNA-the two-stranded, double-helix DNA. They took the original DNA of the human species and disassembled it. The original DNA pattern was left within the human cells, yet it was not functional; it was split apart, unplugged.

Within human cells are light-encoded filaments, fine gossamer threads of energy that carry information. When these gossamer threads are working together like a cable-the way fiber optics works-they form the helix of your DNA. When you were rearranged, you were left with the double helix. Anything that was unnecessary for survival and that could keep you informed was unplugged, leaving you with only a double helix that would lock you into controllable, operable frequencies.



Your DNA will evolve from two helixes to twelve helixes. These twelve helixes correspond to energy centers, or chakras, inside and outside of your body.

This process is an incredible evolutionary leap for one to be involved in, and it is going to take place on an accelerated path for the next twenty years. There are those who have already received a realignment of the twelve strands of DNA, the twelve helixes. These twelve spiral strands of DNA interact with one another in the body and outside of the body. The connection of the twelve strands means that the twelve energy or information centers can begin to function and send information back and forth to one another.

Traditionally, seven of these centers are located in the body, and five are located outside of the body. They are commonly known as your chakra centers and are aligned with the spinning of the twelve heavenly bodies that you know of at this time within your solar system-the twelve heavenly bodies that are vibrating, as you recognize them, in 3D.

When human DNA begins to rebundle as a twelve-stranded helix system and this information is acted upon, there will be incredible power. Individuals, simply by coming together and jointly intending what they want-jointly becoming a telepathic receptacle for energies from all over the cosmos-will change the face of the universe.

As your tenth, eleventh, and twelfth chakras begin to open themselves, many off-planet energies will appear in your lives. These energies will occur on this planet as more and more of you hold the higher frequencies. The tenth chakra connects with the solar system, the eleventh with the galaxy, and the twelfth with a place in the universe.



Your DNA is a filament; a scientist would describe it as a connective filament. Scientists, doing the best they can up to this point, have found certain codings within certain portions of the DNA. They have also found superfluous portions of the DNA. In other words, there are portions that they cannot translate or figure out, so they think these portions of the DNA are just there for the ride, and they call them "junk DNA." They are off track.

What scientists are calling "junk" houses the perceptions deep inside of your body that will allow you to become an entire perceiver, a fourth-dimensional being. This awakening DNA will allow you to change your eyesight, change your hearing, increase your life span, and so on. This dormant part of the DNA that has baffled the scientists is now coming to life.



And the link to the book itself...

http://www.universe-people.com/bringers.htm

I hope it is of some interest to you.


With best regards,

Dave

Greetings,

The NEW method of healing is pretty straightforward. It can be used for distance healing aswell as with a hands-on approach.

For hands-on get the person to sit down and you sit behind them. Place your hands on either side of his/her head (for remote healing simply imagine/visualise the patients head between your hands). Relax your body using whatever works best for you and enter a trance to whatever level you can achieve. Trance is not a requisite but it helps with energy work, even a light trance makes a big difference.

Get the energy moving in your body by stimulating your feet, legs, and do a few full body circuits. Then to begin the healing, move the energy as follows; On the inhale, draw energy up through your feet up to your heart chakra. On the exhale, pump it from your heart chakra down your arms and through your hands into the patient. Repeat the process for as long as is neccessary.

There's a little more to it than that but goku22 says Robert has written about it here already so theres no point in repeating. Thats the gist of it above. I have done reiki healings and attunements but I never experienced as powerfull a rush of energy as when doing the NEW healing. I am not aware which of the two makes for better healing as I've not studied them in comparison to each other but the NEW method feels a lot stronger, even for remote healing. Of course it doesn't hurt that your developing your energy body at the same time []

With best regards,

Dave

Greetings Arthelion,

Welcome to the forums and may I add that your English is better than some who have it as their native language.[]

You have gotten off to a great start with the pendulum and your positivity will bring you far. You are using the pendulum correctly; there is no fault there. I see by the questions and answers that you posted that your 'problem' as it were lies in your questioning of the pendulum. Whilst your attitude is great, the pendulum simply will not work if used in this manner, which has been seen time and again throughout the many years the pendulum has been in use. Looking at the answers you received you can see that the pendulum is trying to show you this.

quote: Was that your fault? Yes
Am I using the pendulum correctly? Yes
Will there be more good attempts after I have more practise? No  (big dissapointment)

The pendulum deliberately gave you 'wrong answers' to show you that it does not work in this manner. You were indeed using the pendulum correctly and the answers would still be the same with more practice as it is the questioning OF the pendulum rather than questioning WITH the pendulum that is the issue here.

Your search for your perfect pendulum will come to fruition soon if you follow your intuition and where you are guided to look. The pendulum can be made of most anything but I understand the desire to have one that feels special to you. In your search you might like to try the following...

Holding the pendulum in the hand you do not write with have a map open in front of you. Say to the pendulum that you wish to search for your perfect pendulum and say that you are going to point to different places on the map. Ask the pendulum if when you are pointing to the place that you should begin your search in, the pendulum would signal this with a YES movement. Point with the index finger of your writing hand to various streets on the map, moving slowing from place to place until the pendulum responds. From there you can further define your search if you wish. This pointing 'method' can be used for a multitude of tasks; this is just one example.


I have not looked into your question regarding the 27th of August as I wanted to post this as soon as possible to reply to you before you go on holidays. I could say that I'll look into it when you come back but the 27th will have come and gone by then.[]
Enjoy the vacation!

With best regards,

Dave

Greetings everyone!

May I first of all apologise for the tardiness of my reply. I am currently in the process of moving house which, while enjoyable, is taking up much of my time. Also, as I will be 'in limbo' for two to three weeks my online time will unfortunately be sporadic until I get settled again. Therefore I must apologise in advance if it takes me a while to reply to any posts.

The 'walkabout' I posted above was not complicated to do at all, at least not on my end. Karek did all the necessary and all I had to do was 'think' and 'feel' my way around. For me it felt like the most natural thing in the world. When Karek broke the connection MAYATNIK asked me how I felt about it and I had to say that it felt completely natural, almost routine.

Hi James,

Thank-you very much indeed for fixing the coding in that post. I was looking at it for so long that my eyes were crossing! I really appreciate it. []


Hi Novice,

You are not 'phrasing' the questions incorrectly at all. In fact, your Q&A session is absolutely fantastic! Your persistence with the questioning is superb and your approach to lateral and oblique questioning is commendable. That session can easily pose as a model for one to follow. Excellent!

Way back on page five MAYATNIK posted on the Karma issue. Perhaps the message may have been overlooked as words often mean more it would seem on first glance. I'll re-post the body of the original text here.

We were particularly impressed to see the initiative by NOVICE in starting his 'project' to investigate Karma, and to involve everyone in checking themselves concerning this. The participation of everybody in this will be very beneficial – both in terms of practice, and also the new perspectives that will (as NOVICE hints at) be revealed. I don't want to say too much about this for the same reason, that I want to avoid the possibility of 'suggestion' by giving anything away, so I had intended to remain quietly in the background and observe – only jumping in if there came a necessity to clarify some issue, or give guidance as to other 'angles' of suitable questioning that would be helpful to the <Karma project> and and give ideas for lateral and oblique investigations in general with the Pendulum.

However, I notice at the top of page 5 here, that SeekingAnswers has made reference to the Karma project, relating it to his own experience (that is, a 'personal' enquiry about the future) in his guides' training of him thus far:

SeekingAnswers writes:
<<"[this is the].....meaning of the lesson: i cannot be told what will happen.
i know that falls into the principal of being told what will happen tommorow, but i feel your qeustions about karma and other such big (Hard core) qeustions fall into the same catergory.">>

While SeekingAnswers is right in every respect, from the position of the 'status' assigned to him so far – Karma is a completely separate issue (for reasons that I don't want to go into here and now, in order to leave the 'field' open for free investigation; all will be revealed soon enough) and Karma does not relate to concrete 'events' as such.

It is apposite, in relation to the Pendulum or Channeling, to explain a little more about the word 'status' that I referred to earlier, since a few words about this will help clarify (and even make questioning easier) this whole issue of 'knowing' or "not having the 'status' to know" (as the guides put it).

I bring this point up here, because with some reflection the members may be able to formulate lines of questioning regarding Karma that would not otherwise seem obvious, and so be able to gain a better perspective by glimpsing a little of the 'big picture'.

Basically, people are not allowed to 'know' the future, because they are meant to walk into it, not use a 'map' to navigate round it ! There is a Higher Purpose, a Grand Plan – but, within the framework of that there is also Free Will. Notwithstanding, all will eventually be according to the Plan by the Weaver of The Tapestry of Life. Within that scheme of affairs, falls the individual lessons that have been set to be learned in each lifetime, along with 'karma' (a separate thing, but having links in what we know as 'time').

When a channeler (or Pendulum user) has been given sufficient 'status', then they are allowed to 'know' what has been pre-planned, or will occur by 'Fate' as a consequence of the weave; but they are NOT permitted to pass on this information. It is given to such a channeler solely for the purpose of knowing the overall picture concerning the individual or event – and this is because they are passing on other approved information not available otherwise but deemed by the guides necessary to impart at the time. Because the channeler's job is to avoid giving the 'answers' on a plate, but rather giving the maximum of beneficial guidance in the right direction, then Free Will is not interfered with. If people were to be given the 'answers' then human nature would design ways to skirt round any problems that would prevent getting to the 'destination''; at the very least, they would simply wait until the 'destination' came in sight, and ignoring all other options and the myriad avenues of free exploration that are presented for man to explore and experience. So, an integral and essential part of the true Channeler's training involves many tests along the way, in order to reach each 'status' point. At the end of full training, the channeler will have passed all tests given to them, which are rigorous (and, believe me, they get tougher with each stage!); the tests are necessary because of the enormous level of responsibility required in keeping the Secrets of Destiny; as an example, one of the earlier tests when passed confers 'status' to access the Akashic Records of a living individual's life if necessary for whatever purpose the guides may deem appropriate for the 'vehicle' (as the channeler is called) to know for the job in hand. Higher status confers deeper and deeper access into the 'computer' where all is organized --- and so on.

I hope these insights, that I am permitted to reveal at this time, will help clarify points which otherwise may be clouded.

There exist certain lessons that must be learned by the individual on his/her own. There can be guidance along the way but on the whole the individual must make the discovery themselves. You are most definitely 'on route' to your destination with your excellent questioning. Your perception is expanding as you continue to investigate and will continue to do so until you can see the full 'picture'. As you start to see things in a different light more and more is being revealed to you.

Karma has more to do with society than the individual; it is not as is depicted in books. An individual can make tremendous leaps when they choose to follow their own path and not be a part of the herd. The topic of Karma is an excellent one to investigate not only for the discovery factor but also for the alternate avenues of investigation that will need to be ventured down in order to get the 'big picture'. It shows exactly how to use the pendulum not only to discover the truth but also to increase ones awareness and perception.

I would recommend this as a topic to be investigated as a group effort; in particular it may be of benefit to people who may be having difficulty thinking of questions to ask the pendulum. If several people were to investigate Karma independently and post their results here, not only would it enable one to see angles of approach they may have overlooked, it would also make for a very interesting discussion indeed!

With very best regards,

Dave

[MSN conversation with MAYATNIK dated July 21st 2003]

Taking advantage of the current lull I sit to put my thoughts and experiences into words. There has been a lot of controversy in recent days and weeks with regard to the pendulum, the Pleiadians, MAYATNIK and to a certain degree myself also. A few days ago I decided to take a step back from the forefront and spend some time alone with myself. It was more of a necessity than a choice to be honest, I needed the time to reflect and take a journey inwards. There are some thoughts I wish to share with you all at this time.

Regardless of what your opinions may be on any of that which has transpired here since the pendulum thread originated, I wish to say that it is no concern of mine as to how many people use the pendulum or not. I intend to have the information accessible for all to read and answer any genuine questions to the best of my ability. I am not designing to infringe upon the Free Will of anyone. Similar to other informative posts and articles elsewhere on this and other sites, the information is presented for the individual to read if they wish and then to make a decision as to whether or not to take this information on board.

When the pendulum article was originally posted by MAYATNIK I was not quite convinced that this tool could have quite the effect his words implied. Sceptical but eager to prove myself wrong, I picked up my pendulum and dusted it off to investigate for myself the truth behind this man's words. Thus began the most enlightening period of my life to date in terms of discovery of self. There is a feeling I have carried with me my entire life. This feeling is the reason why I have always moved so quickly from one thing to another when I felt I was not fulfilling my purpose. I still do not fully understand this feeling or how it originated but I am getting very close; so close I can taste it. All the experiences of my past good and bad are merging together to form a bigger picture of my purpose, the reason I chose to incarnate here and at this time.

The last few days were very dark for me indeed. All the doubts of my logical mind fought long and hard against what I know to be true in the very depths of my being. Things I have been taught to believe as fact, the conditioning I see and that which I do not plagued me at every turn, battling against the growing realisation stirring in my very core. It was human logic and reasoning versus feeling, emotion and intuition. In the end though try as I might, there was no denying the truth. I can choose to bury my head in the sand and refuse to accept who I am and the road I have laid out for myself, or I can choose to see fear for what it is and have the courage to accept the part I am to play on this living stage. I have made my choice.

Since making my decision my entire perception has began to change. Events of my life that beforehand appeared chaotic are blending together in synchronicity. I see the reasoning behind all that I do and I understand how the choices I have made in the past have led me to where I am now. I look at the experiences of my past and present with detachment, seeing how I have created them and why. There is a powerful momentum building and for the first time I am fully aware of the direction in which I am headed.

It has been said in before in arguments both for and against the pendulum that the pendulum is just a tool. It is a tool yes, but I have yet to see another such tool that can have such a profound effect on a person's spiritual evolution in such a short space of time. I am not referring solely to myself; in these terms I feel I am a slow learner. I have been talking to people on msn that have moved forward at such a rate that I felt I had to step away so as not to hold them back, in particular with telepathy. My own personal struggle with the 'knowledge' I have from this lifetime held me back. Even now I have yet to take full advantage of telepathy. When I finish writing this I will get back to work on communicating fully and naturally with Karek. There is a seemingly infinite amount I wish to learn but as I have made the journey into myself by myself, this is how I choose to write this to you. Every word I am saying is my own and is straight from the heart...or the hip, depending on your point of view. []

I contacted MAYATNIK originally because I felt the need to when, after the disagreements with 13, I thought that he would not be posting again on this site. I have always acted as mediator as this is one of my strongest personality traits. What I saw was nothing more than conflicting opinions and I wanted to suggest that it was not necessary to cease posting because of this. After a brief conversation on msn with MAYATNIK I saw that my concern was unnecessary and I changed the topic to the pendulum which I was interested in learning more about. I asked a few questions pertaining to what I experienced when I had used the pendulum before. I was using the pendulum as we were chatting to verify what I was being told when a thought occurred to me. I asked the pendulum if I were to give it a message could the message be passed on to MAYATNIK by Karek. I got a strong YES response and was thinking about what to say when a sentence entered my head, as clear as day and in a soft female tone.

"Tell Edward I said hello"     (Edward being MAYATNIK's first name)

Although the message was as clear as they come I was still sceptical and used the pendulum to find out that Karek had said this to me telepathically. So, tentatively I asked MAYATNIK if Karek had indeed asked me to tell him she said hello. She had, and this was my first experience with telepathy.

When I was asked to temporarily take over the running of the threads I was only too happy to accept. I was (and am still) very fond of the Astralpulse forums and saw an opportunity for me to be of benefit to others whilst learning a great deal myself. Not once did I imagine that the topics would arouse such heated discourse. Nevertheless what's done is done and at least now one can not say with honesty that there has not been equal debate done for both sides of the coin. Responding to the replies on the pendulum threads has been a pleasure, for the most part.[]

I have from the very outset taken a positive approach to working with the pendulum and before having conversed with MAYATNIK was looking to myself to see why things were not moving as I wished or expected them to. I am by nature an extremely positive person and I have always said to look to one's self first before attributing blame to others. Perhaps this is just me but that approach is, in my opinion, what enabled my accelerated learning curve to begin. It has been the same way with people I have been talking with on MSN messenger. If they are positive they generally have no problems at all whereas the opposite is true with a negative person. Such is the way of life. The electromagnetic frequency emitted by a person is indicative of what they can expect to receive back, by way of the law of attraction.

Once I discovered that I was communicating with Karek I felt a sense of familiarity with her. I enjoy her sense of humour immensely and while I needed my time to myself, I am truly looking forward to 'talking' with her again for more than a minute or two a day which is what I have been doing the past few days, some days not at all. She has already shown me much and certain events of my life that never quite fitted in anywhere beforehand make perfect sense to me now. One of the ways in which I have been learning to take advantage of is the 'ability' I have been shown that is akin to out-of-body exploration and remote viewing. I had said that I would post about this 'ability' here so what follows is a transcript of my MSN chat with MAYATNIK in which Karek first showed me how to do this. My own notes are in green.

MSN conversation with MAYATNIK dated July 21st 2003

MAYATNIK says:
Ok...... so you will have to 'ask' to be taken to a place......... Now I want you to ask (with your eyes open) "Take me to a 'cosmetic' animal-experimentation laboratory please"... then close your eyes, and you'll 'go' there.  Wander around and examine as before.
Parmenion says:
Building looks rectangular with a domed roof. Prefabricated metal with a big green door
Walking inside I see what looks at first to be gold color, then white all around
Walk down the corridor ahead of me then switch to overhead view.
Corridors criss-cross to make squares in between ~ the rooms
[MAYATNIK says:
You are absolutely spot on there.... that's the view I have too.
Parmenion says:
Bright, white, extremely clean ~ sparkling
MAYATNIK says:
Different 'feel' to the defence place.

This was my second of these such 'visits'. The first was to a defense facility which I kept short as I got the distinct impression I was not 'welcome' there.

Parmenion says:
Absoluely, that other place had me on edge altogether
MAYATNIK says:
It was the 'vibration'..... you are positive and there was strong 'negativity' in what was being done there...... the men were uneasy by your presence but did not know why.
Parmenion says:
Back to this place. i ask to be taken back to the center of the building. To my left I hear screeching. A chimp or ape of somesort.
I turn towards the door of the room where the noise is coming from. I open the door but stop dead in my tracks before its fully opened . The screeching gets louder and I can feel the pain of this animal
Its a chimp
I can feel its pain
MAYATNIK says:
Ask what the purpose of the animal is there.
Parmenion says:
'They' are doing something to its teeth or gums
The chimp is left alone now and I am talking with a scientist. I cannot make out all he is saying but " we are testing its reaction to..." He is showing me something on the computer
Im 'pushed' out of the room
MAYATNIK says:
He was 'daydreaming' then he realised.
Parmenion says:
He told me I wasnt welcome there either
MAYATNIK says:
You obviously upset him
Parmenion says:
Yes, his attitude became quite aggressive
MAYATNIK says:
Find the caretaker......find what happens to the rubbish.

Prior to this I had seen the janitor (and his dog) on the corridors but now sought him out specifically.

Parmenion says:
Jesus wept!
Im overwhelmed with feelings of sorrow and disgust
Theres a room towards the back thats an incinerator
some of the 'rubbish' eugh! is burned, others is fed to the live animals
The janitor has a dog ~ a rotweiler or pitbull of somesort
The dog is going nuts to get at me but cant
MAYATNIK says:
Animals can sense..... you can also quieten the animal with thoughts of love.
throw out a 'pink' cloud with love
Parmenion says:
the dogs not the problem anymore . the janitor has turned to me with an 'unhuman' face while not really turning at all. Part of him knows Im there and is trying to scare me away
MAYATNIK says:
He just feels uneasy, that's all
Parmenion says:
Seems to have calmed now, the dogs a pussycat
MAYATNIK says:
Go back to the main laboratory.........
and find a scientist......... and think that you wish to be where he is at home normally........ to see him there in his house.
Parmenion says:
Hes got a pretty sparse place. He is single or gay. there is another man that walks down the stairs. There is a cat in the home
He sits at the kitchen table eating breakfast and reading the newspaper. From the kitchen table you can see into the hallway and the front door
Hes young with dark black hair and glasses
Theres a toilet (wc) under the stairs
Perhaps I should give him some privacy
MAYATNIK says:
You won't be allowed to intrude......this is for your learning, so you're being permitted to see things.
Parmenion says:
finished in the toilet (where he continued to read the paper) he takes something out of the fridge and feeds the cat
The cat is striped grey and black and wears a collar, he is quite fond of it
MAYATNIK says:
He seems to like the cat.
Parmenion says:
yes he does
he strokes its back after putting down the food
MAYATNIK says:
I saw him bend over, reach out his hand.
Parmenion says:
He goes back to the table now and continues to read his paper
MAYATNIK says:
Think youself into the other man.
Parmenion says:
he is meditating in his room
There is incense burning
He sits cross legged (half lotus?) on the bed
He can hear the noises made by the scientist downstairs and tries to ignore them
The mail sits beside him on the bed, That is why he went down stairs
He is wearing very little or no clothing
Well built man
MAYATNIK says:
What was he wearing when he went downstairs?
Parmenion says:
boxer shorts
MAYATNIK says:
So it appears they are very different to each other
Parmenion says:
very yes
He opens a letter. there is a photo inside of a young boy. his son
He feels sad and happy at the same time
There is also a childs drawing included
MAYATNIK says:
Where does he go for his 'leisure'

I found it very natural and easy to change perspectives and view the same person at different time, viewing 'outside of time' as it were.

Parmenion says:
Clay pigeon shooting
walks in the woods
he likes to be alone
quiet man
MAYATNIK says:
This is obviously a countryfied area, with that type of pastime.  Does he work?
Parmenion says:
No, one of the letters he recieved was an acceptance from a job he applied to. "dear sir, we are pleased to inform you...."
I am recalling it from a few minutes ago when i was in his room with him
MAYATNIK says:
You have full control of the situation....since you can 'jump' to earlier parts clearly.
Parmenion says:
I even went to the cats perspective for a few seconds. Never realised how tasty cat food is!
MAYATNIK says:
How did you 'feel' as the cat living there.
Parmenion says:
Very much at ease.
Relaxed and comfortable, well looked after
MAYATNIK says:
A quiet house........ with little disturbance.
Parmenion says:
Yes, very
Thats why the noise from the scientists breakfast bowl could be heard so clearly by the meditating man upstairs
MAYATNIK says:
So, there is no traffic...... I sense a garden path with some wild flowers, a not-neat garden that is countrified.... can you walk around near the house and describe it.

In investigating the house I alternated from walking speed at ground level to flying over the house, to instant change of perspective. It all felt 100% naturall ,like I have always known how to do this

Parmenion says:
a long dirt driveway with gates at the entrance. Old gates that dont hang too well. The house is on the very outskirts of subburbia. A few houses on the estate, all detatched
Fields to the back, trees to the front
MAYATNIK says:
They don't care about it not being 'twee' or Laura Ashley style.......... so they are country people, used to nature.
I see a dark hedge overhanging.... shadowing at one side... a feeling of seclusion, tucked away-ness
Parmenion says:
i sensed that as thick dark trees, Ill investigate
MAYATNIK says:
I sense 'untidiness' that is natural overgrown foliage.
They were quite high
Parmenion says:
there is a rusty wheel barrow at the side of the house, the sun is shing bright to the rear.
The rear garden is overgrown also with some kind of water feature ,a pond? also unkept
There are trees in the back garden
MAYATNIK says:
That would be what I am seeing..... I see a dark green foliage overhanging (there is a dip underneath back into the shadows, and I sense it cool underneath there).
Parmenion says:
Yes, the boundary walls are all overgrown with some kind of hedging
The soil is brown here with little growth, prob due to the lack of sunshine
The meditating man owns a motorcycle
MAYATNIK says:
Probably needs it round there.  Has the 'scientist' got transport?
Parmenion says:
Vine-type leafs grow on the front of the house..........Yes, he has an oldish car
A good car though, looks to be grey
I think its a jaguar from some years back
Clean on the inside except for a little muck on the floormat
MAYATNIK says:
I see rounded edges.... quite a high car...... I saw it as a bluey-grey colour
Parmenion says:
wheels are muddy
He has a cage or two in the boot
I think he also keeps a gun in the car
Black
MAYATNIK says:
Glove compartment
Parmenion says:
there or under the passenger seat
MAYATNIK says:
Is it a stun-gun or a dart-gun?
Parmenion says:
dart gun
MAYATNIK says:
Are there darts in a tin?  Is there a bottle there?
Parmenion says:
Yes, in the glove box
MAYATNIK says:
That's lethal
Parmenion says:
darts are in a square tin
MAYATNIK says:
Is there a bottle of some kind there?
Parmenion says:
yes, same size as a babies bottle

I pictured how this man uses the liquid in the bottle to try sense what it is

Parmenion says:
Its not milk for sure! He dips the dart(s) into the liquid but also has a syringe kept with the darts
MAYATNIK says:
That may be 'antidote' in case he pricks himself.
Parmenion says:
He wears black leather gloves when handling the gun and darts
Parmenion says:
His intent is not good. He is saddened by what is on his mind
Parmenion says:
he's also wearing a grey trenchcoat

I found that I could easily sense emotions, almost as if I was actually 'being' this person for a time

MAYATNIK says:
Is the gun 'routine', or because he has to have it.
Parmenion says:
I feel he always has it but never has had to use it in this way before
MAYATNIK says:
Is it connected with his job?
Parmenion says:
No, he has murder (or elimination) in mind
Also the darts are not *dipped* in the liquid ,there is a syringe type suction in the darts
Its something he feels he has to do and that saddens him
MAYATNIK says:
That's professional gear!
Put your hand over the darts........and 'trace' them back to where they came from.

As I did this I was immediately 'transported' to a store. This scientist was there as was the shopkeeper. They were quite familiar with each other.

Parmenion says:
a gun store, hunting perhaps
Not on display, he knew what he was looking for
Special order
MAYATNIK says:
You can place your hand over any item and get a flash 'snapshot' with feeling...... if you want to investigate any particular 'picture' then just go into it.
Parmenion says:
he's driving now and the gun is on the passenger seat
I see him picture shooting a fat man in the neck on the steps of his house
He parks outside the house
Then drives on
Not today it seems
He is upset that he's not done what he set out to do
MAYATNIK says:
Do you see someone else involved that he reports back to?
Parmenion says:
a woman, young pretty, long legs
MAYATNIK says:
He meets her somewhere?
Parmenion says:
in a park
MAYATNIK says:
She sits down where he is waiting?
Parmenion says:
No, they walk towards each other, then side by side
She is upset and angry but she holds on to his arm
They sit down together
Dialogue feels something like "I just cant do it" ~~~" You have to, you know you have to"
She is thinking "he's useless, why cant he just do the job"
MAYATNIK says:
Is there a relationship issue here?
Parmenion says:
yes somewhere, definitely

I continued to observe these two individuals for a time but I grew weary and started to draw blanks so I was happy to have Karek break the connection. I had had enough for one night.

This is how I learned how to 'go walkabout' as I like to call it. I can ask Karek to take me to particular places and times any time I wish. I posted the above because I had said I would but I feel that the greatest benefit I have received in the last few weeks has not been this or telepathy, nor any one 'ability' alone but what I am discovering about myself and the true nature of existence. I hope that this post will go some way towards shedding light on my position at this time. Nobody 'chose' me for anything. I set my own path in life and I'm beginning to remember what that is.

With best regards,

Dave


P.S: I do apologise for all the bold at the end. Try as I might, I can not seem to rectify it.

There ya go - fixed! []
James.

Dear Goingslow,

It would seem that no matter what I write your eyes will continue to glaze over the words I use to say that I do not and never have told anyone that what is required here is 'blind faith'. I have seen the product of 'blind faith' first hand and you are missing my point entirely. What is required is that you do not take the answers as being correct, even if you feel sure that they are. The pendulum gives wrong answers as a means for you to learn. It is a teaching tool and teaches by encouraging deep investigation and not just handing you the answers on a plate. As I am sure you are aware, inner-development is paramount to spiritual progress. Inner-development cannot be achieved through a series of fast answers and quick fix solutions. I know we live in a society where everything has to be done yesterday but the pendulum is not a means to avoid doing the necessary work on yourself. While it has the potential to enable excellent spiritual development in a relatively short space of time, it is by no means easy work.

You assume that the pendulum 'gets offended' because it gives you wrong answers. To clarify again, these 'wrong' answers are given to teach. I should say that I have never before seen so many assumptions made and conclusions jumped to as I have done in the last couple of weeks. You suggest that "these beings are so hurt they're going to teach me a lesson because I dare to be skeptical". What is it about the way that I write that you find so hard to understand? Are there little 'trigger' words in my paragraphs that set your conditioning to red alert? I mean no offense here, we have all been subject to conditioning to varying degrees throughout our life. This is why inner-work is so important before any real progress can be made.

The guides have indeed got our best interests at heart. Just because you may not understand the reasoning for what they do does not mean they are trying to 'trick' you or lead you astray. Does the child understand why his responsible parent won't let him play on the construction site?Despite what your ego may tell you, you do not always know what is best for you.

Since when is it wrong for people to voice their support for another. Your attitude towards this is typical of a person with as much cynicism and sarcasm that you possess. Again, I mean no offense by this, I am sure you know yourself pretty well by now. Three people on a thread that is nineteen pages long is by no means a multitude.
With respect, I point out the fact that Frank has a far greater 'support' on these forums. I have voiced my appreciation of his posts myself in the past.

Your 'concern' for my welfare is misplaced in these last paragraphs of yours;

quote: Doesnt it feel good to be "chosen" though Parmenion? Especially for the task of answering what Mayatnik is too busy to answer now. Course he is working on your spiritual enlightenment so its a win win situation.

Will you be following when its time to spread the truth to another messageboard? seems you have no choice since by then he will have done much work on your spiritual enlightenment plus Im sure karek will appreciate it.

Hope you still come back here though, although Im afraid by then you'll be too advanced.

The lure in these things is always the same.. "you were chosen".

You assume too much and know too little. With all sincerity I say that I hope you find your way, whatever that may be.

With best regards,

Dave

Dear Goingslow,

Inner-development is not easy. There is a tremendous amount of work involved and let no-one tell you otherwise.

On the other hand, telepathy and the other 'ability' I mentioned above are simple. In fact, they are child's play. Perhaps it is time for me to explain what I have been doing over the last couple of weeks. I'll post it on the <AND THE TRUTH SHALL BE KNOWN-You'll see!> thread.

With best regards,

Dave

Greetings,

There is no 'ideal' pendulum. The first one I had was a battered gold ring on the end of a piece of builders line. All that matters is that you are comfortable with it. You could test the weight by adding a button or similar to make it heavier and see how it works for you. At the end of the day what's important is that it feels right to you.

quote: is it possbile for everyone to talk with a Pledeian, or guide through the pendulum?

I am glad you brought this up Malvina as there seems to be a growing misconception of the relation of guides to the pendulum. The pendulum is a teaching tool. It is not a ticket to instant communication with a guide, nor does using the pendulum mean that you will be assigned a guide.

Some are making the assumption that in using the pendulum they will automatically have a guide assigned to them. This is most definitely not the case. There is a great deal of work to be done on the self before any progress can be made and the pendulum is designed for this purpose. It is designed to help you break your conditioning and assist in inner-development. I cannot stress that point enough. I am aware that I have said that the pendulum will lead to telepathy, and this is true, but not before much work has been done on the self. Everyone is different and as such their progress will reflect this. The standard chain of events is that you will start off with a 'monitor' guide, then often teacher guide(s) and then only if you are ready will you likely be assigned a guide.

The best way to look at it is like this; When using the pendulum take it that you are working with your 'Higher Self' and do not assume anything else. Just treat the pendulum with respect and positivity and work from there. There is much work involved before being assigned a guide and many tests along the way. The 'wrong answers' of the pendulum are just the starting point.

For those who are fortunate to have a guide already, as does James, you should always listen to your guide as they know what is best for you at any given time. The guides are well intentioned in all that they do and their advice is for the individual they are guide to alone. This may mean telling them that the pendulum is not for them if their guide has other plans for them. This is not to say that the pendulum is wrong or not as good, rather that the advise is for the individual and does not apply to others. The situation with that person may well change in which case their guide will let them know from time to time.

When all has been said and done the fact remains that the pendulum is a teaching tool. The title of this topic seems to have been largely misunderstood. The truth is not handed to you on a plate. You must find it for yourself.

With best regards,

Dave

Dear No_Leaf_Clover,

Regarding the <NEW? Plane Approaching?> thread and in particular the post from myself to which you refer;

Firstly, and for the record, I edited the post in question for spelling. I was most definitely not hinting that I did not have the time to answer your question. In fact I was quite eager to find out the facts of the matter for myself. As I was and am quite busy your question was the perfect opportunity for me to do a little investigating on the subject. I can appreciate why you say you removed your post now though.

The tone you picked up on in my post on the <NEW? Planet Approaching?> thread was not one of irritation but of disappointment. I would have been happy to do a much more extensive post on the subject of Nibiru and the Pole Shift at that time but due to the deletion of your post it was not appropriate. I am curious as to why certain members assume that because I am in communication with Karek that I am prone to getting 'touchy and defensive'. I speak and write in clear English and have no quarrel with anyone here on a personal level.

With your consent I propose that we put this down to a mutual misunderstanding and chalk it up to experience. After all, we are both human.....well, last time I looked

edit...Even got the name wrong!


Dear Justine,

These special genes that are possessed by many people differ from the norm in a number of ways. They are coded to receive information that is being 'beamed' down to the planet on a constant basis. All human genes were originally coded to receive such information as Earth was designed to be a living library and humans the 'key-holders' to the information. Human DNA was taken apart and mankind was left with a double helix DNA structure whereas before they had twelve strands of DNA. The two strands of DNA that were left intact were sufficient to keep the body and mind functioning but removed all of the information that had been originally made available to humanity.

The rest of the DNA was not removed from the genes altogether. It was just taken apart. All of the DNA that was LIGHT-encoded ( LIGHT meaning information) was rendered unless and the information unavailable to humans. In many people now these tiny filaments of LIGHT are starting to rebuild and these people are beginning to awaken to the true reality around them.

You will find a lot of information about this and much more in the books recommended on the first page of this thread.


With best regards,

Dave

Dear Goingslow,

You are testing the pendulum and as a result you are receiving wrong answers. You will continue to receive wrong answers as long as you continue to test the pendulum rather than test WITH the pendulum. This is not breaking news, it has been said countless times before and not only on this site. I invite you to do some research on the pendulum and how it has been used by dowsers for centuries. It is a well documented fact that the pendulum has never worked for anyone who does not respect it. Lack of respect in this case refers to testing the pendulum rather than testing WITH the pendulum. There is a big difference.

Consider the following analogy. Your first day at university you approach the lecturer after the class. If you seek to learn from the lecturer and show respect for his qualifications then it is safe so think that the lecturer will answer your questions with the intention of teaching you what it is you want to learn. It is his job to teach after all. On the other hand, if you wish nothing more than to question the intelligence of the lecturer, do you imagine he will be concerned with whether or not you learn anything?

Let us take the scenario of child questioning adult as a further example. We are but children (infants actually) in terms of galactic evolution. Children are curious by nature and naturally ask many, many questions as this is how they learn. This is how adults learn too, if only they would realise it. A caring adult will answer with honesty the questions of a curious child. The child is just trying to learn. The child does not try to test the adult to see what they know. Well, actually some do but they are not humored for long.

"What does 2+2 equal?"

"Five"

"No, it doesn't"

"Then why did you ask?"

The difference between children and adults here is that the child will soon realise that he/she will learn nothing without changing their approach. There is much we can learn from children.

quote: Anyway I have time in the beginning of work so every now and then i'll ask questions. My pendulum has been consistently wrong.. and very wrong. For example there was about a 50/50 chance my boss would come into work today. I asked the pendulum if it was able to foresee the future it answered yes. I asked if my boss was coming in today it answered no. Then an hour later he is in the office. This has happened around 5 times already. Ive asked it many other questions when it was outright wrong.

If you wish to look at this from a non-biased stance you will see quite clearly that to be consistently wrong when there is a 50/50 chance of  being right shows intelligence. It looks very similar to the child-adult scenario above does it not?


In your response to SeekingAnswers you wrote;

quote: I was a little taken aback by the blind faith a lot of people seem to be showing. I mean dont you have your own guide?

Do not presume that because a person writes as if they have an understanding of things that you do not that they are victim to blind faith. Sam does have a guide yes...MASHWAY... but what has that got to do with what you are trying to say?


You also wrote;

quote: How many people has Karek now chosen for something?

ONE. Karek selected me for the work I am doing now. I accepted the job.

quote: I even saw one say that mayatnik's guide now told him to do certain tasks etc.

I assume you are referring to me as there is no one else. I have been told to do nothing. I do what I do because it is what I choose to do. You insult my intelligence.

quote: I got an uneasy feeling too, and I have a weird feeling about the army karek is recruiting through mayatnik (no offense but thats my stance on it).

Army of one? Interesting that.


You go on to say;

quote: As easy and nice as it seems to get all your answers from a simple tool such as this there is a great deal of discipline or at least time needs to be taken out where a person works on themselves.

I couldn't agree with you more! Above all else the pendulum is a tool for inner-development which requires great time and effort. The tool may be simple to use but it does not make the work of inner-development an overnight process.

quote: I dont get this blind faith or this belief shortcuts work. I havent found a place yet for the pendulum in the "path" im trying to take, but Id love to believe instead of working on learning through dreams and self discipline i can pull this out and have my higher self just tell me all the answers. Unfortunately, I've gotten to the point where Im not able to fool myself that easily.

Who ever said you need to have blind faith or recommended short-cuts? You are quite right that this is not the way to go. Everyone must learn for themselves. Thank you for re-enforcing that point. Perhaps now it will be clear.


With best regards,

Dave

Greetings Malvina,

There's no need for concern here, you're problem is not uncommon. All you need to do is loosen up a little and relax. Be confident and enjoy yourself. Life should be fun and the pendulum is no exception.

When using the pendulum for the first time, instead  of saying "Show me a YES" it should be "Can you GIVE me a yes please?". You need to have a YES/NO movement assigned to the pendulum before you can be shown it. In any case "Show" is generally reserved for commands like "Show me North please" or "Point to North please".

The movements of your pendulum are too small to be sure of anything at present. What I suggest to do is to start with the YES movement. Remember to let loose and relax. Say to the pendulum "Give me a YES please". When you get a YES movement keep asking with "Can you give me a bigger YES please?" and see how big you can get the swing to go. When your happy with this move on to the NO and just follow the same procedure.

You say that you are using a chain as your pendulum. Is there something on the end of the chain? If not then it's not really a pendulum at all. Other than that a little practice and confidence in what you are doing is all that it will take for you to see that you have no problems using the pendulum at all.

With best regards,

Dave

Greetings Tippa et al,


I wish to thank you Tippa for putting so much effort into creating this FAQ for the pendulum. It has been apparent for some time now that there is a need for a summary of all that has been posted so far. There is quite a lot of information in both of the threads related to the pendulum, 24 pages in total as I write this. I recall reading a post by TravelinBob I think, elsewhere on the forums, saying that the original post by MAYATNIK covers most everything but "don't read the rest or you'll go mad". It is true that there has been much confusion on the threads and so, it was decided that a summary should be created.

MAYATNIK's guide Karek  selected me for the job of maintaining the day to day running of the threads so that MAYATNIK would be free to accomplish other work, not least of which the summary of the pendulum thread. I gladly accepted the challenge. However, it became clear that there was an incredible amount of work to do in this task that on the surface appeared to be quite straightforward. With everything that is involved in the day to day running of the threads, I have often found myself working right through the night with Karek and MAYATNIK to get things done in the best possible way. MAYATNIK has been involved throughout with not only my teaching of the skills needed for the task of admin, but also in my advanced training along with Karek which includes telepathy and what can be likened to 'remote viewing' or 'out-of-body exploration' but is much more than that. The priority has been my training so that the threads could be properly managed and as such, MAYATNIK has not yet had time to work on the summary.

As Tippa has very kindly gone to the effort to create this FAQ I would like that we can use it as a frame of sorts for the summary. If there are questions that anyone would like to see addressed that are not listed above than please let me know and they can be incorporated into the summary. The summary will comprise of several sections with FAQ being a section all of it's own. MAYATNIK intends to further trim the questions and answers to not more than 10 lines per set. In other words less than 200 lines for 20 questions.
There will also be a section for the Q&A sessions that have been posted for members to refer to. This may be placed in the Astral Pulse library where the initial article already is.

The summary will take some time to complete of course, but  will be of great benefit in making the important information readily accessible to everyone. We can continue to use the threads for further discussions and Q&A sessions but no longer will it be necessary to go searching back through the 330+ posts already there to find what you are looking for.

With best regards,

Dave